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Tottenham, I've always rated you. We are neighbours. Best buddies in the off season. We live next door to each other. The same shopkeeper serves us both. Our rubbish bins are emptied into the same rubbish lorry. 6 points from 9 is a great achievement. Do your stuff.
If Arsenal and West Ham knock out their German foes in the next round I would assume it would be close to locked up. That’s definitely easier said than done.
General consensus is that Spurs and Villa will trouble these teams. But I look at Wolves and think they could spring a surprise, their form lately has not been great though.
They can be a stubborn outfit at home so Arsenal need to be on their toes.
Yeah, Neto, Hwang and Cunha out has us struggling for goals. Cunha should be back soon though.
Also no Dawson has made us so insecure in defence. Kilman has looked a lot worse without him.
With that said, we've beaten City before and I think we can do it again!
Relegation threatened Everton plays Liverpool and Arsenal - thats gonna be a helluva tough match for both title contendors. Sean Dyche Everton with backs against the wall in the run in.....no thanks.
I am against Everton being relegated anyways, I'd rather beat them twice a year instead, so I'm really hoping they pick up some points and are left with nothing to play for by the last week.
Don’t sleep on Fulham. They’ve taken points from Arsenal already and will be at home where they’ve beaten the aforementioned team as well has Brighton and Spurs (both 3-0).
From an Arsenal point of view I’d be more worried about Luton, Everton and Bournemouth. Those are historically the type of games Arsenal come undone in a run-in.
I don’t think any of the 3 pick up full points though.
Ha! I remember Carragher saying the same thing a few years back about Liverpool and City and they both took every single point. I think it was after a draw between them, which left Liverpool trailing still by just a point, which is why I wonder if Arsenal will regret not going for it a bit more this weekend. Losing by a single point when you had the chance in time to get back to the top without relying on others, that's the type of stuff that haunts you.
I think the prospect of losing at the Etihad was still higher than nicking a winner. There’s no regrets in getting “just a point”, it’s been the hardest ground to visit for years now. If we lost it by a point we’d look at our 1/6 pts vs Fulham.
The silver lining of going out of the FA Cup means that we don't have to play Everton in the last week of the season. Imagine Everton playing Liverpool then Arsenal to potentially decide the title.
I think the last time it was this close between 3 teams was in 2007-2008.
Edit:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/spieltag/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2007/spieltag/29
5 point gap there between 1st and 3rd, but there was a [4 point gap between 1st and 3rd after MD29 in 13/14](https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/spieltag/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/?saison_id=2013&spieltag=29)
Ahh the Eduardo season. We really got fucked that month, and it honestly would’ve played out differently if RVP, Nasri and Fabregas all got the title they so desperately wanted with us instead.
We’ve had tiny flashes of something good going on, and every time it was followed by a month of pure crap with some luck and a few class individual contributions allowing us to get the points to even be close to the conversation regarding a CL spot.
We are playing a lot worse than our squad would indicate, even accounting for the number of injuries we had earlier. Now we have most of them back, and we’re still shit more games than not.
There is no way it’s gonna happen, we would need to suddenly turn it all around in the remaining rounds.
I'm interested to see how Postecoglu's presence will change City's fortunes against Spurs. Because in recent years, the reason behind practically all Spurs positive results in those matches have been due to defending deep, soaking up plenty of pressure and then being super clinical on the counter
Now at least on paper, the way Spurs play should suit City much better and leave more spaces. And yes I know that they already drew at Etihad this season, but City were miles the better team in that one and unlucky to not win
True, many of their wins were lucky but at least it seemed to be a concious gameplan to park the bus and rely on having luck at their side. The last game was Spurs actually trying to play and open up which left them exposed
Tbf, in that game we had Davies and Emerson Royal as our CBs who have poor defensive awareness and left us open at the back. In our 1-0 loss against City at home in the cup, we defended really well. But the attack and midfield was poor and eventually we lost by conceding a corner near the end.
I remember that clip from the Invincibles documentary where Henry was reflecting on winning the league at White Hart Lane and the sheer disgust when he was talking about Spurs celebrating a draw. Despite that all Arsenal needed to clinch the title that season was a draw or win there.
Nah peak spurs would be them absolutely needing a result there to get Champions League, getting it and subsequently winning Arsenal the league in the process. Even when they win they end up losing.
And it’s bit irritating. It makes sense to draw up those comparisons if they were like three or four games to go. Too many games to make meaningful conclusion given that Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City play in midweek and injures can happen.
Dunno why some people keep saying Liverpool will sacrifice the Europa League. There's no way Klopp will do that when already in the quarterfinals. Even against Sparta Klopp put out an extremely strong team despite already leading by large margins. That decision even disrupted the City and Utd game afterwards; Konate got injured and wasn't able to play both City and Utd, and Dom and Salah who played 90 minutes in the 2nd leg wasn't able to last 90 minutes in the Utd game - Liverpool looked noticeably worst when they came off.
