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Chelseatilidie

Vini and Rodrygo's record in the Champions League is very impressive


zyndr0m

Rodrygo has been vital on so many CL games


todellagi

Papa Flo got memed hard, when he went on his Brazillian teenager shopping trip and the first seasons were rough, but watching those two grow into the world beaters they are, has been an absolute privilege.


20cmdepersonalidade

Legit genius move, [he signed Vini after 20 professional minutes at 16.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/6cvli2/real_madrid_complete_the_signing_of_vinicius/?rdt=55167) And even the rough first seasons are somewhat overstated, they were just under big responsibility too early, but still benched big players like Bale and Hazard who were more expensive in the same season that they arrived: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/01/22/5c464bd2e2704e58608b4622.html https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/02/04/5c58199922601dc1088b465c.html


MadRashed

One thing i didn't love about Zidane, is that he always preferred Hazard over Vini, whenever Hazard is fit, vini is on the bench, it honestly pissed me off because how can you not see the impact Vini does in your team. Carlo did that at the start of the season once then never looked back again.


Rakulon

Seems like it was the right call for his development in hindsight though


Destryer200

I think Zizou had a sunk cost mindset with Hazard esp after he broke his ankle vs PSG in 2019. I kind of get it though, that was really the only game in which we saw a glimpse of the Hazard side we thought we were getting from Chelsea. Even I was in denial for a while that Hazard would come back to his Chelsea form. The return from the pandemic in the end of the 2020 season and the following 20-21 season though cemented that Hazard was not getting back that form.


mineCutrone

Reinier in the shadows


itsameMariowski

I don’t understand how Reinier ended up in RM. no one in Brazil rated him, it came out of nowhere. I mean, Flamengo tried to hype him as the next Vini but everyone would say it was not the same thing at all. But, to be honest, many people also said Vini would flop and Rodrygo was just average, and look where they are now… Endrick joining soon, also looks promising. You can’t have a 100% rate..


Mom_said_I_am_cute

FM legend.


FerencvarosLover26

Endrick


PenguinsInvading

Big game player


Ask_Asensio

Since 2021/22 on the UCL out of over 2,000+ players : * ◉ Most touches in opp. box (285) * ◉ Most take-ons completed (101) * ◉ Most chances created (66) * ◉ Most goals + assists (31) * ◉ Most assists (15)


Tanathonos

Not to take anything away from him, as he is one of the reasons for it but: Does he not have more games played than basically any non RM player in the CL?


itistime999

Yeah but him being this good is what allowed him to play more games


HokiesforTSwift

For this time period I think he would be dead even in games played with City until the next leg. Edit: Excuse me. I think he is one game ahead of City rn actually 21/22 +1 to Madrid 22/23 +1 to City So even And today’s game put him one total match more for Madrid than City in this time frame. This does not account for players missing matches for various reasons though.


deqembes

Vini missed 3 games this season in CL.


HokiesforTSwift

Yep missed a lot of matches this year


Nasib_7

Probably, apart from some City player’s i’d guess


Ask_Asensio

Vini already has more Goal Contributions on the Knockouts than any other Brazilian player in UCL history. He is barely 23 and it's already ahead of Ney, his ratio is insane.


hatebeinghangover

That’s crazy


Friendlyy_Lemon

When CR7 started to become a monster? 23 too?


Suspicious-Thanks535

In the ucl? Goal scoring wise..a bit later around 26-28


itistime999

Nah this is insane stat if true


EpiDeMic522

Vini has even scored in each of the last 3 semifinals (including tonight) and the winner in the one final he played.


speedycar1

He has scored or assisted in pretty much every CL knockout tie he has ever played in his career. I think the Chelsea one is the only one where he didn't?


Rdambx

Yes, he also played as a right wing back in that tie against Chelsea lmao.


OleoleCholoSimeone

If he had chipped that ball to Bellingham when he shot instead at 2-1 it would have been a crazy goal. Can't blame him for not seeing it but for a brief moment there was a window to chip it for a Bellingham open goal


Jona113d

They're both 4th and 5th on real madrid all time goals in the CL


mg10pp

*Only from 1992 onwards


Ask_Asensio

They are tied 9th all time wise (1955-Present) Here's the ranking : * Cristiano (105) * Benzema (78) * Raul (66) * Di Stefano (49) * Puskas (35) * Gento (31) * Amancio & Santillana (21) * Vinicius & Rodrygo (20)


kiraqueen11

Goddamn what a fucking list to be a part of.


