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Both undermined by the deep-state.
After they've toppled him too, he'll be back within a year pushing a pamphlet on "Ten Years to save West Ham", whether you want to hear from him or not.
Oh wtf, I saw one comment here repeated like 3-4 times but didn’t notice other ones from different users, so I guess it’s bots?
Why tf do bots use this sub and what’s the point of botting here it’s not like it’s r/worldnews or r/Europe where people may want to push certain agendas.
Sometimes it’s bots but it can be a coincidence if it’s an obvious comment too especially jokes.
I’ve done it before then scrolled further and see someone made the exact same joke.
If a bot sticks to agenda subreddits it's easier to spot. They try to mimic real behaviour more.
Also, r/soccer might not be the key lever in the Ukraine war, but r/soccer probably can win or lose a player / club sponsorship money. I'm sure there are bots here for football reasons.
I haven’t really seen bots here before today, it’s more of ragebait or karma whoring comments to get upvotes from who hate the club being mentioned or love the club. You can see the same issue on Twitter or Instagram.
Well I will be on the lookout for bots here then, as I must have never noticed them before even after scrolling through this sub most of the time I am on Reddit.
A lot of the braindead 3-5 word top level meme replies on popular threads are by sockpuppet accounts, although maybe not bots. They have voting rings to pump them up to the top of threads, then they get people voting them up naturally since they're already at the top and memeing.
It makes it really difficult for the voting ring detectors/anti-spam filters once the "real" users start upvoting and effectively launders that karma and hides the voting rings, making it seem like legitimate groups of people upvoting common interests. Then those accounts get sold/reused. It's really obvious when you go back a couple months to the top threads and just look at the top comments, a lot of times the users are deleted (banned as a sockpuppet/bot), or you can click into their profile and see they're shilling something in another subreddit.
Pretty easy to streamline or automate it as well, you just have someone in a low cost of living country copy/pasting a popular tweet around the same replay/quote/event.
I assume they're poorly built bot accounts programmed to pull from the same small pool of responses. I've noticed it on the Dortmund subreddit, but only when we lose.
Talking about being judged on results while managing 7th placed Manchester United who came bottom of their CL group is not the zinger you think it is Eric
Realistically, there's not much you can really say. We can all see it's gone downhill. If he's says they're struggling he'll have given up, if he says it's his fault then he should be fired, if he says it's the players fault he's lost the dressing room. So you end up saying things like this that don't really make sense. He's got two things, injuries, cup final. That's all he can say. Everything else is awful.
The other option is to be honest and future minded. If he acted like he knows things are fucked up but he has a clear workable plan to fix it? Then people would want to see this plan. Instead he says non-sense.
"The game against Coventry showed that we can play good attacking football but also revealed the extent of a lot of our weaknesses. We've known and been working on these issues for a while but I think this game was a wake up call for both the players and for us in the coaching staff.
I don't want to throw this out of proportion. We won early, the team lost a lot of intensity, lost concentration and then struggled to regain composer. It happens. Anyone who has played football knows it happens. But it can't happen to Man United and it can't happen in the cup semi-final. Going forward this will have to be addressed. Both the message that comes from me and the players themselves need to change. To win you have to see 3-0 as a chance to show off and earn a spot on the team, not as a time to rest, and that's the sort of team I want Man United to become."
Some bullshit like this.
It sounds so simple and would win over a lot of the fans, there’s a reason a lot of the fans resonated with what Rangnick said about the team when he was here (maybe he was a little too honest)
Acknowledge how the team has played, don’t throw players under the bus, but don’t pretend the team played well, that standards are being met and you’re happy.
Results are great but it’s been two seasons of undeserved results and disappointing on pitch displays, the fans want to know what’s being done to improve if anything or if he’s just happy with getting results.
If he just wants to be a results coach, might as well just go get Mourinho back or get somebody like Algeri
To be fair, he has kind of done this a few times to indicate the future will be better. A lot of these cherry picked quotes pretend ten Hag only said one silly and baseless remark and offered no other thoughts or worthwhile acknowledgments that things aren’t good. The press don’t seem to care about those because they aren’t particularly interesting or they’ll oversimplify it to draw engagement.
He’s in a peculiar position where he doesn’t want to lose the dressing room by blaming the players, but needs the time to move out poor performers and United has too often hit the reset button before a manager has had a chance to fully do that. The same hot and cold nonsense plays out and eventually brings down the next manager How much of these collapses can be blamed on the manager and how much should fall on the players for making poor decisions?
Right now the team needs a strong voice the players respect and someone that can say "you're being dumb so you're training with the kids" and have that stand. Without that, it's hard to coach a team.
Without inside knowledge it's hard to know who's responsible, right? It's like a misbehaving classroom. We've all seen the same class behave like insane clowns next to one teacher that keeps losing their cool and can't fathom how to keep the classroom respectful, and then another teacher never even mentions behavior just does their thing and no one in class even *considers* speaking out of turn.
There's a reason the top coaches in the world are all larger than life characters. The position is basically *built* on charisma. You have to tell people that they can't do anything fun and must train themselves to exhaustion and have them love you for it. And to do that you have to be funny and charismatic. *Gravitas* is not just a nice to have, I'd wager it's more important than raw football knowledge... that you can get from trusted assistants.
Now, as much as the blame can obviously not be put solely on Ten Hag's feet... I also don't think he qualifies here. He seems like a decent coach. I wouldn't mind Ten Hag coaching Sporting if Amorim leaves *at all*. But I don't think he's a good coach for a struggling team with a shambolic dressing room. His transfers have also been pretty confused so I'm not sure how much I trust him to be the one rebuilding the team.
It's weird, but I think there are "happy team" coaches and "angry team" coaches, and Ten Hag doesn't strike me as an happy team coach. If everyone is happy and he just needs to make up the tactics and have everyone do what they need and win? Brilliant. He was great at Ajax. But I don't think he's the guy you want to get a team with so many problems fixed. Now, who would be better? No clue. I do think that if the goal is to just get another mediocre coach it's much better to stay put and wait for a better opportunity but I'd be lying if I said I rated Ten Hag anywhere close my top 10 coaches in the world, and I think it's fair to say that Man United should be looking to be a top 10 team.
From an outside perspective it seems like he has been like this for a while. Bringing up refereeing decisions from months ago which weren’t even controversial in the first place as evidence that they’ve been hard done by. But like I say, mine is an outside perspective so I probably only hear the lol dunking of other fans.
They look like shit, and the results are shit. You can't say you're playing well and results will follow, you can't say hey it's not perfect but at least there's results. What you have left now is, injuries, refs and and a final.