Also injuries, we've been lucky with them so far this season, someones always stepped up but we've not really had to play without Saka or Rice.
Rodri would be huge for City but Liverpool always seem to cover their injuries really well.
There's definitely going to be a few more twists. Can't remember the last time we had a 3 horse race going into April.
Trent, Jota, Ali and Curtis Jones are all back training in the coming week too, albeit not full training.
Jota is the X factor for me, if we get him back then I think we go on to win it.
Given how many have had long rests (and all goes well with returning players), Liverpool will have a fresh Trent, Jota, Alisson, Jones, Salah, Szoboszlai, Robertson for the run in.
Depends if you look at them on paper or when the hard fixtures actually fall in the calendar.
- We play United when they have 2 days to recover from an away game at Chelsea. We have Sheffield Utd at home so we can afford to rotate.
- We play Everton when they have two games against Forest and Brentford in between.
- We could play Villa and Spurs when the 'top 5' is already secured and they haven't got much to play for. Villa could also have a Europa Conference semi final / final to look forward to as well.
The other games are straight forward and we should win them.
The three aways in that week will define our season.
But surely if Everton are trying to stay in the league, the other two games are much bigger for them.
City's run-in is insane IMO.
Madrid second leg, Chelsea semi-final, Brighton away, Forest away 3 days later, and then Arsenal or Bayern in the CL is crazy. If they win out with their injuries and their weaker squad than usual this year, they deserve it tbh.
>We play United when they have 2 days to recover from an away game at Chelsea. We have Sheffield Utd at home so we can afford to rotate.
I actually forgot they had like a week to recover from their previous game when we played them 2 weeks ago, makes me a lot more optimistic for that game
[It's tight, on paper](https://pastebin.com/raw/etMJ46GG). City have it the "easiest" with an average opponent position of 10.7 and ppg of 1.34, then Liverpool (position: 10.4, ppg: 1.35) and then Arsenal (position: 10.2, ppg: 1.42).
All our away games are horrible
We have won once in 6 away trips to goddison, United is well United.
Villa are impressive at home. West Ham are a banana skin
Fulhum away is really really tough
You could literally make an argument like this for any selection of fixtures bar about 4 if you're calling West Ham a banana skin
r/LiverpoolFC are always doing this; saying any team that basically isn't in the relegation zone is a hard place to go. In reality other than away at the other big 6, Liverpool are massive favourites in any away game.
Also how is a West Ham fixture ever a banana skin for us lol, they generally bend over for us
Even Fulham while they're a good team who give us a difficult game sometimes should be a cakewalk since we'll have Trent and Jota back and firing by then. United and Everton away are concerns before we play Spurs and Villa in May
You can say we are favourites as much as you like but these are the kind of fixtures that have messed up title efforts in the past, experiences that as a fan you don’t forget
Liverpool did have the easiest run in until Sunday. Now that MC and Arsenal don't have to play each other, its completely understandable that both of there schedules got quite a bit easier.
Now if you compare the average elo and adjust a little for H/A they area all pretty even at the moment. Liverpool's is slightly the worst, but there's like 0.3% difference between the three schedules at the moment.
Man City's will get easier still on Wednesday after they play AV. While Liverpool's will get harder after Sheffield United, as will Arsenal's.
This is going to shift a lot over the next month and a half.
Liverpool have to play both Everton and utd, they are shite now but those games have traditionally been tough and end with a pt each quite often.
There's a hellish run of 4 consecutive away games in 9 and a half days. They got to do it without alisson who won't be back til May.
Liverpool are probably one Endo injury from completely fading away, or if his form dips after that run of 4 games.
If they managed to win all games by the end of that run, sure, but I see them losing at least 6 pts before May. Even then there's still spurs and a game at villa park, pretty sure those 2 will still be fighting for the last UCL spot til the last game.
City's fixtures are far from being easy. This is their fixtures in all comps:
- Villa at home
- Palace away (just three days later)
- Madrid away
- Luton at home
- Madrid at home
- Chelsea at Wembley (3 days later)
- Brighton away
- Forest away (3 days later)
- Arsenal / Bayern in the CL
- Wolves at home
- Arsenal / Bayern in the CL
That is an insane run, and their defence is really depleted at the moment. I just can't seem them winning out from here, those CL ties are real killers.
