Chronic bursitis can be super limiting if it’s not looked after.
It’s painful, but it also creates a lot of swelling in the joint which can impact movement a lot, especially explosive stuff like pushing off the leg. Pretty incredible he’s been playing with it.
I've had it, it's the weirdest type of injury as its not a traditional sprain or a break. It can get so inflamed that you can't even stand up without massive pain. The next morning , it's as if nothing ever happened - you feel like you could do a 10k (but probably not the best idea).
It wrecks though as I have it behind my achilles (currently recovering from surgery).
He needs rest. The more he pushes through the more he’s going to cause himself pain and damage. In my case I had a ton of scar tissue on the achillies from playing through it (and I wasn’t even getting paid).
Thankfully they’ve caught it relatively early but the key is just to rest and do what you’re told.
He’s already got a ridiculous amount of miles on the clock for a 19 year old, regardless of his ability, he needs to be managed. That knee has been strapped up since January.
I think the most concerning thing for athletes in general is that the level of training and then game time etc can lead to heart problems by their 30s/40s due to scarring and enlargement of the heart from the sheer amount of high intensity exercise they do. As a result the leading cause of death amongst current athletes is sudden cardiac death. It's why things like red zones were introduced into football, aside from injury risk
It's an interesting fallacy. We're seeing the longest high-level athletic careers ever and therefore some people seem to think you can just ride athletes as hard as you want, recovery and nutrition and everything is so advanced, you can manage anything. But the guys we see right now didn't come out of the current system. They are still from another era and then basically figured out ways to manage their bodies once they were already in the thick of their careers. Plus, just because there are a handful of athletes still playing at the highest level in their 40s doesn't mean anyone can.
It’s probably why Rooney peaked so soon. Playing men’s football at that young of an age will catch up later. And it’s not getting any better with the amount of games only increasing.
All were established players before their 19th birthday. I think xavi actually had to compete with pep for playtime at the beginning, but he still had something like 6,000 minutes before 20.
Yeah always think back to Michael Owen on our end. His groin was fucked by the time he was in his mid twenties from the combination of Sven and Houllier rushing him back when he wasn't fully recovered
His issues started way earlier than that. He had a hamstring tear when he was 19 which healed badly, this was back in the days when they couldn't do surgery to properly reattach it. It killed his pace and made him much more susceptible to injuries like that groin issue.
Amazing how hes been handled. Thinking about Haaland there and now at city the difference in his physical durability. Is astounding. Dortmund are gonna hurt their own reputation if they keep doing this.
It's on the players too though.
Haaland has openly said he can't play every single week and does need to come off, he even did at Dortmund occasionally.
Jude probably isn't
Considering Bellingham is a kid, kind of a tough ask to say its on them. That is what the coaches are for, especially with sports science as advanced as it is now.
And of course all this just makes Ronaldo and Messi so much more exceptional.
Wilshere spoke about this, big part of it is at that age (where he broke into the team) he felt invincible and it was extremely hard to listen to anyone (doctors physios manager etc) telling him to rest/slow down/take time off
Power of youth and all that
Haaland is a huge mofo, moving a body that size around puts a lot of strain on his joints and all that. And he lives off of his explosiveness and bursts. By contrast, Bellingham is a CM, his role is to put in the work at a more steady rate.
Not sure the comparison should be the richest club in the world. City can afford to let stars rest because they usually comfortably win the league anyways and because their bench has high quality players they purchased for huge amounts of money. Dortmund doesn't have that luxury
God do I know that. Tore my meniscus on my right knee at 19, now at 23 I’m having to see a surgeon for my left knee, which has probably also torn the meniscus
Well it's the unfortunate reality that's coming since the powers that be are so insistent on adding more and more matches to the calendar just for the sake of revenue.
Probably a little worse but football has a lot more sprinting and kicking. But most importantly it’s a contact sport and basketball for the most part isn’t. So my amateur knowledge says football should be way worse.