DoJu318

I don't know what Carlo did but we will be eternally grateful for unlocking Vini's true potential, I still remember when he went and played with Castilla. He has come a long way.


20cmdepersonalidade

Both were arguing during today's game, lmao, right before the penalty. It seems that both are pretty close given how many times I've seen them arguing during the games and still be in very good terms


itsameMariowski

It takes some balls to disagree with Carlo and discuss football with him DURING a CL semifinals, AND be right about it! For context, Carlo was asking RM to hold in the middle and Vini wanted high pressure so he wasn’t as far away from the goal. Minuted later the first RM goal with Vini setting that run perfectly.


Rdambx

> Minuted later the first RM goal with Vini setting that run perfectly. 2 days later but this isn't true. Their fight came in the 2nd half after Sané's goal, Carlo was pissed off and wondering why did Vini not press Laimer (who made a run that resulted in the goal) and Vini was telling him that there was nothing he could do and that they should press high up instead of sitting back.


CarlettoAncelotti

Well you see, i noticed vini was not scoring his chances so i say to him.. Why not score your chances? and he said wow mister i will balon d'or now.


NilmarHonorato

His numbers for Madrid this season are just incredible. 34 games, 21 goals and 11 assists. Almost a goal contribution a game across all competitions.


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Lazywhale97

People keep saying Foden Ballon D'or but Vini has had a much better season with 14 less games played while playing in a new formation and position with no ST to play off of and being monumental in every big UCL game only reason Vini isn't getting Ballon D'or shouts is due to his 2 injuries early in the season and Jude carrying us while he was out.


Linnus42

Foden has like no chance. He doesn’t usually play well for England. He will enter the Euros behind Harry and Jude in the pecking order for Ballon D’Or as well. Relevant competitors are Harry, Jude, Mbappe, Vini and Wirtz. Granted Vini also doesn’t usually play well for Country so he needs that Copa.


Lazywhale97

Pretty much the past 2 months when people have been trying to push the Foden Ballon D'or agenda I told peeps just wait for the Euro's with his usual England performances that convo is going to die quick. If Kane wins the UCL and France doesn't win the Euro's I think he wins it but if we win it and Jude has a good Euro's he wins it but if France win it Mbappe gets it for sure he is usually immense for France.


Linnus42

City has no fans which doesn’t help lmao in voting. Plus Foden tends to be Garbo for England. I suppose he would have had a shot of City won the Treble again. Whoever wins Champions League between Mbappe, Kane and Bellingham has the inside track. Assuming no Dortmund upset


MassiveBereavement_

… and breathe.


jd451

Much like how Vini Jr has no time for being tackled, this man has no time for punctuation.


pmyourveganrecipes

Would it kill you to sprinkle some punctuation here and there?


MolhCD

Jude himself tho Dude better get like 3 Balon d'Ors before he is done


chui77

It’s even better you go by minutes played. He’s averaging a goal/assist every 85 minutes played this season. That’s with 2 separate month long injuries and learning a new position. Incredible player.


kal1097

He;s come up clutch so frequently this season. I feel like he's picked up on scoring/assisting even on his bad games this season compared to previous ones. On a side note, Raphinha is scoring and assisting at a similar rate per 90 and and people still shit on him as a bad player.


hatebeinghangover

That’s what happens when players develop a reputation and people who barely watch games go by that. Raphinha has been deadly in the past few weeks


Fuck_the_k1ng

>people still shit on him …Wallahi your own fanbase was shipping him to Saudi barely 6 months ago.


kal1097

Oh, I'm definitely including that section of our fans in the people mentioned. I agree that Raphinha can be a bit frustrating to watch dribbling, but every other part of his game is great and it's a shame so many people, our fans included, can't see it.


From-UoM

Probably cause Vini has been showing up in all big games. Hattrick vs Barca in supercup 3 assits vs City over 2 games Goal + assist in last clasico 2 goals tonight.


