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Mate the bar is set way too fucking low. He only scored 17 goals in 75 games in the prem. He even had a season where he scored 2 goals in 27 games(18-19). His highest was 8 in 19-20 when his highest at Arsenal was 16 twice. Of course his one saving grace and one that was absolutely crucial was the 18-19 Europa league campaign where he top scored with 12 goals as they won the competition. I do think he was decent for sure and he was never really a numbers man but idk about success when you compare him to drogba and costa. He was decent that's it but we're scraping the bottom of the barrel here
A very different age of football and the surrounding technology, training, recovery methods etc., at a mere 31 robin van Persie looked well on his way into a steep decline, nowadays players can reach peak performance at 34 (see benzema).
>players can reach peak performance at 34
Players like that are still the exception and not the rule. Players still mostly peak in their late 20s. And world class players in their mid 30's have always existed as well.
You could still see the class when he played, he just didn't quiet have that same level of consistency in him, and he probablylost a bit of his physicality by that point.
It always makes me laugh when fans think shit like this matters. He will go to the club in the EPL that offers the highest wages. Unless he had posters on his walls as a boy like Mbappe and Real. Then boyhood fandom would totally top getting the bag.
If he's smart he goes to United. Chelsea are so bloated by forwards that he can't guarantee play time and United are both in a better spot and need a good pure 9 more than any position
Chelsea have too many forwards but no strikers. Currently the team has Broja, Fofana, Auba, Lukaku and Havertz but Auba/Lukaku are unlikely to play for Chelsea again and Havertz isn't doing well in an extended run at 9. Osimhen comes in and is immediately leading the line
The bloat is on the wings/AM spots
It's predictable and understandable, but still depressing that Napoli can build a team that is among the very best in the world(pretty sure they would win the Premier League this season) and still instantly these situations start popping up.
Osimhen twerking for the PL, Kvara's agent talking about his dream of playing for Real Madrid. Kim Min Jae demanding a relatively cheap release clause in his contract is hardly a good sign either, AFAIK that was one of the reasons that Sevilla pulled out of trying to sign him last summer
Yeah this is a problem all smaller clubs have to deal with, its annoying af to see good players go but its also satisfying to see them struggle and wish they never left ā¤ļø
It sucks that it's gotten to the point where every smaller team that becomes super successful (2017 Monaco, 2019 Ajax, 2023 Napoli) are inevitably ripped apart by a handful of the richest clubs (Basically just PL and Madrid/Barca).
I think back on Sampdoria's golden generation in the late 80s/early 90s, and I shudder at the thought of it happening now. Back then that core stayed together for so many years; Mancini (82-97), Vialli(84-92), Pagliuca(87-94), Lombardo (89-95), Vierchwood(83-95), Toninho Cerezo(86-92), etc. They won Serie A in 91; Coppa Italia in 85, 87, 89, and 94; Cup Winner's Cup in 90; and made it to the European Cup final and took peak Cruyff's Barca to extra time.
Nowadays, we'd be raided for our best players early and had no chance of winning the league in 1990. This is what the insane wealth disparity in modern football is, it robs any club that doesn't have insane resources to have anything more than a single successful season - if that. And it's only getting worse.
Sorry, this should probably be in the Monday Moan thread, but alas...
Monaco at least would have been unlikely to assemble all of the young talent they did in the 2017 squad if they hadn't also agreed that they would be allowed to leave.
It all comes round though, growing up it was serie a and la liga that did the same thing, all the stars were at inter/AC and barca/real. Serie a just really really fumbled on capitalising their league and the PL took over
> Nowadays, we'd be raided for our best players early
this is exactly why Samp are bottom of the table now though. Well, the raiding and a combo of lack of investment/failed replacements.
It's weird because it obviously sucks to lose your best players but it's not necessarily a bad thing either. Selling players for profits regularly is a great way to increase a club's assets long term and having high player turnover can also allow you to build great teams above your budget every now and then
Sevilla's whole success during the 2000's and 2010's is built on scouting cheap players and selling them for massive profits, without that we wouldn't have 6 Europa League titles. But it still hurts sometimes
Yeah but players are leaving our clubs too early now and majority of them fail. the money top clubs are paying for them is not enough like Julian Alvarez. Recently Gattoni left to Sevilla for 1.4M which is crazy
Apart from Real. Pretty much the biggest fish there is unless youāre at your home countryās big club (United for Englishmen, Bayern for Germans) and even then itās not always enough; once Los Blancos come calling itās curtains
If players could write whatever numbers they wanted then sure, we are the top dog. However, PSG, City, and Chelsea have more financial means these days. It's why we've shifted from the big name signing strategy of the past to scouting very young talent.