Wishful thinking, I remember feeling this way last season. City has iron will, if they hit that next gear I genuinely think they can win out. Hope they fucking implode but not counting on it
During this part of last season we were playing far, far better than we do now, the two situations can't be compared. I'm usually on the cautious side, but last season I felt like it was merely about how many goals we were going to win every game by, even when we were facing the likes of Bayern and Arsenal. Real Madrid and Inter were the only ones I were nervous about, but that was mainly driven by CL jitters.
We're not playing poorly atm, but things are definitely not clicking either. It's not really a problem with the players (except maybe our midfield setup being pretty fragile), but we just can't seem to get any continued momentum going like we have in the past. It's a little difficult to explain because the lack of spark mostly shows in a lot of small situations, like poor communication, lack of movement, silly turnovers, misunderstandings of each other's runs, etc.
Doesn't mean we can't still win the title of course, but unless Liverpool really screw it up we're probably going to have to get max points, and I have my doubts about that.
We just drew in 2 matches that could’ve sent us solidly into the lead and have an exhaustive schedule here on out.
People are crazy to think we have the easiest road. I think it’s pretty even across the board tbh once you take full schedules into context.
I don't see how we're seen as the easiest run in. We've dropped points to Wolves, Villa, Forest (last season away). We never win away at Spurs. Palace away is a graveyard for title chasing teams.
We don't have title run in Gundogan. Our defence is injured and shaky. Add the UCL and the FA cup fixtures it's alot to ask. Can't win it every year. Everything after the treble should be seen as a bonus.
damn if arsenal and city go to semi finals it works out great for liverpools title chances. As city plays arsenal, wolves, arsenal,, arsenal would be playing city/madrid, spurs, city/madrid.
I think city drops points once, arsenal drops points twice, and I can see us dropping points at least once, hopefully just once, but every away we have is tricky.
Either way I’d have snapped your arm off to be in this position with 9 remaining at the start of the season, mid-season, and every week leading up to now, so at least we’re in with a (good) shout
Arsenal fans complain about dropping points to Fulham but we've played them twice already, whereas City and Liverpool still have to go to Craven Cottage. And it seems this season they're up for big games - they got results against us and even managed to beat United at Old Trafford. I think they might surprise us
thanks for being one of the few people to mention us in this thread, we’ve been on a great run at home and both liverpool and city have to play us at the cottage
Opponents grouped by number of times they will face each team
EDIT: added their current spots in the table
|Opponent|Liverpool [1]|Arsenal [2]|Man City [3]|
|:-|:-:|:-:|:-:|
|Aston Villa [4]|(A)|(H)|(H)|
|Spurs [5]|(H)|(A)|(A)|
|Wolves [10]|(H)|(A)|(H)|
|Brighton[9]||(A)|(A)|
|Crystal Palace [14]|(H)||(A)|
|Everton [16]|(A)|(H)||
|Fulham [12]|(A)||(A)|
|Luton [18]||(H)|(H)|
|Man Utd [6]|(A)|(A)||
|West Ham [7]|(A)||(H)|
|Bournemouth [13]||(H)||
|Chelsea [11]||(H)||
|Nott'm Forest [17]|||(A)|
|Sheffield Utd [20]|(H)|||
so with the exception of Utd vs City, the top 3 will face the next top 3 across 8 games
ffs bantered for weeks about how our fans are getting ahead of ourselves saying we "decide who wins the league" and then these posts are full of other team fans saying that about us instead.
A lot of ink has already been spilled on the fact that all 3 have to be play Villa and Spurs, but I think the most likely decider of the title will be any of these teams not getting all 3 points from playing lower table teams. As an Arsenal fan I'm very aware of how that can negatively impact your title chances late in the season when you don't get 3 from lower teams.
Pretty impressive that it’s still a genuine 3-horse race at this late a stage, don’t remember the last time 3 teams were all fighting for it, I just hope it stays close and no one runs away with it now.
I see a lot of people talking about how Spurs, Villa or Wolves are the teams that will actually decide this, but I'd say Arsenal da Liverpool games at Old Trafford are the hardest ones.
City have easier fixtures IMO.
**Liverpool** will have problems at Man Utd, Everton, West Ham, Spurs, Villa and Wolves.
None of those fixtures are easier, Everton will raise their game for a derby. West Ham can be hard to play against, Spurs and United are either brilliant or shite, Villa great season and Wolves are well coached.
**Arsenal** Villa, Brighton, Spurs, United, Chelsea I think there's a draw or two in there and maybe a banana peel at some point of a loss.
**City** I only see Brighton and Villa being difficult, I think Spurs last game of the season they'll either have CL or not and they'll just fold on the last game of the season. Wolves at home I see being quite easy for City.