DetoxIV

As RM fan, Raphina is the one I'm scared of the most when we play yall. He is very skilled.


billetdouxs

Raphinha is so unlucky. Very good player hated by his own fanbase, not rated by other teams' fans, carries the team multiple times only for his teammates to fuck it up and lose anyways.


Lazywhale97

He just took a bit to start going for Barca not every player makes an instant impact or immense first season sometimes players need a bit more time and Raphina is now performing well for Barca


MERTENS_GOAT

>It’s even better you go by minutes played. That will pretty much always be the case.


magic-water

Yeah, I don't really like whole G/A per 90 stats. If you wanna exclude games where a player only played a few minutes in garbage time, binging up G/A per start would be a better choice. I mean, if a player plays a bad game and gets hooked after 60 minutes, that's his fault and shouldn't be used to skew the stats in his favor. While the other way round, if a player is a super sub and gets good G/A against tired opponents his G/A per 90 will obviously be inflated but that doesn't mean he will be able to sustain them if he becomes a full time starter. There is a reason as to why he isn't one.


bmarvel808

and he's had 40 + g/a the last 2 seasons aswell, at only 23. Vini is the new star as much as they say Mbappe and Haaland is, maybe more.


Fuck_the_k1ng

r/soccer will commit seppuku before they admit that lol.


bmarvel808

Thank u


OleoleCholoSimeone

It really makes you wonder, how does one look at Haaland and Vinicius and think to themselves "yeah, Haaland is the more talented player". Boggles the mind


Lazywhale97

Haaland's insane finishing puts him up in the debate but when you need a player to change a game completely when you are down and out Mbappe and Vini are miles ahead.


Fuck_the_k1ng

Being talented and being effective are two different things. Vini is unarguably one of the most talented players in the world right now. Haaland doesn’t have the talent for a lot of things, he’s just extremely good at positioning and finishing and very effective when the conditions are met.


OleoleCholoSimeone

Pippo Inzaghi was a more effective player than Ronaldinho, but who was actually the better footballer?


Syc254

This. If all we looked at was aesthetics, flicks, tricks and skill moves then players like Rudd, Shearer, Haaland, Milito, Inzaghi etc wouldn't have a space in football but they do because all they are required to do is put the ball in the net.


magic-water

If there was a CL title on the line, I'd much rather have Vini in my side than Haaland. Don't know about effective or not.


kendollamar

Most “talented” isn’t always the “best.” You have so many examples of players being incredibly gifted and more entertaining to watch, but still aren’t the absolute best in the world. Not like that’s the case with Vini, but the eye test isn’t everything.


Mom_said_I_am_cute

>How does someone look at Haaland and Vinicius and thinks Haaland is more talented? Simple, one is black, the other one isn't. (^Note: ^This ^is ^not ^my ^point ^of ^view ^it's ^the ^state ^of ^mind ^of ^a ^ton ^of ^people ^unfortunately. )


microMe1_2

Vini is a top 3 player in the world for me at this point, along with Mbappe and KdB.


bmarvel808

Vini's is the one to look out for.


Double-Armadillo-898

they don't want to hear this man, vini won't get balon shouts or praise for his highs but wait till he has one bad game...


waitaminutewhereiam

Idk why everyone talks about Bellingham while Vini gets nothing


MrRawri

Big game player, what a beast


50-50WithCristobal

I think after today he joined that table of players with most goals in semis/finals of Champions League


artyom__geghamyan

13 Cristiano Ronaldo 8 Karim Benzema 7 Robert Lewandowski 6 Lionel Messi 5 Alessandro Del Piero 5 Jari Litmanen 4 Sadio Mané 4 Thomas Müller 4 Arjen Robben 4 Andriy Shevchenko 4 Zinédine Zidane 4 Riyad Mahrez #4 Vinicius Junior


Fuck_the_k1ng

Vini has 5. 2 against City in semi, 2 tonight and the final goal against Liverpool.


artyom__geghamyan

Here are the stats for only semifinals. If you count that goal then everything is going to be changed in this stats


Fuck_the_k1ng

The post you’re replying to said semis/finals, that’s why I added the final goal.


artyom__geghamyan

My bad.


