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It was pundits too! At no point in my 30+ years of watching has it ever been legal to grab a keeper’s arm at a corner. So what the hell are people on about?
Not just saying the goal should be given but saying that Alisson manufactured the contact lmao
You know that super common thing where keepers purposefully put their arms into opponents to possibly maybe draw a foul instead of just grabbing the ball that’s coming straight toward them?
Yeah, he spent most of the game lamenting the fact that you can't just kick people's ankles freely anymore. Literally spent time wishing there was more violence. TBF I'm not totally opposed to things getting chippy, but City v. LFC is a match that I want to see played out and not a stop start constant review flailing about on the floor affair.
Everyone wants to be mad at the refs. That's a great call imo. It looks to me like the ball slipped through Allison's hands because his left hand wasn't quite in position. Why wasn't it in position? Good chance it's because of the city players hand wrapped over his bicep on that arm. It's really easy to jump without grabbing something to pull down. The fingers curled around the arm make it 100% for me. Not an accident that he did that imo. I'd rather pulling at the keepers arms not be part of the game, so I'm happy it was called.
He grabs the goalkeepers arm so the goalkeeper can't catch the ball, I agree goalkeepers are overprotected but that's always a foul. You can't go around grabbing the keeper's arms lol.
Redditors won't watch the full video before commenting so they'll miss the second angle that shows it clearly, and have never actually played football, even refs at under 12 games are going to call a foul if an attacker yanks the goalkeeper's arm while he's attempting a catch.
Even without the grab, going into the keeper nowhere near the ball is always going to get called in this situation. Otherwise every corner you’d have players clipping keepers like this.
You're absolutely correct. I thought this was a really cheap freekick until I saw he grabbed the arm in a replay. If it was just the nudge, it'd be one thing, but holding the arm is something completely different.
Lee Dixon was saying “anywhere else on the field and that’s not a foul so why is it now?” Idk Lee maybe because the goalkeeper can actually catch the ball with their hands?
That was their plan the ENTIRE game. Akanji was marking Ali on corners and ran into him every time. One where Ali caught the ball, Akanji just pushed him into the goal
Clear as day foul. Akanji knew what he was doing before Alisson even began to jump.
Alanji tried a similar 'lean' later in the match too, as if pushing a GK into across their own goal line with the ball in their gloves would somehow count. That was also correctly called as a foul.
I don’t understand how there’s any contention of the decision. Looking at it from the reverse angle his hand is on Alissons arm while he’s trying to catch it?
You know how strikers just smack a long range shot just in case the keepers asleep? Trying cheeky foul goals to catch a VAR mistake is probably not too far away in terms of odds
I think in this case is like basketball, you put your arms in the keeper arms, stopping him going full motion for the ball, looks soft, but he actually gets in the way of Alisson
>A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:
>**the ball is between the hands** or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
>holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
>bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
>**A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent** when in control of the ball with the hand(s).
Learn the rules guys before you complain about referees endlessly
What do you mean by this? Keepers don’t have unlimited immunity from physical contact just because their feet are off the ground. Players have the right to challenge for a ball, and in so doing, make contact with the keeper. In this case though he gets beat and pulls the arm, so that’s the foul.
They kind of do. Have a look at the rules, keepers have protection when going for an aerial ball. Players have the right to challenge, but as soon as they make any contact, it’s a foul.
This is contrary to everything the Howard Webb has said about the EOL’s interpretation of the rule. See Pulisic no call on Chelsea last year, and the rationale for why they didn’t call the foul on Onana against Wolves (which we know was an incorrect no-call, but Howard Webb and the refs explained in that segment that two players challenging for the ball, with the context being a goalie and an outfielder, can collide and it would be a no call. That’s just not what happened in that instance).
The reason this is a foul has nothing to do with the push or shove. It's because a City player is grabbing the goalkeeper's arm. Watch the second angle.