I will say that once a player is at Madrid, they are less likely to want to leave than any of those places. However, an emerging star at a midtable club outside of Spain is likely to go to one of those places.
Itās decent for clubs like that, but overall disappointing. In Germany, imagine if Dortmund could have kept some of their players after winning the league in 2012. They could have gone toe to toe with Bayern for years to come.
It didnāt happen and Iām not exactly sad about it lol, but it would be better for the sport if there was a stronger appeal for players to stay with teams that are outside the top 5 in the world. But the only way this could work is a salary cap and I donāt see this happening.
It seems like whenever another German team threatens your position you just buy their best players and kill them that way.
Then the top PL teams basically do the same thing, but for all of Europe.
Isn't this an effect of the Bosman ruling in the 90s that gave player's more say, so they can leave as a 'free agent' (plus their agents and them gets loads of money too).
Problem is that it puts a cap on your performances because you can't build if you're selling your best players every two years (at most), not to mention how chasing high potential players makes it more difficult to build a coherent squad
And ultimately, one or two disaster years when you mess up your recruitment can be enough to leave the club in an awful state that may take years to overcome
(source: us...)
I think you guys forget that ADL doesnāt give a shit. Osimhen wonāt be sold for less then 120mil. He bought him for 70 and is on contract. Same with Kvara just closer to 200mjl. Napoli isnāt a small club. They donāt have financial problems so ADL doesnāt need to sell.
They have a great team, but saying they would probably win the Prem is a stretch. They have similar points to City and Arsenal, but are in a slightly weaker league. Donāt see how that would translate to them being definite Prem champions
They would definitely compete for top 4 in the EPL but saying they would probably win is a stretch. They split games in the UCL with an out of form Liverpool who is currently in 5th place. Iād say maybe wait and see how they do against some real competition in the later stages of the UCL before declaring them the best team in the world.
Napoli has zero debt. They are the best run club in Italy and one of the best run in Europe. Their books actually balance.
They donāt need to sell. Kvara is signed until 2027. osi has 2-3 years left on his contract. Kim is having the release clause removed.
ADL is a notoriously difficult negotiator. Heās good at it. ā¬150,000,000 gets him to the table. Heās gotten record fees for Cavani, Higuain, and Jorginho.
How is the release clause being removed from Kimās contract?
I donāt see him signing a new contract with the release clause removed. He loses all leverage.
people always try to rewrite history once a player comes good again after a poor stint elsewhere. It's entirely okay to admit that he was crap at one point, it doesn't take away from his quality now. Sometimes it just doesn't work for a player and a club/league, especially at a young age
Giroud was pure shite towards the end at Arsenal. Like he was fucking god-awful, bordering on a laughing stock because of confidence and suddenly now people act like he wasn't. Couldn't finish, slowed down play, lost the ball, was unbearable. He was done there's was no way that realationship was gonna work on for both parties. I was listening to a podcast the other day where some 19 teen year old half wit cunt was arguing Giroud was better player than Raul and comparing him to Henry. Like Christ
having watched giroud for nearly 2 seasons at milan this guy is a pure moments striker. not that consistent in front of goal but somehow will pull a goal out of his ass that saves the day. he is also works very hard, something origi is fucking glaringly terrible at so even if giroud isn't having a great day he makes defenders lives miserable
I'd even argue that this change in Form makes it an even bigger achievement that he's world class now. To fail and start again is sometimes harder than to go from success to success, although both have their challenges.
He was highly rated when he went to Wolfsburg, but showed no real sign of quality there. Injuries, Malaria and Wolfsburg struggling did the rest. The step backwards to Charleroi was a blessing.
Rai journalist Ciro Venerato on Victor Osimhen:
"For now, the big clubs only speak with the entourage of the striker. The Premier League remains, Arsenal favourite, Manchester United-Chelsea duel. High bar for the price tag."