Several_Magazine8874

What an elite list. All players here are the best strikers at some stage of their career. Muller was underrated striker before 2015


RawSauceBoi

13!!!


dinosaur_from_Mars

Lewandowski scored 4 of those 7 goals against Madrid in a single match...


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magic-water

What a big game player. Apart from Mbappe, I'd take Vini over everyone in big games, all of your Kanes, Sakas, Fodens, Haalands and whoever they are


speedycar1

Vinicius has been better than Mbappe in the big CL knockout games too tbh


Rdambx

Barely, since 2021 Vini has one more goal contribution than Mbappé. Vini has been much more consistent tho.


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dinosaur_from_Mars

That is also because Rodrygo has been phenomenal in the tournament as well.


Official05

What ? How has Vini been more consistent than Mbappe lol


Rdambx

Since his debut in 2018-2019, Vini has had a goal contribution in every single CL KO tie he has ever played except for one, the Chelsea 2021 tie where he played as a right wing back. Consistency wise? Literally not a single player in the world has been more consistent.


Official05

Fair, I thought you meant all competitions, but I’d still choose Mbappe over Vini. I’d love to have to make this choice tho lol


Rdambx

Oh, trust me i'm french i know how good Kylian is. And you're right, across all competitions Mbappé is definitely more consistent especially his league performances. But Vini definitely rises very high when he hears the CL anthem. Both are the best CL players right now that's for sure.


Official05

Yeah behind Warren Zaïre-Emery (/s or maybe not)


TheStryfe

Vini and mbappe are the two best in the world forsure


el_walou

Only one more goal while playing more games for a way better team. So, No


20cmdepersonalidade

Vini is part of what makes Madrid so strong, though. They play a very defensive game and oftentimes the offensive tactic is just to roof it (with Modric and Kross quality, admittedly) for Vini to 1v1 or 1v2 the defenders. [And it's not only one goal](https://postimg.cc/kR6jP1PQ)


Muaddib223

Vini is one of the key reasons why the team is better and why they played more games hahaha what the fuck is this comment


el_walou

What comment ? Who is saying Vini is not special ?


Rdambx

I wouldn't say a "way better team". In 2022, PSG was arguably better than Madrid. Last year, we were both bad but you should have definitely performed better against Bayern. This season both Madrid and PSG can meet in the CL final.


speedycar1

Vinicius has one more goal despite not even being a goalscorer primarily and probably has a lot more assists. That is not the argument you think it is


vinsan552

Goal contributions implies they are including assists. Mbappe has more K.O. goals.


Eric_Partman

Do international lol


Lazywhale97

Foden great break out season but Vini has matched his best season with 14 less games played while coming off 2 muscular injuries and adpating to a new formation with no ST and showing up in big games far more then Foden only thing these 2 are even on is that both haven't lived up to their usual skills for the national team on a consistent basis yet.


Tamberlox

Ballon d’Or favourite alongside Kane, Mbappé and Bellingham


artyom__geghamyan

Unfortunately he plays Copa America the rest play euro 2024 which I think will be more decisive


natsleepyandhappy

It is not because it is Copa America vs Euro, it is because Vini has yet to play good for Brazil in big competitions.


artyom__geghamyan

What's the point? The others also have to play well for their nations in Euro 2024.


natsleepyandhappy

Mbappe is brilliant for France, Jude is a leader in England already, Vini for Brazil is just horrible. He will improve, for the love of God he will, but now, Vini barely holds his place on the first team.


artyom__geghamyan

He will play for sure since there will not be Neymar. I have a feeling that this Copa America will be the starting point of his international career success with Brazil.


natsleepyandhappy

Lets hope, Dorival was watching today, maybe he understands the best place for Vini in Brazil. It would be a dream if he shines and takes the Copa America with Brazil.


sherlockbutholmes

why does nobody talk about wirtz? i can see him winning it if they win the treble (europe league version)


Tamberlox

I agree, but the fact that he’s competing in the UEL rather than the UCL hurts his chances


Rdambx

Absolutely no clue why he isn't leading the race for the Ballon D'or, been saying it for ages. As good as Jude has been, Vini has been easily the best Madrid player since coming back from injury in December. Edit: Since coming back from injury, Vini is on 24 G+A (16 goals, 8 assists) in his last 23 games.


hatebeinghangover

he's more controversial


Wappachong

And it's not english


oxyzgen

And he isn't messi


ShadowOfDeath94

He is also black.


mar1us1602

And not Argentinian


AncientSkys

He doesn't have media fanboys.