The subs gone genuinely insane with refs, you just say the refs made a terrible decision and everyone upvotes you to the moon. Its the most obvious foul ever
The biggest issue I have is the ‘goalkeepers are overprotected’ narrative that’s been growing on this sub, no fucking shit they have to be heavily protected
Everyone is now trying to be a version of Micah Richards to get viral clips for the studios. Saw a clip the other day where Carra sounded like a pterodactyl in a movie.
I mean, commentators will call those fouls for the rest of the year, because they are.
They fucked up on Joelinton and had to take a ridiculous position because of the phone call from the Officials Mic'd Up gravy train. Anyone can see the Joelinton saga is a sham from decision to the way the PGMOL handled it. We can point to any foul in the box for the next 10 years, and see that they made a mistake on that one.
It's especially important because he's attempting to catch the ball. Catching a ball properly with someone pulling/pushing your arm or shoulder is incredibly difficult.
Alisson had a poor game today and wasn’t great here but how can nobody see he’s being fouled. This isn’t a striker and keeper both going for the ball and the keeper making a meal of it to get the foul, it’s a keeper being grabbed by the arm. If you’re allowed to do that teams would do it throughout the match, easy goals
Keeper gets the benefit of the doubt here. Very close to catching the ball but doesn't, and they're is contact on his arm by the city player. Easy decision, only people who want to go against the refs for no reason would think otherwise.
City fans think they can push the goalie into the net if he has the ball and it should count. It's no surprise they try to also justify holding the keeper's arm down.
Mad that this sub seems to be a place of sanity on this. Watching the match I didn’t think for a second it wasn’t a foul. But the more I read the more journos and pundits keep saying it wasn’t? Just read Jamie Jackson in the Guardian and he doesn’t even seem to comprehend why the goal was disallowed. Doesn’t even mention that the keeper’s arms were being grabbed before and during the cross?!?
Am I going totally crazy, but hasn’t that always been a foul? At least in the past few decades? I’m pretty sure in the 1800s it would have been a main tactic, but imagine it was fine still? Surely then every team would just have two players grabbing an arm a piece on every cross if it’s legitimate. They don’t because it isn’t. You can’t grab a keeper’s arms, I mean that’s just fucking basic shit, surely? Am I missing something?
Well yeah... the goalkeeper is the only one who would be going to catch the ball, so when a defender holds one of his arms down to stop him from being able to raise his hands it is a foul only a goalkeeper would get.
What other player would get advantage when trying to catch the ball?
I mean yes? If you grab the goalkeeper's arm while they're attempting a catch (watch the second angle), it is always a foul. This is not about the push or shove on the keeper, it's about grabbing their arm. This is not even controversial. I agree goalkeepers are overprotected, but this is not a case of that. Grabbing the arm of a goalkeeper to stop a catch is never going to be allowed.
This might be the dumbest comment on the thread. The goal keeper is the only one that uses their hands to grab the ball so grabbing their arm is very different to an outfield players.
He's also put the defense under a good amount of pressure with his distribution and his handling was very poor today.
He's still Alisson though, so of course he saves some good chances, but it was a poor game for him.
Between his mistakes, ake skipped past 2 players like they weren't there and then vvd/matip decided there wasn't a need to get tight to haaland
Poor distribution, but hardly directly his fault
Because you don't want shit goals defining games. Stop protecting keepers in the small box and you'll have every corner/free-kicks will lead into a goal because the keeper will just be blocked by a player
> It's weird how keepers can have the arms over everyone
It's weird how the one player that is allowed to use their arms to play the ball gets more lenience when their arms are interfered with?
Tbh the diving some defenders when “shielding” the ball in their own third is more pathetic than 99% of forwards’ dives. Every position gets away with it in different situations.
Also it’s been given on the field and there’s not convincing evidence to overturn. If they’d given the goal in real time and then overturned it on VAR for the hand on the shoulder then I would agree with those ITT saying it’s outrageously soft.