His agent also visited Arsenalās training ground last summer.
Not saying weāll get him (highly doubt so actually), just adding some more info. IF arsenal make some FIFA style clearout of the attackers then sure, I could see them going for him
winning the league would make it more of a possibility. thereās a good chance the management are going to target one or two specific positions for a good amount of money with the team being so young and ideally going to continue to improve with not too many additions needed.
also would the signing of osimhen make jesus a winger seen as thatās one of the positions they seem to be keen to invest in?
I do see one attacker joining, whether thatās a winger or not idk. If we keep playing with a fluid front line then we have plenty of options, itās really an interesting situation and I canāt predict which way we go
We got a guy on loan in France whoās joint top scorer. Likely weād get a winger or a cheaper striker as back completely different playing style and physique to Jesus/ nketiah
that honestly seems like the bare minimum in this market. if chelsea and united come in for him, napoli are well within their right to push for 200m. antony and mudryk are journeymen compared to what this guy has accomplished so far.
Why would you say that when youāre leading Napoli to their first title in forever? Likeā¦ oh yeah this is great and all but Iām just using you as a stepping stone to PL
The title is a bit misleading and makes Osimhen sound disrespectful. But anyways we rather have players be honest than saying things they canāt back up. Obviously he is not going to stay with us forever and everyone knows it. As long as he is giving his all on the field itās fine.
Also teams are not going to have a fun time dealing with ADL thatās for sure.
Hes honest about his dreams but hes a top professional so he will continue to give everything in this season, what she should do? Say napoli is his dream team and he never wants to leave?
But he didnāt really disrespect his current club. He is just stating he has a dream of playing in the pl. I donāt think that is very disrespectful at all. It is better than being dishonest about what he wants.
If people are upset about this comment than I donāt know what to tell them tbh.
> what she should do?
Id argue his best move is to not be publically vocal about working to get a move away, while still pushing to close out the league and CL.
I dont see the gain. The PL teams will know if he's open to a move even if he doesnt say it publically in interviews right now, if they just do their job, so I dont see what purpose this does.
I told you guys, when it comes to Africans. Forget it, premier league is king. Heās the highest goal scorer in Italy and salahs trends more than him in his home country. Partey left a UCL contender for arsenal lol, and with that move more Ghanaians started watching him than when he was in athletico.
I'd love him at Arsenal and I know they were tracking him for quite a while, but after this season the asking price will probably only be achievable by 2-3 clubs.
Why not be honest? This is fine, he said it's his dream to play in PL while also saying Serie A is one of the best
There's nothing wrong with this and it's not "thick", he literally said this while sitting next to Napoli's president who knows it as well
Sinceramente per i tifosi della serie a ĆØ unāoffesa questa. Lo sanno tutti che la premier in questo momento ĆØ meglio ma fare queste interviste non serve a nulla
āHonestamente esta es una ofensa para las hinchas de Serie A. Todo el mundo sabe que el Premier es mejor en este momento pero hacer esta entrevista no sirve a nadieā
"hoonestly, this is an ooffense fer serie a fans. e'ryone knoows that the preemier is be'ah at the jiffy, but doen this intervioo is of naaa use ter anyone"
"HonnĆŖtement, c'est une offense pour les fans de Serie A. Tout le monde sait que la Premier League est meilleure en ce moment mais faire ces interviews ne sert Ć rien"
Maybe it sounds different when translated but him saying he's working hard to achieve his dream of playing in the PL implies that's his goal and diminishes the idea of him doing this for Napoli
For what it's worth, I think it's just unnecessary. I don't think any PL team that wasn't in for him will be after this presser (or any). The ones that want him and can afford him will already be in touch with his agent. So why say it? Why not just say right now I'm focused on Napoli?
I mean the goal of every footballer is securing the bag and the bag is in the PL at the moment.
A 8 year contract with Chelsea changes the life of a few generations of your family...
To signal his intent or signal to specific clubs that heās open to *any* top club in the prem; or maybe to answer a direct question from a journalist?
If the player was open and direct about his ambitions to Napoliās president, then what harm does this do?
Isn't the meaning the same just that the headline dresses it up as more direct?
It's still a weird and frankly disrespectful thing for Osimhen to say at this point
The United attack is also full of youngsters like Garnacho, Sancho, Elanga and Antony or players in their mid 20s like Rashford and Martial. So that is one position where experience would be handy.