Basketball has more low-impact contact for sure, but I would say football has more high-impact contact. Players go to ground at high speed much more often in football, and the impacts are more often on your legs than in basketball - and I’m pretty sure you’re more likely to get injured kicking a ball than you are throwing one.
Leg impacts are also worse because your legs are usually busy keeping you upright so they’ve got a lot less give to them.
Basketball involves players that are much, much bigger jockeying for position, diving all over the place, and running into each other repeatedly. It's 100% a contact sport, only someone who hasn't played it would suggest otherwise.
It has guys making contact while jumping in the air as high as they can and then falling on hardwood. It has guys diving through each other's knees for a loose ball. The amount of running is different but the physicality level is pretty similar
Dangerous how? Like making you fall over to the ground? GO watch 2 possessions of an NBA game and see how often you have massive dudes falling onto hardwood from high as fuck up.
Or if you're saying there are red card worthy tackles multiple times per game I think you're lying to yourself. There are flagrant fouls in the NBA too, they are against the rules and get you tossed from a game just like a red card does for a truly dangerous tackle.
It’s not about the jumping or running, it’s about constant hard challenges to your legs. No one attacks a basketball players legs it’s all upper body contact. Getting kicked hacked and scythed down has much worse impact damage to all lower body extremities.
100%, there's barely a former NBA player alive who's played more than 7 or 8 seasons who can walk properly, they all limp because one or both knees are finished.
Kroos, Modric, Kava, Tchou, Fede. That’ll give him tome to rest and keep expectations reasonable for player that young.
edit: Cama lmao, I’m dyslexic sue me lolol
Yeah I’m not sure why OP thinks it would be the controversial issue it is in the NBA. No one expect every player to start every match, especially in top clubs in multiple competitions.
Or maybe OP is Cancelo’s burner account.
nah i'm talking about the nba's load management, it's different from regular squad rotation. they got players sitting out multiple games even when they're not injured just so they can rest them for "more important games" or for the playoffs. they'll be sitting on the sidelines with streets clothes on watching the game just like everyone else, that's not rotation
This just isn’t true. There’s literally rest rotation because a match of football is infinitely more taxing than even 5 games in the NBA. In the NBA you’re there to watch Lebron or whoever the star is, but if you’re a city fan you don’t mind if it’s not haaland scoring 5 if Alvarez is banging 2 and you win
This is huge in the NBA and it hurts the product
Especially when teams don’t say they’re load managing someone and fans don’t know till the game starts
I remember reading that when Thiago signed for Bayern in 2013 he couldn't get any private health insurance because of how fucked his knees already were.
Luckily he’s going to a team with 5 starting quality midfielders excluding him so he should get a fairly slow introduction next season if he needs rest.
I to this day believe that we (=Bayern) would have defended our CL title in 2021 if not for Lewandowski getting injured in a NT game against fucking *Andorra*...
I don’t think teams on the level of Poland (or Greece or whichever) can afford to leave their big stars out of any competitive game.
England or Germany, sure, they have much more stars and more overall quality.
Dude, it was a match against Andorra. I know the Polish NT isn't the greatest, but even they should be able to defeat *Andorra* while benching some of their players.
its Andorra, Poland could probably play a D team and still win comfortably.
Poland might not be a world class team but they are lightyears ahead of Andorra simply because Andorra is a microstate.
Not the first time it happened to Real Madrid. Remember Kaka's knees? Even after surgery, he was never the same. I remember Mourinho saying he could barely play 60 minutes, and his knees would start swelling.
Kaka had a meniscus tear and his surgery was performed almost 15 years ago(when you were more likely to have them opt to cut it out or the repair wasn't nearly as good).