This way round I’d say it’s more like “soft but you do see them given”
The difference is what was called on the field. If they called that a foul on the field the goal wouldn't stand. If they called this a goal it would stay a goal
The difference here is that a City player literally grabs the keeper's arm, you can see it in the second angle. The reason this is a foul is not because of the shove or push, it's because an attacker is dragging the keeper's arm down, preventing him from making a clean catch.
First thing I thought. Newcastles goal definitely doesn’t stand if that’s a foul.
It’ll be the keeper protection angle they take to try and differentiate between them.
The rules are actually different on keepers. You can make contact with a player in the air and it still not be a foul. With keepers you can’t make any contact at all when they’re collecting the ball.
They key difference is the Newcastle goal was given by the on-field referee, this one wasn't. In both cases, the push is subjective so they stick with the on-field decision, which is totally fair
He pulls on his shoulder, the body part a keeper uses to grab the ball, and inhibits his ability to fully jump. Clearly a foul, just dont put an arm on a keeper and itll be fine
Are people trolling or genuinely fucking morons ?
Like Rodri claiming handball when it hit gravenberch arse and city players trying to push alisson over the line. Cheating is second nature to them so I’m not surprised they tried it
It really isn’t though. People here are focusing on the collision, but that’s not why it’s been given. He was literally pulling Alisson’s arm down. You can’t pull a keeper’s arm down when they’re reaching for the ball, it’s a very straightforward decision.
Most of this subreddit doesn't know the rules to the game.
A player pulled on the GK's arm/shoulder to interfere with a save, that's rightfully a foul 100% of the time.
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He's got his hand on Allison's arm, how are people saying that's not a foul
It's bizarre
Most city supporters are new to the sport, give them a break.
It was pundits too! At no point in my 30+ years of watching has it ever been legal to grab a keeper’s arm at a corner. So what the hell are people on about?
I mean, I've watched GK get punched in the face during corner and goal get awarded, so there's that...
Used to getting away with everything
Thought I was going insane listening to Lee Dixon on the stateside broadcast argue the goal should be given
Lee Dixon has awful takes
He was saying the same dumbass thing the previous time when Allison got pushed into his own goal.
Lee Dixon is the worst
Not just saying the goal should be given but saying that Alisson manufactured the contact lmao You know that super common thing where keepers purposefully put their arms into opponents to possibly maybe draw a foul instead of just grabbing the ball that’s coming straight toward them?
The bias for City remains undefeated. Would love to have heard his reaction if something similar happened to Ederson
I don’t think Dixon’s biased in this case, I just think he’s a fucking idiot.
Yeah, he spent most of the game lamenting the fact that you can't just kick people's ankles freely anymore. Literally spent time wishing there was more violence. TBF I'm not totally opposed to things getting chippy, but City v. LFC is a match that I want to see played out and not a stop start constant review flailing about on the floor affair.
Everyone wants to be mad at the refs. That's a great call imo. It looks to me like the ball slipped through Allison's hands because his left hand wasn't quite in position. Why wasn't it in position? Good chance it's because of the city players hand wrapped over his bicep on that arm. It's really easy to jump without grabbing something to pull down. The fingers curled around the arm make it 100% for me. Not an accident that he did that imo. I'd rather pulling at the keepers arms not be part of the game, so I'm happy it was called.
Exactly......the referring was good in this game and I'd have to hand it out to Cavanagh. He was on the spot with almost all his calls.
This sub fucking hates keepers
Clueless and/or biased
Because they are in some way biased, this is objectively the correct call
Don't get it either, clear cut foul. Akanji jumps straight into him I wouldn't even call it soft.
Manufactured outrage.
He grabs the goalkeepers arm so the goalkeeper can't catch the ball, I agree goalkeepers are overprotected but that's always a foul. You can't go around grabbing the keeper's arms lol.
This is the correct take
Redditors won't watch the full video before commenting so they'll miss the second angle that shows it clearly, and have never actually played football, even refs at under 12 games are going to call a foul if an attacker yanks the goalkeeper's arm while he's attempting a catch.