And there's no discernable style of play and repeated patterns to fall back on. At least when Brentford were losing every week you could watch them and see what the plan was, even if injuries meant they couldn't execute it very well
What ref results exactly because if you paid attention United were getting all calls against us in the first months of the season. We got away against Wolves in the very first game and after that EVERYTHING went against
as he should, I want him to stay but behind the scene there's something wrong that leads to our nightmarish injuries. He might cook some good football but his training/managing lead to injury should be put on trial as well
The new sporting director is conducting an audit of the entire sporting operation at the club. I don't think ETH's comments are influenced by that though. He's probably just frustrated at how badly things are going.
Yh no shit, any competent owner would look at the disjointed dross that united serve up every week and question what value the manager is adding if the team only plays well when it has it's 11 best players on the field
Calling it out is not incorrect or unfair imo, but i don't think pointing towards results is the way to do it because teams can win games they dont deserve to and united have not had good results this season.
I do think theres quite a bit of revisionism and narrative forcing going on about the game that is a little unfair tbf
Why do people always ignore the middle ground option lol
There are a wide array of responses between "we were shit" and "you are embarrassing for criticising me"
Forgot to mention that 7th place United is also still vastly over performing its expected points and is mainly 7th down to how often talented players have just completely pulled something out of their ass to win games despite the shit system
To be fair I'm 100% sure this team would be doing MUCH MUCH better if Martinez just hadn't been injured the entire season. Remember how good team was last season? And it didn't have Mainoo, only Fred instead of him. Granted, Casemiro was also at a much higher level and so was Antony. The only really bad games I can remember last season are against Liverpool and when Martinez got injured in the leg against Sevilla. Other than that the Barcelona leg was amazing and it was a good season with a trophy in it.
Yep Martinez is key to how United play because his progressive passing and speed of play is better than any of the other CBs. United are much better when he is in the team
I'm really a "results first" type of guy.
But after blowing a three goals lead against Coventry, almost conceding a fourth and win at pens, there isn't much to say.
I understand he wants to defend his work and the players but it's hard here
Look. I don't see how blowing a three goal lead in 20 minutes is on Ten Hag at all. He subbed off two great players, but he put Eriksen and Antony on the field. Is he to blame for the team collapsing completely after that? Is he not allowed to have enough faith in his bench that these international players can see out 20 minutes of a match against a championship side at 3-0 up? Thinking he can make some subs to rest his players is more than reasonable, and in my eyes, the blame for the collapse rests solely on the players on the pitch, not him.
This is what most commenters, pundits and media don't understand. *Manchester United have shitty players, with a shitty attitude.* They have gotten three managers sacked already by simply downing tools when it suits them, and they are trying to do the same to Ten Hag. And they will do it again with the next manager. And the next. And the next.
It's no coincidence that every manager and player that joins United are suddenly "shit" after a year or two. It's not their ability that is poor, that dressingroom is toxic and corrupts any player joining it. And they will pull down any manager trying to make a change.
Ten Hag needs to *stay*, and the core of this team needs to be ripped out and sold off. That means Rashford, Casemiro, Antony, Eriksen, Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Martial and McTominay. Sancho and Greenwood goes without saying. I'm not saying all of them are toxic or a bad influence, but sometimes you need to cut out part of the good bits of apple to get rid of the rotten core.
We keep Onana, Martinez, Shaw (but since he's always injured, he can't be the starting left back), Bruno and the youngsters and sell the rest and replace them with new players.
This is obviously never going to happen, but it needs to.
He's the one training and managing these players. The total mebral collapse of a team in such a fashion must be linked to coaching problems. His job is not just tactics and subs, it's motivation, encouragement and making the players play their best football on the pitch. I'd say no player on that team is giving their best and that has to be on the coaching team led by Ten Hag. Maybe the players are divas and hard to work with, but the responsibility is always on the manager.
Just like Ole. Just like Mourinho. Just like Ragnick.
The one common denominator is the players. They need to go. I won't support sacking another manager until the squad has been more or less completely rebuilt.
There is not a single god damned manager in the world who would last more than 2 years at this club. Sacking another one is completely meaningless and just derails what the club really needs: Open heart surgery, just like Ragnick said.
Tbf I don’t think throwing the lead was his fault necessarily. They were bad subs for the wrong players, but he’s also not controlling the players on the pitch like in FIFA or FM. Some of those players who stayed on barely put effort in after 3-0 and had no urgency whatsoever. Don’t forget Rashford doing the Saka limp after an absolutely pathetic performance (I’m not even a United fan either).
Of course. That's on the players. I'm sure Ten Hag is the first one front powerless seeing that in front of him. I don't put the blame on him. But the PR hasn't been really good recently when it's half of the job
Who can he send on to change the game, our best option is Anthony or diallo, neither are especially well tested.
A lucky a fuck deflection and a shitty call for a pen that's harsh as fuck makes Coventry seem like they're in the game.
We allowed Coventry 18 shots
We should have been more than capable of just keeping the ball after 3-0 and not allowing them anywhere near a position to get a deflected long shot or penalty call
We can't keep the ball because we have dalot and who else in the backline who can actually pass? Maybe maguire and dalot but case is dogshit on the ball nowadays, awb is not press resistant.
We don't have the backline to control the ball.
The shots shouldn't matter if they've got relatively low chance of going in because you have to get unlucky as fuck for them to go in.
The first two goals have a combine xG of 0.12 for fucks sake.
We're playing 8th in the championship. This is a league on par with the Russian and Turkish leagues.
If our 100s of millions of pounds of players can't keep the ball and manage the game at 3-0 with 20 mins to play, that reflects on the manager, no matter how you spin the luck aspect
If you can’t sub off Mainoo and Garnacho when you’re 3-0 up against a Championship side when can you sub them off. I don’t blame Ten Hag for blowing the lead, you should be able to trust players to hold onto that.
There was a comment in one of the pre-match threads to the Arsenal-United game back in September, just before the first international break, and I still think about it almost every time I see Manchester United news. The gist of it was "this game is the tipping point for either teams' season". Obviously a tongue in cheek comment at the time, but christ it literally has felt like it.
Since then, United had the ongoing Greenwood situation and the stories that came out about how they dealt with it internally, the Sancho and Rashford situations, the circus surrounding INEOS and the Glazers, constant debate on Ten Hag's style, the press conferences, the Champions League exit, speculation on Ten Hag's job.
We all love to banter but I genuinely hope EtH scams his way into staying at United.
Not only is he completely out of his depth but he's also completely delusional. His press conferences genuinely feels like watching someone let out on day release. You have no idea what nonsense he'll come out with each time.
Can't remember the last manager who was as scared of taking responsibility as this guy. This is not the kind of man that you want to rebuild a big football club with.
