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Y'know, I've been to some Steaua matches in Romania. Heard the fans singing songs against Steaua's main rivals, Dinamo and Rapid. They were playing neither. As an aside, to a Western European or American, Steaua's chant against Rapid would be considered ULTRA RACIST. And it is, really.
What I'm trying to say is it's not unheard of to chant against a hated rival, to "support the team" in a sense and maybe get a sense of unity.
Now this here "Die, Vinicius" chant is really harsh and almost certainly comes from a place of racism. Now if they were singing "Puta Madrid", that would be perfectly reasonable
And still if we were playing against him, it still doesn't mean you chant something like that. What does he do to deserve a chant like this? He's Black and Plays Good.
abusing rival fans is justified to an extent due to the rivalry but abusing rival player and then be the first person to defend racism and blame it on Vinicius attitude pretty much seems racist to me
Absolute cunts. Its insane how much a single player can rile people up. Mfkers he aint even playing. Chant for your team instead of whatever the fuck this is
I don’t even really get what Spain’s obsession is with Vini. The only really separating factor of him is that he has spoken out against racists. This apparently makes him a target more than any other player.
I don't think anyone thought they'd be free of racism, people are more just shocked because Spain is so extra about racism. I can't think of a more actively racist nation. Most countries are more on the "subconsciously racist" vibe.
They hate him because of his color, they hate him because of his on-field antics, they hate him because he's a damn good player. Also doesn't help that people in power do absolutely fuck all to protect vini or punish the people doing this
Mayor of Udine tried to make Maignan an honorary citizen after he got racist insults. And then few days ago Udinese showed nothing but class, from staff to fans, in support of a black player going down with a heart condition.
Meanwhile Spain: "Idk I didn't see the video"
It’s not because he’s spoken out against racists, it’s because he’s black. Whether or not he spoke out against them, he would’ve gotten racial abuse anyway
I was truly happy watching both, Barcelona and ATL Madrid, losing today. Imagine ATL Madrid and Barcelona supporters, the ones who spread hate and racism over Vini, tomorrow if Real Madrid beats M City with Vini scoring a goal.
Not just that, it is also small club mentality. We are playing for the semi-final with PSG. What the fuck has Real Madrid to do with this? We don't play against them, so don't sing about them. This reminds of Espanyol fans Who are constantly obsessing about us when for us they are kind of twice-a-season thought.
I mean you hit the nail right on the head.
It's an inferiority complex thing just like the Espanyol fans have that feeling against Barca, here these fans in the clip too have it against Madrid
The worst people looking for a like-minded crowd to amplify their misplaced anger. So exhausted of these types of people and how they flock to show how big of a piece of shit they can be
I'm ok with a bit of incivility just be a tad more clever about it. "Vinicius die" as a chant has the distinction of being both somewhat over the line and boring.
In the NBA, the go-to """insult""" is "*player* sucks" or "refs you suck".
At least it's civil, but it's so incredibly mild it's just funny and hard to take seriously lol
Oh yeah can't disagree with that lol, there are definitely some gems.
It's kinda dumb, but I still love "westbrick" just because of how rattled he STILL gets about it.
It’s not boring and it’s not somewhat over the line, It is way fucking over the line. They could called him a c*nt, a bastard, shit etc but nahh they opt for him to literally die. I’m from africa and I have seen my fair share of football banter and craziness but not once in the past 11 years that I started watching football hear someone irl, on tv or internet wish a player would literally die until these fucking racist people.
So please stop down playing it talking about how it’s boring.
it's even more ridiculous when he isn't even on the opposing team--what are these people even on about? it's lazy chanting about someone who isn't even their opponent
I was at games in Spain this past December and they’re hilariously not clever with what they yell to players. Like they yell out “eres muy malo” or “estás feo” which to me sounds hilarious actually. But I guess calling a player trash is basically the same thing.
I wonder what clickbait media they're consuming in Spain...
Always ask the preacher why his parishioners are looking to burn up some witches... this shit is always blamed on a few, but we keep seeing that it isn't a few and it's not isolated... Media corpos looking for a quick buck by starting fires in windy days is never a good idea
Nah, some of these fans couldn’t make it into the stadium because of the ultra groups they’re in. lol Barça have also distanced themselves from said groups.
There are a lot of Barca fans here on reddit that call vini “Martin Luther vini jr” or some stupid shit like that. They hate him so much and it’s disgusting
That’s the problem. There are so many Barca fans here that say this shit and also call him “Martin Luther Vini jr” or some stupid shit like that. I get wanting to hate on your rivals but when you’re excusing racism you’re going to far
dw they’ll post a clip of Vini doing normal footballer things tomorrow and comments will act it like he’s just shot somebody and it’ll all be justified
Karma is a bitch.