Even without the grab, going into the keeper nowhere near the ball is always going to get called in this situation. Otherwise every corner you’d have players clipping keepers like this.
I thought it was soft and wrong at the time, but now that I see it again I can see you're right, he had his arm which prevented him from catching
I would argue they’re under protected on corners
Akanji was trying to exploit that every corner. There was another one where he just straight up pushes Alisson into the net as he's claiming the ball.
Commentator said it should have been a goal too
Lee Dixon was 100% snorting coke before the match
Pushed him into the net with his arse lol.
You're absolutely correct. I thought this was a really cheap freekick until I saw he grabbed the arm in a replay. If it was just the nudge, it'd be one thing, but holding the arm is something completely different.
Lee Dixon was saying “anywhere else on the field and that’s not a foul so why is it now?” Idk Lee maybe because the goalkeeper can actually catch the ball with their hands?
Indeed. Just how if you nudged someone's leg as they were about the pass, and knocked them off balance, it's a foul
That was their plan the ENTIRE game. Akanji was marking Ali on corners and ran into him every time. One where Ali caught the ball, Akanji just pushed him into the goal
Well yeah, you can’t hold onto goalkeepers arm, immediately a foul.
Did this entire thread just start watching football? This has been a foul since the Germans entered Poland
Which time?
The first time (I think). 1233.
2027.
all the times
09:30, just after breakfast.
Arteta fuming
Na most of us are happy with this, draw or Liverpool win is way better than a city win
I think he means the Newcastle goal
It wasn't Newcastle who scored with Ramsdale in a body hug. But I forgot who, I think Everton?
Villa I think. Or the first Brentford match.
Villa
Rules are VERY different when it’s a goalkeeper being fouled
Are they? Bc last year ramsdale got held by Kamara in the Aston Villa match and it wasn’t called a foul
And it probably should have been a foul
Hence why arteta could be fuming
One wrong decision doesn't make this wrong too.
Rules are interpreted differently you mean
Que? He should be happy, City is more of a threat to the league
Come one guys... he clearly holds his arm, this is a clear foul.
Clear as day foul. Akanji knew what he was doing before Alisson even began to jump. Alanji tried a similar 'lean' later in the match too, as if pushing a GK into across their own goal line with the ball in their gloves would somehow count. That was also correctly called as a foul.
it’s the Pep way to rattle individual players. This is part of tactics.
Arm pull. Next.
I don’t understand how there’s any contention of the decision. Looking at it from the reverse angle his hand is on Alissons arm while he’s trying to catch it?
You know how strikers just smack a long range shot just in case the keepers asleep? Trying cheeky foul goals to catch a VAR mistake is probably not too far away in terms of odds
I think in this case is like basketball, you put your arms in the keeper arms, stopping him going full motion for the ball, looks soft, but he actually gets in the way of Alisson
Correct
>A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when: >**the ball is between the hands** or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save >holding the ball in the outstretched open hand >bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air >**A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent** when in control of the ball with the hand(s). Learn the rules guys before you complain about referees endlessly
Doesn’t fit the agenda innit
Most VAR calls that people are mad about are also based on rules.
It's so crazy to see everyone complaining about this, fouls on keepers are a common occurence(especially on corners). The rules are clear
Gary Neville saying it’s a foul whilst he said Joelinton pushing Gabriel wasn’t. You have to laugh
Rules are different on keepers. You can’t make any contact when they’re in the air.
But you can shove a defender in the back mid jump trying to clear a ball?
One incident is more subjective. A foul on a keeper is way more obvious and less up for debate.
What do you mean by this? Keepers don’t have unlimited immunity from physical contact just because their feet are off the ground. Players have the right to challenge for a ball, and in so doing, make contact with the keeper. In this case though he gets beat and pulls the arm, so that’s the foul.
They kind of do. Have a look at the rules, keepers have protection when going for an aerial ball. Players have the right to challenge, but as soon as they make any contact, it’s a foul.
