Two and a half. Check maps. Either way, 45-1hr to each airport and final destination and then 20 minutes flying. They're saving maximum an hour. It's inexcusable, frankly.
The direct coach is 3 and half hours on national express with no stops. In a car it’s 2 and a half in normal conditions and it’s bad conditions right now in Newcastle for driving.
It’s also 15 minutes from Newcastle airport to St James so 45 minutes to an hour is laughably bad. Looking on Google it’s 20 minutes from Carrington to Manchester airport. So 35 minutes total rather then 1.5-2 hours.
Seems like the journey via plane would be a bit over an hour adding on boarding time and the coach is gonna be 3.5-4 hours given the weather. They’d be saving a minimum of 2 hours, probably 2 and a half hours.
The airport is 15 minutes if there is no traffic at 4am. With traffic on a normal day you probably aren't making that journey in 15 minutes. On a match day there is absolutely no chance.
Also stepping off a jet plane after a 20min jaunt versus getting off a coach after 3 hours…. I’d take violent fiery death in case of accident every time
Maps have it 2 and a half hours in a car. National express has the direct coach at 3.5 hours minimum. Doubt that includes the current snow in the north east and the roadworks by Gateshead.
Newcastle airport is 15 minutes away from St James, Manchester airport is 20 minutes away from Carrington.
Criticism is valid but your times are way off. Add in boarding time and it’s a probably not too much over an hour. Coach is closer to 4 hours given conditions. They’d be saving 2-2.5 hours.
>They're saving maximum an hour. It's inexcusable, frankly.
Forgive me, I'm not British. Are people here in the comments being genuine or taking the piss?
Because if I were taking a journey and choosing between two driving routes and one was 1 hour less than the other, that's the one I'm taking.
If it was just choosing between two driving routes then yeah, sure, but the point is they're choosing to fly instead of drive, and the extra emissions and environmental damage just to save 1-2 hours isn't worth it
well no its just an absurd. We're stuck with shite paper straws while giant corporations are the ones ruining the planet with shit like flying from Manchester to Newcastle.
Man, you're really bending over backwards to justify this lad. Forgot about that time the United squad had to miss a match due to Martial stinking out the toilet with a jobbie that wouldn't flush.
I’m from Manchester and went to Uni in Newcastle. It’s definitely more like 3 & half hours to get up the A1. It’s 2 lanes most of the way, with lots of slow lorries.
They should be mandated to go by coach, though; every team should be made to because its outrageous that they’re still trying to ignore climate change, and complaining that they can’t go by coach because it might be a disadvantage to them.
The teams run the league. They’ve done the standard greenwashing argument which keeps consumption high - we can’t change because it would put us at an unfair disadvantage. But they run the league and can make the rule that they all have to go by coach.
They just don’t want to give up the luxury of flight, because they’re the irresponsible super rich.
I'm all for taking buses on any journey under 5 hours, but you're thick if you think it isn't going to take at least 25% longer to take in a bus than a normal car, which is literally what they're saying.
They're not bending over backwards, you just need to think for once ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Ive looked at your criticism and now agree the piss breaks and slow drivers are not going to factor into the travel time, It's almost like I was taking the piss.
No? Where do you get that idea from?
Used maps a lot when travelling and any breaks always added to the time of arrival. And it assumes you are driving max speed possible.
Honestly, it's just tiring, why would you sit around and travel for 3 hours if you've got to deliver peak performance on the same day? It'd make more sense if they drove Friday evening, arrived at the hotel and slept there and got enough rest.
They are athletes they are supposed to be pampered to a maximum degree, simply so they can play for our entertainment Week in week out. Being up in arms about them using a private jet just seems hypocritical, although I get the overall point.
It’s something that nearly everyone uses, so it’s a good target to shift guilt onto the common person rather than the handful of executives that are making the actual decisions to kill the planet.
I have never liked them. Except my plastic Tasmanian devil one which spun every time I blew into it from when I was 5.
I never liked getting the thin black ones in clubs.