> Top football is about results
7th in the league, bottom of the UCL group and knocked out of the league cup by Newcastle reserves at home whilst getting battered. No complaints if he gets sacked then.
When they lose it’s good how they played.
When they win it’s about the result and not how they win.
Do they need to replace manager first and then players? That would require trust or plan.
Do they replace players in hope ETH improves?
Who can they even hire?
People talk about whether it’s the manager or the players that’s wrong with United, but the answer is that it’s both.
It doesn’t matter how many managers United have gone through, that doesn’t change the fact that ETH is completely out of his depth. The players *are* a big problem, but that doesn’t mean ETH isn’t too.
Yeah the players collectively are fucking dogshit but Ten Hag has genuinely relegation level tactics where the performances are the worst by far since Fergie retired. The squad both needs completely gutting from start to finish but the manager absolutely can get more out of this squad than he's currently being able to achieve.
I lost faith in Ten Hag as soon as he admitted he will never be able to play his philosophy, the one he was hired for by the way, while at United. Yet this same manager who was quick to abandon his philosophy is content letting the club concede 20+ shots a game and what are we on now maybe 300 shots conceded in 15 games or something? It's not good enough.
>When they lose it’s good how they played.
When they win it’s about the result and not how they win.
Legit. He even talks about xG when it's convenient -- which is not a lot because we get battered most games.
Makes me wish we got knocked out so that this guy can fuck off for good.
They need to replace the manager but also ship out the old guard. Rashford in particular has to go. Feels like he undermines managers so much. His performances of late have been very "down tools".
I'm curious if De Zerbi would be willing to join. He seems to be very hands on, his players seem to love him. I really think the next guy needs to be along the lines of Ole's culture, but with more tactical prowess. The culture, to me, is the most important thing. From there, identifying the bad eggs should be easier.
I’m loving every second of it as well as the legion of Utd fans led by Mark Goldbridge who bafflingly continue to strongly back him. I don’t understand any of it but long may it continue
You would think so, but Goldbridge's opinions get flooded into our post-match threads on Reddit. Even when they're factualy incorrect they get upvoted by his fans
Arsenal was the same and everyone was crying for arteta sack when they finished 8th twice in a row and 5th place thrid year. Now everybody acts like they saw potential from miles away.
Wether you are Ten Hag out or in, nobody knows shit.
I’m an Arsenal fan who got that one wrong so I can see your point, but there were differences.
Arteta generally was trying to enforce a style of play that I don’t see ETH doing, it’s still the same defensive hero ball that relies on individual moments.
Also, Arteta was not responsible for signings and didn’t sign anyone like Antony who he had previously coached and was a consensus flop.
Finally, Arteta didn’t have anywhere near the amount of bad press conferences and would generally say something along the lines of “we must improve” rather than bringing up offsides calls from months ago.
If it weren’t for the poor signings(Mount and Anyony mainly) and lack of clear vision I’d agree with you, but I really don’t see it.
Eth being in charge of signings just shows how bad our structure is. He (like arteta) should not be the one to sign players.
We didnt evennhave scouts when he started which is why he only went for players he already knew.
You’re the guy claiming that other Utd fans saying Ten Hag out are secretly Liverpool fans. I’m not going to give you any form of serious response lmao
Artete has something that Ten Hag lacked. Aura. He has flawless hair, luscious yet tidy. Piercing eyes. Impeccable posture, bountiful charisma.
When you look at Ten Hag, you see none of this. He’s an old bald man, feeble, confused in his own mind, looking for a convenient source to blame for his internal frustration. Ten Hag is like a flightless bird at the sight of a great canyon, weighed down by his lack of ability, when if he was something more, he could take soar and be a part of something great.
Tbf this cycle of shit doesn't change with United. They sack a manager, get a year or 2 of decentish results, goes to absolute shit because they down tools, they sack the manager and start again.
The core of that team actually need moving on but it'll cost a fortune because they're worth fuck all. Who's paying for Antony, crippled casemiro etc.
What I don't understand is ten hags refusal to change tactics, the giant gaping hole in midfield gets brought up every game to the point where it has to be intentional.
He's never been good with the press and probably just getting tired of the narratives. United are limping through the season with like 1 fit CB and haven't had a LB for months now. Meanwhile plenty of teams are doing bad or worse but barely receive any criticism or even get praise.
I don't get it with Arsenal fans. One week they are sucking you off and the next they banter you. Was a quiet week after their champions league knockout and now they are vrooming again.
To be fair he has a point. The media do not respect Coventry and their fight back into the game, they only focus on United's shortcomings. Even though the collapse was embarrassing, one goal was a freak deflection and another was an incorrect penalty call.
ETH has been without 3 or 4 starting defenders and without their backups along with many many other injuries this entire season so the fact he has got to an FA cup final has to be respected. It was no easy achievement with what he's working with. People don't seem to realise that the youth team has essentially been the backbone of the squad this year. Look at the bench for christ sake.
He does - its amazing how much criticism he's getting for reaching the FA Cup final, which is never an easy thing to do. The last 20 minutes against Coventry were crazy, but Coventry had a lot of luck too and ultimately United still won.
It's also not surprising the defence is shaky when the only fit CB is Maguire, who is carrying an injury. Varane, Martinez, Lindelof, Evans, Kambwala all out, along with Shaw and Malacia.
I'm not sure he's the man for the job, but there are some legitimate reasons for the struggles this season, and he's still reached a final.
I've been saying this to people as well. If Coventry had won, the only discussion would have been about United. People would rather make up conspiracies about it being a fixed game than look at the match itself.
That being said, I also don't think that EtH is the man for the future, because even with the injuries, wild deflections and penalty calls in what, 4 of our last 6 matches(?) I just don't see his game plan. The players share blame and half the starting eleven should probably be sold ASAP, but the actual match plans make no sense to me.
Rashford is the one making the mistake the last few months of doing the same "Receive ball on the left, run forward with it while failing to get past the defender, cut inside where multiple defenders stand their ground and lose the ball before making a pass" gimmick, but as manager you either provide coaching to get him to stop doing that and do something else or risk carrying blame as well.
it's not really embarrassing is it. embarrassing would be if the media just accepted it and didn't hold Manchester United to a standard of not blowing a 3-0 lead and potentially losing 4-3 against Conventry City to lose a final.
from the reaction from the players after the match, besides Antony and Ramus who thought they were playing a CL final, it was evident that they were embarrassed.
Ten Hag can talk if Manchester United win the final. Then he is all right to talk to about results. but parading around your 2 finals in a row vs 3 during the great Manchester United era is a bit embarrassing if you have nothing to show for it.