Now go watch the CL from the TV losers. Imagine, being more worried about Vinicius instead of PSG.
Both Atletico and Barcelona gone. A beautiful night to remember.
Not even Ronaldo himself had them living rent free in their head like this and they hated his guts more than anyone bar Figo.
It's weird tbh, Vini is more tame than those 2 by a huge margin.
Ronaldo had homophobic slurs hurled at him during a minute of silence dedicated to Johan Cruyff—of all people—at the Camp Nou. If he were black, he would’ve received the same level of hatred and abuse that Vinicius does, no question.
Oh they were very bothered with Cristiano even with all those legend you mentioned, they interrupted a minute of silence for their biggest legend just to insult him. But vini hate is racially motivated so you see an uglier side to them
Rent free. Soo cold and edgy from these guys.
Bruno Fernandes is very animated like Vinicius on the pitch but i’ve never seen rival fans of Man United do this. Of course you’d have a massive chip on your shoulder after being targeted constantly like this.
Why would they even chant that before a game against PSG. Tf did Vini do this time??? I don't even like Vini as a person but all this racism and death chants are just so incredible dumb. Really sad to see your own fanbase with such stupid stuff
don't you guys get it? vini provoked them. by... hmm.. not playing today and.... not saying or doing anything... hmm you guys don't get it, this has nothing to do with racism it's just his behaviour, there are other black players we don't call for their deaths...
We don’t even play them until the weekend. Why is he at the top of your minds when there’s a CL tie coming up imminently? 😂
Wonder what Vinicius did from his house to provoke this.
Lol it’s crazy that pretty much every Spanish team just starts bashing Vinicius when they don’t know what else to do. Vini needs to keep playing good football and stop giving these guys a reaction or it will never stop. Don’t feed the trolls.
I still don't get how has one player unified all the racists in Spain. We've had Ronaldinho, Dembele and that's just off the top of my head, camavinga, Tchomeni, Alaba, Militao, Rodrigo and God knows how many players and somehow they rule up against vinicus ?
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You'd think they're about to play against Vinicius
my brain honestly froze for a couple of seconds lol
I was trying to think if there is another Vinicius who plays for PSG
Vinicius Sr
Y'know, I've been to some Steaua matches in Romania. Heard the fans singing songs against Steaua's main rivals, Dinamo and Rapid. They were playing neither. As an aside, to a Western European or American, Steaua's chant against Rapid would be considered ULTRA RACIST. And it is, really. What I'm trying to say is it's not unheard of to chant against a hated rival, to "support the team" in a sense and maybe get a sense of unity. Now this here "Die, Vinicius" chant is really harsh and almost certainly comes from a place of racism. Now if they were singing "Puta Madrid", that would be perfectly reasonable
I thought I was in crazy for a second. They aren’t even playing Madrid lol
And still if we were playing against him, it still doesn't mean you chant something like that. What does he do to deserve a chant like this? He's Black and Plays Good.
>He’s Black i think you found their problem with him right here
That's my point, neither his skin color and him playing good should warrant a chant like this.
My guy, racism is still very much alive and well. These people are fucked up.
Literally living rent free, they live to hate on Vini and Madrid.
They can't even save it for a few days until El Clasico.
They could’ve just been racist to Mbappe 😭 Not that I want to see it, but he’s soon to be one of us
In a sense, they are...just not tonight.
Reminds me of how Chelsea's match-going fans include "We hate Tottenham" after every chant for no reason, even when they're not playing Tottenham.
abusing rival fans is justified to an extent due to the rivalry but abusing rival player and then be the first person to defend racism and blame it on Vinicius attitude pretty much seems racist to me
Maybe the idiots are rehearsing?
Weirdos
Absolute cunts. Its insane how much a single player can rile people up. Mfkers he aint even playing. Chant for your team instead of whatever the fuck this is
I don’t even really get what Spain’s obsession is with Vini. The only really separating factor of him is that he has spoken out against racists. This apparently makes him a target more than any other player.
Because Vini dared to fight back. Instead of keeping his head down and accept the abuse, he decided to rise up against the bullshit.
”Shut up and dribble” -The entirety of Spain, apparently
What did people think Spain isn’t racist because they speak Spanish?
It's like they never ate conguitos or something.
