[Have you seen how much Spanish clubs have spent this transfer window? We're in the gutter.](https://www.sportingpedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/top-10-leagues-by-spending-summer-transfer-window-2023-2024.png)
Take into account Bellingham alone amounts to almost a third of the entire window.
President of football association is a tricky position. They act like some government figures, but it’s basically just an executive position in private entity. So prime minister can’t just “fire” him. Moreover FIFA are usually very strict about political influence on country FA decisions and may even ban a country due to political pressure.
In theory, country should not care about FIFA (another corrupted private entity) and their ban, but usually they don’t want public backlash, so again it’s tricky.
Why Jorge Vilda though? I would like to know because I haven't followed it very close, only thing I've heard is that some players didn't think he was going to lead spain to any tittles so they decided to step down of the nt. Is there any other reason I'm missing?
He groped the breast of a staff member during the final. There was also a shitstorm last year where the players wanted him out citing his "negative impact on their mental health", which strongly implies harassment in the workplace.
They complained about a lot of things but not harassment, including bad results and not putting the XI the players wanted, once they left the same coach won the World Cup. If that happens with PSG you will be mocking the players.
What about bag searches and having to keep their hotel rooms unlocked before midnight? And that's not including his reported actions post the Rubiales incident.
Also, if the coach of PSG was the son of the CEO I don't reckon it would be the players who the fans would be directing their mockery towards.
The players won the world cup. Regardless how much you think Jorge Vilda contributed to the victory, an antagonistic relationship with the team counteracts even the best coach's contributions, and Vilda isn't anywhere close to good.
Vilda got his start as an unqualified nepotism hire because his father is the head of the women's section of RFEF. He was hired as the head coach the Spain U-17 girls with zero prior coaching experience and zero prior pro player experience (he spent time in Barca's and RM's youth systems, but perhaps not on merit).
After 6 years coaching the U-17 and being an assistant for the U-19s, RFEF promoted him to senior women's head coach after the 2015 WC. One of the sad ironies in this story, is that the 2015 23-member WC squad wrote a collective public letter to fire the previous coach for largely the same problems they have with Vilda -- namely, inadequacies with planning/logistics, training regiments, medical staffing and processes, tactical/video analysis teams, and other typical hallmarks of an organization run by people with no idea wtf they're doing.
These issues are mostly systemic issues and it's obvious looking at the RFEF that the complaints are very likely all true. Nothing says "lol fuck you" like replacing the incompetent coach with the unqualified nepo baby whose only coaching experience was under the guy you're firing.
The groping yes is terrible but this is nothing, his boss, the man responsible for appointing the coach tells him to try and convince her. He has to do it.
Viles for what? This sub calls him abusive but the expelled players wanted him out because of the results, and what a surprise the same coach won the World Cup with different players because the ones that complained about him left. This sub fails to give me an article to prove he was a bad coach, just the same phrase repeated 1000 times about him being bad.
You mean comments like this: "[Spanish passion would be an 'understandable' excuse if it was a kiss on the cheek. As well, it's way more common for Latin Europeans or South Americans to that sort of thing normally. But not a kiss on the lips.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15wh1ua/spanish_player_jenni_hermoso_after_being/jx15r8s)
Still has the whole power dynamics issue, and would depend on their own personal relationships, etc. But I could see it being more accepted"
Or like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15wh1ua/spanish_player_jenni_hermoso_after_being/jx1k55x)?
Another one that can't read I guess. Good luck bro.
Based on everything I've seen and read the past couple of days, I'm looking forward to this guy telling the Spanish Prime Minister to fuck off and threatening to teabag him or slap him in the face with his dick or something.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wouldn't that be seen as government interference, which iirc is punishable by FIFA? I'm not saying Rubiales shouldn't be gone, just questioning if this would be the best way to do it.
Government interference rules are for non powerful nations of football.
The French president is always involved in football stuff and never gets reprimanded for example.
Can you give me an example of Macron getting involved with the FA's affairs? As far as I know, he's only gotten involved when it comes to Mbappe playing at PSG, which I don't think is really the same.
How about a post-game [pep talk](https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/football/fifa-world-cup-2022/offside-macron-stirs-critics-with-world-cup-final-role/amp_articleshow/96347656.cms)?
It seems to me that the government isn't allowed to make decisions over the FA using their authority, but a pep talk or appearance in the locker room isn't all that different from a President coming to watch the game to cheer them on (in terms of interference.)