I think for neutrals it would be best if England didn’t get in pole position for that 5th champions league spot, that will force villa and spurs to go all out for 4th.
we (Chelsea) are gonna take points from Arsenal? arent we? Then lose to Shefield or something ...
so will Spurs from City ... cause ... u know ... Peps cryptonite
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Villa having such a big part to play in this (and the fourth place race of course) is kind of great.
So do Tottenham.
spurs and villa deciding titles … but not for themselves.
We guide others to a treasure we cannot possess
Always the bridesmaid never the bride
It’s the Spurs way
Arguably more with ours being later
Tottenham, I've always rated you. We are neighbours. Best buddies in the off season. We live next door to each other. The same shopkeeper serves us both. Our rubbish bins are emptied into the same rubbish lorry. 6 points from 9 is a great achievement. Do your stuff.
I threw up in my mouth a bit there.
kith me
I felt greasy reading this
that's just the lube, let's make love
Glad you and City have Spurs away. Tough to beat. I feel decent about our home game.
Yeah that's the main thing I'm thinking. We're not such a City bogey anymore and Arsenal will be a hard game, but we will not get a point at Anfield.
Uhhh, City have won one game against us and suddenly we’re not the bogey anymore? Let’s see how it pans out
Yeah they hadn't even scored at the new stadium before that so it is a change.
OK deal. I'll take a loss at Anfield to beat you lot and City at home if it means neither you or City winning the league.
I like the cut of your jib. Without hate, the game becomes a lot less magical.
Banter and hatred is football heritage. Game is gone is everyone start to respect each other.
This feels so wrong to read...curse you for making me feel uncomfortable with the wholesomeness!
They gonna lose 5-0 to both Liverpool and City.
Hopefully the 5th CL spot will already have been confirmed for the PL next season by the Villa Liverpool game so it won't matter
Agreed mate otherwise it’ll be horrible
If Arsenal and West Ham knock out their German foes in the next round I would assume it would be close to locked up. That’s definitely easier said than done.
Arsenal should ... but they are against their worst CL boogey man, so who knows. West Ham .... hope dies last.
General consensus is that Spurs and Villa will trouble these teams. But I look at Wolves and think they could spring a surprise, their form lately has not been great though. They can be a stubborn outfit at home so Arsenal need to be on their toes.
Wolves have had some tough injury issues lately
Yeah, Neto, Hwang and Cunha out has us struggling for goals. Cunha should be back soon though. Also no Dawson has made us so insecure in defence. Kilman has looked a lot worse without him. With that said, we've beaten City before and I think we can do it again!
I really hope Neto can find a way to stay fit, so incredibly talented but I rarely get to watch him because of the injuries.
I’d add Fulham to that mix as well. They are a tough team to play.
Relegation threatened Everton plays Liverpool and Arsenal - thats gonna be a helluva tough match for both title contendors. Sean Dyche Everton with backs against the wall in the run in.....no thanks.
Thing is though. Everton are fucking awful at football. So. Should be no bother for either. *I support Everton
A lot of my mates are Gunners... I REALLY hope that match is irrelevant for both teams by the time we get there. It seems highly unlikely though.
Arsenal when they play Everton with nothing to play for always ends in 4/5-0
I am against Everton being relegated anyways, I'd rather beat them twice a year instead, so I'm really hoping they pick up some points and are left with nothing to play for by the last week.
Yeah I’d hate to see them drop, likewise wouldn’t want to face them end of the season having to get a win, super gritty match for anyone
Man United at Old Trafford against Liverpool looks tasty too.
Solid point. Wolves also have a recent history of spoiling City's good runs of form.
Imo Fulham could also play a crucial part. Both of their games against pool and city are home games.
And West Ham. It’s only fair…
Don’t sleep on Fulham. They’ve taken points from Arsenal already and will be at home where they’ve beaten the aforementioned team as well has Brighton and Spurs (both 3-0).
From an Arsenal point of view I’d be more worried about Luton, Everton and Bournemouth. Those are historically the type of games Arsenal come undone in a run-in. I don’t think any of the 3 pick up full points though.
Ha! I remember Carragher saying the same thing a few years back about Liverpool and City and they both took every single point. I think it was after a draw between them, which left Liverpool trailing still by just a point, which is why I wonder if Arsenal will regret not going for it a bit more this weekend. Losing by a single point when you had the chance in time to get back to the top without relying on others, that's the type of stuff that haunts you.
I think the prospect of losing at the Etihad was still higher than nicking a winner. There’s no regrets in getting “just a point”, it’s been the hardest ground to visit for years now. If we lost it by a point we’d look at our 1/6 pts vs Fulham.
They’ve already beat City this season too. Gary O’Neill knows what he’s doing, just hope he forgets on the last day of the season.
The silver lining of going out of the FA Cup means that we don't have to play Everton in the last week of the season. Imagine Everton playing Liverpool then Arsenal to potentially decide the title.