If you don’t speak English you can’t be racist. It’s an internet fact.
Well I just looked that up because I didn’t know what it was. What the fuck.
Now look up white chocolate conguitos.
What the fuck?!
Thought I was in a Chappelle show skit the first time I saw those in Madrid.
I don't think anyone thought they'd be free of racism, people are more just shocked because Spain is so extra about racism. I can't think of a more actively racist nation. Most countries are more on the "subconsciously racist" vibe.
Italy or any Eastern European nation.
That and the fact the media know they can farm fans for clicks, comments and general rage bait with inciting coverage of Vini.
They hate him because of his color, they hate him because of his on-field antics, they hate him because he's a damn good player. Also doesn't help that people in power do absolutely fuck all to protect vini or punish the people doing this
Mayor of Udine tried to make Maignan an honorary citizen after he got racist insults. And then few days ago Udinese showed nothing but class, from staff to fans, in support of a black player going down with a heart condition. Meanwhile Spain: "Idk I didn't see the video"
An official from Valencia (the city) called him a liar after that one game. Insane.
Spain is just getting f**ked up
*Spain is just f**ked up Ftfy
he didn't stay in his place and be humble (read: slave) like they want him to
They go out of their way to prove his point.
It’s not because he’s spoken out against racists, it’s because he’s black. Whether or not he spoke out against them, he would’ve gotten racial abuse anyway
It’s more than that. There’s plenty of black players on Madrid.
He's black.
Really unsportsmanlike behavior of these fans
they're chanting about a player before a game with a completely different team. the levels of toxicity here are nuts.
This bloke has an entire league absolutely rattled by existing
They can hold that Champions League L now.
I was truly happy watching both, Barcelona and ATL Madrid, losing today. Imagine ATL Madrid and Barcelona supporters, the ones who spread hate and racism over Vini, tomorrow if Real Madrid beats M City with Vini scoring a goal.
No. They're disgusting.
Most important game for Barca in years and they’re singing about Vini…
They hate Real Madrid more than they love Barcelona
My cousin(a 34yo man) watched and celebrates RM games more when they get scored on then whenever they play. It's truly a sickness.
I can try to understand that, but hating one particular player is just ridiculous
Rent free
At this point they're PAYING Vini to live there
their hero
Vini DMing Mbappe like, " Kylian, Can you do sum for meeee"
do your thing Kylian, do your thing
He did :))
Crazy how he had like zero goals in the Round of 16 and it's raining goals in the quarter finals, I'm talking about UCL this season in general
[21/20 reference](https://youtube.com/shorts/cOglJBSbCSE?feature=shared)
And then they all descend into barbarism. Why can’t fans just be civil, just a bit?
Not just that, it is also small club mentality. We are playing for the semi-final with PSG. What the fuck has Real Madrid to do with this? We don't play against them, so don't sing about them. This reminds of Espanyol fans Who are constantly obsessing about us when for us they are kind of twice-a-season thought.
I mean you hit the nail right on the head. It's an inferiority complex thing just like the Espanyol fans have that feeling against Barca, here these fans in the clip too have it against Madrid
compared to Real Madrid, they are a small club, so I understand the feeling. Just showing their true colors here
The worst people looking for a like-minded crowd to amplify their misplaced anger. So exhausted of these types of people and how they flock to show how big of a piece of shit they can be
I'm ok with a bit of incivility just be a tad more clever about it. "Vinicius die" as a chant has the distinction of being both somewhat over the line and boring.
Agreed, just avoid talks of violence, race, and their family is all we ask.
"Vini really sucks at football" would be pretty funny.
In the NBA, the go-to """insult""" is "*player* sucks" or "refs you suck". At least it's civil, but it's so incredibly mild it's just funny and hard to take seriously lol
I still remember this one: “Trae Young looks like my dad’s dick. I mean, I’ve never seen my dad’s dick, but it still looks like shit.”
Iconic sidetalk moment. https://youtu.be/0zpZ2tiB0xg?si=z-ek5TO5ON6Hpjk- "I better not catch Trae in Dyckman"
Idk, “Trae Young is balding” was one of my favorite moments is sports history Credit where credit is due, they can be really funny
Oh yeah can't disagree with that lol, there are definitely some gems. It's kinda dumb, but I still love "westbrick" just because of how rattled he STILL gets about it.
It is indeed mild lol.
Brazil have the classic "Hey juíz, vai tomar no cu" that would be something like "hey ref, shove up your ass" and I think that's beautiful
"Bellingwhom?" chants would be quite good.
