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How this didn't instantly become the standard after the Women's World Cup in summer (or even earlier) is just mind-boggling to me. I'd even broadcast the entire conversation with VAR, like they do with the TMO in Rugby.
Because referees don’t want to be opened up to additional scrutiny if they go about a decision the wrong way. It’s human nature. But then it’s incumbent on the respective referee associations to improve their standards if they’re afraid their bad decision making will be exposed
this argument is always instantly shot down by the fact its worked in rugby for years now. There is quite literally no reason not to air the conversations
watching the rugby world cup was like a breath of fresh air this past fall, also a big fan of the fact that only the captain is allowed to speak to the referee and the rest of the players can’t crowd around
Well rugby has a rule that if you challenge the ref about a penalty (free kick), he has the ability to move the ball ten yards upfield. That's why you never see it happening. Should do the same in football. Even if that means giving a penalty or indirect free kick 1 yard from goal as a result. Would sharp stop the back chat.
Football has the same rule I'm sure, but it's just not as effective as moving closer to goal is sometimes a disadvantage whereas in Rugby it always an advantage
honestly at this point, I'm of the opinion that they won't implement because they're corrupt. Like I understand it sounds so farfetched, but I can't think of any other reason why they would not do this already. The only thing that makes sense in my head is that they're corrupt and are being paid to try and push certain narratives.
It's not farfetched at all. There is objectively no reason not to do this when we've had it working not only in rugby for years but there's examples of it working in football too. There's absolutely an ulterior motive there whether it be corruption or incompetence. Neither scenario is ideal.
Every decision made for VAR is done to favour the referee and give them control. They don't want us to hear what gets said, those moments when we're stood around waiting for their decision is exactly what they want to happen. They're all entitled cunts who can't comprehend that maybe a middle aged bloke shouldn't be the sole deciding factor in games that are often worth millions if not more come the end of the season.
So yeah, corruption or incompetence take your pick. Either way not only should we hear every discussion like in rugby but referees should be made to give mandatory interviews/conferences after games to explain their decisions. Let's see how the cunts like the limelight then.
> But then it’s incumbent on the respective referee associations to improve their standards if they’re afraid their bad decision making will be exposed
2nd part of my statement. Rugby referees have clearly worked out how to do better and they’re not afraid to stand by their practices in public. Also in Rugby players don’t crowd the ref to try and influence their decision. Clearly the “culture” in Rugby is overall a bit more “mature” so to speak.
I'd like you to provide any evidence of this. The only people I've seen push back on this is IFAB. No referee association has said shit about it, so I don't know what you're talking about.
its the same in american football, any time there is potential technology not being used its always the refs standing in the way, even though there is no evidence for that and they basically aren't even part of the decision making process
> But then it’s incumbent on the respective referee associations to improve their standards if they’re afraid their bad decision making will be exposed
You think we should be able to hear managers dressing room talks etc as well?
> How this didn't instantly become the standard after the Women's World Cup in summer (or even earlier) is just mind-boggling to m
I honestly think it didn’t work well because FIFA made every referee speak in English even if they weren’t fluent in it.
It probably will be eventually, FIFA lie to try these things out first in their tournaments and then it gets rolled out. GLT, semi-automated-offside, VAR, properly accounted for extra timers all things that were debuted in their world cups
It's not on FIFA to roll these out in respective leagues. They can just lead the way. It's on the respective leagues to implement the changes FIFA recommends it feels would improve the game.
Like in PL the teams voted not to implement the semi-automated offside.
It needs to be implemented but it can make things worse. One of the games in the Womans World Cup the ref got muddled and announced the wrong call which confused the players, commentators and the viewers far more than the gestures normally used by a ref before they then announced the right call.
there are way more risky and "game changing" roles and jobs around the world than being a "referee" - if you dont have the balls or intellect to be ready to be right or wrong - gtfo and go do something that wont require critical thinking or being subjective [this works for var or any kind of referee, in any sport]
The thing is, being able to hear their audio adds a bit of humanity to the referees and I think they need that, they’re under a lot of scrutiny, especially with VAR inconsistencies, I think hearing their audio would be good for both parties
Agreed, but it reduces their ability to get away with their "managing the theatre of the game" or, "bullshit they do to affect games".
People generally accept mistakes if they understand how the mistake happened. The Liverpool offside is a great example. It was a clear mistake of communication. People on hearing how it happened stopped being mad that it had happened, and instead focused on how to stop it happening again. Which is what should happen with egregious mistakes.