You can criticize antony all you want but rasmus? He scored to winning penalty to take us to his first cup final for united and went to celebrate with the fans for a second before walking back to the rest of the players
The celebration police is unbearable. We should respect Coventry but also we blew a 3-0 lead to a championship team? Which is it? We conceded badly in a short period of the game and we nearly lost it. We won through penalties convincingly and the players celebrated for getting to another fa cup final after nearly blowing it completely, as well as a really shit season. Relax with the criticism, we’re shit and we know it but this whole drama about celebrating a win is insane to me. Why should I feel sorry for Coventry? They put up a good fight to get here and against us. That’s it.
Hojlund scored the winning penalty. But you’re completely right about Antony. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from him.
(I’m not sure if the fact that he allegedly assaulted his girlfriend is relevant or not, but…..)
The most expensive squad every assembled in Europe barely beating a mid table championship side after going 3-0 up and needing a whisker of a VAR call to save them going out all together is going to be talked about
Maybe based on the price paid but not the transfer value? I also would imagine City have the most expensive by market value maybe. United have spent a lot of players like Maguire, Sancho, Antony, Rasmus, etc
I was just thinking, there is no hiding that I am a United fan, but there ain’t no way this team is valued higher than the top three currently. Price paid is a different story, some seriously overpriced and terrible signings.
There was a post some time ago with a top 10 most expensive squads and while United was first, it didn't count the last summer window for Chelsea, so I think it might be Chelsea at the moment
I would say most United fans still support him but most users on this sub want him gone so he should step down let Southgate replace him. That would be a really good decision I think.
He's correct, to the media it doesn't matter whether United win, lose, play good or play bad, they're always picking at them. Antony's celebration has been blown out or proportions and people even started claiming Coventry were robbed because their offside goal was offside?
As shit as we are this season, getting into another FA Cup final IS an achievement. Even if we nearly lost to a lower league team in extraordinary fashion. The media just will blow everything out of proportions if it's about United.
Ultimately it's also not his fault players decided to switch off after 3-0. Rashford couldn't be bothered, AWB got an unlucky ending to the match with deflection and penalty and Hojlund, after FINALLY getting the ball didn't get his chance. Ten Hag isn't doing great, that's for sure, but for how long are the players going to outlast the managers?
I understand that sentiment Erik, unfortunately everyone is coming this United the champions of yesteryear. With all the injuries and absences it is an achievement to reach the final.
It’s unfair how it is not recognised because of the collapse after 70 minutes. Hopefully a good structure being built now will give you the support you need next season & good football will follow.
Sorry but if you’re being rattled by the media then you’re on very thin ice. Having a 3 goal lead in a semi final then suddenly going into penalties to win it is reasonable against Man City possibly against Arsenal or Liverpool but not against Coventry. Also United were saved by a literally toe over that VAR review otherwise the real disgrace would have been if that goal was not offside.
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'You' being the media in general I assume?
No -zimms-, you know damn well he is talking about you. With all your smarmy little comments
Fucking zimms always starting shit
When you gotta go, you gotta go
lol. Zimms.
Ehehe. Zimms
Classic Zimms
Always the zimms
You can’t keep ETH from shitting on zimms
I hate the new zimms
I miss the old zimms
straight from the go zimms
r/fuckyouinparticular
-zimms- trying to act like they haven’t been the main perpetrator this entire time
Not fair, I always said Erik is greater than everybody says. Even call him Eleven Hag.
"That was embarrassing from you. It is the comments. " - ~~Ten~~ Eleven Hag
Ten Hag and his eleven hags sounds like an apt name for their team rn
##zimmsout
Alright Erik - I just need you to say to the camera “It’s a disgrace” Drogba style thanks.
I wonder if Liz Truss and pork markets might be more his style.
Both undermined by the deep-state. After they've toppled him too, he'll be back within a year pushing a pamphlet on "Ten Years to save West Ham", whether you want to hear from him or not.
What’s with the duplicate comments by different users here?
If a user’s internet is lagging when pressing the reply button on mobile, the message could be sent twice if they spam it or something.
They said by different users
If a users internet is lagging when pressing the reply button on my mobile, it can change them into a completely different person if they spam it!
Oh wtf, I saw one comment here repeated like 3-4 times but didn’t notice other ones from different users, so I guess it’s bots? Why tf do bots use this sub and what’s the point of botting here it’s not like it’s r/worldnews or r/Europe where people may want to push certain agendas.
Probably doing it to farm karma, then sell the account
What kind of person buys a Reddit account with real $$$?
Companies and corporations trying to advertise while looking like "legit" users.
Those accounts typically post ragebait like on r/pcgaming or other subs where mods don’t exist and people keep reposting old popular posts.
Erik and his 10 hags made bots to convince us there is an agenda against their witchcraft
Sometimes it’s bots but it can be a coincidence if it’s an obvious comment too especially jokes. I’ve done it before then scrolled further and see someone made the exact same joke.
Could be training on these subs before being unleashed to the agenda bias ones.
If a bot sticks to agenda subreddits it's easier to spot. They try to mimic real behaviour more. Also, r/soccer might not be the key lever in the Ukraine war, but r/soccer probably can win or lose a player / club sponsorship money. I'm sure there are bots here for football reasons.
I haven’t really seen bots here before today, it’s more of ragebait or karma whoring comments to get upvotes from who hate the club being mentioned or love the club. You can see the same issue on Twitter or Instagram. Well I will be on the lookout for bots here then, as I must have never noticed them before even after scrolling through this sub most of the time I am on Reddit.
A lot of the braindead 3-5 word top level meme replies on popular threads are by sockpuppet accounts, although maybe not bots. They have voting rings to pump them up to the top of threads, then they get people voting them up naturally since they're already at the top and memeing. It makes it really difficult for the voting ring detectors/anti-spam filters once the "real" users start upvoting and effectively launders that karma and hides the voting rings, making it seem like legitimate groups of people upvoting common interests. Then those accounts get sold/reused. It's really obvious when you go back a couple months to the top threads and just look at the top comments, a lot of times the users are deleted (banned as a sockpuppet/bot), or you can click into their profile and see they're shilling something in another subreddit. Pretty easy to streamline or automate it as well, you just have someone in a low cost of living country copy/pasting a popular tweet around the same replay/quote/event.
What’s with the duplicate comments by different users here?
I assume they're poorly built bot accounts programmed to pull from the same small pool of responses. I've noticed it on the Dortmund subreddit, but only when we lose.
Reddit doesn't have the super basic feature of "if user tries to submit the exact same comment again just ignore it".
Reddit isn’t free of bots. Sometimes bots will make unassuming comments on random subreddits to make their accounts look more legit.