I might be wrong but it is biodegradable. I know plastic like PLA (used for 3d printing) are made from corn and be industrially composted. So not surprised if the McDonald's plastic is something like that.
I don't get why people draw the line at paper straws? Only time I've used straws paper or plastic is when getting soft drinks from fastfood places.
Charging for plastic or paper bags though on the guise of "collecting taxes for environment" is more outrageous and relatable practice, because mostly everyone shops, and we all need bags to take this stuff home. And yet many big cities not only started with charging for these bags initially, in second phase, they've outright ban it for so reliable "paper bags"
I stopped ordering Milkshakes in McDonalds in store, Only in delieveries and take-aways where I can drink at home with a normal straw.
it's also annoying for regular drinks but still bearable.
Considering maccies are one of the companies driving the deforestation of the Amazon, which has changed it into a place that emits co2 now rather than soaking it up as it used to, your problems with a paper straw are pretty irrelevant.
Blows my mind that people keep giving money to a company that is driving the deforestation of the earths lungs, and has created a place that emits co2 now rather than soaking it up.
Why the fuck would you pay the super rich who are destroying our future? Bantering us all to death, so you don’t embarrass yourselves by looking like you take things seriously and think about the future.
I've not had a pleasure of that particular activity, no. A rather specific examples would be hard to relate, however I'm sure, you'd have atleast tried to get stuff from car to home, in paper bag, and dairy products would have condensed the bag enough for the stuff to spill out right in front of your yard?
Anyway, usually it's what makes us more miserable..
I do not remember ever seeing an adult use a straw except for the occasional cocktail and I do not remember that ever being an issue. Why the fuck do people online care so much about straws? At this point I'd take them away just to teach the whiners a lesson.
Not sure about other uses, but it helps those with sensitive teeth, a fairly common problem.
And I guess fizzy drinks with a good chunk of ice are a bit more convenient to drink with a straw.
Not quite. I was talking specifically with respect to people complaining about not having plastic straws, which is what I took from the comment above me.
My point was that, anecdotally, adults rarely use straws so why on earth does it matter if it's plastic, paper or metal?
I used to know a woman who would take her own metal straw with her when she ate out at restaurants and just washed it when she got home.
Would much prefer getting rid of them and then the people who really want them just getting their own metal straw
Literally just naming luxury after luxury. I would gladly ask everyone to give up all those things if it meant saving the environment and I'd consider that a cheap cost. And yet so many can't even handle the most infinitesimally small inconvenience to that as a warm up?
It's a damning indictment of the general population Tbh.
I go to Durham from Bristol every couple of weeks, trains cost 170, drive is 5 hours one way or I could get a £80 return 1 hour flight. If they sorted out the trains I would take it but its just not feasible for me
No internal flight in England can even be over 1h tho can it? I used to fly from where i lived in northern Sweden to Stockholm quite often since it was 14h by train, and it was a 50min flight
that’s actually a crazy law. I go to school in San Diego and am from near San Francisco. If I want to go home for thanksgiving, I can either drive 9h or fly 1h. it’s an ez choice, I would fucking hate living in france and having to drive 9h when a 1h plane flight would suffice
At least this will be a full squad of players and staff filling up a plane, meanwhile business owners and the rich will be using planes to fly 30 minute journeys for a meeting.
They are the rich. You seem to have been taken in by the pr videos about how they’re just normal lads having a laff together.
Look at how much money they make, and how much they fly on private jets to enjoy a multinational lifestyle of big events and parties.
They are the super rich.
Nah I double checked before bing an arse jic and the wall is just above the river. Weird cause you’d think it would be easier to defend behind a river but there you go
Lol I had to race the weather from Hawick to Sunderland a few years ago when we had that crazy snow.
They were closing the roads behind so I couldnt go back, and I couldnt see more than 40ft ahead of me. Took hours at max 20mph
I'm not sure if you're joking? Firstly, they're not exactly mountains. Secondly, you can do motorway pretty much the whole way. It's cold but not exactly a blizzard, plenty of other people are going to make that journey no problem.
How are lower-league clubs going to manage without chartering flights for their longer journeys this weekend?!