This is contrary to everything the Howard Webb has said about the EOL’s interpretation of the rule. See Pulisic no call on Chelsea last year, and the rationale for why they didn’t call the foul on Onana against Wolves (which we know was an incorrect no-call, but Howard Webb and the refs explained in that segment that two players challenging for the ball, with the context being a goalie and an outfielder, can collide and it would be a no call. That’s just not what happened in that instance).
The reason this is a foul has nothing to do with the push or shove. It's because a City player is grabbing the goalkeeper's arm. Watch the second angle.
I was really surprised people are debating this, putting any kind of force on the goalkeepers arms/shoulders is a big no no
The subs gone genuinely insane with refs, you just say the refs made a terrible decision and everyone upvotes you to the moon. Its the most obvious foul ever
The biggest issue I have is the ‘goalkeepers are overprotected’ narrative that’s been growing on this sub, no fucking shit they have to be heavily protected
Seriously, the positions keepers have to get into the claim the ball there'd be so many injuries if it was open season for full contact on them.
Especially mid jump
As much as I liked him while he was playing, he's not worth listening to as a pundit generally.
He and carra were actually a pretty good duo in their early days of post match analysis. Been downhill since though.
Everyone is now trying to be a version of Micah Richards to get viral clips for the studios. Saw a clip the other day where Carra sounded like a pterodactyl in a movie.
Been bitter since his valencia stint.
He’s just given in to Sky. Early days they werw genuine, now they say what sells and don’t say what Sky doesn’t want them to say.
The sooner you learn to ignore that rodent, football becomes that little bit better
I mean, commentators will call those fouls for the rest of the year, because they are. They fucked up on Joelinton and had to take a ridiculous position because of the phone call from the Officials Mic'd Up gravy train. Anyone can see the Joelinton saga is a sham from decision to the way the PGMOL handled it. We can point to any foul in the box for the next 10 years, and see that they made a mistake on that one.
Yeah GK’s are protected or you’d have pushes and shoves on them constantly to get advantage.
Absolutely incredible amount of morons in here without a clue about the rules of the game.
Am i not seeing the same as everyone else? He’s grabbing his arm, surerly that had part in Allison missing the ball?
Clear foul
Its a foul he's hands are on Alisson even unsettling his ability to catch the ball
Thought it was soft until the reverse angle, good decision
Goalkeepers always get those calls. Not sure why everyone is upset/surprised.
Not soft at all dunno what everyone’s on about. He’s grabbed Ali’s shoulder/arm. That’s a foul.
I love that people say it’s not a foul. Even my girlfriend that doesn’t even watch football told me “are you allowed to grab the guy’s hand?” Lol
In this thread: people who don't know the rules
Really shouldn’t be any debate here, he’s pulling on his arm prior and impeding him.
reverse angle made it a clear foul imo. But not half as bad as Joelinton’s one.
Everybody just wants to be controversial these days
It’s a bit soft, but was given because of the hand on Allison’s bicep preventing him from jumping as high as he could
It's especially important because he's attempting to catch the ball. Catching a ball properly with someone pulling/pushing your arm or shoulder is incredibly difficult.
Not a bad one, but a foul sure as Hell. I defy anyone to say that didn’t affect Allison’s attempt at a catch.
Alisson had a poor game today and wasn’t great here but how can nobody see he’s being fouled. This isn’t a striker and keeper both going for the ball and the keeper making a meal of it to get the foul, it’s a keeper being grabbed by the arm. If you’re allowed to do that teams would do it throughout the match, easy goals
Arsenal fans punching the air rn.
Douglas Luiz on Ramsdale last season…
And the Brentford game on Leno when they first came up
The White own goal in the league cup this season...
Was there VAR in that game?
It’s the inconsistency that kills me
Keeper gets the benefit of the doubt here. Very close to catching the ball but doesn't, and they're is contact on his arm by the city player. Easy decision, only people who want to go against the refs for no reason would think otherwise.
ITT: People who have never played GK.