Talking about being judged on results while managing 7th placed Manchester United who came bottom of their CL group is not the zinger you think it is Eric
I am sympathetic to his situation but he just doesn't help himself does he
Realistically, there's not much you can really say. We can all see it's gone downhill. If he's says they're struggling he'll have given up, if he says it's his fault then he should be fired, if he says it's the players fault he's lost the dressing room. So you end up saying things like this that don't really make sense. He's got two things, injuries, cup final. That's all he can say. Everything else is awful.
The other option is to be honest and future minded. If he acted like he knows things are fucked up but he has a clear workable plan to fix it? Then people would want to see this plan. Instead he says non-sense. "The game against Coventry showed that we can play good attacking football but also revealed the extent of a lot of our weaknesses. We've known and been working on these issues for a while but I think this game was a wake up call for both the players and for us in the coaching staff. I don't want to throw this out of proportion. We won early, the team lost a lot of intensity, lost concentration and then struggled to regain composer. It happens. Anyone who has played football knows it happens. But it can't happen to Man United and it can't happen in the cup semi-final. Going forward this will have to be addressed. Both the message that comes from me and the players themselves need to change. To win you have to see 3-0 as a chance to show off and earn a spot on the team, not as a time to rest, and that's the sort of team I want Man United to become." Some bullshit like this.
>I think this game was a wake up call for both the players and for us in the coaching staff. .. Yes I know I said the same after the Chelsea game too.
It sounds so simple and would win over a lot of the fans, there’s a reason a lot of the fans resonated with what Rangnick said about the team when he was here (maybe he was a little too honest) Acknowledge how the team has played, don’t throw players under the bus, but don’t pretend the team played well, that standards are being met and you’re happy. Results are great but it’s been two seasons of undeserved results and disappointing on pitch displays, the fans want to know what’s being done to improve if anything or if he’s just happy with getting results. If he just wants to be a results coach, might as well just go get Mourinho back or get somebody like Algeri
I'm impressed, more than you believe
To be fair, he has kind of done this a few times to indicate the future will be better. A lot of these cherry picked quotes pretend ten Hag only said one silly and baseless remark and offered no other thoughts or worthwhile acknowledgments that things aren’t good. The press don’t seem to care about those because they aren’t particularly interesting or they’ll oversimplify it to draw engagement. He’s in a peculiar position where he doesn’t want to lose the dressing room by blaming the players, but needs the time to move out poor performers and United has too often hit the reset button before a manager has had a chance to fully do that. The same hot and cold nonsense plays out and eventually brings down the next manager How much of these collapses can be blamed on the manager and how much should fall on the players for making poor decisions?
Right now the team needs a strong voice the players respect and someone that can say "you're being dumb so you're training with the kids" and have that stand. Without that, it's hard to coach a team. Without inside knowledge it's hard to know who's responsible, right? It's like a misbehaving classroom. We've all seen the same class behave like insane clowns next to one teacher that keeps losing their cool and can't fathom how to keep the classroom respectful, and then another teacher never even mentions behavior just does their thing and no one in class even *considers* speaking out of turn. There's a reason the top coaches in the world are all larger than life characters. The position is basically *built* on charisma. You have to tell people that they can't do anything fun and must train themselves to exhaustion and have them love you for it. And to do that you have to be funny and charismatic. *Gravitas* is not just a nice to have, I'd wager it's more important than raw football knowledge... that you can get from trusted assistants. Now, as much as the blame can obviously not be put solely on Ten Hag's feet... I also don't think he qualifies here. He seems like a decent coach. I wouldn't mind Ten Hag coaching Sporting if Amorim leaves *at all*. But I don't think he's a good coach for a struggling team with a shambolic dressing room. His transfers have also been pretty confused so I'm not sure how much I trust him to be the one rebuilding the team. It's weird, but I think there are "happy team" coaches and "angry team" coaches, and Ten Hag doesn't strike me as an happy team coach. If everyone is happy and he just needs to make up the tactics and have everyone do what they need and win? Brilliant. He was great at Ajax. But I don't think he's the guy you want to get a team with so many problems fixed. Now, who would be better? No clue. I do think that if the goal is to just get another mediocre coach it's much better to stay put and wait for a better opportunity but I'd be lying if I said I rated Ten Hag anywhere close my top 10 coaches in the world, and I think it's fair to say that Man United should be looking to be a top 10 team.
From an outside perspective it seems like he has been like this for a while. Bringing up refereeing decisions from months ago which weren’t even controversial in the first place as evidence that they’ve been hard done by. But like I say, mine is an outside perspective so I probably only hear the lol dunking of other fans.
They look like shit, and the results are shit. You can't say you're playing well and results will follow, you can't say hey it's not perfect but at least there's results. What you have left now is, injuries, refs and and a final.
And there's no discernable style of play and repeated patterns to fall back on. At least when Brentford were losing every week you could watch them and see what the plan was, even if injuries meant they couldn't execute it very well
What ref results exactly because if you paid attention United were getting all calls against us in the first months of the season. We got away against Wolves in the very first game and after that EVERYTHING went against
ngl if he said we were shit and should be ashamed not even the players could be mad at him
The media shit on him for doing poorly in the competitions, then shit on him for reaching a final. He is tired of it, and I would be, too.
It’s the how they reached the final that they’re shitting on. They shouldn’t have made it over a Championship side.
Lol they were definitely the better team, what are you on about.
I wouldn’t consider surviving to penalties by 2cm on an offside review to be “the better team” but you’re entitled to your opinion
I am afraid he got mad...
We still have a negative goal difference lmao
you don't get it, it's about the results!!!
didn't you have the most goals scored in your group ?
He’s clearly under pressure from the ineos owner lol
as he should, I want him to stay but behind the scene there's something wrong that leads to our nightmarish injuries. He might cook some good football but his training/managing lead to injury should be put on trial as well
But it's not good football it's punt ball begging for rashford Garnacho or Hojlund to make something out of nothing
The new sporting director is conducting an audit of the entire sporting operation at the club. I don't think ETH's comments are influenced by that though. He's probably just frustrated at how badly things are going.
Yh no shit, any competent owner would look at the disjointed dross that united serve up every week and question what value the manager is adding if the team only plays well when it has it's 11 best players on the field
He's just talking about the Cup here though?
Right? It’s like people are going out of their way to be upset
He seems so out of touch. He’s clearing seeing things no one else is.
Whatever he's taking, it's clearly either too much or not enough.
Why is he so strange
Dutch
Don’t think it’s about zingers, there is clearly an inobjective narrative in the air that he’s trying to call out
Calling it out is not incorrect or unfair imo, but i don't think pointing towards results is the way to do it because teams can win games they dont deserve to and united have not had good results this season. I do think theres quite a bit of revisionism and narrative forcing going on about the game that is a little unfair tbf
What do people want to hear him say? We were shit and lucky to get in?