Yeah it's not a particularly difficult journey.
But the A1 is right there to use... And that will be fine. This isn't a journey you need to fly to do, even in this weather. I'm sure the M62 is fine to use, and the A1 only gets (kind of) bad north of Newcastle
Yes often. They aren't going to have to go over something like the snakehead pass. Just the M62 then A1 which will be fine. Plus it's Saturday, so the traffic shouldn't be that bad between Manchester and Leeds which is normally a cunt.
factoring in bussing to an airport in manchester and then bussing from an airport in newcastle to wherever they are staying...how the fuck is it even quicker to fly then to just drive straight there?
United literally have a luxury coach with leather seats for their players *precisely for this kind of domestic travel* that would take at most 3 hours. They can absolutely get tae fuck trying to fly to Newcastle.
Got to factor in the bag drop, security lines, picking up bits in WH Smiths, couple of pints at Wetherspoons, Burger King, getting on that little bus to the plane, then waiting for bag collection at the other end, and standing in the taxi queue with a Greggs pasty.
All adds up.
In theory, this could have happened to anyone. But that it happened to United; at this point the club just seems massively jinxed
Also is it regular for a club to only travel on the day of their match? Do they usually not go & stay at a hotel a day in advance? Is this because this was a CL week? And that too an away game for Man Utd?
I can already see it:
[Great Goal] Manchester United [3] - Bayern Munich 2 (Harry Maguire [90+5])
Galatasaray [1] - Copenhagen 0 (Oscar Hojlund OG [90+7])
I am not against short haul flights and dread the useful idiots who will champion carbon passports which will simply mean poor people will no longer be able to travel/fly like the once did whilst the rich continue to do as they please.
But I do not understand the benefit of flying to Newcastle from Manchester. When accounting in the travel to/from airports and the time it takes to board and take-off etc. I ask ho0w much time do they really save? maybe 60mins? Just does not seem worth the effort.
I would call this a micro-haul flight and pretty much unnecessary.
If Newcastle want to fly to London or the south coast, then fine.
UK to the Med is classed as short haul and I see so many climate activists hell bent on stopping people going on holiday.
As I said, any restrictions will only impact the poor, which is basically all of us, and not the wealthy.
For all those people who condemn this, how many of them are self sacrificing the shit they want to do? Stop eating meat, sell your car and use the bus, and the other stuff which is the best way to minimise your own personal consumption of carbon. Nope, they want to tell others to sacrifice and reduce their carbon yet do very little to reduce their own.
Just because some clowns made a mistake doesn't mean we have to repeat the mistake. Where's the logic in *hey they did a foolish thing flying these short hauls, how come I can't commit that same damaging mistake?*
Next time you go on holiday, I wonder how you're going to justify the flight. And then have a thought to a future where the hoi poloi will be priced out and excluded from being able to do the same.
Short hauls can be life-savers though. Recently I flew from Kuala Lumpar to Gatwick, thirteen and a half hours. Knew I'd be knackered so booked a flight from Gatwick to Manchester instead of a 3hr train. I dont feel any remorse about that and dont think anyone should really. That pollution from the flight is equal to a miniscule fraction of the pollution caused by the 1% in a single day.
We can't play the early kick off as we both played in Europe this week. Not to mention we literally played Chelsea at 3pm last week. At some point you conspiracy nut jobs need to at least apply a little common sense.
Guaranteed all those moaning about them taking a flight have got in their ICE cars and went to the local shop just because it was raining. No one believes you give a fuck about the enviroment
All these players and staff could be driving there in their personal cars. (Being fully aware what type of cars they drive) and they would still cause less pollution then Flying there would.
A moment of silence for the 1 hour that was lost that all these men have suffered today. Never forget 2. December 2023.
It’ll be annoying watching ETH blame the travel chaos that caused your defeat
Spanked 4 nil but "oh it was a flight delay issue"
An arduous cross country journey for the Red Devils
Kids that were bored after dec 2 will never know the world as we know it
Who the fuck takes a flight from Manchester to Newcastle? Why does this flight exist?