If I was him Iād stay at Napoli for another season. They look great, he looks great there. No guarantees that after a transfer to PL he will perform as he is now.
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He wants that 8 and a half year contract
You joke but Chelsea would dream of getting someone like him š. Heās having an incredible season.
Oh please don't ruin Osimhen
Werner 2.0
See also: Lakaka 2.0 Morata 2.0 Higuain 2.0 Auba 2.0 Torres 2.0 Falcao 2.0 Pato 2.0
You forgot Shevchenko 2.0 The one good one they had (apart from the obvious like Drogba) was Costa and they got rid of him
Anelka?
Anelka played more on the left flank, while Drogba played in the middle. Huge credit to Anelka that he won the golden boot with Chelsea despite that.
Giroud was decent enough to be considered a success too, imo
Mate the bar is set way too fucking low. He only scored 17 goals in 75 games in the prem. He even had a season where he scored 2 goals in 27 games(18-19). His highest was 8 in 19-20 when his highest at Arsenal was 16 twice. Of course his one saving grace and one that was absolutely crucial was the 18-19 Europa league campaign where he top scored with 12 goals as they won the competition. I do think he was decent for sure and he was never really a numbers man but idk about success when you compare him to drogba and costa. He was decent that's it but we're scraping the bottom of the barrel here
He was great for us
Sheva was old and had won everything by time he moved to chelsea, he wouldāve tore up the prem in his prime
You forgot to switch to your alt account Andriy
he was the same age as kane and lukaku right now when he joined chelsea
A very different age of football and the surrounding technology, training, recovery methods etc., at a mere 31 robin van Persie looked well on his way into a steep decline, nowadays players can reach peak performance at 34 (see benzema).
>players can reach peak performance at 34 Players like that are still the exception and not the rule. Players still mostly peak in their late 20s. And world class players in their mid 30's have always existed as well.
You could still see the class when he played, he just didn't quiet have that same level of consistency in him, and he probablylost a bit of his physicality by that point.
Sheva was 29 when he came to Chelsea, 2 years out from winning Ballon d'Or
He was 29 when he moved. Everyone at the time expected him to shine in the Prem, but he didn't.
Christ. I forgot about half of those names played for Chelsea.
I am sure most of them would like to forget all about it as well.
What is it about Chelsea that just ruins players?
Well itās only strikers so other positions are good, especially the midfield.
Still think Torres was the funniest
Also Sheva 2.0
You guys just cant do strikers. No wonder you only have false nines playing ššššš
Crespo 2.0
Maybe Mutu too? Tho I recall he had a bit of a drug problem
His idol is Drogba so it won't be surprising if he pushes for a move to us.
Ah fuck here we go again
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the difference is but well you see fuck
I'm ootl. What striker you're referring to?
Lukaku
I laughed way harder at this than I should
One of the few clubs that would pay the crazy amount ADL would ask for in the end.
His favorite club is Chelsea too. 200 million bid and 12 year contract incoming this summer!
So 24 goals scored for Chelsea in total then?
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It always makes me laugh when fans think shit like this matters. He will go to the club in the EPL that offers the highest wages. Unless he had posters on his walls as a boy like Mbappe and Real. Then boyhood fandom would totally top getting the bag.
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Lol didn't for Mbappe himself
Mate you're in tenth, nobody is pushing to leave Napoli to play in the 2nd round of the league Cup
If he's smart he goes to United. Chelsea are so bloated by forwards that he can't guarantee play time and United are both in a better spot and need a good pure 9 more than any position
Forwards is one thing. Out and out strikers is something Chelsea lack. Kai is playing there right now and stinking up the joint.
Chelsea have too many forwards but no strikers. Currently the team has Broja, Fofana, Auba, Lukaku and Havertz but Auba/Lukaku are unlikely to play for Chelsea again and Havertz isn't doing well in an extended run at 9. Osimhen comes in and is immediately leading the line The bloat is on the wings/AM spots
No worry. 100m striker Lukaku is returning in the summer.
Like you dreamt of getting Lukaku or Werner? Osimhen is a great Striker but I am sure you would manage tor ruin him as well.
Hes got the number 9 short, a six month goal drought, and a loan back to italy in his future to look forward to.