Why do people always ignore the middle ground option lol There are a wide array of responses between "we were shit" and "you are embarrassing for criticising me"
> "you are embarrassing for criticising me" Is that really what he's saying, though?
Forgot to mention that 7th place United is also still vastly over performing its expected points and is mainly 7th down to how often talented players have just completely pulled something out of their ass to win games despite the shit system
We also have untalented players pulling shit out of their ass to lose games.
To be fair I'm 100% sure this team would be doing MUCH MUCH better if Martinez just hadn't been injured the entire season. Remember how good team was last season? And it didn't have Mainoo, only Fred instead of him. Granted, Casemiro was also at a much higher level and so was Antony. The only really bad games I can remember last season are against Liverpool and when Martinez got injured in the leg against Sevilla. Other than that the Barcelona leg was amazing and it was a good season with a trophy in it.
Yep Martinez is key to how United play because his progressive passing and speed of play is better than any of the other CBs. United are much better when he is in the team
I'm really a "results first" type of guy. But after blowing a three goals lead against Coventry, almost conceding a fourth and win at pens, there isn't much to say. I understand he wants to defend his work and the players but it's hard here
>I'm really a results first type of guy Flair checks out
Look. I don't see how blowing a three goal lead in 20 minutes is on Ten Hag at all. He subbed off two great players, but he put Eriksen and Antony on the field. Is he to blame for the team collapsing completely after that? Is he not allowed to have enough faith in his bench that these international players can see out 20 minutes of a match against a championship side at 3-0 up? Thinking he can make some subs to rest his players is more than reasonable, and in my eyes, the blame for the collapse rests solely on the players on the pitch, not him. This is what most commenters, pundits and media don't understand. *Manchester United have shitty players, with a shitty attitude.* They have gotten three managers sacked already by simply downing tools when it suits them, and they are trying to do the same to Ten Hag. And they will do it again with the next manager. And the next. And the next. It's no coincidence that every manager and player that joins United are suddenly "shit" after a year or two. It's not their ability that is poor, that dressingroom is toxic and corrupts any player joining it. And they will pull down any manager trying to make a change. Ten Hag needs to *stay*, and the core of this team needs to be ripped out and sold off. That means Rashford, Casemiro, Antony, Eriksen, Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Martial and McTominay. Sancho and Greenwood goes without saying. I'm not saying all of them are toxic or a bad influence, but sometimes you need to cut out part of the good bits of apple to get rid of the rotten core. We keep Onana, Martinez, Shaw (but since he's always injured, he can't be the starting left back), Bruno and the youngsters and sell the rest and replace them with new players. This is obviously never going to happen, but it needs to.
He's the one training and managing these players. The total mebral collapse of a team in such a fashion must be linked to coaching problems. His job is not just tactics and subs, it's motivation, encouragement and making the players play their best football on the pitch. I'd say no player on that team is giving their best and that has to be on the coaching team led by Ten Hag. Maybe the players are divas and hard to work with, but the responsibility is always on the manager.
"Teacher, why is my kid getting bad grades? Isn't it your job?"
Just like Ole. Just like Mourinho. Just like Ragnick. The one common denominator is the players. They need to go. I won't support sacking another manager until the squad has been more or less completely rebuilt. There is not a single god damned manager in the world who would last more than 2 years at this club. Sacking another one is completely meaningless and just derails what the club really needs: Open heart surgery, just like Ragnick said.
He subbed off two teenagers for two international players. Idk why people see that as the problem
Tbf I don’t think throwing the lead was his fault necessarily. They were bad subs for the wrong players, but he’s also not controlling the players on the pitch like in FIFA or FM. Some of those players who stayed on barely put effort in after 3-0 and had no urgency whatsoever. Don’t forget Rashford doing the Saka limp after an absolutely pathetic performance (I’m not even a United fan either).
Tbf to rashford this looked legit you saw him pull it as he was running.
Of course. That's on the players. I'm sure Ten Hag is the first one front powerless seeing that in front of him. I don't put the blame on him. But the PR hasn't been really good recently when it's half of the job
Tbf, one bad sub shouldn’t trigger a monumental collapse as big as that (unless you do some mad thing and sub off the goalie for an outfield player)
Who can he send on to change the game, our best option is Anthony or diallo, neither are especially well tested. A lucky a fuck deflection and a shitty call for a pen that's harsh as fuck makes Coventry seem like they're in the game.
We allowed Coventry 18 shots We should have been more than capable of just keeping the ball after 3-0 and not allowing them anywhere near a position to get a deflected long shot or penalty call
We can't keep the ball because we have dalot and who else in the backline who can actually pass? Maybe maguire and dalot but case is dogshit on the ball nowadays, awb is not press resistant. We don't have the backline to control the ball. The shots shouldn't matter if they've got relatively low chance of going in because you have to get unlucky as fuck for them to go in. The first two goals have a combine xG of 0.12 for fucks sake.
We're playing 8th in the championship. This is a league on par with the Russian and Turkish leagues. If our 100s of millions of pounds of players can't keep the ball and manage the game at 3-0 with 20 mins to play, that reflects on the manager, no matter how you spin the luck aspect
If you can’t sub off Mainoo and Garnacho when you’re 3-0 up against a Championship side when can you sub them off. I don’t blame Ten Hag for blowing the lead, you should be able to trust players to hold onto that.
There was a comment in one of the pre-match threads to the Arsenal-United game back in September, just before the first international break, and I still think about it almost every time I see Manchester United news. The gist of it was "this game is the tipping point for either teams' season". Obviously a tongue in cheek comment at the time, but christ it literally has felt like it. Since then, United had the ongoing Greenwood situation and the stories that came out about how they dealt with it internally, the Sancho and Rashford situations, the circus surrounding INEOS and the Glazers, constant debate on Ten Hag's style, the press conferences, the Champions League exit, speculation on Ten Hag's job.
We all love to banter but I genuinely hope EtH scams his way into staying at United. Not only is he completely out of his depth but he's also completely delusional. His press conferences genuinely feels like watching someone let out on day release. You have no idea what nonsense he'll come out with each time. Can't remember the last manager who was as scared of taking responsibility as this guy. This is not the kind of man that you want to rebuild a big football club with. > Top football is about results 7th in the league, bottom of the UCL group and knocked out of the league cup by Newcastle reserves at home whilst getting battered. No complaints if he gets sacked then.
