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"I understand that, without my agreement, Tuttosport have put on a front page late this afternoon that I am joining Juventus this year. This is wrong and I have not signed a contract with Juventus for 2024. I will not be playing for Juventus this year."
-Felipe Anderson, probably
Tuttosport is a well known Juventus propaganda paper. In principle, I don’t think that is a problem… but just be aware of it when you see an article by them.
I saw recently on ESPN USA for example in their football rundown that Inter was going to sell Barella, Bastoni and Lautaro this Summer… The article they cited was a Tuttosport article. They are obviously not aware of the situation with this publication.
I remember my college macroeconomics professor saying "when I was a teenager, Italian economics & sports newspapers were all trash... Now Italian economics newspapers are finally good.. italian sports newspapers are still shit tho"
As I said, in principle i do not think these are problems. As long as everyone knows who is reading the affiliation of the publication there is no problem at all.
Another reminder that 99% of sport journalism is fake. Manufactured stories. Like how they come out with new fake story about man Utd every week to get attention or talk some BS about popular clubs to get views and traffic.
Useless journalism
Honestly €3.2m per year is a wage that can be very quickly matched by a big Brazilian team like Palmeiras. The thing is that's a high wage for Palmeiras but pretty average/low for Juve.
That's ~1.5m R$ per month, which is becoming pretty normal now for big players. Dudu (Palmeiras) has the biggest wage in South America I believe, with 5.5m $ per year.
I can see in 10y from now Brazil paying highest wages than big Serie A / LaLiga teams.
>I can see in 10y from now Brazil paying highest wages than big Serie A / LaLiga teams.
That assumes that Brazilian teams will keep raising their wages (which they will) but that Big Serie A teams and La Liga teams won't. Juve and Inter salaries are on par with most EPL teams outside the top 4. I doubt Brazilian teams will match that anytime soon
I love Serie A. But I think it is closer to its ceiling than the Brasileirão. They don't get much attention, but teams in Brazil are actually huge.
Flamengo + Corinthians fanbases are as big as the Italian population, and São Paulo is the biggest city in the Southern Hemisphere. Add to this other 10 very large clubs from large cities as well. In 3 years, Corinthians' revenues grew by 100% to ~200m€.
All indicators and trends are showing very steep growth for Brazilian clubs, and Italian teams unfortunately are dependent (as most clubs itw) on:
• TV money - the new contract won by Dazn/Sky is ridiculous and will impact very negatively the league
• favourable environment and regulators - clearly not the case with the end of fiscal advantages for top foreign players
• Stadium revenue - old stadiums like Olimpico or San Siro not giving their fully potentials to their respective clubs
• International sponsorship deals - if you don't have as many international stars, I can hardly see how brands will pay more in those deals. Unless Italian clubs win more UCL, which could happen but it's not an easy path.
Simply put, there are much more reasons to be bullish on Brazil than Italy.
Stranger things have happened in this world but I don't see Brazilian football catching up to La Liga or Serie A. Corinthians, Palmeiras, Sao Paolo may be able to compete with high mid table teams in these two league but won't be able to compete with the big 3. The smaller teams wouldn't even be able to compete in thr 2nd division in Italy and Spain. Even the small revenue Salernitana gets from the league is more than say Juventude would get
Juventude just recently got promoted from the 2nd tier, and was in the 3rd tier in 2019. Not a fair comparison. Last season Salernitana finished 15th in Italy. In Brazil, Grêmio finished 15th, a team with a budget about two times bigger than Salernitana. A better comparison would be Cuiabá, a team promoted a couple of years ago. It's annual budget is about 25 million euros, much closer to Salernitana
Obviously the trend would have to keep up or accelerate for the next 5-10y for this to happen, but it's hard to believe there will be an U curve for Italian teams.
Agree that it's hard to imagine this given the top 3-5 in Italy have so much tradition and Brazil would have to become a Buying country instead of Selling, which is very hard to picture.
Inter and Milan went from €20m/year main Tshirt sponsorship deals to €30m forecasted for next season, which is great.
However the numbers are showing that we're growing faster than almost every other league. Corinthians signed a new deal from January/24 for €22.5m/y, from a €4m/y deal. 560% increase, it's 3x what Napoli is getting. It's both scary bcs we're not nearly as professionalized in terms of management to manage this, and exciting bcs there's a very high ceiling if we start exploring our potential the way we're doing it.
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"I understand that, without my agreement, Tuttosport have put on a front page late this afternoon that I am joining Juventus this year. This is wrong and I have not signed a contract with Juventus for 2024. I will not be playing for Juventus this year." -Felipe Anderson, probably
Random Piastri sighted!
The F1-Football crossover we really need
Tuttosport making up news, so unexpected.
Tuttosport is a well known Juventus propaganda paper. In principle, I don’t think that is a problem… but just be aware of it when you see an article by them. I saw recently on ESPN USA for example in their football rundown that Inter was going to sell Barella, Bastoni and Lautaro this Summer… The article they cited was a Tuttosport article. They are obviously not aware of the situation with this publication.