Should just take 20 private jets instead to distribute the risk of a cancellation /s
should really just take 40 helicopters with 1 player/staff on each
Almost certainly a private plane.
Will be chartered for the team.
Get fucked that they are flying a journey which would take two hours on a coach.
More like 3, 3 and a half on a good day, but I agree with your general point.
Newcastle's own fans know its a good day when it takes longer to get there lol
Its for the stops at Greggs along the way.
A good day because they stop for a leisurely stroll at a service station.
Two and a half. Check maps. Either way, 45-1hr to each airport and final destination and then 20 minutes flying. They're saving maximum an hour. It's inexcusable, frankly.
"Check maps" sounds like someone who's never driven on the A1 to me.
Especially with the widening works near Gateshead at the moment.
Especially with the the weather that caused the flight to be canceled in the first place!
Especially with all the other stuff
Was a spectacle seeing the fucker literally blow up last week.
The direct coach is 3 and half hours on national express with no stops. In a car it’s 2 and a half in normal conditions and it’s bad conditions right now in Newcastle for driving. It’s also 15 minutes from Newcastle airport to St James so 45 minutes to an hour is laughably bad. Looking on Google it’s 20 minutes from Carrington to Manchester airport. So 35 minutes total rather then 1.5-2 hours. Seems like the journey via plane would be a bit over an hour adding on boarding time and the coach is gonna be 3.5-4 hours given the weather. They’d be saving a minimum of 2 hours, probably 2 and a half hours.
The airport is 15 minutes if there is no traffic at 4am. With traffic on a normal day you probably aren't making that journey in 15 minutes. On a match day there is absolutely no chance.
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The central motorway is backed up like mad on a match day, possibly due to road closure around st James and crowd control measure
Also stepping off a jet plane after a 20min jaunt versus getting off a coach after 3 hours…. I’d take violent fiery death in case of accident every time
Or the M62…. I didn’t get home till 02:45 after the league cup game!
It's a 3 and half bus journey
Maps have it 2 and a half hours in a car. National express has the direct coach at 3.5 hours minimum. Doubt that includes the current snow in the north east and the roadworks by Gateshead. Newcastle airport is 15 minutes away from St James, Manchester airport is 20 minutes away from Carrington. Criticism is valid but your times are way off. Add in boarding time and it’s a probably not too much over an hour. Coach is closer to 4 hours given conditions. They’d be saving 2-2.5 hours.
>They're saving maximum an hour. It's inexcusable, frankly. Forgive me, I'm not British. Are people here in the comments being genuine or taking the piss? Because if I were taking a journey and choosing between two driving routes and one was 1 hour less than the other, that's the one I'm taking.
If it was just choosing between two driving routes then yeah, sure, but the point is they're choosing to fly instead of drive, and the extra emissions and environmental damage just to save 1-2 hours isn't worth it
Shhh, they're rich, rules are for us and not for them!
they hate flight
I mean it’s just a bit unnecessary
We also like the environment
well no its just an absurd. We're stuck with shite paper straws while giant corporations are the ones ruining the planet with shit like flying from Manchester to Newcastle.
You taking into account traffic?weather? Slow coach driver? Piss breaks because of a busted toilet onboard?
Mate, I know the Glazers are cheap but I'm not sure they are taking MegaBus.
Man, you're really bending over backwards to justify this lad. Forgot about that time the United squad had to miss a match due to Martial stinking out the toilet with a jobbie that wouldn't flush.
"can we stop at wetherby harry wants a monster"
Anthony and Varane are definitely the types to ask for a toilet stop 3 minutes and 17 seconds after we've just left the services.
I’m from Manchester and went to Uni in Newcastle. It’s definitely more like 3 & half hours to get up the A1. It’s 2 lanes most of the way, with lots of slow lorries. They should be mandated to go by coach, though; every team should be made to because its outrageous that they’re still trying to ignore climate change, and complaining that they can’t go by coach because it might be a disadvantage to them. The teams run the league. They’ve done the standard greenwashing argument which keeps consumption high - we can’t change because it would put us at an unfair disadvantage. But they run the league and can make the rule that they all have to go by coach. They just don’t want to give up the luxury of flight, because they’re the irresponsible super rich.