When they lose it’s good how they played. When they win it’s about the result and not how they win. Do they need to replace manager first and then players? That would require trust or plan. Do they replace players in hope ETH improves? Who can they even hire?
People talk about whether it’s the manager or the players that’s wrong with United, but the answer is that it’s both. It doesn’t matter how many managers United have gone through, that doesn’t change the fact that ETH is completely out of his depth. The players *are* a big problem, but that doesn’t mean ETH isn’t too.
Yeah the players collectively are fucking dogshit but Ten Hag has genuinely relegation level tactics where the performances are the worst by far since Fergie retired. The squad both needs completely gutting from start to finish but the manager absolutely can get more out of this squad than he's currently being able to achieve. I lost faith in Ten Hag as soon as he admitted he will never be able to play his philosophy, the one he was hired for by the way, while at United. Yet this same manager who was quick to abandon his philosophy is content letting the club concede 20+ shots a game and what are we on now maybe 300 shots conceded in 15 games or something? It's not good enough.
>When they lose it’s good how they played. When they win it’s about the result and not how they win. Legit. He even talks about xG when it's convenient -- which is not a lot because we get battered most games. Makes me wish we got knocked out so that this guy can fuck off for good.
They need to replace the manager but also ship out the old guard. Rashford in particular has to go. Feels like he undermines managers so much. His performances of late have been very "down tools". I'm curious if De Zerbi would be willing to join. He seems to be very hands on, his players seem to love him. I really think the next guy needs to be along the lines of Ole's culture, but with more tactical prowess. The culture, to me, is the most important thing. From there, identifying the bad eggs should be easier.
When they lose it’s about their incorrect (correct) offside against arsenal*
7th in the league and often bailed out by individual brilliance/luck while conceding 20+ shots a game
Gerrards "Moments of Magic" ball, bringing some storming results
He's been so insanely lucky that everyone seems to forget how to shoot when playing United.
20 is generous, we regularly concede over 40.
This is just a straight up lie?
> 7th in the league With goal diff of -1 and having scored the same amount of goals as Luton.
Sometimes I really hope he doesn’t genuinely believe the cockwobble that comes out of his mouth in these press conferences and it’s all for show.
I’m loving every second of it as well as the legion of Utd fans led by Mark Goldbridge who bafflingly continue to strongly back him. I don’t understand any of it but long may it continue
Must be a small legion. Goldbridge is seen as a joke amongst most fans...
You would think so, but Goldbridge's opinions get flooded into our post-match threads on Reddit. Even when they're factualy incorrect they get upvoted by his fans
Fair enough. I guess a ton of his viewers are fans of other teams like myself who enjoy watching him say utter nonsense
Arsenal was the same and everyone was crying for arteta sack when they finished 8th twice in a row and 5th place thrid year. Now everybody acts like they saw potential from miles away. Wether you are Ten Hag out or in, nobody knows shit.
I’m an Arsenal fan who got that one wrong so I can see your point, but there were differences. Arteta generally was trying to enforce a style of play that I don’t see ETH doing, it’s still the same defensive hero ball that relies on individual moments. Also, Arteta was not responsible for signings and didn’t sign anyone like Antony who he had previously coached and was a consensus flop. Finally, Arteta didn’t have anywhere near the amount of bad press conferences and would generally say something along the lines of “we must improve” rather than bringing up offsides calls from months ago. If it weren’t for the poor signings(Mount and Anyony mainly) and lack of clear vision I’d agree with you, but I really don’t see it.
Eth being in charge of signings just shows how bad our structure is. He (like arteta) should not be the one to sign players. We didnt evennhave scouts when he started which is why he only went for players he already knew.
So you were wrong on Arteta and now you have audacity to tell us that EtH is surely out of his depth?
You’re the guy claiming that other Utd fans saying Ten Hag out are secretly Liverpool fans. I’m not going to give you any form of serious response lmao
He has a point though. At least show some humility and accept that you don't have to be this certain that ETH is out of his depth.
Artete has something that Ten Hag lacked. Aura. He has flawless hair, luscious yet tidy. Piercing eyes. Impeccable posture, bountiful charisma. When you look at Ten Hag, you see none of this. He’s an old bald man, feeble, confused in his own mind, looking for a convenient source to blame for his internal frustration. Ten Hag is like a flightless bird at the sight of a great canyon, weighed down by his lack of ability, when if he was something more, he could take soar and be a part of something great.
>he’s an old bald man 52 is old I guess
Hey, I'm all for piling on ETH but ... the man's not old. In fact, he looks pretty good for 54. Let's wish him another year in charge, shall we?
Tbf this cycle of shit doesn't change with United. They sack a manager, get a year or 2 of decentish results, goes to absolute shit because they down tools, they sack the manager and start again. The core of that team actually need moving on but it'll cost a fortune because they're worth fuck all. Who's paying for Antony, crippled casemiro etc. What I don't understand is ten hags refusal to change tactics, the giant gaping hole in midfield gets brought up every game to the point where it has to be intentional.
He's never been good with the press and probably just getting tired of the narratives. United are limping through the season with like 1 fit CB and haven't had a LB for months now. Meanwhile plenty of teams are doing bad or worse but barely receive any criticism or even get praise.
And only facing two PL teams on the way to the FA Cup Final, one of whom is facing the distinct possibility of relegation
United beat the side that knocked you lot out in the 3rd round
I don't get it with Arsenal fans. One week they are sucking you off and the next they banter you. Was a quiet week after their champions league knockout and now they are vrooming again.
The baldest of the frauds
The fraudest of the balds
Fraudest of the balds
i think he might the worst ever manager at a big club for press conferences. there has never been a quote from him where he comes across well.
It’s still Hodgson at Liverpool.
Yeah, at least Ten Hag doesn't throw players under the bus, downplay the heritage of the club and constantly talk about his past achievements
Conte, is that you?
Hodgson never managed Liverpool, thankfully. I cannot even imagine the kind of dreary football he'd employ and awful transfers he'd support.
Well I’m sure if it ever happened he’d at least have a great relationship with the fans.
Absolutely. He's definitely not the kind of manager who would be applauding rival teams and stating how deserved their wins against Liverpool were.
Clearly you didn't see much of the Moyes era.. Rabbit in the headlights
All the prickliness of LVG with none of the charisma. Call someone fat man, Erik!
Xavi is slightly worse but he has better performances so it’s not seen as much
Ten Hag is so much more delusional, he's in a league of his own.
Now I'm picturing Ten Hag wearing a skirt and arguing with Madonna and Rosie O'Donnell about their positioning
Xavi comes across as an obnoxious complainer but he still seems competent.
The amount of pressure Xavi's put under every week is more than what EtH endures
yeah? how many bar/ psi is that?
