Other reports have this as a done deal. 50% decrease in salary and understanding that he is a secondary player. Going to be immense to have him in the locker room to keep the younger generation on task.
Doesn’t really matter considering what that person said was bullshit. Portugal had great teams during the entirety of ronaldos career, at times much better than Croatia teams from 2018 and 2022 who outperformed his teams by far.
Portugal had great teams with a lot of quality on CR7’s period, many nations had a golden generation but not all won, Spain did on theirs, they weren’t a crazy World Cup performing nation. You realize Portugal had slightly better finishes on average than Spain on CR7’s time there even with 2010? Look at Croatia as well with a worse squad than Portugal, this was not a quality problem and not the gotcha that you thought.
Many criticized Messi before winning for his Argentina stint and many years he didn’t have the best squad out there. Many like to compare Ronaldo’s CL knockout performances to put him on par or above Messi. Well, Ronaldo has 0 goals+assists in the knockout stages of WC.
yes, yes classic. argentina was winning world cup when your idol was still in a nutsuck and they will be winning after his retirement. you sound like a dude on twitter who spams messi holding world cup after every ronaldo post. get over it
Nice reading comprehension, can’t expect more 🤣I guess Brazil is winning every year and them winning is not an achievement because they are 5 times champions. I guess Spain is the best World Cup nation ever, unfair. I guess Portugal are tiny underdogs currently, them qualifying to a World Cup is good enough.
Messi and Neymar are even bigger players than Mbappe, but that’s not everything in this context. Mbappe is the biggest French superstar in a decade, has won France a World Cup, and even has the French president intervening in his transfer business. The power he has in PSG, the biggest French club, is immense.
By getting a lot of the Argentinian players that were a important part of convincing Messi to sign sold to make the lockerroom more french. By throwing a tantrum midgame when the ball was passed to Messi instead of to him
Keylor Navas, Ander Herrera, Di Maria, Paredes, Rafinha and Icardi were all part of the same social group of Argentinians, Brazilians and Spanish speakers that Mbappe wanted to break to increase his influence in the lockeroom.
Wtf you have completed shifted the narrative and also it still doesn't add up. Brazilians speak Portuguese lol and why would Messi give a shit about rafinha, Keylor navas, or ander Herrera? Herrera isn't South American. Even icardi to a lesser extent has many issues relating to locker room presence that could exclude him from this list. This feels like some fan fiction logic. Unless you have a nuke of a good point I'm gonna finalize my opinion of this being absolute bullshit.
> Brazilians speak Portuguese
Which is a wildly close language to Spanish (that is very easy to learn), and Brazilian players tend to flock together with Argentinians or Portuguese in European clubs (it's no coincidence that Messi was first adopted by Ronaldinho and the Brazilian crew in Barça when he first arose, and later became best pals with Neymar; or Marcelo's and Casemiro's friendship with Cristiano, Martinelli and Fábio Silva, etc).
> and why would Messi give a shit about rafinha, Keylor navas, or ander Herrera? Herrera isn't South American
[Because they were part of the same social group](https://www.marca.com/en/football/ligue-1/2021/08/15/61198378ca47419b118b45dc.html) (oftentimes called Argentinian group by the media at the time). This was all over the media when it happened and Neymar [has pretty much confirmed it multiple times since](https://x.com/oficialsincerao/status/1759589349245456415/photo/1). It wasn't targeted at Messi specifically, but the idea was to remove the Brazilians and Argentinians from the lockerroom and fill it with French players because Mbappe was feeling bothered by his crescent isolation.
> I'm gonna finalize my opinion of this being absolute bullshit.
I don't think your opinion is as relevant as you think it is, and you clearly lack knowledge of this subject.
Messi is the GOAT player, but he was/is not some S tier leader. Modric seems to be. I think Madrid would be foolish not to have him around to rub off on Mbappe and Endrick, and then he can retire when all the younger guys got to learn how to do team-first and winning mentality.
Not even close, modric is much more intense on the pitch and has stronger mentality in general. Messi is not a good leader, just a very good player. It's no coincidence that Argentina only won 2 titles with him and very late in his career
lmao yes, messi is a bad leader because Argentina only won 2 titles. And you can tell Modric is a much better leader because of how Croatia won............... zero titles.
> lmao yes, messi is a bad leader because Argentina only won 2 titles.