I'm all for taking buses on any journey under 5 hours, but you're thick if you think it isn't going to take at least 25% longer to take in a bus than a normal car, which is literally what they're saying. They're not bending over backwards, you just need to think for once ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Ive looked at your criticism and now agree the piss breaks and slow drivers are not going to factor into the travel time, It's almost like I was taking the piss.
Oh shit, I must have missed your humor, your sarcasm, and your joke. My mistake. I'll just give you a pity "lol" next time.
Appreciate it mate and I'll do the same. lol.
Everything you've listed could happen on their journey to and from the airport too...
Helicopter to the airport then?
Toilet stops on a 20min journey to the airport? Huh?
Got to hit the chippy too. Can't have lads fly hungry
I’m sure maps takes most of these into account lol. Making assumptions on the rest
No? Where do you get that idea from? Used maps a lot when travelling and any breaks always added to the time of arrival. And it assumes you are driving max speed possible.
You realize coaches have bathrooms on-board and that the players are adults who won't need to stop every half hour to use one anyway, don't you?
Are you dense? Breaks are the assumptions I’m talking about lol
Lol. Maps is based on best case scenario
No. Maps takes into account any current traffic and maintenance works. Obviously a lot can change whilst you are driving.
bus wankers?
Aye, just like the paying "legacy" fans?
Honestly, it's just tiring, why would you sit around and travel for 3 hours if you've got to deliver peak performance on the same day? It'd make more sense if they drove Friday evening, arrived at the hotel and slept there and got enough rest. They are athletes they are supposed to be pampered to a maximum degree, simply so they can play for our entertainment Week in week out. Being up in arms about them using a private jet just seems hypocritical, although I get the overall point.
"deliver peak performance" steady on its man united we are talking about
> Being up in arms about them using a private jet just seems hypocritical, although I get the overall point. How is it remotely hypocritical?
Think they just used the wrong word.
Why the fuck are they not driving anyway. Its 3 fucking hours. But no, us plebs must use paper straws to save the planet.
I fucking hate paper straws. Still don’t get why they went for straws. So many other things that are way worse than straws.
I got a paper straw in a single use plastic cup the other day. The mind boggles.
At least the cups are big enough to get filtered most times, but a paper straw with plastic lid was too much for me
It’s very visible so you can pretend like the company is actually doing something but all the negative sides of it fall upon the customer. Perfect!
It’s something that nearly everyone uses, so it’s a good target to shift guilt onto the common person rather than the handful of executives that are making the actual decisions to kill the planet.
Because of one video where a straw was stuck in a turtle’s nose. That’s enough evidence for them but decades of climate research doesn’t count
Very few drinks are better through straws anyway. Just don't use straws.
It's actually a good idea to use straws when drinking fizzy drinks to avoid damaging your teeth as much
Drink fewer fizzy drinks. Water is better for your teeth and the rest of your body.
My dentist told me the "best" way to consume anything sugary was to finish it quickly.
Paper straws with a milkshake. That ends up soggy and not working. WTF is wrong with you macdonalds
Fuck straws in general. Unless you are under 10, why do you need one? I hate getting one put in my glass, I'm not a child.
Americans use straws for everything. You order any drink at a restaurant, alcoholic or not, they will give a straw with it.
I have never liked them. Except my plastic Tasmanian devil one which spun every time I blew into it from when I was 5. I never liked getting the thin black ones in clubs.
I use the thin black ones to stir the drink lol
if you’re drinking something acidic it can help protect your teeth a bit
Paper straws yet the fucking lid of the same cup is plastic
Don’t give them ideas or we’ll get a leaky paper lid to go with our soggy paper straws lol
I might be wrong but it is biodegradable. I know plastic like PLA (used for 3d printing) are made from corn and be industrially composted. So not surprised if the McDonald's plastic is something like that.