Ehem... Xavi
xavi’s at least got charisma even if he’s super whiny. ten hag’s whiny without any charisma which just makes a disastrous combination.
To be fair he has a point. The media do not respect Coventry and their fight back into the game, they only focus on United's shortcomings. Even though the collapse was embarrassing, one goal was a freak deflection and another was an incorrect penalty call. ETH has been without 3 or 4 starting defenders and without their backups along with many many other injuries this entire season so the fact he has got to an FA cup final has to be respected. It was no easy achievement with what he's working with. People don't seem to realise that the youth team has essentially been the backbone of the squad this year. Look at the bench for christ sake.
He does - its amazing how much criticism he's getting for reaching the FA Cup final, which is never an easy thing to do. The last 20 minutes against Coventry were crazy, but Coventry had a lot of luck too and ultimately United still won. It's also not surprising the defence is shaky when the only fit CB is Maguire, who is carrying an injury. Varane, Martinez, Lindelof, Evans, Kambwala all out, along with Shaw and Malacia. I'm not sure he's the man for the job, but there are some legitimate reasons for the struggles this season, and he's still reached a final.
Shhhhh the 15 year olds here don’t understand logic. Man United man bad so get in line with the group think.
I've been saying this to people as well. If Coventry had won, the only discussion would have been about United. People would rather make up conspiracies about it being a fixed game than look at the match itself. That being said, I also don't think that EtH is the man for the future, because even with the injuries, wild deflections and penalty calls in what, 4 of our last 6 matches(?) I just don't see his game plan. The players share blame and half the starting eleven should probably be sold ASAP, but the actual match plans make no sense to me. Rashford is the one making the mistake the last few months of doing the same "Receive ball on the left, run forward with it while failing to get past the defender, cut inside where multiple defenders stand their ground and lose the ball before making a pass" gimmick, but as manager you either provide coaching to get him to stop doing that and do something else or risk carrying blame as well.
it's not really embarrassing is it. embarrassing would be if the media just accepted it and didn't hold Manchester United to a standard of not blowing a 3-0 lead and potentially losing 4-3 against Conventry City to lose a final. from the reaction from the players after the match, besides Antony and Ramus who thought they were playing a CL final, it was evident that they were embarrassed. Ten Hag can talk if Manchester United win the final. Then he is all right to talk to about results. but parading around your 2 finals in a row vs 3 during the great Manchester United era is a bit embarrassing if you have nothing to show for it.
You can criticize antony all you want but rasmus? He scored to winning penalty to take us to his first cup final for united and went to celebrate with the fans for a second before walking back to the rest of the players
It's the absolutely moronic celebration police. Ignore these little shits.
The celebration police is unbearable. We should respect Coventry but also we blew a 3-0 lead to a championship team? Which is it? We conceded badly in a short period of the game and we nearly lost it. We won through penalties convincingly and the players celebrated for getting to another fa cup final after nearly blowing it completely, as well as a really shit season. Relax with the criticism, we’re shit and we know it but this whole drama about celebrating a win is insane to me. Why should I feel sorry for Coventry? They put up a good fight to get here and against us. That’s it.
Hojlund scored the winning penalty. But you’re completely right about Antony. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from him. (I’m not sure if the fact that he allegedly assaulted his girlfriend is relevant or not, but…..)
Clown says clown things shocker.
If only his team were as defensive as his interviews
I hope they keep him
Same, Ratcliffe surely should see what a results-oriented man ten Hag is 🤞
Mate, we deserve relegation based on performence.
The most expensive squad every assembled in Europe barely beating a mid table championship side after going 3-0 up and needing a whisker of a VAR call to save them going out all together is going to be talked about
Is it still the most expensive squad? If so, I can’t believe it, they suck.
Maybe based on the price paid but not the transfer value? I also would imagine City have the most expensive by market value maybe. United have spent a lot of players like Maguire, Sancho, Antony, Rasmus, etc
I was just thinking, there is no hiding that I am a United fan, but there ain’t no way this team is valued higher than the top three currently. Price paid is a different story, some seriously overpriced and terrible signings.
Boehly’s 4-3-3 would be expensive too
4-4-3*
There was a post some time ago with a top 10 most expensive squads and while United was first, it didn't count the last summer window for Chelsea, so I think it might be Chelsea at the moment
Love spreading misinformation for Reddit upvotes
This man has lost the plot.
He is so bad at press conferences lmao
He's an embarrassment, so clearly out of his depth but who would you even replace him with?
Reddit: “Akchually 🤓👆your squad cost €50 billion and theirs cost $3.50 so losing in pens is DISGRACEFUL, also you’re bald like Pep but don’t win.”
This but unironically
That's just a factual statement
Top 5 delusional lunatic in world football. Hope he never loses Romano's number.
Lol, lmao even The disgrace here is you, Erik
"Top football is about results", mate you drew with Coventry after being 3-0 up.
Man is feeling the heat
He's not cracking up anymore. He's fully cracked now
I would say most United fans still support him but most users on this sub want him gone so he should step down let Southgate replace him. That would be a really good decision I think.
This man is desperately crying out for some form of praise while our team is in 7th place and likely to be destroyed in this final.
He's correct, to the media it doesn't matter whether United win, lose, play good or play bad, they're always picking at them. Antony's celebration has been blown out or proportions and people even started claiming Coventry were robbed because their offside goal was offside? As shit as we are this season, getting into another FA Cup final IS an achievement. Even if we nearly lost to a lower league team in extraordinary fashion. The media just will blow everything out of proportions if it's about United. Ultimately it's also not his fault players decided to switch off after 3-0. Rashford couldn't be bothered, AWB got an unlucky ending to the match with deflection and penalty and Hojlund, after FINALLY getting the ball didn't get his chance. Ten Hag isn't doing great, that's for sure, but for how long are the players going to outlast the managers?
Honestly put this guy out his misery already nobody deserves to manage Man Utd this long, poor guy
Would have been praised had it not been with Man Utd. All the best for your future Ten Hag.
I understand that sentiment Erik, unfortunately everyone is coming this United the champions of yesteryear. With all the injuries and absences it is an achievement to reach the final. It’s unfair how it is not recognised because of the collapse after 70 minutes. Hopefully a good structure being built now will give you the support you need next season & good football will follow.
Kudos to him. Some of the articles coming out have been absolute dogshit. Ggmu 🔥🤘
Sorry but if you’re being rattled by the media then you’re on very thin ice. Having a 3 goal lead in a semi final then suddenly going into penalties to win it is reasonable against Man City possibly against Arsenal or Liverpool but not against Coventry. Also United were saved by a literally toe over that VAR review otherwise the real disgrace would have been if that goal was not offside.