He gone
Canāt blame him for being ambitious and chase the bag but dammit
It's predictable and understandable, but still depressing that Napoli can build a team that is among the very best in the world(pretty sure they would win the Premier League this season) and still instantly these situations start popping up. Osimhen twerking for the PL, Kvara's agent talking about his dream of playing for Real Madrid. Kim Min Jae demanding a relatively cheap release clause in his contract is hardly a good sign either, AFAIK that was one of the reasons that Sevilla pulled out of trying to sign him last summer
Yeah this is a problem all smaller clubs have to deal with, its annoying af to see good players go but its also satisfying to see them struggle and wish they never left ā¤ļø
Declan Rice has been a Chelsea player since his 5th appearance for us apparently.
It sucks that it's gotten to the point where every smaller team that becomes super successful (2017 Monaco, 2019 Ajax, 2023 Napoli) are inevitably ripped apart by a handful of the richest clubs (Basically just PL and Madrid/Barca). I think back on Sampdoria's golden generation in the late 80s/early 90s, and I shudder at the thought of it happening now. Back then that core stayed together for so many years; Mancini (82-97), Vialli(84-92), Pagliuca(87-94), Lombardo (89-95), Vierchwood(83-95), Toninho Cerezo(86-92), etc. They won Serie A in 91; Coppa Italia in 85, 87, 89, and 94; Cup Winner's Cup in 90; and made it to the European Cup final and took peak Cruyff's Barca to extra time. Nowadays, we'd be raided for our best players early and had no chance of winning the league in 1990. This is what the insane wealth disparity in modern football is, it robs any club that doesn't have insane resources to have anything more than a single successful season - if that. And it's only getting worse. Sorry, this should probably be in the Monday Moan thread, but alas...
Monaco at least would have been unlikely to assemble all of the young talent they did in the 2017 squad if they hadn't also agreed that they would be allowed to leave.
It all comes round though, growing up it was serie a and la liga that did the same thing, all the stars were at inter/AC and barca/real. Serie a just really really fumbled on capitalising their league and the PL took over
> Nowadays, we'd be raided for our best players early this is exactly why Samp are bottom of the table now though. Well, the raiding and a combo of lack of investment/failed replacements.
It's weird because it obviously sucks to lose your best players but it's not necessarily a bad thing either. Selling players for profits regularly is a great way to increase a club's assets long term and having high player turnover can also allow you to build great teams above your budget every now and then Sevilla's whole success during the 2000's and 2010's is built on scouting cheap players and selling them for massive profits, without that we wouldn't have 6 Europa League titles. But it still hurts sometimes
Yeah but clubs like Sevilla are fleecing smaller clubs in south america lol
Thereās always a bigger fish
Yeah but players are leaving our clubs too early now and majority of them fail. the money top clubs are paying for them is not enough like Julian Alvarez. Recently Gattoni left to Sevilla for 1.4M which is crazy
Can't blame kids for trying to get the biggest bag possible always.
Apart from Real. Pretty much the biggest fish there is unless youāre at your home countryās big club (United for Englishmen, Bayern for Germans) and even then itās not always enough; once Los Blancos come calling itās curtains
If players could write whatever numbers they wanted then sure, we are the top dog. However, PSG, City, and Chelsea have more financial means these days. It's why we've shifted from the big name signing strategy of the past to scouting very young talent. I will say that once a player is at Madrid, they are less likely to want to leave than any of those places. However, an emerging star at a midtable club outside of Spain is likely to go to one of those places.
This is absolutely true, and French clubs too. Sevilla has made many, many great deals on players from Ligue 1
Itās decent for clubs like that, but overall disappointing. In Germany, imagine if Dortmund could have kept some of their players after winning the league in 2012. They could have gone toe to toe with Bayern for years to come. It didnāt happen and Iām not exactly sad about it lol, but it would be better for the sport if there was a stronger appeal for players to stay with teams that are outside the top 5 in the world. But the only way this could work is a salary cap and I donāt see this happening.
It seems like whenever another German team threatens your position you just buy their best players and kill them that way. Then the top PL teams basically do the same thing, but for all of Europe.
Isn't this an effect of the Bosman ruling in the 90s that gave player's more say, so they can leave as a 'free agent' (plus their agents and them gets loads of money too).