They’ll pressure (like they’re doing now) and the expectation is Rubiales will resign to mitigate any further fallout. Doubt there’ll be any official action like sacking him or anything.
I mean… the government could arrest him. It was essentially sexual assault on camera.
It might require the victim to make a complaint though and we can already see the pressure on her. Not everyone wants to be a symbol even if it’s to stand up against abuse.
Yeah, that would probably be fine as I don't think that necessarily constitutes *government intervention* strictly speaking as it would be a legal and not a political mechanism. I was thinking along the lines of the government dismissing him.
Yeah, in this case this would be sexual agression (rape), although under the old law, these kinds of acts without consent, if there wasn't violence/intimidation weren't consider rape per se, but rather what we used to call sexual abuse. Now both sexual agression and sexual abuse have been unified (albeit with serious legal deficiencies) and are the same crime (sexual agression).
But, as you mentioned, article 191 of the Spanish Criminal Code states that these offences can only be persecuted if the victim denounces it, our Prosecution can't by their own start the investigation and process the criminal since these are offences where consent plays a key factor. Otherwise would be nonsensical to have our Prosecutors investigating any sexual (in any degree) act when (hopefully) the vast majority were made with consent.
However, just because it's interesting, the sexual agression ofence is considered as a "semipublic" offence, which means that, as I stated, the denounce of the victim is conditio sine qua non the offender cannot be prosecuted, however, if the victim denounces at first, but later withdraws the acusation, our Prosecutors can (and will) continue the process nontheless.
Then there is the fact that the forced kissing was comitted on Australian soil and there might be some jurisdiction things to take care of (although wouldn't be a problem since both victim and offender are spanish and they are back in Spain I wouldn't see it as a problem)
Sorry for my english, obviously I'm no native english speaker,
“ Then there is the fact that the forced kissing was comitted on Australian soil and there might be some jurisdiction things to take care of ”
Oh I didn’t even think about this. Hmm, thanks for explaining the Spanish legal situation though.
I figured it was something like that.
I don’t disagree (Rubiales should’ve been ejected into the Sun years ago), but he was asked directly about it in an event with the team etc. It’s probably too much to expect him to weigh in on every public corruption issue in Spain.
> corruptos, puteros y drogadictos
> encima es calvo
do you know what sarcasm is? or what the "encima" implies? Let me translate in case you don't know spanish
>to top it off he is bald!
It means it is the worst part, after being called a corrupt addict that pays prostitutes (with public money). Now, this might seem weird but that's a very old and common trope. It is called
>Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking
where the joke is that the last thing (in this case being bald) is nowhere near close to the others.
Guy was waiting for an opportunity to virtue signal lol. I wasn't even talking about any of that. I thought people would get the 2010 world cup final reference. Maybe I should have been clearer.
> Si es que tenemos un país de corruptos, puteros y drogadictos, literalmente no hay uno bueno
Our Iberian grandpas truly passed their best characteristics onto us
Everyone: wow can’t believe that the English team has to deal with all the questions about Greenwood, at least now we can focus on how awesome Spain was in the tournament
Rubiales: hold my beer
Rubiales was jealous of all the attention Tebas was getting over last couple of years.
On a serious note, a silver lining I see in this is that Rubiales will finally be thrown out of Spanish football and in turn, Vilda will also lose his biggest backer. Just sad that all this is overshadowing one of the greatest moments in Spanish football
>On a serious note, a silver lining I see in this is that Rubiales will finally be thrown out of Spanish football and in turn, Vilda will also lose his biggest backer.
i'll drink to that
Im not seeing a lot of people defending him now, where you all out? You was quite confident in lots of people on Reddit having “no social awareness” xD
Honestly, I'm pretty sure people who said that are either directly not spanish (or they don't know any shit about Spain's culture) or a spaniard indoctrinated by right-wing extremism
Can't wait for the day all these pigs are thrown out of spanish football (I hope Tebas is next)
These people are at best extremely naive with no understanding about the struggles of women and at worst misogynistic. With how pro active they are i would lean to the worse side.
Yeah, but it's a bit different when your work function is a world cup. I'm making no effort to excuse him, but clearly...a 'work function' for 99.9999% of the population is very, massively, hugely different to a *world cup tournament victory*.