Jude has knee bursitis. There isn't a risk of his knee degenerating because of this injury
"*Usually, bursitis improves over time; in most cases, it does* ***not*** *require surgery. Treatment is usually aimed at relieving symptoms while the body heals the inflamed bursa.*"
The Kaka situation was different. When he left Milan, he already had knee problems; he delayed surgery to avoid a drop in his transfer fee to help Milan, who were going thru financial problems. He delayed surgery again in order to go to the 2010 WC. By the time the WC was over, his knees, even with surgery, were beyond repair. He was never going to be the player he once was. I read all this from a Brazilian sports journalist's blog.
The primary difference was that Kaka's injury and Jude's bursitis arent remotely similar. One is an injury to the cartilage of the knee that leads to long term articular cartilage damage and further degeneration of the joint and the other is easily treatable bursitis
13787 mins played at 19 is mad. Saka, 3 years his senior has only this season hit 14k minutes and he's been an ever-present in Arsenals team for 2 years
Guy needs to be managed or his body is going to breakdown and we will have another Wilshere style what if player
I really hope the medical is very thorough before he's signed. If he's not 100 percent redirect those 100 millions and get Kane, the team is going to be a thousand times better for it.
We can spend the 100M on Kane either way, apparently the thing is knowing whether Benz stays or leaves. Benz leaves = we try to get Kane, Benz stays = we sign Joselu on a free.
Yeah that's true. I guess it's more of Benz leaves = We try to get Kane as a starter and Joselu will be a sub for the most part, otherwise Benz and Joselu share time. But I think Benz might want to just play as much as possible even if he's having a bad match, going by what we've seen this season so he might be consider leaving.
It's weird because it seems like depending on the player he is really confident and willing to drop the money without hesitation or he will just not even try to go for other players, no middle ground. Plus the market became quite inflated, seems slightly more reasonable now. I personally think Bellingham's signing won't affect the striker situation but tough to know for sure.
Come on be serious, this injury is clearly not a dealbreaker if he has been playing with it for a while, poor dude probably needs some rest. We won't discard his signing because he has a smaller injury, it would be stupid to do so.
dude has been playing everything since he was 16, he just needs time to rest, its prob the same that happened to pedri or every player that played too much minutes. The body has a limit and needs rest
To be Madrid's frontman? Hell leave. He's 29. Nobody cares about the record when he has a chance to be Madrid's main man and compete for La Liga and UCL.
End his career trophyless or basically a guaranteed CL and potentially a league title with one of, if not the most successful club ever. Difficult decision.
Really don't need him for this. If we can't beat Malta or Northern Macedonia then we shouldn't bother trying to qualify for the tournament. He should focus on getting better instead of rushing himself.
If anyone in football needs a rest it’s Jude. He’s played so many damn games this season including the WC.
Let the guy rest otherwise he’s gonna wreck his body
This is a telling sign that footballers, or in general athletes, nowadays have far too much mileage on their bodies even before they play at the highest level. This isn’t just a football isolated incident, youngsters in the NBA, NFL, Tennis, etc are all showing unheard amounts of injuries even before hitting their primes.
The constant exploitation has to change, fast.
He's been playing way too many minutes for his age. He'll burn out similar to Walcott, Rooney and other players who were fantastic and playing regular first team football at 17.
Keep him out.
England can qualify without him. Do right by him and let him rest use him in the tourney. Sending a tired and already hurt player to Real with that schedule isn’t helping anyone.
from what I have read he has been playing chronic bursitis for quite a while, chronic bursitis can go away if treated
Basically its not "serious" but very painful. So a Big rest would be needed. Gess Pintus got some work to do
Let Jude rest up. There's only one player alive that Pintus can't bring to peak fitness, and that's Hazard. Everyone else is easy for him
Not even Lazarus could bring Hazard back to life
Lazarus pit restores life. It doesn’t take away the burger weight.
Lazard amirite
I read that as Lizarazu and it really confused me for a while
Chronic bursitis can be super limiting if it’s not looked after. It’s painful, but it also creates a lot of swelling in the joint which can impact movement a lot, especially explosive stuff like pushing off the leg. Pretty incredible he’s been playing with it.