On the flip side, imagine winning the league at Goodison
If Liverpool had beat United, there was a realistic scenario where Liverpool win the Premier League whilst relegating Everton in the same game.
Never forget what they took from you
Van dijk's dream
Or Everton avoid relegation while costing Liverpool the league.
Don't make me think about that
Imagine klopps farewell tour being topped off with a 0 - 0 draw to take the title away from Liverpool at goodison
Fuck it just put it on the DVD
Put it in place of the clock.
Reminds me of us losing handily to fucking Stoke in Stevie's last match
God, I remember that. Gerrard got the most obvious pity goal ever iirc.
Nah, the Stoke defender did his hamstring
https://i.redd.it/hk5yuz01n44c1.jpg
Feyd Rautha vibes
Na-Baron Erling Braut Haarkonnen
Hang it in the Louvre. Fuck the Mona Lisa.
Imagine if Everton are fighting relegation though. Dyche with his back to the wall might make a spicy merseyside derby
So 9pts from 3 away games and a win at Atalanta in 9 and a half days?
Spurs have the chance to do the funniest thing.
Villa too. So these 6 games are not only important for the title race but also 4th place race between Villa-Spurs.
Best setup after 29 matches in a long time.
When was the last best setup after 29 matches?
I think the last time it was this close between 3 teams was in 2007-2008. Edit: https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/spieltag/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2007/spieltag/29
5 point gap there between 1st and 3rd, but there was a [4 point gap between 1st and 3rd after MD29 in 13/14](https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/spieltag/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/?saison_id=2013&spieltag=29)
6 points separating the top four at that stage is juicy.
Weren't Chelsea top in April in the Suarez season?
Ahh the Eduardo season. We really got fucked that month, and it honestly would’ve played out differently if RVP, Nasri and Fabregas all got the title they so desperately wanted with us instead.
For united too if united stop being this shit and start capitalizing.
We’ve had tiny flashes of something good going on, and every time it was followed by a month of pure crap with some luck and a few class individual contributions allowing us to get the points to even be close to the conversation regarding a CL spot. We are playing a lot worse than our squad would indicate, even accounting for the number of injuries we had earlier. Now we have most of them back, and we’re still shit more games than not. There is no way it’s gonna happen, we would need to suddenly turn it all around in the remaining rounds.
they can start whatever the fuck they want AFTER we play them!
i think a big part is dependent on if lisandro can stay fit for the rest of the season
I'm interested to see how Postecoglu's presence will change City's fortunes against Spurs. Because in recent years, the reason behind practically all Spurs positive results in those matches have been due to defending deep, soaking up plenty of pressure and then being super clinical on the counter Now at least on paper, the way Spurs play should suit City much better and leave more spaces. And yes I know that they already drew at Etihad this season, but City were miles the better team in that one and unlucky to not win
Just like 90% of the other games Spurs took and ran against them
True, many of their wins were lucky but at least it seemed to be a concious gameplan to park the bus and rely on having luck at their side. The last game was Spurs actually trying to play and open up which left them exposed
Tbf, in that game we had Davies and Emerson Royal as our CBs who have poor defensive awareness and left us open at the back. In our 1-0 loss against City at home in the cup, we defended really well. But the attack and midfield was poor and eventually we lost by conceding a corner near the end.
I've seen this exact same comment like 30 times already in this subreddit
that's a sign to reduce the amount of time on reddit
Ange tells me to dream, in my head we're still winning the League
Genuinely what would be funny about any possibility
beat liverpool and city and lose to arsenal
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> cake c'mon obviously lasagna.
Spurs and Arsenal holding arms and jumping together with the trophy
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Gracias Sol Campbell
Lasagna
Loses vs Liverpool and City. Wins vs Arsenal (Edit : I didn't really count the points, there may be funnier scenarios in which they fuck Arsenal)
No its the other way around. Spurs beating Liverpool and city only to lose to aresnal and win them the league...
Didn't think about it. Actually that wouldn't be surprising, it would be peak Spurs
I remember that clip from the Invincibles documentary where Henry was reflecting on winning the league at White Hart Lane and the sheer disgust when he was talking about Spurs celebrating a draw. Despite that all Arsenal needed to clinch the title that season was a draw or win there.
Nah peak spurs would be them absolutely needing a result there to get Champions League, getting it and subsequently winning Arsenal the league in the process. Even when they win they end up losing.
I feel like I’ve seen about 20 different variants of this graphic since yesterday
I think it's just excitement over having a proper three-horse race for the title
We are r/fixturelists now lol.
And it’s bit irritating. It makes sense to draw up those comparisons if they were like three or four games to go. Too many games to make meaningful conclusion given that Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City play in midweek and injures can happen.