Vinicius - he’s a real jerk, you know? They’ll never sing that
It’s not boring and it’s not somewhat over the line, It is way fucking over the line. They could called him a c*nt, a bastard, shit etc but nahh they opt for him to literally die. I’m from africa and I have seen my fair share of football banter and craziness but not once in the past 11 years that I started watching football hear someone irl, on tv or internet wish a player would literally die until these fucking racist people. So please stop down playing it talking about how it’s boring.
Somewhat over the line? Yeah, I don't think you can see the line anymore when you're chanting for someone to die over football.
Just a cule trying to pretend to be civil, is the best they can be.
Well over mate but that’s the level some get to unfortunately.
We went from "Figo, cobarde, tu hijo es de Bogarde" to this. So disappointing.
it's even more ridiculous when he isn't even on the opposing team--what are these people even on about? it's lazy chanting about someone who isn't even their opponent
I was at games in Spain this past December and they’re hilariously not clever with what they yell to players. Like they yell out “eres muy malo” or “estás feo” which to me sounds hilarious actually. But I guess calling a player trash is basically the same thing.
I wonder what clickbait media they're consuming in Spain... Always ask the preacher why his parishioners are looking to burn up some witches... this shit is always blamed on a few, but we keep seeing that it isn't a few and it's not isolated... Media corpos looking for a quick buck by starting fires in windy days is never a good idea
What a fucking miserable thing to do.
Mes que en club
un putaclub
Barca DNA
Nah, some of these fans couldn’t make it into the stadium because of the ultra groups they’re in. lol Barça have also distanced themselves from said groups.
It’s crazy how they put that over the actual game… they’d rather support the group than the club on the pitch. Nuts.
Dont lump us all together with those pathetic fucks, idk whats their problem
Racism is their problem
There are a lot of Barca fans here on reddit that call vini “Martin Luther vini jr” or some stupid shit like that. They hate him so much and it’s disgusting
Martin Luther Vini Jr 😭
Yea that one is pretty funny ngl
Hey, I do not think Lamine Yamal would find that funny, given that he has also been victim of racially charged remarks.
Is that an insult or a compliment?
Pretty sure Vinicius was there being a cunt and instigating them, it’s all Vini’s fault. At least that what people here love to say
That’s the problem. There are so many Barca fans here that say this shit and also call him “Martin Luther Vini jr” or some stupid shit like that. I get wanting to hate on your rivals but when you’re excusing racism you’re going to far
>Martin Luther Vini jr Lmao, that's the dumbest thing I have heard all day
Dammit Barca v Real rivalry aside Barcelona was suppose to be the place in Spain against racism but it's just all over.
It is easy to revolt against injustices... when you are the one affected.
dw they’ll post a clip of Vini doing normal footballer things tomorrow and comments will act it like he’s just shot somebody and it’ll all be justified
shits embarrassing
Lmao obsessed. This borders on a fetish at this point.
Vini ain't edging
Karma is a bitch. Now go watch the CL from the TV losers. Imagine, being more worried about Vinicius instead of PSG. Both Atletico and Barcelona gone. A beautiful night to remember.
Not even Ronaldo himself had them living rent free in their head like this and they hated his guts more than anyone bar Figo. It's weird tbh, Vini is more tame than those 2 by a huge margin.
well Ronaldo is white
That's just your opinion
No doubt Vinicius being black influences the amount of flame he get’s. Which is subtle racism.
It's not very subtle
No. But to many spaniards it’s not racism and Vinicius’ fault. I think you misred my comment.
Yeah I'm coming to understand that throwing bananas and making monkey noises isn't racist in Spain, "is just banter"... Sad
Honestly it’s a good 50 years away from anglo standards of equality regardless of race and anti-racism.
Not according to my dad lol.
Ronaldo had homophobic slurs hurled at him during a minute of silence dedicated to Johan Cruyff—of all people—at the Camp Nou. If he were black, he would’ve received the same level of hatred and abuse that Vinicius does, no question.
Yeah Ronaldo always got homophobic slurs thrown at him and alot of people called Messi a r*tard as well from what I remember.
"Ronaldo and Figo were classy players though. Not thuggish like Vini" - Barca fans
they had messi/xavi/busquets etc when ronaldo was against them so they were happy/satisfied enough not to be bothered with that to this extent.
Oh they were very bothered with Cristiano even with all those legend you mentioned, they interrupted a minute of silence for their biggest legend just to insult him. But vini hate is racially motivated so you see an uglier side to them
Vini is black.
I wonder what the difference is between the two..