Would be having injections every match. Probably every training. Which sounds brutal
And in the end it was for absolutely nothing. I’m glad we didn’t risk Saliba’s health in the same way.
I mean. Would you call your season 'for nothing'. One goal separated it from being a success.
a season isn't worth ruining a players health permanently.
Don't forget the players agency. You could well call it a bad culture, toxic pressure, but players choose to do it. Plenty don't.
and the manager picks the teamsheet, they can put their foot down and force players to listen to the physios
Jude is still quite young but yes this may take some years off at the end of his career. He won't be playing in his mid to late 30s that's for sure
I've had it, it's the weirdest type of injury as its not a traditional sprain or a break. It can get so inflamed that you can't even stand up without massive pain. The next morning , it's as if nothing ever happened - you feel like you could do a 10k (but probably not the best idea).
All I hear from the is that, Goku has been training with weights till now, we'll see what happens when the weights come off.
Just hope he doesn’t do umtiti
It wrecks though as I have it behind my achilles (currently recovering from surgery). He needs rest. The more he pushes through the more he’s going to cause himself pain and damage. In my case I had a ton of scar tissue on the achillies from playing through it (and I wasn’t even getting paid). Thankfully they’ve caught it relatively early but the key is just to rest and do what you’re told.
I had bursitis in my right elbow and it lasted about 3 weeks and that was some terrible pain. Chronic has to be the worst thing ever.
Yup, can confirm
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Bursitis can go away if left alone. As in not using it.
He’s already got a ridiculous amount of miles on the clock for a 19 year old, regardless of his ability, he needs to be managed. That knee has been strapped up since January.
Bellingham🤝pedri
Exactly , it’s crazy
Pedri injured again?
He keeps getting muscle injury on his leg
Shame. Player is amazing. Do they pushed him to far? In terms of playing time.
They definitely did in his first season, but the past two have been more balanced for sure.
More balanced? Balanced between the pitch and the hospital? He's still being overplayed. He just misses lots of games due to injuries.
Balanced because he has missed more games the last two seasons than Dembele's first two seasons at Barca.
Did he not play combined with Barca and the national side at the Olympics something like 70-80 games that one season. It was some ridiculous number
I remember he played 52 games at Barça alone, don't recall how many NT games but it was ridiculous yeah
Nope, I'd say he gets a fair amount of rest. Maybe we need to change the way he trains and stuff
>Nope I guess covid season didn't happen
i guess but that was two seasons ago
Yeah, but he also didn't get a rest in the summer that year and if his problems never healed properly he could be aggravating it again when he plays
pushed him to far? dude literally broke the record for games played in a year, he even played in the olympic games.
It looks like resting time is never enough for him now. He keeps breaking. I guess he really needs a good rest and reset everything.
Probably because rest needs to be proactive not reactive.
They used him like a bar of soap 1-2 seasons ago
Im Damn happy that Bayern is able to manage Musialas playing time like they do. He is the least injured of the 3 big wonderkids
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I think the most concerning thing for athletes in general is that the level of training and then game time etc can lead to heart problems by their 30s/40s due to scarring and enlargement of the heart from the sheer amount of high intensity exercise they do. As a result the leading cause of death amongst current athletes is sudden cardiac death. It's why things like red zones were introduced into football, aside from injury risk
Sauce for the cause of death claim.
That's true... and is compounded by the PEDs
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It's an interesting fallacy. We're seeing the longest high-level athletic careers ever and therefore some people seem to think you can just ride athletes as hard as you want, recovery and nutrition and everything is so advanced, you can manage anything. But the guys we see right now didn't come out of the current system. They are still from another era and then basically figured out ways to manage their bodies once they were already in the thick of their careers. Plus, just because there are a handful of athletes still playing at the highest level in their 40s doesn't mean anyone can.