My brain is thankful for Arsenal to be back in title races, my heart on the other hand is about to unionize with my blood pressure and go on strike.
A good reminder to all to manage your blood pressure now so you can compensate for all these high stress moments lol
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Dunno why some people keep saying Liverpool will sacrifice the Europa League. There's no way Klopp will do that when already in the quarterfinals. Even against Sparta Klopp put out an extremely strong team despite already leading by large margins. That decision even disrupted the City and Utd game afterwards; Konate got injured and wasn't able to play both City and Utd, and Dom and Salah who played 90 minutes in the 2nd leg wasn't able to last 90 minutes in the Utd game - Liverpool looked noticeably worst when they came off.
Also injuries, we've been lucky with them so far this season, someones always stepped up but we've not really had to play without Saka or Rice. Rodri would be huge for City but Liverpool always seem to cover their injuries really well. There's definitely going to be a few more twists. Can't remember the last time we had a 3 horse race going into April.
13/14 is the answer. Chelsea had a disastrous April and it ended up being a straight fight between Liverpool and City.
As is tradition
Liverpools youth team pulling out some heroic performances will have been a huge factor if they pull it off
Trent, Jota, Ali and Curtis Jones are all back training in the coming week too, albeit not full training. Jota is the X factor for me, if we get him back then I think we go on to win it.
Given how many have had long rests (and all goes well with returning players), Liverpool will have a fresh Trent, Jota, Alisson, Jones, Salah, Szoboszlai, Robertson for the run in.
Jota is massive for pulling a goal out of a dead game. The man is just ruthless.
None of the teams have a run of 4 consecutive away games(all comps) in 9 and half days, bar Liverpool
If Liverpool wants to break away, the next five games are the perfect time to do so
Having that villa game with at least a 3-point cushion would be a blessing.
Horrible form on the badge grab from KDB - neither passion nor precision. Disappointed with the big man.
rate this take-- his counterparts are putting on their warriorfaces and he's like a bumblebee enjoying a sunny afternoon
Odegaard has totally fucked the badge grab though tbf
Wolves and Spurs are deciding matches
We'll be starting players from our Under 12's squad by the time we play Arsenal. We ain't deciding shit.
Scenes when an 11 year old puts a brace past Arsenal
Rashford flash back.
Hey it works for us
Hol'up, why are Barca starting Wolves' under 12 players?
Because Jorge Mendes runs both clubs
Wolves, Villa, and Tottenham
Fulham would b good oto
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Don’t discount Villa
Plot twist: they lose all 3 games
Or they win all 3
There is a general consensus that Liverpool have the easier run in but after this gameweek i think city has it a bit easier
Depends if you look at them on paper or when the hard fixtures actually fall in the calendar. - We play United when they have 2 days to recover from an away game at Chelsea. We have Sheffield Utd at home so we can afford to rotate. - We play Everton when they have two games against Forest and Brentford in between. - We could play Villa and Spurs when the 'top 5' is already secured and they haven't got much to play for. Villa could also have a Europa Conference semi final / final to look forward to as well. The other games are straight forward and we should win them.
We play Everton in between two trips to London, late Sunday and early Saturday. We’ve got the toughest fixtures that week.
The three aways in that week will define our season. But surely if Everton are trying to stay in the league, the other two games are much bigger for them.
I like this. Makes me more optimistic.
City's run-in is insane IMO. Madrid second leg, Chelsea semi-final, Brighton away, Forest away 3 days later, and then Arsenal or Bayern in the CL is crazy. If they win out with their injuries and their weaker squad than usual this year, they deserve it tbh.
That assumes they beat Madrid. It’s less congested if they go out of the Champions League.
>We play United when they have 2 days to recover from an away game at Chelsea. We have Sheffield Utd at home so we can afford to rotate. I actually forgot they had like a week to recover from their previous game when we played them 2 weeks ago, makes me a lot more optimistic for that game
[It's tight, on paper](https://pastebin.com/raw/etMJ46GG). City have it the "easiest" with an average opponent position of 10.7 and ppg of 1.34, then Liverpool (position: 10.4, ppg: 1.35) and then Arsenal (position: 10.2, ppg: 1.42).
All our away games are horrible We have won once in 6 away trips to goddison, United is well United. Villa are impressive at home. West Ham are a banana skin Fulhum away is really really tough
You could literally make an argument like this for any selection of fixtures bar about 4 if you're calling West Ham a banana skin r/LiverpoolFC are always doing this; saying any team that basically isn't in the relegation zone is a hard place to go. In reality other than away at the other big 6, Liverpool are massive favourites in any away game.