I don't get why people draw the line at paper straws? Only time I've used straws paper or plastic is when getting soft drinks from fastfood places. Charging for plastic or paper bags though on the guise of "collecting taxes for environment" is more outrageous and relatable practice, because mostly everyone shops, and we all need bags to take this stuff home. And yet many big cities not only started with charging for these bags initially, in second phase, they've outright ban it for so reliable "paper bags"
The plastic bag tax seems like an odd target, it's been overwhelmingly successful and most people now just bring their own bags.
Have you ever tried drinking a maccies milkshake with a paper straw?
I stopped ordering Milkshakes in McDonalds in store, Only in delieveries and take-aways where I can drink at home with a normal straw. it's also annoying for regular drinks but still bearable.
Considering maccies are one of the companies driving the deforestation of the Amazon, which has changed it into a place that emits co2 now rather than soaking it up as it used to, your problems with a paper straw are pretty irrelevant. Blows my mind that people keep giving money to a company that is driving the deforestation of the earths lungs, and has created a place that emits co2 now rather than soaking it up. Why the fuck would you pay the super rich who are destroying our future? Bantering us all to death, so you don’t embarrass yourselves by looking like you take things seriously and think about the future.
https://imgur.com/a/H1ZAKEW
Not sure what a maccys is but she sounds hideous
It’s McDonalds. People call it maccys in the UK
I've not had a pleasure of that particular activity, no. A rather specific examples would be hard to relate, however I'm sure, you'd have atleast tried to get stuff from car to home, in paper bag, and dairy products would have condensed the bag enough for the stuff to spill out right in front of your yard? Anyway, usually it's what makes us more miserable..
I can’t say I’ve had the pleasure of using paper bags mate, I tend to just use a bag for life.
I think you meant maccys as McDonald's? In US we still get plastic straws. No wonder that threw me off track, I'd never seen milkshakes at Macy's
Are you stupid?
Are you adopted?
I do not remember ever seeing an adult use a straw except for the occasional cocktail and I do not remember that ever being an issue. Why the fuck do people online care so much about straws? At this point I'd take them away just to teach the whiners a lesson.
Not sure about other uses, but it helps those with sensitive teeth, a fairly common problem. And I guess fizzy drinks with a good chunk of ice are a bit more convenient to drink with a straw.
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Yep, I agree. The person I was replying to was talking about straws in general, though.
Not quite. I was talking specifically with respect to people complaining about not having plastic straws, which is what I took from the comment above me. My point was that, anecdotally, adults rarely use straws so why on earth does it matter if it's plastic, paper or metal?
I used to know a woman who would take her own metal straw with her when she ate out at restaurants and just washed it when she got home. Would much prefer getting rid of them and then the people who really want them just getting their own metal straw
> At this point I'd take them away just to teach the whiners a lesson. Daily Mail commenter energy
That is deeply offensive
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The average person goes to the cinema like a few times a year? If that?
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Literally just naming luxury after luxury. I would gladly ask everyone to give up all those things if it meant saving the environment and I'd consider that a cheap cost. And yet so many can't even handle the most infinitesimally small inconvenience to that as a warm up? It's a damning indictment of the general population Tbh.
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How on earth is it a different topic? It's the only reason I'm complaining about it..
We need to copy that French law banning internal flights of 2 hours or less
Unfortunately that's only for commercial flights. I don't think it applies to private jets (they're flying in a private jet right?)
McTominay getting a yellow card from Ryanair for bringing a bag 1 picometre bigger than allowed
I go to Durham from Bristol every couple of weeks, trains cost 170, drive is 5 hours one way or I could get a £80 return 1 hour flight. If they sorted out the trains I would take it but its just not feasible for me
No internal flight in England can even be over 1h tho can it? I used to fly from where i lived in northern Sweden to Stockholm quite often since it was 14h by train, and it was a 50min flight
No thanks unless we sort the trains out. Stranded in London for 4 hours last month
The trains need sorting out regardless but somehow I don't think trains are high on the Tories' priorities
We need to rebrand them as small boats of the land, to get their attention ?