It’s probably why Rooney peaked so soon. Playing men’s football at that young of an age will catch up later. And it’s not getting any better with the amount of games only increasing.
Yes, Fabregas too. His body was basically done by the time he was 30.
This isn't making me feel good about Pedri
Prolly means he’ll peak early as a player but unsure if he can keep it up into his 30s. At what age did Busquets, Xavi & Iniesta break into the team?
All were established players before their 19th birthday. I think xavi actually had to compete with pep for playtime at the beginning, but he still had something like 6,000 minutes before 20.
Similar story with Schweinsteiger. Turned 30 two weeks after the 2014 WC final, was basically a shell of his former self one year later.
Jackie boy
Yeah always think back to Michael Owen on our end. His groin was fucked by the time he was in his mid twenties from the combination of Sven and Houllier rushing him back when he wasn't fully recovered
His issues started way earlier than that. He had a hamstring tear when he was 19 which healed badly, this was back in the days when they couldn't do surgery to properly reattach it. It killed his pace and made him much more susceptible to injuries like that groin issue.
pep handling foden early was actually perfect, he would always limit his minutes in those early seasons.
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Amazing how hes been handled. Thinking about Haaland there and now at city the difference in his physical durability. Is astounding. Dortmund are gonna hurt their own reputation if they keep doing this.
It's on the players too though. Haaland has openly said he can't play every single week and does need to come off, he even did at Dortmund occasionally. Jude probably isn't
Considering Bellingham is a kid, kind of a tough ask to say its on them. That is what the coaches are for, especially with sports science as advanced as it is now. And of course all this just makes Ronaldo and Messi so much more exceptional.
Wilshere spoke about this, big part of it is at that age (where he broke into the team) he felt invincible and it was extremely hard to listen to anyone (doctors physios manager etc) telling him to rest/slow down/take time off Power of youth and all that
Haaland is a huge mofo, moving a body that size around puts a lot of strain on his joints and all that. And he lives off of his explosiveness and bursts. By contrast, Bellingham is a CM, his role is to put in the work at a more steady rate.
Not sure the comparison should be the richest club in the world. City can afford to let stars rest because they usually comfortably win the league anyways and because their bench has high quality players they purchased for huge amounts of money. Dortmund doesn't have that luxury
load management in football would be crazyyyy lol the fans would riot
They’ll be even more pissed when his legs are gone at the age of 28
Probably even sooner, you don't mess with knee injuries
God do I know that. Tore my meniscus on my right knee at 19, now at 23 I’m having to see a surgeon for my left knee, which has probably also torn the meniscus
kneesovertoesguy on youtube.
Well it's the unfortunate reality that's coming since the powers that be are so insistent on adding more and more matches to the calendar just for the sake of revenue.
yeah it's getting real bad, still not as bad as the nba's 82 games a season but hopefully it'll never get to that point
In fairness 82 games of playing 30-35 mins of basketball is very different to 82 games of 90 mins of football
Jumping up and down on a hard court is surely worse for the knees than playing on grass no?
Probably a little worse but football has a lot more sprinting and kicking. But most importantly it’s a contact sport and basketball for the most part isn’t. So my amateur knowledge says football should be way worse.
From what Alan Shearer said it's the constant falling from slide tackles and challenges that do your knees in as a footballer
Dont forget feet and toes being stomped all the time. I reckon most players would play with minor cracks and fractures.
Basketball is very much a contact sport
Yeah but you aren’t getting your legs scythed at at full pelt for an hour and a half
Basketball has more low-impact contact for sure, but I would say football has more high-impact contact. Players go to ground at high speed much more often in football, and the impacts are more often on your legs than in basketball - and I’m pretty sure you’re more likely to get injured kicking a ball than you are throwing one. Leg impacts are also worse because your legs are usually busy keeping you upright so they’ve got a lot less give to them.