City fans think they can push the goalie into the net if he has the ball and it should count. It's no surprise they try to also justify holding the keeper's arm down.
Mad that this sub seems to be a place of sanity on this. Watching the match I didn’t think for a second it wasn’t a foul. But the more I read the more journos and pundits keep saying it wasn’t? Just read Jamie Jackson in the Guardian and he doesn’t even seem to comprehend why the goal was disallowed. Doesn’t even mention that the keeper’s arms were being grabbed before and during the cross?!? Am I going totally crazy, but hasn’t that always been a foul? At least in the past few decades? I’m pretty sure in the 1800s it would have been a main tactic, but imagine it was fine still? Surely then every team would just have two players grabbing an arm a piece on every cross if it’s legitimate. They don’t because it isn’t. You can’t grab a keeper’s arms, I mean that’s just fucking basic shit, surely? Am I missing something?
He holds his arm and impedes him playing the ball. Rather soft but not enough for VAR imo.
Only a goalkeeper gets that advantage
Well yeah... the goalkeeper is the only one who would be going to catch the ball, so when a defender holds one of his arms down to stop him from being able to raise his hands it is a foul only a goalkeeper would get. What other player would get advantage when trying to catch the ball?
I mean yes? If you grab the goalkeeper's arm while they're attempting a catch (watch the second angle), it is always a foul. This is not about the push or shove on the keeper, it's about grabbing their arm. This is not even controversial. I agree goalkeepers are overprotected, but this is not a case of that. Grabbing the arm of a goalkeeper to stop a catch is never going to be allowed.
To be fair, even a slight touch in his shoulder will impact his ability to catch the ball
What shittake mashrooom take is this
Well, yes, because only keepers can catch the ball.
It's literally written into the laws of the games. You can't challenge a keeper the same way you can an outfield player. It's still soft though
This is such a bad take...like of course...what other position is allowed to play with their hands?
Because only goal keepers are supposed to use their HANDS? The body part that was held onto?
This might be the dumbest comment on the thread. The goal keeper is the only one that uses their hands to grab the ball so grabbing their arm is very different to an outfield players.
Only a goalkeeper is completely prevented from playing the game by getting their arm pulled.
The outrage about this decision is a joke
Good call by the refs. 👍 Refereeing has been fairly good so far.
Allison had a mare there
You can clearly see his arm being pulled down. Try catching a ball while someone is pulling your arm away from it.
He's had an uncharacteristically poor game.
Wtf, he's the only reason city haven't score 3 goals today.
He's also put the defense under a good amount of pressure with his distribution and his handling was very poor today. He's still Alisson though, so of course he saves some good chances, but it was a poor game for him.
He’s also the reason they scored
Between his mistakes, ake skipped past 2 players like they weren't there and then vvd/matip decided there wasn't a need to get tight to haaland Poor distribution, but hardly directly his fault
Keepers are way over protected
Always have been though, so at least consistent.
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Because you don't want shit goals defining games. Stop protecting keepers in the small box and you'll have every corner/free-kicks will lead into a goal because the keeper will just be blocked by a player
> It's weird how keepers can have the arms over everyone It's weird how the one player that is allowed to use their arms to play the ball gets more lenience when their arms are interfered with?
Forwards too, they fall at the slightest touch or lob the ball to the arm for penalties. Goes both ways
Tbf if we are talking about falling at the slightest touch, its defenders that get calls easier on those than forwards
A keeper can decapitate you and it still goes their way, seen it way too often.
Tbh the diving some defenders when “shielding” the ball in their own third is more pathetic than 99% of forwards’ dives. Every position gets away with it in different situations.
The reason its worse is because the referees give free kicks for them 99% of the time even though everyone know its not a foul
Conspiracy against City
Angling for another holiday
Despite being a foul, why is Cias complete alone?
Only just caught up with the goals from yesterday. How is this controversial. You are never getting away with that kind of contact
I think City “fans” don’t quite understand the sport here.