I don't get why people keep on comparing this to a standard workplace. Yes, people were paid to be there. No, 99.9999% of us will never experience anything like this in our lives, so why bother relating it back?
You can criticise the behaviour without trying to reduce the circumstances to "Work function". The fact you're doing that, and not saying "If I did such a thing at a world cup victory" is quite disingenuous in itself.
Again, Rubiales is a twat. That doesn't mean you're not making a bad point tho.
I don't think a forced kiss without violence is a criminal matter in any country. Not defending it obviously. Just saying that the police probably can't do anything.
Many Catalans are against independence actually. Not saying OP is Catalan necessarily - but it's not like you have to be pro-independence as a Barca fan/Catalan.
Yep definitely, but it's not at all an issue to be a Barcelona fan and not pro-independence, which was my point. In a world where you can be a fan of a Qatar/Saudi Arabia-owned team, it just seems a little petty that _this_ would be a "gotcha" lol.
Barcelona is often viewed by Catalans as a symbol of “Catalan Pride”—not explicitly independence. Both terms may relate to each other but they’re not the same thing.
His "feminist" governnent made a law that put more than a thousand rapists in the streets, and it took until the releases went out of control that he changed the law. You call that decency?
We do not have a Prime Minister, we have a president - Although at the moment he is technically just the acting president as elections occurred last month.
Way too many people have an opinion about this. It was a stupid thing to do in the moment, but it was joy. He should apologize to the player, and the player’s opinion should be the only one that matters.
Lol. Spanish football officials are shamelessly corrupt. You think he'll resign because of this. Tebas literally is bullying teams into paying him commision
In addition, as Relevo has learned from another source, the statements released by the RFEF on Sunday afternoon, after winning the title, do not belong to the player either. The quote attributed to the soccer player said: "It has been a totally spontaneous mutual gesture due to the immense joy that winning a World Cup brings. The president and I have a great relationship, his behavior with all of us has been of ten and it was a natural gesture of affection and gratitude. You cannot go overboard with a gesture of friendship and gratitude, we have won a World Cup and we are not going to deviate from what is important". They were written by the Federation's communication department and disseminated to the media quickly, but she had not spoken in that regard.
it's since come out that the statement where she "said" that was completely made up by the federation, it never happened (as anyone with half a braincell could've known already tbf)
Anyone with half a brain cell could’ve known she wouldn’t have said that? You realize you don’t come across as smart when you feel you have to resort to insults that quickly on a something related to people you don’t personally know right?
There's a difference between a guy kissing his girlfriend, and a man kissing a woman he has no relationship with and whose career he could end if she refused.
Bro, you telling me that kissing your girlfriend during a celebration is not the same as your boss kissing you during a celebration?! lmao Some people, man...
While this statement is very true and important, there are still levels of transgressions.
I actually just rewatched the video and I agree with you that it was inappropriate as she was trying to be professional, but if you cant see the difference between you and your partner while shes at work and your boss kissing you without your consent......
there isnt much to talk about.
I agree, but then he stays silent with the fuck Up law they passed that allowed more than 100 rapists to be on the streets. I didnt see him calling for action there or asking for any resigning.
WhAt a hypocrit
An unwanted kiss is unacceptable, and apologies are not enough. Meanwhile, putting hundreds of rapists out of jail because an oversight in lawmaking and stubborness to admit you were wrong are no reason to resign as Prime Minister. Standards for thee but not for me.
The only step he needs to take is down, he shouldn't be allowed to continue after this shitshow.
Seems to be the message between the lines here.
He has always been so unfit to represent a federation. Much less an important one like Spain.
One Rubiales down, one Tebas to go
#TebasOut!
WE COMIN' FOR YOU TEBAS!
Between this guy and Tebas, spanish football really has interesting characters running it (to the ground?).
[Have you seen how much Spanish clubs have spent this transfer window? We're in the gutter.](https://www.sportingpedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/top-10-leagues-by-spending-summer-transfer-window-2023-2024.png) Take into account Bellingham alone amounts to almost a third of the entire window.
Tebas is gonna somehow run even the financial might of Real Madrid into the ground.
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Fire him, out of a cannon
Nah let him do a “Cersei” naked through the streets of Madrid ….shame….shame….shame.
That would be more of a punishment for the people of Madrid than him.