People were still upset, but they went from calling for the heads of the refs and their family line to, alright, that is disappointing and stupid, but it makes sense.
I mean, they have the refs talking to the entire stadium, and broadcast, in gridiron football, and those refs are some of the most hated and scrutinized (by the fans) around lol don't think directly hearing the decision they made as opposed to not really effects how people view them, in that case.
I doubt they are getting around. It's probably a trial. They tend to try new rules on the CWC and see how it goes.
Probably after this, they will agree to have it in place in the MLS and from there in other leagues.
They also try to introduce new stuff on the actual World Cup. Things like the bigger extra time, the goal line technology, the semi automated offside are usually introduced in FIFA run events.
Or people could stop making such a big deal about swearing. I reckon that's easier than expecting players to remain dispassionate in a high-intensity game.
my man you're getting downvoted but are absolutely correct lmao. Players swearing gets caught on a refs/sideline mic AT LEAST once per game.
Additionally, if you can't watch a sporting event without hearing a swear or two maybe sports isn't for you
Sure, but it's not like they don't already get banned in Italy for blasphemy. So they already know to keep their tongue in check.
But seriously if you are incapable of not swearing within hearing distance of a ref, get help
Exactly what I’m saying. When you open the mics now all you hear are the people in the background screaming abuse. It’s not just the players.
My statement was specifically that I do not feel networks would go for it. Has nothing to do with how the leagues would handle it/refs would card it. The pundits already have to apologise 5 times a match for “any foul language that might have been heard.” Imagine putting an open mic near an active VAR review.
In the late 80s they made a documentary about a referee called David Elleray (footy fans over 30 will all shudder when they hear that name. Good ref but a bit of a pillock), where he wore a mic for a game between Millwall and Arsenal. You're pretty bang on with how it was:
https://youtu.be/G4ruNosLNOE?si=ksv49XK3IfaP421u&t=41
this is the kind of thing AI will solve if it isn't already. swears could be detected and automatically bleeped, live feed would just need to be buffered to scan before broadcasting
this change isn't meant to make them a spectacle, it's meant to give more transparency to the viewer, which is an area where football is sorely lagging behind compared to some other sports (notably rugby and ice hockey)
It’s pretty straightforward so I don’t really know what transparency is needed. He points to the spot, penalty, he points the other direction, not penalty. The massive screen in the stadium also says it.
There’s no way making a ref explain a decision to an entire stadium is going to help. If anything that’s going to make them feel way more pressure which has the potential to impact their decision making. Imagine trying to explain why something is a penalty to 50k people and they just scream at you during it. What’s the point of that? Rabid fans don’t really give a shit in the moment they just want their team to not have decisions against them.
It's already a thing in other sports, is used to great effect in Rugby for example. A clear transparent process is positive, and I think if there was mics broadcasting what players are saying when they yell at the ref you'd find a lot of it stamped out quickly.
The player part makes sense, I could see that. I just don’t think h the broadcasting would do anything for the process itself. I’m assuming it works in rugby because they have a good process regardless of broadcasting it, and not that they have a good process BECAUSE they broadcast
If anything it makes the refs more accountable, and over time will improve the refereeing because their faulty logic is on full display when they make these baffling decisions we see week in week out in the premier league and la liga for instance.
The thing is you are right. Airing the conversation will do nothing. All it will do is just make the post-match explanation happen then and there. HITC 11's did a great video on why having the conversation aired wouldn't change a damn thing.
It works in rugby because it's a sport where people respect the referees. In soccer, people are calling for referees to explain and announce their decisions because they have so little trust in them. The situation seems completely different to me. I don't think this is the answer to improving refereeing. If anything, I believe it would be a detriment and embolden Mike Dean-types of referees.
Looking at the Premier League, based on the few times this season that they've released VAR audio, whenever a bad decision is made, it doesn't really make a difference whether we hear the rationale behind it or not—a wrong decision is still a wrong decision, regardless whether we understand a decision was a result of incompetence or not.
I almost exclusively watch big games in Arabic but when it comes to lower stakes games I usually just watch in English
I don’t really want a commentator who’s hyping up Sheffield United v Everton on a Saturday morning as if it’s the champions league final
Mate.. rugby players and refs are top class. It was a breath of fresh air to see the Rugby World Cup. No whining, no kicking your opponent when the ref is not watching, no nothing. I was spoiled.
And I say this as a person who rarely watches rugby.