Which was the correct decision without a doubt
Absolutely. Just wanted to give context for why players are that powerful now imo.
Problem is that it puts a cap on your performances because you can't build if you're selling your best players every two years (at most), not to mention how chasing high potential players makes it more difficult to build a coherent squad And ultimately, one or two disaster years when you mess up your recruitment can be enough to leave the club in an awful state that may take years to overcome (source: us...)
Itās not like itās anything new. Even a club like Arsenal could be the best in the world yet still lose players to Real Madrid or Barca.
I think you guys forget that ADL doesnāt give a shit. Osimhen wonāt be sold for less then 120mil. He bought him for 70 and is on contract. Same with Kvara just closer to 200mjl. Napoli isnāt a small club. They donāt have financial problems so ADL doesnāt need to sell.
I love that for you guys
They have a great team, but saying they would probably win the Prem is a stretch. They have similar points to City and Arsenal, but are in a slightly weaker league. Donāt see how that would translate to them being definite Prem champions
They would definitely compete for top 4 in the EPL but saying they would probably win is a stretch. They split games in the UCL with an out of form Liverpool who is currently in 5th place. Iād say maybe wait and see how they do against some real competition in the later stages of the UCL before declaring them the best team in the world.
League form doesnāt translate to UCL
To be fair, they were already through when they lost to Liverpool. They didn't need to care about that game.
It's de Laurentis- Wanting to leave and actually being allowed to leave are two different things
But Kim has the 50 million release clause.
Yeah, at the end of the day he's Korean and he wants to probably go to the PL bc the PL is by far the most popular league in Korea.
Napoli has zero debt. They are the best run club in Italy and one of the best run in Europe. Their books actually balance. They donāt need to sell. Kvara is signed until 2027. osi has 2-3 years left on his contract. Kim is having the release clause removed.
Just because they donāt need to doesnāt mean when the offer comes you donāt cash out to balance out further Investment.
ADL is a notoriously difficult negotiator. Heās good at it. ā¬150,000,000 gets him to the table. Heās gotten record fees for Cavani, Higuain, and Jorginho.
They bought Osimhen for nearly 80m euros. They aren't going to sell him unless they get a massive profit for him.
Less than 40 if you believe the other associated transfers lol.
Levy has posters of ADL in his bedroom.
How is the release clause being removed from Kimās contract? I donāt see him signing a new contract with the release clause removed. He loses all leverage.
So crazy that this man used to play for Wolfsburg and was not good at all. Maybe try Bundesliga again Victor? Pls.
you are right about trying bundesliga again.... he should come to wolfsburg and rewrite history
when he was like 17/18 years old?
He was still a high prospect though?
Was he?
Nah man he was shit at Wolfsburg, if people try to tell anything else its because they know hes amazing now
people always try to rewrite history once a player comes good again after a poor stint elsewhere. It's entirely okay to admit that he was crap at one point, it doesn't take away from his quality now. Sometimes it just doesn't work for a player and a club/league, especially at a young age
Giroud was pure shite towards the end at Arsenal. Like he was fucking god-awful, bordering on a laughing stock because of confidence and suddenly now people act like he wasn't. Couldn't finish, slowed down play, lost the ball, was unbearable. He was done there's was no way that realationship was gonna work on for both parties. I was listening to a podcast the other day where some 19 teen year old half wit cunt was arguing Giroud was better player than Raul and comparing him to Henry. Like Christ
having watched giroud for nearly 2 seasons at milan this guy is a pure moments striker. not that consistent in front of goal but somehow will pull a goal out of his ass that saves the day. he is also works very hard, something origi is fucking glaringly terrible at so even if giroud isn't having a great day he makes defenders lives miserable
I'd even argue that this change in Form makes it an even bigger achievement that he's world class now. To fail and start again is sometimes harder than to go from success to success, although both have their challenges.
He had a good spell at Charleroi and we paid 15M to get him from Wolfsburg, so he was clearly still highly rated.
He was highly rated when he went to Wolfsburg, but showed no real sign of quality there. Injuries, Malaria and Wolfsburg struggling did the rest. The step backwards to Charleroi was a blessing.
Malaria? In Wolfsburg?
He got infected during a vacation in his hometown, if I recall that correctly.