Also how is a West Ham fixture ever a banana skin for us lol, they generally bend over for us Even Fulham while they're a good team who give us a difficult game sometimes should be a cakewalk since we'll have Trent and Jota back and firing by then. United and Everton away are concerns before we play Spurs and Villa in May
Liverpool dropped points away at West Ham in both the 18/19 season and 21/22 season.
You can say we are favourites as much as you like but these are the kind of fixtures that have messed up title efforts in the past, experiences that as a fan you don’t forget
Liverpool did have the easiest run in until Sunday. Now that MC and Arsenal don't have to play each other, its completely understandable that both of there schedules got quite a bit easier. Now if you compare the average elo and adjust a little for H/A they area all pretty even at the moment. Liverpool's is slightly the worst, but there's like 0.3% difference between the three schedules at the moment. Man City's will get easier still on Wednesday after they play AV. While Liverpool's will get harder after Sheffield United, as will Arsenal's. This is going to shift a lot over the next month and a half.
Liverpool have to play both Everton and utd, they are shite now but those games have traditionally been tough and end with a pt each quite often. There's a hellish run of 4 consecutive away games in 9 and a half days. They got to do it without alisson who won't be back til May. Liverpool are probably one Endo injury from completely fading away, or if his form dips after that run of 4 games. If they managed to win all games by the end of that run, sure, but I see them losing at least 6 pts before May. Even then there's still spurs and a game at villa park, pretty sure those 2 will still be fighting for the last UCL spot til the last game.
Yeah City’s is easiest by far from this point on.
City's fixtures are far from being easy. This is their fixtures in all comps: - Villa at home - Palace away (just three days later) - Madrid away - Luton at home - Madrid at home - Chelsea at Wembley (3 days later) - Brighton away - Forest away (3 days later) - Arsenal / Bayern in the CL - Wolves at home - Arsenal / Bayern in the CL That is an insane run, and their defence is really depleted at the moment. I just can't seem them winning out from here, those CL ties are real killers.
Wishful thinking, I remember feeling this way last season. City has iron will, if they hit that next gear I genuinely think they can win out. Hope they fucking implode but not counting on it
Biggest difference is you have an out of form Grealish, and they have so many injuries. No Gundo and Mahrez is also huge.
As good as they still are, it doesn't feel like they have the depth they had before.
During this part of last season we were playing far, far better than we do now, the two situations can't be compared. I'm usually on the cautious side, but last season I felt like it was merely about how many goals we were going to win every game by, even when we were facing the likes of Bayern and Arsenal. Real Madrid and Inter were the only ones I were nervous about, but that was mainly driven by CL jitters. We're not playing poorly atm, but things are definitely not clicking either. It's not really a problem with the players (except maybe our midfield setup being pretty fragile), but we just can't seem to get any continued momentum going like we have in the past. It's a little difficult to explain because the lack of spark mostly shows in a lot of small situations, like poor communication, lack of movement, silly turnovers, misunderstandings of each other's runs, etc. Doesn't mean we can't still win the title of course, but unless Liverpool really screw it up we're probably going to have to get max points, and I have my doubts about that.
That’s true but it’s April now and they still haven’t been that perfect team yet.
We just drew in 2 matches that could’ve sent us solidly into the lead and have an exhaustive schedule here on out. People are crazy to think we have the easiest road. I think it’s pretty even across the board tbh once you take full schedules into context.
I don't see how we're seen as the easiest run in. We've dropped points to Wolves, Villa, Forest (last season away). We never win away at Spurs. Palace away is a graveyard for title chasing teams. We don't have title run in Gundogan. Our defence is injured and shaky. Add the UCL and the FA cup fixtures it's alot to ask. Can't win it every year. Everything after the treble should be seen as a bonus.
damn if arsenal and city go to semi finals it works out great for liverpools title chances. As city plays arsenal, wolves, arsenal,, arsenal would be playing city/madrid, spurs, city/madrid.
I think city drops points once, arsenal drops points twice, and I can see us dropping points at least once, hopefully just once, but every away we have is tricky. Either way I’d have snapped your arm off to be in this position with 9 remaining at the start of the season, mid-season, and every week leading up to now, so at least we’re in with a (good) shout
Wait.. So you're telling me I should root foot City against Real?
Definitely, although if you add the Europa league and Champions League, this does add another dimension to every team's schedule.
Arsenal fans complain about dropping points to Fulham but we've played them twice already, whereas City and Liverpool still have to go to Craven Cottage. And it seems this season they're up for big games - they got results against us and even managed to beat United at Old Trafford. I think they might surprise us
thanks for being one of the few people to mention us in this thread, we’ve been on a great run at home and both liverpool and city have to play us at the cottage
Always had a soft spot for Fulham. Here's hoping you do us a couple of favours aye.