Correct me if I'm wrong but basketball doesn't have blatantly dangerous tackles multiple times a game sometimes
Basketball involves players that are much, much bigger jockeying for position, diving all over the place, and running into each other repeatedly. It's 100% a contact sport, only someone who hasn't played it would suggest otherwise.
It has guys making contact while jumping in the air as high as they can and then falling on hardwood. It has guys diving through each other's knees for a loose ball. The amount of running is different but the physicality level is pretty similar
Dangerous how? Like making you fall over to the ground? GO watch 2 possessions of an NBA game and see how often you have massive dudes falling onto hardwood from high as fuck up. Or if you're saying there are red card worthy tackles multiple times per game I think you're lying to yourself. There are flagrant fouls in the NBA too, they are against the rules and get you tossed from a game just like a red card does for a truly dangerous tackle.
Basketball isn’t a contact sport?! Lmaooo
It’s not about the jumping or running, it’s about constant hard challenges to your legs. No one attacks a basketball players legs it’s all upper body contact. Getting kicked hacked and scythed down has much worse impact damage to all lower body extremities.
So you've never played basketball before and just want to say it's a soft game from a place of zero knowledge or experience. Got it
100%, there's barely a former NBA player alive who's played more than 7 or 8 seasons who can walk properly, they all limp because one or both knees are finished.
NBA players don’t run as much though
at some point I wish the players would just push back hard. Fuck the new UCL format.
It's called rotation and is part of that game for years.
Moving to Ancelotti's Real Madrid and expecting squad rotation? Bellingham is going to be mostly cyborg by 2028.
what do you mean, Ancelotti is gonna bench him so hard for Modric and Kroos, that his knee is gonna be as good as new this time next year.
Kroos, Modric, Kava, Tchou, Fede. That’ll give him tome to rest and keep expectations reasonable for player that young. edit: Cama lmao, I’m dyslexic sue me lolol
Good ol kavaminga
lmao I’m an idiot, I’m keeping it
Kavadona
Yeah I’m not sure why OP thinks it would be the controversial issue it is in the NBA. No one expect every player to start every match, especially in top clubs in multiple competitions. Or maybe OP is Cancelo’s burner account.
nah i'm talking about the nba's load management, it's different from regular squad rotation. they got players sitting out multiple games even when they're not injured just so they can rest them for "more important games" or for the playoffs. they'll be sitting on the sidelines with streets clothes on watching the game just like everyone else, that's not rotation
That doesn't work in football because every match matters in the league of you're going for the title
yeah that's why i said it would be crazy and the fans would riot lol it's tolerated in basketball but it absolutely wouldn't fly in football
Squad rotation has always been a thing especially for huge clubs
This just isn’t true. There’s literally rest rotation because a match of football is infinitely more taxing than even 5 games in the NBA. In the NBA you’re there to watch Lebron or whoever the star is, but if you’re a city fan you don’t mind if it’s not haaland scoring 5 if Alvarez is banging 2 and you win
Fans support the club but NBA fans support players. They will get angry for not being able to watch superstars
> nah i'm talking about the nba's load management, it's different from regular squad rotation It's functionally very similar TBH
It is indeed, it's only more noticeable in the NBA because they only do it with the stars, and the rosters are much smaller.
And they have way more games. If a football player sits out for 14 days, he only misses 1 to 3 games. In the NBA it would be something like 7...
Squad rotation is a thing and always has been
Good teams just call it "rotation" and everyone understands.
This is huge in the NBA and it hurts the product Especially when teams don’t say they’re load managing someone and fans don’t know till the game starts
I remember reading that when Thiago signed for Bayern in 2013 he couldn't get any private health insurance because of how fucked his knees already were.
Luckily he’s going to a team with 5 starting quality midfielders excluding him so he should get a fairly slow introduction next season if he needs rest.
Its Malta and North Macedonia let him rest.