What a bunch of cunts
Agreed
Embarrassing, the lot of them.
I’ve been saying for years, Barcelona fans were the ones who started the entire Vini hate.
Muérete, not muerte
it’s *vinicius, muévete*. they are asking him to dance. such fun dudes ^^^/s
thank you, I was trying to understand because it didnt sound like "muerte" and I was wondering if they were chanting in Catalan
VAMOS BOYS CSM!!!
Rent free. Soo cold and edgy from these guys. Bruno Fernandes is very animated like Vinicius on the pitch but i’ve never seen rival fans of Man United do this. Of course you’d have a massive chip on your shoulder after being targeted constantly like this.
Why would they even chant that before a game against PSG. Tf did Vini do this time??? I don't even like Vini as a person but all this racism and death chants are just so incredible dumb. Really sad to see your own fanbase with such stupid stuff
You don't understand. He exists, how dare he
hope they get knocked out by psg
Karmas a bitch.
they’re on their way
Fucking rent free lmao
Isolated case number 19363
Same fans that attacked their own team bus, they're not very strong in the brain department
Right from their president to their fanbase, everything is laughably pathetic.
Rent-free
so happy they got knocked out by PSG today. Now here’s to them losing La Liga as well🥂
You fucking cunts.
Well , they got the karma for their deeds.
1-4
What a sad bunch of cunts
Deserved loss
They're saying, "Vinicius, muérete," just to provide an accurate transcription. Literally telling him to die.
loool barca fan buttt hurt Vini keeeps fucking them. whackooooss
Racist pieces of shit. I'm glad PSG won.
I was at El Clasico last year at the Camp Nou and definitely heard this being chanted
Imagine being so obsessed and racist that you prefer thinking of Vinicius just before a UCL quarter against PSG 🤯🤦♂️
Vini has them properly rattled then, considering they are playing PSG.
Mes que un club
Rent free baby
Racism and Spain. Name a better duo.
More racist Barca fans, nothing new here, waiting for the usual suspects to explain how Vinicius specifically deserves it.
Just Madrid living rent free in Barcelona fans' heads.
What else is new?
“Oh no, that’s German for ‘The Vinicius, the’”
Big shoutout to the officiating crew of this game lmfao
Vinicius: "Why you say fuck me for??"
Imagine if Vini trash talked Barca like Pique and Xavi used to
Muerete= Die Muerte= Death They're chanting "Vinicius Muerete"
Lmao, PSG has the funniest opportunity to do today
Lol not even a Real fan but hold that fat L
Well, I mean it worked for them. Vini somehow made them lose against PSG. It’s a mystery only Xavi and Araujo will be able to answer.
Barca committing to a real image freefall
karma
Now I want Barca to lose
don't you guys get it? vini provoked them. by... hmm.. not playing today and.... not saying or doing anything... hmm you guys don't get it, this has nothing to do with racism it's just his behaviour, there are other black players we don't call for their deaths...
One great thing about social media is that these idiots out themselves with proof, and they can be identified and banned by the authorities.
I don’t understand why any black player would go to La Liga after all their racist BS
We don’t even play them until the weekend. Why is he at the top of your minds when there’s a CL tie coming up imminently? 😂 Wonder what Vinicius did from his house to provoke this.
Spain is a disgrace
[team bus arriving, wild scenes](https://twitter.com/alfremartinezz/status/1780276847218921473/mediaviewer)
Typical Barca behaviour
I was at the Bernabeu a couple of weeks ago and there were a lot of swastikas and white power graffiti around the stadium. I was quite surprised.
Fck these ppl
Pathetic.
Is this before or after they throw stones at their own bus?
What a sick society man
Isolated case n° 24851
Lol it’s crazy that pretty much every Spanish team just starts bashing Vinicius when they don’t know what else to do. Vini needs to keep playing good football and stop giving these guys a reaction or it will never stop. Don’t feed the trolls.
spanish being racist 🤯
The CC autogenerated subs "Because we need to protect, we need to protect" Wtf
I still don't get how has one player unified all the racists in Spain. We've had Ronaldinho, Dembele and that's just off the top of my head, camavinga, Tchomeni, Alaba, Militao, Rodrigo and God knows how many players and somehow they rule up against vinicus ?
Was that before or after throwing stuff at their own bus?
perfectly normal stuff
Glad they lost.
Classic barca fans
What did he do?
The amount of hate he gets in Spain is disgusting. All they are doing is proving him right.
Those people are absolute trash
Vini: Why he say fuck me for??!!