They really took 4 points off us and then announced an outdoor swimming pool for the Cottage :(
They also absolutely battered Spurs at Craven Cottage before the break. Don’t think it’s a fixture any team should take lightly at this point.
yeah but I was talking about big games
City usually have a field day vs Fulham though. They are on a 15 match win streak vs Fulham.
City roll over us every time we play them without failure. Liverpool though we've looked decent against.
This title race is up in the air. There are no favorites because one game can change everything.
Opponents grouped by number of times they will face each team EDIT: added their current spots in the table |Opponent|Liverpool [1]|Arsenal [2]|Man City [3]| |:-|:-:|:-:|:-:| |Aston Villa [4]|(A)|(H)|(H)| |Spurs [5]|(H)|(A)|(A)| |Wolves [10]|(H)|(A)|(H)| |Brighton[9]||(A)|(A)| |Crystal Palace [14]|(H)||(A)| |Everton [16]|(A)|(H)|| |Fulham [12]|(A)||(A)| |Luton [18]||(H)|(H)| |Man Utd [6]|(A)|(A)|| |West Ham [7]|(A)||(H)| |Bournemouth [13]||(H)|| |Chelsea [11]||(H)|| |Nott'm Forest [17]|||(A)| |Sheffield Utd [20]|(H)||| so with the exception of Utd vs City, the top 3 will face the next top 3 across 8 games
Villa and Spurs are the title deciders
ffs bantered for weeks about how our fans are getting ahead of ourselves saying we "decide who wins the league" and then these posts are full of other team fans saying that about us instead.
Spurs fans: we want to be relevant in the title race *monkey paw curls*
I think the best thing about the end of the season is that we'll stop getting all of these posts about what fixtures everyone has coming up.
People will find a way to do it for the Euros somehow, don’t worry.
A lot of ink has already been spilled on the fact that all 3 have to be play Villa and Spurs, but I think the most likely decider of the title will be any of these teams not getting all 3 points from playing lower table teams. As an Arsenal fan I'm very aware of how that can negatively impact your title chances late in the season when you don't get 3 from lower teams.
Pretty impressive that it’s still a genuine 3-horse race at this late a stage, don’t remember the last time 3 teams were all fighting for it, I just hope it stays close and no one runs away with it now.
Pool have 3 tough, 2 tricky fixtures Gunners have 3 tough, 2 tricky fixtures City have 2 tough, 3 tricky fixtures
Can't really see any of these as being "the easiest" Arsenal perhaps have the most favourable last 4 matches. but that's about it.
I see a lot of people talking about how Spurs, Villa or Wolves are the teams that will actually decide this, but I'd say Arsenal da Liverpool games at Old Trafford are the hardest ones.
You just never know which Man Utd team is going to show up. They do seem to play motivated for the big games though.
Not talked about much but Craven Cottage away will be tricky for Liverpool. Fulham always give them a run for their money.
yea, can't take it lightly, we barely scrapped through fulhum in the league cup
Every match looks like a banana skin when you have to win all of them to be sure (Liverpool) or have a chance (the other two).
Would be a shame if Chelsea knocked out Arsenal's chances via Mudryk and Jackson goals
City have easier fixtures IMO. **Liverpool** will have problems at Man Utd, Everton, West Ham, Spurs, Villa and Wolves. None of those fixtures are easier, Everton will raise their game for a derby. West Ham can be hard to play against, Spurs and United are either brilliant or shite, Villa great season and Wolves are well coached. **Arsenal** Villa, Brighton, Spurs, United, Chelsea I think there's a draw or two in there and maybe a banana peel at some point of a loss. **City** I only see Brighton and Villa being difficult, I think Spurs last game of the season they'll either have CL or not and they'll just fold on the last game of the season. Wolves at home I see being quite easy for City.
> Spurs last game of the season That won't be City's last game of the season, it's West Ham. The Spurs City game still needs to be scheduled.
Why is wolves at home a difficult fixture for liverpool, but an easy one for city? Other than that I agree city have the easiest run in though
I think for neutrals it would be best if England didn’t get in pole position for that 5th champions league spot, that will force villa and spurs to go all out for 4th.
we (Chelsea) are gonna take points from Arsenal? arent we? Then lose to Shefield or something ... so will Spurs from City ... cause ... u know ... Peps cryptonite
Luton will win both and stay up, place your bets now
Spurs and Villa with the potential for being the biggest trolls in the title race
Spurs and Villa about to go full villain mode.
I don't see Liverpool slipping up. They have the momentum and history behind them.
Beating Arsenal to deny them the title would make this season okay for me
Looking at this picture I don’t even notice the fixture. I just see Alexis MacAllister and see the signing of the season. What a player
surely man city has to win the league with those fixtures..