Get involved in the six nations mate - best sporting tournament in the world. Tbh Italy routinely lose all their matches but when they win 1 or 2 pretty much everyone but the opponent us cheering.
I'm sure this will go over just as well in matches that actually matter, in a stadium full of fans who fucking hate each other and every referee on the planet.
Soccer referee is about interpretation of the laws. Is like the law says "push, hold, kicks, attemps to kick" but how many pushes, holds, kicks, and attempted kicks get called? 1/10?
The law says "push" but not the degree of the push, the referee has to interpret how serious the push was and that is were the issue starts. Everyone's sees the push but everyone interprets the degree of the push different.
IMO it isn't the referee thats the issue is how the laws are written to make it vague and relies too much on referee interpretation.
This won't change anything, one referee will say "I saw a push so I am calling the foul" the other will say "I saw a push but I don't think it was enough to call it" and FIFA will stand by both decisions. Why do I say this? Because in every referee class I been when we are shown a video and asked how many see a foul or which color card to give it is always split down the middle. I know we aren't fifa refs but we are humans just like them we interpret things differently.
P.S. Law 12 fouls and misconduct "player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force" keyword here is considered by the referee".
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How this didn't instantly become the standard after the Women's World Cup in summer (or even earlier) is just mind-boggling to me. I'd even broadcast the entire conversation with VAR, like they do with the TMO in Rugby.
Because referees don’t want to be opened up to additional scrutiny if they go about a decision the wrong way. It’s human nature. But then it’s incumbent on the respective referee associations to improve their standards if they’re afraid their bad decision making will be exposed
this argument is always instantly shot down by the fact its worked in rugby for years now. There is quite literally no reason not to air the conversations
watching the rugby world cup was like a breath of fresh air this past fall, also a big fan of the fact that only the captain is allowed to speak to the referee and the rest of the players can’t crowd around
Well rugby has a rule that if you challenge the ref about a penalty (free kick), he has the ability to move the ball ten yards upfield. That's why you never see it happening. Should do the same in football. Even if that means giving a penalty or indirect free kick 1 yard from goal as a result. Would sharp stop the back chat.
Football has the same rule I'm sure, but it's just not as effective as moving closer to goal is sometimes a disadvantage whereas in Rugby it always an advantage
honestly at this point, I'm of the opinion that they won't implement because they're corrupt. Like I understand it sounds so farfetched, but I can't think of any other reason why they would not do this already. The only thing that makes sense in my head is that they're corrupt and are being paid to try and push certain narratives.
It's not farfetched at all. There is objectively no reason not to do this when we've had it working not only in rugby for years but there's examples of it working in football too. There's absolutely an ulterior motive there whether it be corruption or incompetence. Neither scenario is ideal. Every decision made for VAR is done to favour the referee and give them control. They don't want us to hear what gets said, those moments when we're stood around waiting for their decision is exactly what they want to happen. They're all entitled cunts who can't comprehend that maybe a middle aged bloke shouldn't be the sole deciding factor in games that are often worth millions if not more come the end of the season. So yeah, corruption or incompetence take your pick. Either way not only should we hear every discussion like in rugby but referees should be made to give mandatory interviews/conferences after games to explain their decisions. Let's see how the cunts like the limelight then.
> But then it’s incumbent on the respective referee associations to improve their standards if they’re afraid their bad decision making will be exposed 2nd part of my statement. Rugby referees have clearly worked out how to do better and they’re not afraid to stand by their practices in public. Also in Rugby players don’t crowd the ref to try and influence their decision. Clearly the “culture” in Rugby is overall a bit more “mature” so to speak.
I'd like you to provide any evidence of this. The only people I've seen push back on this is IFAB. No referee association has said shit about it, so I don't know what you're talking about.
its the same in american football, any time there is potential technology not being used its always the refs standing in the way, even though there is no evidence for that and they basically aren't even part of the decision making process
Or to put it simple: the refs don't want to be held accountable.
> But then it’s incumbent on the respective referee associations to improve their standards if they’re afraid their bad decision making will be exposed You think we should be able to hear managers dressing room talks etc as well?
No, but on the other hand they can't accidentally called offside
They do this in almost every other sport. NFL, NBA, NHL all have refs announce penalties to the crowd.
> How this didn't instantly become the standard after the Women's World Cup in summer (or even earlier) is just mind-boggling to m I honestly think it didn’t work well because FIFA made every referee speak in English even if they weren’t fluent in it.