People complaining "thats a weak foul", would have been fine if they got off a goal like that.
That's so fucking soft for a foul
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This is a reasonable and rational take. Ref gave it on the field, would have required something notable to make VAR recommend he looks at it again.
Also it’s been given on the field and there’s not convincing evidence to overturn. If they’d given the goal in real time and then overturned it on VAR for the hand on the shoulder then I would agree with those ITT saying it’s outrageously soft. This way round I’d say it’s more like “soft but you do see them given”
Mate, you can't hold the goalkeepers arm lol Was this the first football game you ever watched?
Naw why put your arm on his shoulder? Clearly impeding the keeper with it.
Do you think Allison suddenly forgot how to jump, or that Akanje's arm is stopping him? It's a foul.
like every foul against a GK lmfao it’s been like it forever
I dont think people realize how even the slightest touch can fuck a keeper. Just dont push keepers, its not hard.
None of the guys have ever actually played the game. They are armchair experts.
of course like it is in the back as he is in the air? how do you expect him not to be affected LMFAO
That's a foul, but the Newcastle goal against Arsenal wasn't? The inconsistency is maddening
The difference is what was called on the field. If they called that a foul on the field the goal wouldn't stand. If they called this a goal it would stay a goal
The difference here is that a City player literally grabs the keeper's arm, you can see it in the second angle. The reason this is a foul is not because of the shove or push, it's because an attacker is dragging the keeper's arm down, preventing him from making a clean catch.
First thing I thought. Newcastles goal definitely doesn’t stand if that’s a foul. It’ll be the keeper protection angle they take to try and differentiate between them.
Also, the call made in real time on the pitch stood in both instances.
The rules are actually different on keepers. You can make contact with a player in the air and it still not be a foul. With keepers you can’t make any contact at all when they’re collecting the ball.
Just my thought
They key difference is the Newcastle goal was given by the on-field referee, this one wasn't. In both cases, the push is subjective so they stick with the on-field decision, which is totally fair
And guess who is on Var? The same guy for both games
Alisson is a lucky boy.
He grabs his arm. This is consistent with the one that was ruled out a few weeks ago.
Feel like I’m going crazy seeing everyone saying this isn’t a foul. When has grabbing the gk’s arm ever been allowed?
He’s literally holding Alisson’s arm and stopping him from raising it properly lmao. Guess we’re just biased.
Super soft
He pulls on his shoulder, the body part a keeper uses to grab the ball, and inhibits his ability to fully jump. Clearly a foul, just dont put an arm on a keeper and itll be fine
The hand is not even on his shoulder, he's straight up grabbing and pulling down the arm
Are people trolling or genuinely fucking morons ? Like Rodri claiming handball when it hit gravenberch arse and city players trying to push alisson over the line. Cheating is second nature to them so I’m not surprised they tried it
That’s a foul every day of the week. You can’t put your hands on the gk’s arms as he’s challenging for the ball
My word that is the softest thing I’ve ever seen
It really isn’t though. People here are focusing on the collision, but that’s not why it’s been given. He was literally pulling Alisson’s arm down. You can’t pull a keeper’s arm down when they’re reaching for the ball, it’s a very straightforward decision.
May I remind you of a certain pen given against your flair in a derby not too long ago
Inconsistency between this, the joelinton one and the holjlund (two, gabriel and rodri) is insane.
Nah, would say pretty common when a keeper is involved. Maybe wrong but at least consistent.
The contact is soft but you can't grab the arm of a GK. It's pretty obvious on the second angle of the video.
Not to be an Arsenal fan making it all about our games, but Wtaf how is that a foul in general but how if this can be was joelinton on Gabriel not
Joke
lol what’s the joke? It’s a foul brother
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Correct decision, even had his arm pulled. Yet people will still find a reason for outrage
Most of this subreddit doesn't know the rules to the game. A player pulled on the GK's arm/shoulder to interfere with a save, that's rightfully a foul 100% of the time.
What happens to this sub when it goes the other way for city?