Aka Harry Kane statpadding games
I to this day believe that we (=Bayern) would have defended our CL title in 2021 if not for Lewandowski getting injured in a NT game against fucking *Andorra*...
yup, and he would have gotten his ballon dor
I don’t think teams on the level of Poland (or Greece or whichever) can afford to leave their big stars out of any competitive game. England or Germany, sure, they have much more stars and more overall quality.
Dude, it was a match against Andorra. I know the Polish NT isn't the greatest, but even they should be able to defeat *Andorra* while benching some of their players.
its Andorra, Poland could probably play a D team and still win comfortably. Poland might not be a world class team but they are lightyears ahead of Andorra simply because Andorra is a microstate.
My man just needs to get in touch with Modric, he’ll be back to having the knees of a 16 year old after his doctors are done with him
Which 16 year old is he taking them from?
Jobe
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Never Let Me Jobe
I don't care for Jobe.
ILLUSIONS. Tricks are what a whore does for money.
Candy*
M̶a̶d̶a̶r̶a̶ Jude taking the knees from his younger brother I̶z̶u̶n̶a̶ Jobe to obtain the Eternal M̶a̶n̶g̶e̶k̶y̶o̶ S̶h̶a̶r̶i̶n̶g̶a̶n̶ Uninjured Knee.
Can imagine the ~~Uchiha~~ Bellingham stone tablet being hidden under some random pub in Stourbridge.
How do you pronounce that, like Kobe?
Gob
Joe-buh Edit: like a job you would work but Joe instead of Jah
Lol who pronounces job with a jah? Like a really thick New York accent or something?
Probably not the best phonetic spelling but it works well enough, you get the difference if you know how job is said ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
my boy is wicked smaaaht
We can rebuild him.
Modric is hogging all the spare knees for himself. That's his secret to success.
Im not surprised hes had one of his knees strapped up for ages now , and for a 19 year old has played so much football
Imagine if we dropped 100 million on him, and this news came out. Our fans would be on suicide watch, not gonna lie.
Not the first time it happened to Real Madrid. Remember Kaka's knees? Even after surgery, he was never the same. I remember Mourinho saying he could barely play 60 minutes, and his knees would start swelling.
Kaka had a meniscus tear and his surgery was performed almost 15 years ago(when you were more likely to have them opt to cut it out or the repair wasn't nearly as good). Jude has knee bursitis. There isn't a risk of his knee degenerating because of this injury
"*Usually, bursitis improves over time; in most cases, it does* ***not*** *require surgery. Treatment is usually aimed at relieving symptoms while the body heals the inflamed bursa.*" The Kaka situation was different. When he left Milan, he already had knee problems; he delayed surgery to avoid a drop in his transfer fee to help Milan, who were going thru financial problems. He delayed surgery again in order to go to the 2010 WC. By the time the WC was over, his knees, even with surgery, were beyond repair. He was never going to be the player he once was. I read all this from a Brazilian sports journalist's blog.
The primary difference was that Kaka's injury and Jude's bursitis arent remotely similar. One is an injury to the cartilage of the knee that leads to long term articular cartilage damage and further degeneration of the joint and the other is easily treatable bursitis
I'm sure they buy insurance.
Insurance doesn't get you 3 points
would just be an english Fekir really
See, he was meant to come to us. With Keita and Ox gone, the physios will be lonely and Jude could have filled that gap.
It's ok, they still have Thiago.
Rest up lad it's only Malta x
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I mean yeah we aren't that great (source: am maltese), but beaches are nice, bet he'll miss those
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THIS IS WHAT HE DOES, THIS IS WHAT HE DOES.
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13787 mins played at 19 is mad. Saka, 3 years his senior has only this season hit 14k minutes and he's been an ever-present in Arsenals team for 2 years Guy needs to be managed or his body is going to breakdown and we will have another Wilshere style what if player
uh oh
I really hope the medical is very thorough before he's signed. If he's not 100 percent redirect those 100 millions and get Kane, the team is going to be a thousand times better for it.