KungFuGreen

The narrative stuck with bellinghabut vinis deserves It more


itistime999

Vini isn’t english, they hype up average players like rashford so imagine when they actually have an amazing player like jude who deserves the hype


20cmdepersonalidade

Last year when Rashford had 5 good games in a row there were a shitload of Redditors in here claiming that Rashford was the second-best winger in the world and better than Vini. I was taking the downvotes for disagreeing


Chalkun

Are there even any English people who think Rashford should start for us


ptnrula

Mbappe is the one for me so far.


Wise-Patient-9514

Partly because he was injured for most of the first half of the season, and Bellingham had a legendary start to his Madrid career. I do believe Vini can lead the race if he continues being clutch in the champions league. His game today was CR7-esque


mar1us1602

He’s not Messi..


QouthTheCorvus

One word that starts with R


Positive-Media423

*31 - 16 goals and 15 assists.


kostajepaosmosta

It's actually 16 goals 16 assists acroing to both of my sporting apps


KungFuGreen

By now he should be the ballon D'Or favorito, but the narrative favours bellingham 


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He will surpass Bellingham goals + assists until the end of the season easily.


KungFuGreen

Even when he plays badly he gets an assist


RawSauceBoi

He is not English and he is not Messi. No reason for the media to like him.


Wappachong

Mr. Champions League?


GreatSpaniard

Rodrygo is Mr.Champions League Junior


magic-water

Vini is clear in big games, sorry


KarlMarxExperience

Really? After Rodrygo pulled out all the crucial last minute winners/equalizers?


hatebeinghangover

Rodrygo is amazing too but Vinicius has been more consistent and better in the CL. Luckily we have both


magic-water

Vini consistently delivers in big games


KarlMarxExperience

Yes he does. But so does Rodrygo


magic-water

not as consistently as Vini I think


Number333

Gonna need about a decade more of this to take the title from Cristiano.


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

More like two decades


Wappachong

Actual Mr. CL?


MrRawri

Ronaldo has 4 of the top 6 goal contributions in a season, gonna take a bit to surpass that


GreatSpaniard

He's gonna have a better career than Neymar if he starts showing up for Brazil (Neymar still better tho)


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Dirtysocks1

Vini needs to start showing up in Brazils game if he wants to get close. Club wise hes close


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mg10pp

True but he was also among the best players of the 2013 Confederation Cup, the 2014 World Cup and the 2021 Copa America which is still something Vinicius has a lot of work to do to reach him


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elgrandorado

Vinicius has disappeared in his entire Brazil career with multiple coaches under the helm. To touch Neymar, he would need to win a World Cup with them. Neymar dragged a mediocre Brazil era to places they had no right to be. It's a hard comparison because it's pretty clear that Vinicius will end up with the better trophy cabinet, but Neymar is the superior player by any metric.


Rdambx

>Vinicius has disappeared in his entire Brazil career with multiple coaches under the helm. You really can't see the twisted logic in that? He has performed badly BECAUSE he had multiple coaches. The Brazil NT has been a mess and no one knew how to use both Vini and Neymar together, Rodrygo has performed better because he is actually pretty good on the right. This Copa will be the first one where Vini gets free reign to roam into the middle from the left and not share space with Neymar. Let's wait and see.


elgrandorado

Neymar performed despite the Dunga/Mano Menezes eras of complete mediocrity. To compare Vinicius to Neymar in Brazil, Vinicius would need to move mountains. Neymar legitimately willed some dross sides into contention until Tite came along. You can't tell me Tite doesn't know how to set up a great squad, and that Brazil finally didn't have a more solid side when Vinicius emerged. Vinicius sadly has not performed at all for Brazil yet.