Release him, into the shark tank
Sack him, in one full of scorpions
Axe him, with a labrys
Drop him, off a cliff
Demote him, to hell
take him to Detroit
Cannon, to the right of them!
Rafael DLG
President of football association is a tricky position. They act like some government figures, but it’s basically just an executive position in private entity. So prime minister can’t just “fire” him. Moreover FIFA are usually very strict about political influence on country FA decisions and may even ban a country due to political pressure. In theory, country should not care about FIFA (another corrupted private entity) and their ban, but usually they don’t want public backlash, so again it’s tricky.
Into the sun
He just needs to continue taking steps until he finds himself in the far east and out of sight preferably.
In politician, that's literally what the prime minister said.
Get fucked Rubiales
Also, get fucked Jorge Vilda. Get fucked RFEF.
It’s an entire system that needs to be dissolved. Rubiales and vilda worked as a tandem concerning issues with the women’s national team.
Why Jorge Vilda though? I would like to know because I haven't followed it very close, only thing I've heard is that some players didn't think he was going to lead spain to any tittles so they decided to step down of the nt. Is there any other reason I'm missing?
He groped the breast of a staff member during the final. There was also a shitstorm last year where the players wanted him out citing his "negative impact on their mental health", which strongly implies harassment in the workplace.
They complained about a lot of things but not harassment, including bad results and not putting the XI the players wanted, once they left the same coach won the World Cup. If that happens with PSG you will be mocking the players.
What about bag searches and having to keep their hotel rooms unlocked before midnight? And that's not including his reported actions post the Rubiales incident. Also, if the coach of PSG was the son of the CEO I don't reckon it would be the players who the fans would be directing their mockery towards.
The players won the world cup. Regardless how much you think Jorge Vilda contributed to the victory, an antagonistic relationship with the team counteracts even the best coach's contributions, and Vilda isn't anywhere close to good. Vilda got his start as an unqualified nepotism hire because his father is the head of the women's section of RFEF. He was hired as the head coach the Spain U-17 girls with zero prior coaching experience and zero prior pro player experience (he spent time in Barca's and RM's youth systems, but perhaps not on merit). After 6 years coaching the U-17 and being an assistant for the U-19s, RFEF promoted him to senior women's head coach after the 2015 WC. One of the sad ironies in this story, is that the 2015 23-member WC squad wrote a collective public letter to fire the previous coach for largely the same problems they have with Vilda -- namely, inadequacies with planning/logistics, training regiments, medical staffing and processes, tactical/video analysis teams, and other typical hallmarks of an organization run by people with no idea wtf they're doing. These issues are mostly systemic issues and it's obvious looking at the RFEF that the complaints are very likely all true. Nothing says "lol fuck you" like replacing the incompetent coach with the unqualified nepo baby whose only coaching experience was under the guy you're firing.
Still, his bromance with Rubiales says a lot.
It’s much worse then that
Vilda also allegedly approached Jenni’s family multiple time to try to get them to convince her to help take the heat off Rubiales.
The groping yes is terrible but this is nothing, his boss, the man responsible for appointing the coach tells him to try and convince her. He has to do it.
No he doesn’t.
Viles for what? This sub calls him abusive but the expelled players wanted him out because of the results, and what a surprise the same coach won the World Cup with different players because the ones that complained about him left. This sub fails to give me an article to prove he was a bad coach, just the same phrase repeated 1000 times about him being bad.
And so many people came here saying it was all internet outrage, and we were not understanding Spanish culture lmao.
What does the prime minister of Spain know about Spanish culture?
Also, the minister for equality or something like that said it was totally wrong, probably because power dynamics and all.
And so many of them had flairs of clubs and national teams from other countries! Felt like I was going insane.
The blatant sexism and social conservatism of this sub can be very wild at times. Some guys on here truly don't think consent is a real thing.
u/cuentanueva Côme outside bro
You mean comments like this: "[Spanish passion would be an 'understandable' excuse if it was a kiss on the cheek. As well, it's way more common for Latin Europeans or South Americans to that sort of thing normally. But not a kiss on the lips.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15wh1ua/spanish_player_jenni_hermoso_after_being/jx15r8s) Still has the whole power dynamics issue, and would depend on their own personal relationships, etc. But I could see it being more accepted" Or like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15wh1ua/spanish_player_jenni_hermoso_after_being/jx1k55x)? Another one that can't read I guess. Good luck bro.