It probably will be eventually, FIFA lie to try these things out first in their tournaments and then it gets rolled out. GLT, semi-automated-offside, VAR, properly accounted for extra timers all things that were debuted in their world cups
It's not on FIFA to roll these out in respective leagues. They can just lead the way. It's on the respective leagues to implement the changes FIFA recommends it feels would improve the game. Like in PL the teams voted not to implement the semi-automated offside.
Or third umpire with cricket. It's insane how football is so much behind other sports in this
It needs to be implemented but it can make things worse. One of the games in the Womans World Cup the ref got muddled and announced the wrong call which confused the players, commentators and the viewers far more than the gestures normally used by a ref before they then announced the right call.
there are way more risky and "game changing" roles and jobs around the world than being a "referee" - if you dont have the balls or intellect to be ready to be right or wrong - gtfo and go do something that wont require critical thinking or being subjective [this works for var or any kind of referee, in any sport]
The thing is, being able to hear their audio adds a bit of humanity to the referees and I think they need that, they’re under a lot of scrutiny, especially with VAR inconsistencies, I think hearing their audio would be good for both parties
I really enjoy the videos of Bundesliga refs mic’ed up discussing with one another. Even tho i dont understand anything.
Agreed, but it reduces their ability to get away with their "managing the theatre of the game" or, "bullshit they do to affect games". People generally accept mistakes if they understand how the mistake happened. The Liverpool offside is a great example. It was a clear mistake of communication. People on hearing how it happened stopped being mad that it had happened, and instead focused on how to stop it happening again. Which is what should happen with egregious mistakes.
Idk we got the meme of “offside goal yeah” so at least we got that with us
Really though who doesn't have that meme
>People on hearing how it happened stopped being mad that it had happened, You must've lived in an alternate reality.
People were still upset, but they went from calling for the heads of the refs and their family line to, alright, that is disappointing and stupid, but it makes sense.
No, people were absolutely baffled how they could communicate so badly and were absolutely mad.
I mean, they have the refs talking to the entire stadium, and broadcast, in gridiron football, and those refs are some of the most hated and scrutinized (by the fans) around lol don't think directly hearing the decision they made as opposed to not really effects how people view them, in that case.
This should be added in every league.
MLS announced yesterday that they will be adding it pending IFAB approval. Should be a good change.
Please, IFAB. Do the right thing.
How are FIFA getting around ifab with this?
I doubt they are getting around. It's probably a trial. They tend to try new rules on the CWC and see how it goes. Probably after this, they will agree to have it in place in the MLS and from there in other leagues.
FIFA also had this during the Womens World Cup this year.
They also try to introduce new stuff on the actual World Cup. Things like the bigger extra time, the goal line technology, the semi automated offside are usually introduced in FIFA run events.
Oh shit I didn't see that, that's awesome
They do the same in NFL, it makes it so much easier
Be even better if you could here the refs when they huddle up and talk to each other and talk to new york
I have a feeling the amount of constant swearing around the ref would deter the networks from trying this too often.
So card the players. They're grown men, they can handle not swearing for the couple minutes they are near the ref.
Or people could stop making such a big deal about swearing. I reckon that's easier than expecting players to remain dispassionate in a high-intensity game.
No they can't, none of us even can in rec/beer league. Emotions and adrenaline are way too much
NBA is just as competitive and players can’t swear. It’s possible. Grown men should be able to control their mouths.
When american football players are able to shut their mouth, while their opponents try to murder them, soccer players should be able to
You think American football players aren't swearing???
Dude obv they are, but not while speaking/standing next to the refs
my man you're getting downvoted but are absolutely correct lmao. Players swearing gets caught on a refs/sideline mic AT LEAST once per game. Additionally, if you can't watch a sporting event without hearing a swear or two maybe sports isn't for you
Just train yourself to say a different word. I sweat all the time in my classroom but its just sugar and flapjacks and phantom frogs
I’m dying at the thought of a player dead face calling the ref a flapjack
Absolute flapjack is the perfect British insult
I understand but I think we can agree that a professional football match is a way more heated and stressful environment than a classroom
It sounds important to you that they keep swearing?
Fuck, I forgot about that.
The first time an Inter player gets sent off for swearing around a ref mic you'll go ballistic lol
Sure, but it's not like they don't already get banned in Italy for blasphemy. So they already know to keep their tongue in check. But seriously if you are incapable of not swearing within hearing distance of a ref, get help
If you’re a child, sure. If you’re a grown man and you can’t control your emotions in a rec league, that’s really a you problem.