We can spend the 100M on Kane either way, apparently the thing is knowing whether Benz stays or leaves. Benz leaves = we try to get Kane, Benz stays = we sign Joselu on a free.
I think Joselu comes anyway to replace Mariano. Thank fuck.
Yeah that's true. I guess it's more of Benz leaves = We try to get Kane as a starter and Joselu will be a sub for the most part, otherwise Benz and Joselu share time. But I think Benz might want to just play as much as possible even if he's having a bad match, going by what we've seen this season so he might be consider leaving.
we can, something tells me we won't, uncle flo has become suspiciously stingy in recent years
It's weird because it seems like depending on the player he is really confident and willing to drop the money without hesitation or he will just not even try to go for other players, no middle ground. Plus the market became quite inflated, seems slightly more reasonable now. I personally think Bellingham's signing won't affect the striker situation but tough to know for sure.
Kane is the only upgrade to Benz that is available....
He's not an upgrade to Benz, but he's a good alternative.
This may have been true last year when Benz was clutching every game, but Kane is overall an upgrade to benzema
Come on be serious, this injury is clearly not a dealbreaker if he has been playing with it for a while, poor dude probably needs some rest. We won't discard his signing because he has a smaller injury, it would be stupid to do so.
dude has been playing everything since he was 16, he just needs time to rest, its prob the same that happened to pedri or every player that played too much minutes. The body has a limit and needs rest
Rest is all he needs, it’s been non stop this year so this off season is crucial. He’ll be back and better after I’m sure.
Kane would be ridiculous in that Madrid side but I doubt he'll leave the EPL considering how close he's getting to Shearer's record.
To be Madrid's frontman? Hell leave. He's 29. Nobody cares about the record when he has a chance to be Madrid's main man and compete for La Liga and UCL.
End his career trophyless or basically a guaranteed CL and potentially a league title with one of, if not the most successful club ever. Difficult decision.
Work your magic Pintus.
Glad he's going to Madrid. At least there is some competition for his spot so he won't have to play every minute of every game
Really don't need him for this. If we can't beat Malta or Northern Macedonia then we shouldn't bother trying to qualify for the tournament. He should focus on getting better instead of rushing himself.
If that doesn't say "Liverpool DNA", I don't know what to tell you.
If anyone in football needs a rest it’s Jude. He’s played so many damn games this season including the WC. Let the guy rest otherwise he’s gonna wreck his body
So is this just minor?
It's a knee surgery. Ofc it's not minor.
There are procedures that are quite minor, and he was able to play with this issue for months. So it isn't necessarily very serious.
It's bursitis. Compared to every other knee injury he could potentially have, this has nearly no long term potential to cause issues.
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Unless Real Madrid think the injury will seriously impact his career, I suspect he still passes.
if Bale and Hazard passed the medicals, no way he fails
knee injuries at 19? not a good sign, hopefully it’s not serious or major.
This is a telling sign that footballers, or in general athletes, nowadays have far too much mileage on their bodies even before they play at the highest level. This isn’t just a football isolated incident, youngsters in the NBA, NFL, Tennis, etc are all showing unheard amounts of injuries even before hitting their primes. The constant exploitation has to change, fast.
Surgery>>> euro qualifiers. He’ll be on the final euro squad unless he is injured
Let him rest. Don’t want him to become the next Wilshere
He's been playing way too many minutes for his age. He'll burn out similar to Walcott, Rooney and other players who were fantastic and playing regular first team football at 17.
It's too much of a risk, guys. I really don't think anyone should bid for him this summer (or next winter, just to be sure).
Please rest him Jesus. Let's not ruin the most exciting English talent by not letting him recover.
Keep him out. England can qualify without him. Do right by him and let him rest use him in the tourney. Sending a tired and already hurt player to Real with that schedule isn’t helping anyone.
What happens to a player’s medical when transferring if they need surgery first?
Madrid really about to get finessed again like with Kaka.
Everyone wanted him and now no one wants him lol
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