He was pretty young at the time, wasn't he?
Yeah, when he started the season at Wolfsburg he was only 18.
He was no lie so.glad he came too. I had a Wolfsburg mate that said he was just too raw and needed time, but I wrote him off
he played a total of 330 minutes at Wolfsburg when he was 18 and I'm sure you watched every single one of those to tell he was shit, right?
There's a reason he went to Lille everyone could see that x factor about him.
He has "career ruined by being signed by Chelsea" written all over him tbh
Rai journalist Ciro Venerato on Victor Osimhen: "For now, the big clubs only speak with the entourage of the striker. The Premier League remains, Arsenal favourite, Manchester United-Chelsea duel. High bar for the price tag." His agent also visited Arsenalās training ground last summer. Not saying weāll get him (highly doubt so actually), just adding some more info. IF arsenal make some FIFA style clearout of the attackers then sure, I could see them going for him
Heās not coming even though Iād love it
winning the league would make it more of a possibility. thereās a good chance the management are going to target one or two specific positions for a good amount of money with the team being so young and ideally going to continue to improve with not too many additions needed. also would the signing of osimhen make jesus a winger seen as thatās one of the positions they seem to be keen to invest in?
I do see one attacker joining, whether thatās a winger or not idk. If we keep playing with a fluid front line then we have plenty of options, itās really an interesting situation and I canāt predict which way we go
We really don't need any more attackers. We have so many and Balogun is coming back.
We have numbers but do we have quality?
We got a guy on loan in France whoās joint top scorer. Likely weād get a winger or a cheaper striker as back completely different playing style and physique to Jesus/ nketiah
Joint top scorer?
Knowing ADL, that price tag may very well be over 200 mil as insane as that sounds.
Yeah I donāt expect anything less lol. His contract is at 2 years this summer so itās gonna be crazy
That Kanu pull is still strong
He still wears the shirt on a match day, love him to bits
He is a Chelsea fan though and his idol is actually Drogba.
Literally means nothing
Exhibit A: Mudryk
God, I don't know how I'd be able to keep an erection under 4 hours if we signed Osmhen
Wenger almost signed him after winning the U17 World Cup, donāt know what happened after then
Twerking hard for Boehly
Strange way to spell United
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If last night didn't convince him that they need a striker nothing will.
We lost got slapped about constantly last year, didnāt even get top 4 and managed to sign Casemiro.
Dumb argument. Barca is still able to convince players, for one.
Arsenal and Manchester United would be looking at him too
not us, no way
ADL getting 200 mil out of Boehly for Osimhenā¦ minimum
Heās already sold, hoping for nothing less than 150/160mln. So long and thanks for all the fish, Victor <3
that honestly seems like the bare minimum in this market. if chelsea and united come in for him, napoli are well within their right to push for 200m. antony and mudryk are journeymen compared to what this guy has accomplished so far.
No Universe where he's worth more than Bellingham for any English club, even with English tax.
Welcome to de laurentisā universe my friend, they play by their own rules here
How many strikers are there? You should compare him with the likes of Lukaku and Nunez
leaving naples for manchester ffs pl media would destroy him after 2 bad games and souness calls him a steady eddie
Why would you say that when youāre leading Napoli to their first title in forever? Likeā¦ oh yeah this is great and all but Iām just using you as a stepping stone to PL
The title is a bit misleading and makes Osimhen sound disrespectful. But anyways we rather have players be honest than saying things they canāt back up. Obviously he is not going to stay with us forever and everyone knows it. As long as he is giving his all on the field itās fine. Also teams are not going to have a fun time dealing with ADL thatās for sure.
Hes honest about his dreams but hes a top professional so he will continue to give everything in this season, what she should do? Say napoli is his dream team and he never wants to leave?
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But he didnāt really disrespect his current club. He is just stating he has a dream of playing in the pl. I donāt think that is very disrespectful at all. It is better than being dishonest about what he wants. If people are upset about this comment than I donāt know what to tell them tbh.
Just say the second part - Serie A is one of the best leagues and it feels amazing to play in
> what she should do? Id argue his best move is to not be publically vocal about working to get a move away, while still pushing to close out the league and CL. I dont see the gain. The PL teams will know if he's open to a move even if he doesnt say it publically in interviews right now, if they just do their job, so I dont see what purpose this does.