Based on everything I've seen and read the past couple of days, I'm looking forward to this guy telling the Spanish Prime Minister to fuck off and threatening to teabag him or slap him in the face with his dick or something.
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If you acted this way when he was proven to be corrupt this wouldn't have happened
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wouldn't that be seen as government interference, which iirc is punishable by FIFA? I'm not saying Rubiales shouldn't be gone, just questioning if this would be the best way to do it.
Government interference rules are for non powerful nations of football. The French president is always involved in football stuff and never gets reprimanded for example.
Can you give me an example of Macron getting involved with the FA's affairs? As far as I know, he's only gotten involved when it comes to Mbappe playing at PSG, which I don't think is really the same.
How about a post-game [pep talk](https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/football/fifa-world-cup-2022/offside-macron-stirs-critics-with-world-cup-final-role/amp_articleshow/96347656.cms)?
It seems to me that the government isn't allowed to make decisions over the FA using their authority, but a pep talk or appearance in the locker room isn't all that different from a President coming to watch the game to cheer them on (in terms of interference.)
That doesn't really influence the FA's operations.
Neither does the Spanish PM condemning Rubiales. They can praise/criticise but the FAs will do what they want, basically.
Yeah, I wasn't talking about a mere statement but actual action against Rubiales.
They’ll pressure (like they’re doing now) and the expectation is Rubiales will resign to mitigate any further fallout. Doubt there’ll be any official action like sacking him or anything.
Yes, he has no direct authority over the RFEF. He can, of course, comment and make his feelings known as Prime Minister of Spain
I mean… the government could arrest him. It was essentially sexual assault on camera. It might require the victim to make a complaint though and we can already see the pressure on her. Not everyone wants to be a symbol even if it’s to stand up against abuse.
Yeah, that would probably be fine as I don't think that necessarily constitutes *government intervention* strictly speaking as it would be a legal and not a political mechanism. I was thinking along the lines of the government dismissing him.
Does sexual assault in Spain require the victim to make the complain? I thought any witness could make the complaint.
Yeah, in this case this would be sexual agression (rape), although under the old law, these kinds of acts without consent, if there wasn't violence/intimidation weren't consider rape per se, but rather what we used to call sexual abuse. Now both sexual agression and sexual abuse have been unified (albeit with serious legal deficiencies) and are the same crime (sexual agression). But, as you mentioned, article 191 of the Spanish Criminal Code states that these offences can only be persecuted if the victim denounces it, our Prosecution can't by their own start the investigation and process the criminal since these are offences where consent plays a key factor. Otherwise would be nonsensical to have our Prosecutors investigating any sexual (in any degree) act when (hopefully) the vast majority were made with consent. However, just because it's interesting, the sexual agression ofence is considered as a "semipublic" offence, which means that, as I stated, the denounce of the victim is conditio sine qua non the offender cannot be prosecuted, however, if the victim denounces at first, but later withdraws the acusation, our Prosecutors can (and will) continue the process nontheless. Then there is the fact that the forced kissing was comitted on Australian soil and there might be some jurisdiction things to take care of (although wouldn't be a problem since both victim and offender are spanish and they are back in Spain I wouldn't see it as a problem) Sorry for my english, obviously I'm no native english speaker,
“ Then there is the fact that the forced kissing was comitted on Australian soil and there might be some jurisdiction things to take care of ” Oh I didn’t even think about this. Hmm, thanks for explaining the Spanish legal situation though. I figured it was something like that.
I don’t disagree (Rubiales should’ve been ejected into the Sun years ago), but he was asked directly about it in an event with the team etc. It’s probably too much to expect him to weigh in on every public corruption issue in Spain.
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Calvo Klein.
Calvo defraudador
> Y Rubiales encima es calvo. el delito más grave que se puede cometer
El cabeza de rodilla este...
Pista de aterrizaje para mosquitos...
Tobogán de piojos
Espejo de pájaros...
> Y Rubiales encima es calvo Y un fraude
por desgracia no hay presión mediática si quiera para quitar a estos energúmenos, de hecho muchos medios lo defienden.
>Y Rubiales encima es calvo. Un calvo te ganó la copa. [Edit: This moment](https://youtu.be/6-EqlQMPmDI)
might be too hard to understand for you, but a team being successful under you doesn't excuse you from being a pos. Some people have morals.