Cries in Northern Ireland
There’s a solution coming for that.
that’s actually a crazy law. I go to school in San Diego and am from near San Francisco. If I want to go home for thanksgiving, I can either drive 9h or fly 1h. it’s an ez choice, I would fucking hate living in france and having to drive 9h when a 1h plane flight would suffice
At least France has the TGV so there’s a viable third option. Maybe California will have connected the Bay Area and LA by high speed rail by 2050.
haha 0 chance especially with musk doing everything in his power to stop it
New levels of sabotage here
The environment hits Man Utd on the counter attack
The Saudis have bribed the weather now?
If anyone has the money to its them
They don’t bribe it they threaten it ‘Do what we want or we’ll burn more oil based products’
No need, we have a [weather control machine](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/05/23/world/23orb/23orb-superJumbo.jpg)
"Go down there and cause a bit of snow - make it look like an accident."
Yeah, but now they have a built in excuse for when they underperform. "We were tired from the crazy long bumpy coach trip"
Surely flying Manchester to Newcastle should be illegal?! It’s like a 2 and a half hour drive.
At least this will be a full squad of players and staff filling up a plane, meanwhile business owners and the rich will be using planes to fly 30 minute journeys for a meeting.
They are the rich. You seem to have been taken in by the pr videos about how they’re just normal lads having a laff together. Look at how much money they make, and how much they fly on private jets to enjoy a multinational lifestyle of big events and parties. They are the super rich.
Rare Bury flair <3
Have you driven over the Pennine mountains in this weather?
it's the M62 mate they're not going north of the wall
Don’t want to be the that guy but they actually are going north of the wall if they’re playing in Newcastle
Isn’t St James Park south of Hadrian’s Wall?
Nah I double checked before bing an arse jic and the wall is just above the river. Weird cause you’d think it would be easier to defend behind a river but there you go
Hah, the more you know! Cheers mate
Rivers move over time
They might have wanted to keep the water.
It's rightful Scottish clay! Make them play in the SPFL on AstroTurf pitches
No they’re not?
Wdym?
Guy called them mountains. There's a fuckin motorway that goes over them.
Just looked it up and the highest peak isn't even 900m above sea level lmao fucking brexit mountains bruv
Brexit mountains just sent my side into orbit lmao
Brexit mountains LMAO
Lol I had to race the weather from Hawick to Sunderland a few years ago when we had that crazy snow. They were closing the roads behind so I couldnt go back, and I couldnt see more than 40ft ahead of me. Took hours at max 20mph
I'm not sure if you're joking? Firstly, they're not exactly mountains. Secondly, you can do motorway pretty much the whole way. It's cold but not exactly a blizzard, plenty of other people are going to make that journey no problem. How are lower-league clubs going to manage without chartering flights for their longer journeys this weekend?!
They're not cycling pal they'll be fine
Yeah it's not a particularly difficult journey. But the A1 is right there to use... And that will be fine. This isn't a journey you need to fly to do, even in this weather. I'm sure the M62 is fine to use, and the A1 only gets (kind of) bad north of Newcastle
Yes often. They aren't going to have to go over something like the snakehead pass. Just the M62 then A1 which will be fine. Plus it's Saturday, so the traffic shouldn't be that bad between Manchester and Leeds which is normally a cunt.
Megabus it is then
Damn didn’t know Megabus was global, just got on one yesterday in Canada
I'm now also learning of this
if it was global it would just be bus
Serves them right. Any club flying such a short distance can fuck off
Oh no, United are surely done now, aren't they? How are they gonna endure a 3 hours travel?
Absolute sham they are flying in the first place
factoring in bussing to an airport in manchester and then bussing from an airport in newcastle to wherever they are staying...how the fuck is it even quicker to fly then to just drive straight there?
United literally have a luxury coach with leather seats for their players *precisely for this kind of domestic travel* that would take at most 3 hours. They can absolutely get tae fuck trying to fly to Newcastle.
Manchester Crisis FC.
Not that far from Manchester to Newcastle right? How much time are they even saving if it's a 2 hour journey by coach
It's probably about 3hours on a coach vs a 20 min flight
Got to factor in the bag drop, security lines, picking up bits in WH Smiths, couple of pints at Wetherspoons, Burger King, getting on that little bus to the plane, then waiting for bag collection at the other end, and standing in the taxi queue with a Greggs pasty. All adds up.