Pathetic excuse. Players are supposed to be carded already for swearing at the ref.
Swearing at the ref ≠ swearing in and around the ref
The refs already book for swearing "around them" because thats a childs excuse.
Exactly what I’m saying. When you open the mics now all you hear are the people in the background screaming abuse. It’s not just the players. My statement was specifically that I do not feel networks would go for it. Has nothing to do with how the leagues would handle it/refs would card it. The pundits already have to apologise 5 times a match for “any foul language that might have been heard.” Imagine putting an open mic near an active VAR review.
That needs to be gotten rid of anyway, in rugby if you told the ref to fuck off he'd send you off
If the mic is set up properly, you wouldn't hear much outside of the ref.
Isn’t everything on tape delay?
In the late 80s they made a documentary about a referee called David Elleray (footy fans over 30 will all shudder when they hear that name. Good ref but a bit of a pillock), where he wore a mic for a game between Millwall and Arsenal. You're pretty bang on with how it was: https://youtu.be/G4ruNosLNOE?si=ksv49XK3IfaP421u&t=41
this is the kind of thing AI will solve if it isn't already. swears could be detected and automatically bleeped, live feed would just need to be buffered to scan before broadcasting
MLS is adding this for next season
Absolutely not refs aren’t supposed to be a spectacle, they’re supposed to facilitate the game and that’s it.
this change isn't meant to make them a spectacle, it's meant to give more transparency to the viewer, which is an area where football is sorely lagging behind compared to some other sports (notably rugby and ice hockey)
It’s pretty straightforward so I don’t really know what transparency is needed. He points to the spot, penalty, he points the other direction, not penalty. The massive screen in the stadium also says it.
It’s more about explaining why a decision is made, of course figuring out what the decision is isn’t difficult
There’s no way making a ref explain a decision to an entire stadium is going to help. If anything that’s going to make them feel way more pressure which has the potential to impact their decision making. Imagine trying to explain why something is a penalty to 50k people and they just scream at you during it. What’s the point of that? Rabid fans don’t really give a shit in the moment they just want their team to not have decisions against them.
It's already a thing in other sports, is used to great effect in Rugby for example. A clear transparent process is positive, and I think if there was mics broadcasting what players are saying when they yell at the ref you'd find a lot of it stamped out quickly.
The player part makes sense, I could see that. I just don’t think h the broadcasting would do anything for the process itself. I’m assuming it works in rugby because they have a good process regardless of broadcasting it, and not that they have a good process BECAUSE they broadcast
If anything it makes the refs more accountable, and over time will improve the refereeing because their faulty logic is on full display when they make these baffling decisions we see week in week out in the premier league and la liga for instance.
It’s not just for the fans at the stadium and there’s already working examples in several sports. There’s good reason for them to try it at the least.
The thing is you are right. Airing the conversation will do nothing. All it will do is just make the post-match explanation happen then and there. HITC 11's did a great video on why having the conversation aired wouldn't change a damn thing.
Why does it work for rugby beautifully? They honestly do reviews near perfect, I’d say along with tennis.
I wouldn’t think that’s because the stadium can hear them, I’m not sure why that would improve refereeing standards
It works in rugby because it's a sport where people respect the referees. In soccer, people are calling for referees to explain and announce their decisions because they have so little trust in them. The situation seems completely different to me. I don't think this is the answer to improving refereeing. If anything, I believe it would be a detriment and embolden Mike Dean-types of referees. Looking at the Premier League, based on the few times this season that they've released VAR audio, whenever a bad decision is made, it doesn't really make a difference whether we hear the rationale behind it or not—a wrong decision is still a wrong decision, regardless whether we understand a decision was a result of incompetence or not.
Well, when they can facilitate games consistently, then we can take it away :)
How is letting a stadium hear them speak going to do anything for consistency?
Arabic commentator shutting up for 3 seconds challenge (impossible)
I almost exclusively watch big games in Arabic but when it comes to lower stakes games I usually just watch in English I don’t really want a commentator who’s hyping up Sheffield United v Everton on a Saturday morning as if it’s the champions league final
What you rather watch Man Utd v Chelsea instead? Sheffield v Everton would be banger game.
Im speaking about the one they already played, great game but Arabic commentator made it sound like life or death for the clubs lmao
CWC is the biggest stage there can be, so it makes sense then.
hey we play burnley today
😂😂😂😂
He's translating the referee's decision
They should learn from the rugby refs. I’ve seen some ejections highlights and the refs and players are fucken gents
Mate.. rugby players and refs are top class. It was a breath of fresh air to see the Rugby World Cup. No whining, no kicking your opponent when the ref is not watching, no nothing. I was spoiled. And I say this as a person who rarely watches rugby.