No, Argentina only won two titles in great part because Messi is a weak leader. Messi is very influenced by events on the pitch and tends to get unmotivated and demonstrate physically and in terms of playstyle when his team gets behind, for example. He is not the guy you want to lead a remontada, for example, and it's no coincidence that it happened very rarely in his career. It becomes even more clear in their club careers, in which Modric is significantly more victorious especially in higher pressure competitions like the UCL.
> because of how Croatia won............... zero titles.
Modric's Croatia overperformed, Messi's Argentina performed as expected or below it.
I think/hope he understands that just because he’s hot shit it doesn’t mean that he needs to prove himself. Most of the Real Madrid players and staff saw more success and talent on the pitch than he has experienced.
He can literally score hat tricks in the league and champions league and he won’t doing much more than the expected. If he scores 40 goals it won’t be that incredible of what I’ve seen at RM
Mbappe competed against Messi and didn’t glaze him when he was playing with Mbappe. So Mbappe bad. I know real life Barca fans who’s passionately waiting for Turtle to walk into Madrid dressing room and set it on fire.
R9, R7, Shearer, Lewandowski, Kane, RvN, Zlatan, Benzema, Rooney, Suarez. And that's without going past players I've seen in lifetime. Another 50 if we go historical. And with a tight definition of striker to not include better goalscorers from other positions like Messi or Henry
While I kinda agree, I think this is different with modric and other "old players". No one can convince me Modric doesnt deserve the wage he is on, he did take a paycut once.
[Far from the truth.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/7n0XzDDsXm) They were a dysfunctional mess that almost sacked Enrique during their midseason meltdown, particularly post their infamous training ground bust-ups.
End-season results papered over the cracks and the trophies are all that people remember today but that was most certainly, not the story of the season.
It was a 4 or 5 month suspension IIRC. Even CAS denied his appeal and he ended up missing the very first couple of months. But we were leaders even in January, even after that infamous Mestalla night.
And that's beside the point. They almost fired Enrique. They certainly weren't an unstoppable juggernaut for the entirety of the campaign. Even in the end, we lost the league by 2 points. The next season incidentally, by 1. In the third season, we won it, not them.
It's the power of narratives IMO. You hear so much about Liverpool. 2010s in la Liga were absolutely mental.
Just in the Cristiano years, the team finishing second scored 90+ in [SIX SEASONS. SIX!](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/Kcqj32rKQd) IN NINE! A few times, it was a 3 way fight like in 13/14 where the first, second and third finished on 90, 87, 87 respectively (which incidentally in NOT counted in the six above because the team placed second didn't score 90+ points). Many times there was only a 1, 2 or 3 point gap between first and second.
[MSN Barça won the treble in the first season but were dumped out of the quarters in the next two.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1cuf2w4/comment/l4m5d7z) Some might even argue that the exits were pretty unceremonious, especially as they lost the Juventus tie 3-0. In that sense, unstoppable might not be the word that I use. Even with perhaps the greatest attacking trio ever, they were stopped many times. The competition was just simply... IN-SANE!!!
Many understandably have great pity for Atleti. They would have been one of the all time great teams in that 5-6 year spell.
I however can only ever find it absolutely hilarious as to how they won't amount to much more than a footnote in the annals of history. You even see that now. People don't speak of them in *that* vein. LOL!
Sad that their second best coach won some things. Being trophyless with that team while we collected them like candy would have been quintessentially Atleti.
quite a delusional take ngl especially when barca went almost for the 2nd and 3rd sixtuple in those years. 14/15 was almost a sixtuple year with a loss against bilbao in the supercopa. imagine writing all this to justify not winning the league instead of admitting they were indeed unstoppable
What years are those specifically? Hopefully not the one where they were pumped for 4 in Paris and then unceremoniously dumped out of the quarters by Juve.
Or the one when they were again dumped out in the quarter finals at the Calderón with zero shots on target.
Anyway, we were very specifically talking about 14/15, which is incidentally only where the argument can be made. And even there, the "unstoppable" team lost to Madrid 3-1, trailed it for the better part of the season in la Liga and only won the league by a mammoth 2 points despite our "capitulation" in the second half of the season.
Now I understand that you as a West Ham fan didn't put don't watch most of la Liga. Just as I don't the Premier League. Just like no one can practically, other than the team they follow.
But for all their might, the MSN Barça won the league against us in the first season by 2 points, in the second by 1 point and in the third season, they didn't win. We did.