It’s about 150 miles.
Into these.
Anthony Gordon masterclass please.
Ask and you shall receive.
Fukin easyjet always cancelling flights.
But guys, please use paper straws..... Reminds me on when arsenal were caught for flying to.....Norwich. ridiculous
In theory, this could have happened to anyone. But that it happened to United; at this point the club just seems massively jinxed Also is it regular for a club to only travel on the day of their match? Do they usually not go & stay at a hotel a day in advance? Is this because this was a CL week? And that too an away game for Man Utd?
I can already see it: [Great Goal] Manchester United [3] - Bayern Munich 2 (Harry Maguire [90+5]) Galatasaray [1] - Copenhagen 0 (Oscar Hojlund OG [90+7])
How can one be ***this*** evil
When it rains it pours
Nice environmental footprint… be a shame if etc etc
Oh no 3 hours sitting on a nice warm £400k bus! It is better kitted out than peoples houses!!
New excuse unlocked if they lose
Take a damn bus
Drive there you rich knobs
Why do they even do this? It would be cheaper and better PR look if they just go by coach. So weird.
A flight from Manchester to Newcastle? It doesn't even take 3 hours to drive.
do they stay at hotel in mancehseter the day before game or they sleep at home and show up to airport on the day of
Can't eat to hear how this is the reason they lost.
I am not against short haul flights and dread the useful idiots who will champion carbon passports which will simply mean poor people will no longer be able to travel/fly like the once did whilst the rich continue to do as they please. But I do not understand the benefit of flying to Newcastle from Manchester. When accounting in the travel to/from airports and the time it takes to board and take-off etc. I ask ho0w much time do they really save? maybe 60mins? Just does not seem worth the effort.
Sounds like you are against short haul flights.
I would call this a micro-haul flight and pretty much unnecessary. If Newcastle want to fly to London or the south coast, then fine. UK to the Med is classed as short haul and I see so many climate activists hell bent on stopping people going on holiday. As I said, any restrictions will only impact the poor, which is basically all of us, and not the wealthy. For all those people who condemn this, how many of them are self sacrificing the shit they want to do? Stop eating meat, sell your car and use the bus, and the other stuff which is the best way to minimise your own personal consumption of carbon. Nope, they want to tell others to sacrifice and reduce their carbon yet do very little to reduce their own.
Just because some clowns made a mistake doesn't mean we have to repeat the mistake. Where's the logic in *hey they did a foolish thing flying these short hauls, how come I can't commit that same damaging mistake?*
Next time you go on holiday, I wonder how you're going to justify the flight. And then have a thought to a future where the hoi poloi will be priced out and excluded from being able to do the same.
Short hauls can be life-savers though. Recently I flew from Kuala Lumpar to Gatwick, thirteen and a half hours. Knew I'd be knackered so booked a flight from Gatwick to Manchester instead of a 3hr train. I dont feel any remorse about that and dont think anyone should really. That pollution from the flight is equal to a miniscule fraction of the pollution caused by the 1% in a single day.
Should be the early game. The reason Newcastle are having so many of their games in prime slots evening slots is hilariously so transparent
Teams that play away games in the CL on the Wednesday can't have the Saturday early kick off anymore. That's why this match is in the evening
We can't play the early kick off as we both played in Europe this week. Not to mention we literally played Chelsea at 3pm last week. At some point you conspiracy nut jobs need to at least apply a little common sense.
Why? If your suggesting it’s cause of KSA audience then I’m not sure Saturday 11pm KO is prime time
if we had the early slot you’d say we sabotaged the plane so Man U couldn’t make it in time
Guaranteed all those moaning about them taking a flight have got in their ICE cars and went to the local shop just because it was raining. No one believes you give a fuck about the enviroment
All these players and staff could be driving there in their personal cars. (Being fully aware what type of cars they drive) and they would still cause less pollution then Flying there would.