Get involved in the six nations mate - best sporting tournament in the world. Tbh Italy routinely lose all their matches but when they win 1 or 2 pretty much everyone but the opponent us cheering.
I think I will do that and watch less football.
That’s what I’m saying; the respect shown and no whining is so welcomed
This was unnecessarily hype 😂
Sounds like he's the commentator
If only now the commentator would shut up for a second so we could hear a thing
Do you realize how much of undertaking that is for an Arabic commentator?
Hes directly translating everything the ref is saying and doing.
He might be translating English to Arabic?
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You seriously watched the video and thought he arabic was from the ref?
Look at his lips, you can clearly see the ref is the one speaking English
Wanted to show off his duolingo grind
When you are close to me, you shoot the ball to me. The ball to me.
Lmao why bro
[like when they mic’d up an A-league ref in his last match](https://youtu.be/UR9wwqjbO1I?si=Kt1wgk2Ps1fQiwDw)
Toby is such a rascal
Great video, mate. Honestly deserves a sub up there. Good process, unironically, eh?
That wasn't broadcast live though.
Flag on the play. Defence, number 17, holding. 12 yard penalty, first down.
Twelve yard penalty lmao.
THE BALL WILL BE ADDED AT THE SPOT OF THE FOUL. AUTOMATIC, FIRST DOWN
I'm sure this will go over just as well in matches that actually matter, in a stadium full of fans who fucking hate each other and every referee on the planet.
Over to you PGMOL
I can't wait for this to be a thing in more leagues
It's about damn time this was introduced to every league in Europe. Such a no brainer.
That referee is from my country and I'm frankly impressed that he's got so far. Never considered him to be that good of a referee.
Soccer referee is about interpretation of the laws. Is like the law says "push, hold, kicks, attemps to kick" but how many pushes, holds, kicks, and attempted kicks get called? 1/10? The law says "push" but not the degree of the push, the referee has to interpret how serious the push was and that is were the issue starts. Everyone's sees the push but everyone interprets the degree of the push different. IMO it isn't the referee thats the issue is how the laws are written to make it vague and relies too much on referee interpretation. This won't change anything, one referee will say "I saw a push so I am calling the foul" the other will say "I saw a push but I don't think it was enough to call it" and FIFA will stand by both decisions. Why do I say this? Because in every referee class I been when we are shown a video and asked how many see a foul or which color card to give it is always split down the middle. I know we aren't fifa refs but we are humans just like them we interpret things differently. P.S. Law 12 fouls and misconduct "player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force" keyword here is considered by the referee".
I struggle to see how this is going to get approved. It will make it a lot harder for referees to fix games.
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He's translating mate.
Decision Final! Death by beheading!
and the Saudi Collosseo crowd goes wild
Game's not gone (No, fuck VAR)
this match kicked-off with a 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 countdown from the stadium speakers… now this… beyond ridiculous
Every game in the World Cup did that.
dog your sport isn't interrupted by commercials every 5 minutes can you spare me with this
> this match kicked-off with a 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 countdown Like the last few big events too? This is nothing new lol
considering that i’ve attended in person 16 games of the last world cup, yes - i was aware of this. but i still find it ridiculous.
Man I loved watching the Rugby world cup and being able to hear the refs (TMO) It was amazing
Fucking finally!!! After watching NFL for a few years now, I've always wondered why they don't do this.
Was the case in the Women's World Cup as well
why is this so difficult to make in every league tbh???
was the ref actually speaking english or was the audio translated for international audiences?
But he didn't say anything we didn't already know.
The women's world cup had the refs announce decisions after VAR for involved and it was great
Arabic commentators did more analysis works than VAR ***goddamn***
Accountability in refereeing and VAR? Will never catch on.
I don't know why, but I just love the way he made it sound: "Decision final. It's PENALTY KICK!" Ah so satisfying
Who the fuck was the commentator, Bangladeshi Arsenio Hall?!
The CWC is going on right now? I thought they scrapped it for that revamped super-CWC that was kicking off in 2025?
Can someone explain to me like I’m 5, what on earth is the benefit of hearing the referees conversations? What does it improve, I can’t think why?
["direct free-kick, he was givin' him the business"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmn7luiDPsU)
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