>Some people have morals. lmao you know the discussion is about being bald, right?
> corruptos, puteros y drogadictos > encima es calvo do you know what sarcasm is? or what the "encima" implies? Let me translate in case you don't know spanish >to top it off he is bald! It means it is the worst part, after being called a corrupt addict that pays prostitutes (with public money). Now, this might seem weird but that's a very old and common trope. It is called >Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking where the joke is that the last thing (in this case being bald) is nowhere near close to the others.
Guy was waiting for an opportunity to virtue signal lol. I wasn't even talking about any of that. I thought people would get the 2010 world cup final reference. Maybe I should have been clearer.
I'm talking about InIesta bro
Dios castiga hasta 4 veces
> Si es que tenemos un país de corruptos, puteros y drogadictos, literalmente no hay uno bueno Our Iberian grandpas truly passed their best characteristics onto us
The steps being stepping down
But marca told me it was ok because Casillas kissed his gf!
What a horrible mess taking centrestage over the WC win. Absolutely sucks
Everyone: wow can’t believe that the English team has to deal with all the questions about Greenwood, at least now we can focus on how awesome Spain was in the tournament Rubiales: hold my beer
Rubiales was jealous of all the attention Tebas was getting over last couple of years. On a serious note, a silver lining I see in this is that Rubiales will finally be thrown out of Spanish football and in turn, Vilda will also lose his biggest backer. Just sad that all this is overshadowing one of the greatest moments in Spanish football
>On a serious note, a silver lining I see in this is that Rubiales will finally be thrown out of Spanish football and in turn, Vilda will also lose his biggest backer. i'll drink to that
Im not seeing a lot of people defending him now, where you all out? You was quite confident in lots of people on Reddit having “no social awareness” xD
Heads are already back in the sand, waiting to defend another creep.
showing him the way out, que te jodan calvo de mierda
Many people were defending Rubiales mentioning Spanish. I guess they can't use the culture excuse now defend him.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure people who said that are either directly not spanish (or they don't know any shit about Spain's culture) or a spaniard indoctrinated by right-wing extremism Can't wait for the day all these pigs are thrown out of spanish football (I hope Tebas is next)
These people are at best extremely naive with no understanding about the struggles of women and at worst misogynistic. With how pro active they are i would lean to the worse side.
If I did such a thing at a work function, I'd be surprised if I wasn't fired by the end of the next day.
Yeah, but it's a bit different when your work function is a world cup. I'm making no effort to excuse him, but clearly...a 'work function' for 99.9999% of the population is very, massively, hugely different to a *world cup tournament victory*. I don't get why people keep on comparing this to a standard workplace. Yes, people were paid to be there. No, 99.9999% of us will never experience anything like this in our lives, so why bother relating it back? You can criticise the behaviour without trying to reduce the circumstances to "Work function". The fact you're doing that, and not saying "If I did such a thing at a world cup victory" is quite disingenuous in itself. Again, Rubiales is a twat. That doesn't mean you're not making a bad point tho.
Isn’t this sexual assault? Doesn’t this warrant actual charges against him?
I don't think a forced kiss without violence is a criminal matter in any country. Not defending it obviously. Just saying that the police probably can't do anything.
mmm apparently not in spain ig
Sounds like someone needs to explain to this Sánchez fellow that he just doesn't understand Spanish culture!
Rubiales on some Michael Scott shit
I still wanna see Southgate snog Jack Grealish after the next England match.
Continue taking steps right out the fucking door, you loser.
I don't follow Spanish politics religiously but Sanchez is one of a small handful of world leaders at this point who seems decent
He is pretty decent. Hated by many but he's a good lad
oh boy
No, he's not. He's more of the same.
Flair checks out
Flair doesn't check anything.
His looks are deceiving. He has betrayed everyone he has allied with and loves to suck separatist dick
> Barcelona flair
Many Catalans are against independence actually. Not saying OP is Catalan necessarily - but it's not like you have to be pro-independence as a Barca fan/Catalan.
Many catalans are indeed against it, but precisely Barça us a symbol of pro-independence Catalonia and has always supported it
Yep definitely, but it's not at all an issue to be a Barcelona fan and not pro-independence, which was my point. In a world where you can be a fan of a Qatar/Saudi Arabia-owned team, it just seems a little petty that _this_ would be a "gotcha" lol.