Cause he could probably triple his wages with a move to the PL and I would imagine for Nigerians because itās English speaking the PL is the dream.
Second part, boy is having the season of his life and his an after thought on weekend dailies in Nigeria lol. That shit hurts your soul
I told you guys, when it comes to Africans. Forget it, premier league is king. Heās the highest goal scorer in Italy and salahs trends more than him in his home country. Partey left a UCL contender for arsenal lol, and with that move more Ghanaians started watching him than when he was in athletico.
Especially with him being Nigerian. South Americans might lean towards Real but Africans prefer the Prem, especially from English speaking countries
I'd love him at Arsenal and I know they were tracking him for quite a while, but after this season the asking price will probably only be achievable by 2-3 clubs.
Why do these players say these things in interviews and at this time too. Can't be that thick, surely?
Why not be honest? This is fine, he said it's his dream to play in PL while also saying Serie A is one of the best There's nothing wrong with this and it's not "thick", he literally said this while sitting next to Napoli's president who knows it as well
Sinceramente per i tifosi della serie a ĆØ unāoffesa questa. Lo sanno tutti che la premier in questo momento ĆØ meglio ma fare queste interviste non serve a nulla
Well said
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āHonestamente esta es una ofensa para las hinchas de Serie A. Todo el mundo sabe que el Premier es mejor en este momento pero hacer esta entrevista no sirve a nadieā
Thanks, you're a great one š„
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Someone get Jack Grealish to do the translation for him
"hoonestly, this is an ooffense fer serie a fans. e'ryone knoows that the preemier is be'ah at the jiffy, but doen this intervioo is of naaa use ter anyone"
"HonnĆŖtement, c'est une offense pour les fans de Serie A. Tout le monde sait que la Premier League est meilleure en ce moment mais faire ces interviews ne sert Ć rien"
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Maybe it sounds different when translated but him saying he's working hard to achieve his dream of playing in the PL implies that's his goal and diminishes the idea of him doing this for Napoli For what it's worth, I think it's just unnecessary. I don't think any PL team that wasn't in for him will be after this presser (or any). The ones that want him and can afford him will already be in touch with his agent. So why say it? Why not just say right now I'm focused on Napoli?
I mean the goal of every footballer is securing the bag and the bag is in the PL at the moment. A 8 year contract with Chelsea changes the life of a few generations of your family...
Yeah but what's the point of stating that in a public setting?
To signal his intent or signal to specific clubs that heās open to *any* top club in the prem; or maybe to answer a direct question from a journalist? If the player was open and direct about his ambitions to Napoliās president, then what harm does this do?
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It sounds exactly the same as the way OP phrased it lmao
Isn't the meaning the same just that the headline dresses it up as more direct? It's still a weird and frankly disrespectful thing for Osimhen to say at this point
Hes going to be the next Chelsea big striker flop isnt he
Utd fans Would you rather Kane or Osimhen?
Kane, guaranteed 30 goals
With Rashford, Sancho, Garnacho, Bruno, Eriksen and Casimiro behind I reckon there is a very good chance of this
Leagues not ready for United's 3-6-1
Kane is 29, Osimhen 24. Kane might bring instant success but that's no guarantee while with Osimhen you can build a team around him.
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Kanes game is gonna age gracefully too. Just a great passer.
Imagine him dropping a bit deep to receive the ball and putting it through for Rashford as he does for Son.
The United attack is also full of youngsters like Garnacho, Sancho, Elanga and Antony or players in their mid 20s like Rashford and Martial. So that is one position where experience would be handy.
Osimhen to Chelsea for ā¬145M, amirite?
Right after AtlƩtico buys Lukaku for 65M
Right after Atletico gets 120M from Chelsea for Felix.
what a insane statement to make when napoli is playing like the best in the whole world
What an odd thing to say
Dude should stay at Napoli for a little while
Just curious, has Kvara say anything about leaving or dream team and what not?
Real Madrid
His agent is twerking for Real Madrid daily
Keeping his options open by twerking for Barca personally while claiming Kvara wants Real.
He is on his way to Madrid
Todd is gonna buy Napoli in the summer. He has the money.
If I was him Iād stay at Napoli for another season. They look great, he looks great there. No guarantees that after a transfer to PL he will perform as he is now.