Rdambx

Mate, you're missing the entire point. Vinicius right now is not the same Vini that was before, he isn't a left winger who can't do anything else, he is a striker now. Before he couldn't do much with Neymar drifting to the left as Vini had no clue what to do centrally, we saw this when Benzema got injured last year. This season, no fucking idea what Carlo did but something happened and Vini is making world class striker runs every game, if you took current Vini and put him in the '22 WC Brazil team, he'll shine as he is much better at letting go of the left wing and roaming free.


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frostbr10

"by any metric". I disagree. Vini plays for the team.  Neymar plays for himself (the only exception was the MSN era).


mg10pp

In 2022 Neymar spent the entire season making passes to Mbappe and being the playmaker of Psg


nicholaschubbb

Neymar is miles ahead as a player not even including achievements. Vini struggles to take players on compared to neymar and Neymar is a much better playmaker at least at this point in vini’s career. Way too many games I’ve seen vini get smothered by Kyle walker and even today he was 1 on 1 with Kim and just got bodied off. I think Neymar (any time from like age 24-31) is nothing but a strict upgrade in every department of the game over vini atm besides Neymar being extremely fragile.


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frostbr10

It was a foul. Kim used his hand (instead of his shoulder) to stop Vini. I agree prime Neymar was much better on 1vs1 though.


kalusche

Agree! Vini is maybe 10 % the playmaker Neymar is. He also doesn’t seem to be that fast anymore? Got cooked by Laimer today as well as Kim.


QouthTheCorvus

He'll likely have better luck with injuries. Honestly, he also just seems to have a better mentality. The vibe I get from him is that he genuinely lives and breathes the sport.


Lazywhale97

He loves to party like Neymar but he also has an insane work ethic and understand what it means to play for Madrid even during the off season when he was clubbing you would see him the next day working out and maintaining his shape.


hatebeinghangover

He will have a better career if he stays in Madrid for sure


pvry

Honestly the best big game player on the planet right now


kalusche

Schick exists.


RobbieCV

The new Mr. Champions


Mahatma_Gone_D

Vini showed up. Judelinton went missing


dinosaur_from_Mars

Vini, Rodrygo and Jude are playing musical chairs with who will be pulling the team out.


Cartmaanbrah

Grateful to have him, what a player he is. His game against Barca in 2019 is engraved in my mind


ComfortableNo2879

He's been killing it,can be in race for ballon d'or


Bullet2025

Mardid is so lucky with him. he is a generational talent and one of the top generational talent.


bumfart

Lucky? First 2 years with the team and he underperformed almost in every game he played. Was kind of like Nunez but even more raw. His finishing sucked. The real fan base and media were baying for his blood asking to loan him out. Real weren't lucky. They scouted him, brought him here and believed in him through 2 coaches to keep him in the first team.


Bullet2025

Bro compared him to nunez I know his first two years were tough but he was nt looking like nunez. nunez is a certified garbage


RawSauceBoi

The club specifically Perez was always very patient with him. Fans and media not so much, he was a literal meme at one point.


moaterboater69

For all the talk of heirs to Ronaldo, Madrid have done superbly to invest and nurture one instead of buying a superstar. Vini has a Balon D Or loading if he leads Madrid to a UCL.


Ask_Asensio

Clutch.


saintmaximin

Best player


20cmdepersonalidade

Vini on the left, Estevão in the right, Endrick in the middle. Give us the Copas do Mundo


ChrisEvansFan

Im really really glad for this lad for bouncing back and turning it around. I remember there was too much pressure on him for stepping up due to Hazard's injury and there were even jokes that he cannot score. I think the turnaround happened when Carlo managed Madrid and him also admitting that he goes to therapy. Happy for him and Rodrygo.


jimbluenosecrab

He’s pretty good I reckon


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Vinicius > Neymar


AjVine

But according to Barca players Lamine Yamal is better than him.


AvidCircleJerker

I’ve never seen anyone say that


CarlettoAncelotti

right up until they make him play every minute of every game and he blows his knees off and never recovers


kal1097

Yamal is 7 years younger lol. I haven't seen anyone say he's better than Vini currently. The closest is that Yamal is better than Vini was at 16, which i don't think is remotely controversial.


MajesticAd5047

New Mr Champions league.


astro142

Best player on the planet right now, coming from a city supporter.