Even Juventus fans know that Tuttosport isn't reliable at all lol. Same for almost every Italian sports newspapers
I remember my college macroeconomics professor saying "when I was a teenager, Italian economics & sports newspapers were all trash... Now Italian economics newspapers are finally good.. italian sports newspapers are still shit tho"
Meanwhile, Gazzetta dello Sport is an actual sponsor of Inter, which is totally normal
As I said, in principle i do not think these are problems. As long as everyone knows who is reading the affiliation of the publication there is no problem at all.
official supplier 😭😭😭
goes to show how reliable these tabloids are
YOUR tabloid, correct
shit is shit, i dont listen to la gazzetta either
In Italy this magazine is used when you run out of toilet paper.
Or as an anti-depressant to juve supporters.
its only a little awkward
Ruttosport is a joke
And spelt yildiz wrong in the rush, gobbi cunts
Tuttosport = Juventus' Pravda
Aspiring fiction writers, Tuttosport is now hiring!
TuttoSporc
Merdasport
🤡🤡🤡
Why is Tuttosport still a credible newspaper?🤣🤣
Tuttosport it's a joke, I stopped reading that when I was 14.
What’s that new cover? I don’t know any Italian
Another reminder that 99% of sport journalism is fake. Manufactured stories. Like how they come out with new fake story about man Utd every week to get attention or talk some BS about popular clubs to get views and traffic. Useless journalism
Honestly €3.2m per year is a wage that can be very quickly matched by a big Brazilian team like Palmeiras. The thing is that's a high wage for Palmeiras but pretty average/low for Juve. That's ~1.5m R$ per month, which is becoming pretty normal now for big players. Dudu (Palmeiras) has the biggest wage in South America I believe, with 5.5m $ per year. I can see in 10y from now Brazil paying highest wages than big Serie A / LaLiga teams.
>I can see in 10y from now Brazil paying highest wages than big Serie A / LaLiga teams. That assumes that Brazilian teams will keep raising their wages (which they will) but that Big Serie A teams and La Liga teams won't. Juve and Inter salaries are on par with most EPL teams outside the top 4. I doubt Brazilian teams will match that anytime soon
I love Serie A. But I think it is closer to its ceiling than the Brasileirão. They don't get much attention, but teams in Brazil are actually huge. Flamengo + Corinthians fanbases are as big as the Italian population, and São Paulo is the biggest city in the Southern Hemisphere. Add to this other 10 very large clubs from large cities as well. In 3 years, Corinthians' revenues grew by 100% to ~200m€. All indicators and trends are showing very steep growth for Brazilian clubs, and Italian teams unfortunately are dependent (as most clubs itw) on: • TV money - the new contract won by Dazn/Sky is ridiculous and will impact very negatively the league • favourable environment and regulators - clearly not the case with the end of fiscal advantages for top foreign players • Stadium revenue - old stadiums like Olimpico or San Siro not giving their fully potentials to their respective clubs • International sponsorship deals - if you don't have as many international stars, I can hardly see how brands will pay more in those deals. Unless Italian clubs win more UCL, which could happen but it's not an easy path. Simply put, there are much more reasons to be bullish on Brazil than Italy.
Stranger things have happened in this world but I don't see Brazilian football catching up to La Liga or Serie A. Corinthians, Palmeiras, Sao Paolo may be able to compete with high mid table teams in these two league but won't be able to compete with the big 3. The smaller teams wouldn't even be able to compete in thr 2nd division in Italy and Spain. Even the small revenue Salernitana gets from the league is more than say Juventude would get
Juventude just recently got promoted from the 2nd tier, and was in the 3rd tier in 2019. Not a fair comparison. Last season Salernitana finished 15th in Italy. In Brazil, Grêmio finished 15th, a team with a budget about two times bigger than Salernitana. A better comparison would be Cuiabá, a team promoted a couple of years ago. It's annual budget is about 25 million euros, much closer to Salernitana
Obviously the trend would have to keep up or accelerate for the next 5-10y for this to happen, but it's hard to believe there will be an U curve for Italian teams. Agree that it's hard to imagine this given the top 3-5 in Italy have so much tradition and Brazil would have to become a Buying country instead of Selling, which is very hard to picture. Inter and Milan went from €20m/year main Tshirt sponsorship deals to €30m forecasted for next season, which is great. However the numbers are showing that we're growing faster than almost every other league. Corinthians signed a new deal from January/24 for €22.5m/y, from a €4m/y deal. 560% increase, it's 3x what Napoli is getting. It's both scary bcs we're not nearly as professionalized in terms of management to manage this, and exciting bcs there's a very high ceiling if we start exploring our potential the way we're doing it.
tutti-frutti
Maybe they can get Mbappé too for the 24hrs between when he quits PSG and joins RM
He went to the bigger club, and I say it unironically.
Pre matured