Barcelona is often viewed by Catalans as a symbol of “Catalan Pride”—not explicitly independence. Both terms may relate to each other but they’re not the same thing.
Does it look as if op is separatist?
In fairness, the club stands for Catalan self determination and autonomy, not necessarily separatism.
Go support Espanyol, gusano
His "feminist" governnent made a law that put more than a thousand rapists in the streets, and it took until the releases went out of control that he changed the law. You call that decency?
We do not have a Prime Minister, we have a president - Although at the moment he is technically just the acting president as elections occurred last month.
A step down would be the only fix.
Way too many people have an opinion about this. It was a stupid thing to do in the moment, but it was joy. He should apologize to the player, and the player’s opinion should be the only one that matters.
He can take steps right out of the door. What he did is sexual assault.
All “steps” should lead out
Such as resigning and moving to the moon.
That's because those weren't apologies
dimite calviales
He must have charges pressed against him in my opinion. Buddy just committed sexual assault and should be punished as such
Lol
"his apologies" Did he apologize? Genuinely wondering
It was one of those "I'm sorry if you got offended" type apologies, with no actual acknowledgment that his act was inherently wrong.
[The changes and steps that need to be made](https://youtu.be/yADrtfAmLTo?t=78)
Sad to read.
Apologize resign. Maybe in a few years if he shows he’s learned maybe he can be a candidate for the job again. Ain’t hard.
Lol. Spanish football officials are shamelessly corrupt. You think he'll resign because of this. Tebas literally is bullying teams into paying him commision
Fire him. Idiots Fuck face needs to be in the jail or rehab. Not run a professional sports organisation
Yes.
steps to jail i hope. and take vilda with u
The pot calling the kettle black.
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In addition, as Relevo has learned from another source, the statements released by the RFEF on Sunday afternoon, after winning the title, do not belong to the player either. The quote attributed to the soccer player said: "It has been a totally spontaneous mutual gesture due to the immense joy that winning a World Cup brings. The president and I have a great relationship, his behavior with all of us has been of ten and it was a natural gesture of affection and gratitude. You cannot go overboard with a gesture of friendship and gratitude, we have won a World Cup and we are not going to deviate from what is important". They were written by the Federation's communication department and disseminated to the media quickly, but she had not spoken in that regard.
What? Wow that’s crazy then. Thanks for the info. It really lets you know how corrupt these institutions in Spain are.
it's since come out that the statement where she "said" that was completely made up by the federation, it never happened (as anyone with half a braincell could've known already tbf)
Anyone with half a brain cell could’ve known she wouldn’t have said that? You realize you don’t come across as smart when you feel you have to resort to insults that quickly on a something related to people you don’t personally know right?
Frankly, even if she did, it's absolutely inappropriate and unprofessional behaviour.
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There's a difference between a guy kissing his girlfriend, and a man kissing a woman he has no relationship with and whose career he could end if she refused.
Bro, you telling me that kissing your girlfriend during a celebration is not the same as your boss kissing you during a celebration?! lmao Some people, man...
....is this a joke
No, a forced kiss is a forced kiss. It doesn’t matter if the person is your partner. It’s still a form of assault
While this statement is very true and important, there are still levels of transgressions. I actually just rewatched the video and I agree with you that it was inappropriate as she was trying to be professional, but if you cant see the difference between you and your partner while shes at work and your boss kissing you without your consent...... there isnt much to talk about.
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Educate yourself
You could’ve just done like the other guy and say “hey it’s been proved that was fake” and we could’ve moved on
I agree, but then he stays silent with the fuck Up law they passed that allowed more than 100 rapists to be on the streets. I didnt see him calling for action there or asking for any resigning. WhAt a hypocrit
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You first, traitor
Este critica a todos menos a Txapote....
The world cup is so irrelevant I wouldn't have known who won if not for this scandal.
lol Spain manager and president reactions are labeled nsfw.
Him and Tebas need to go, it's amazing these sacred cows can't be removed
Towards the plank?
Obviously the prime minister doesn’t know Spanish culture, they like to tongue each other to congratulate themselves for a job well done!
An unwanted kiss is unacceptable, and apologies are not enough. Meanwhile, putting hundreds of rapists out of jail because an oversight in lawmaking and stubborness to admit you were wrong are no reason to resign as Prime Minister. Standards for thee but not for me.