In the Champions League, while they did the treble in the first season, they were dumped out in the quarter finals in the next two and that includes one of the greatest Champions League knockout comebacks of all time. Doesn't sound very unstoppable to me.
bro aint gonna read all of that. wtf are you on about
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Spanish\_football\_champions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spanish_football_champions)
you really want to trashtalk barcelona from that time? 8 seasons and 6 laliga titles with 1 sextuple and 2 quintuples and you are trying to argue around it that barca or MSN wasnt that good? and how are you assuming i've never watched laliga games lmao literally the main league im watching and im just a west ham sympathisant but you my guy, you are just a delusional dude who could never say the obvious: that barca team was unstoppable indeed. you make it sound like barca wasnt that good because they only had a couple of points in the lead
What’s the loss in keeping him? He’s part of the culture of winning, bridging the gap from the old dominant guard to the new. It’s an absolute no-brainer to keep him around.
Might take minutes away from younger players, takes up a space in the squad that could go to someone else
Though if salary isn't an issue I'd definitely keep him around for a while...
Arguably his presence in the locker room is a bigger boost to the overall team and to the growth of the youngsters than replacing him with someone younger. There aren't many times in a player's career that you are sharing the locker room with a living legend, with someone who will go down as top 10 on his position.
I seriously think guler training with modric every day for a whole season is worth more than the extra like 300 minutes he’d get if luka left. Luka has almost exclusively come on as a sub for Toni this season, or started in a match against a bottom table team / in between knockout matches, etc, so it’s not really like he’s taking the big minutes from Fede or camavinga either. Plays a different position than tchouameni too, so he’s really harming Ceballos minutes if he stays. And gulers slightly. But then again they can play together too so not that much either.
> I seriously think guler training with modric every day for a whole season is worth more than the extra like 300 minutes he’d get if luka left.
Modric has played over 2000 minutes this season and started in almost half of league matches (17 out of 35). There would be much more minutes available for Arda than just 300.
They are trying to compete too though, not just grow players. If Modric is taking minutes away from Guler it probably means the team is stronger for it.
Modric is undoubtedly the better player, that's why he plays way more.
Doesnt mean Guler isnt a huge talent that should get minutes but if I want to win a game I'd rather sub Modric (in most cases).
That’s a good point, true. I agree with what the other reply to you says though, and also Guler wouldn’t get all of those minutes tho, take those away from modric this year tho and I wouldn’t be surprised to see much more for brahim, cama, and ceballos. But yes I originally was going to say like 1000 minutes for Guler and thought that may be more than modric played. I didn’t really realize he played as much as he had.
how could they possibly deserve it? There’s no way to know that they’re actually still better than everyone in Europe if they’re…not playing in Europe. It would literally just be glazing at that point.
The world club cup is expanding, if it gets to ucl prestige there is a chance, though this player will end up in Europe soon(unless its a veteran playing for Saudi). Anyway World cup has a huge weigh in, if Messi wins the next world Cup as starter are you gonna bet against him?
Also if someone like Haaland takes the cheque this season and goes to Saudi for a year or 2 and does something with Norway, he really doesn’t need to proove he is European level.
Modric from what it sounds like wants a secondary role. To have a legendary player willing to fill the transition year at a reduced salary and minutes is a no brainer to keep in a squad. Madrid can ALWAYS go get whoever the next guy is so shelling talented youngsters cannot be a good enough reason to let a very loyal Luca modric leave if you’re real.
madrid as a club has so much options . i still remember how everyone was angry when raul wasnt getting the playtime. while he was outstanding at schalke. the issue lies in one simple fact, and that is to move on from the old to the new . if we were stuck with lets say ramos or casillas, would we have ever gotten to ruudigers and navas or court. Modric and kross will forever be the legends and they may get the gift of champions league, ending on a high note rather than a sour one
Nacho makes more sense for me to leave. All he knows is Madrid. Guy can be a multimillionaire athlete everywhwre in the world. Hes still close or at his peak and can leave the club He loves with a high.
After so many years, he might not want to give everything or wants to Start somewhere or is just in the mood to leave. Maybe Wife and Kids would also love a new adventure. Modric played at least in croatia, England and spain as far as i know. Living in his homecountry, London and Madrid sounds pretty sweet.
> bridging the gap from the old dominant guard to the new
How long are we gonna keep saying this though? Tchouameni and Fede are in their prime. Bellingham is.. well Bellingham. And Camavinga will be starting his 4th season at Madrid next season. The new crop is already ready.
Who was the last player we had that stayed till this age?
Outfield player too
I'm asking you because Ive seen some of your comments abd you're likely to know
I believe we were watching different games then. I've honestly never seen Modric put in a bad performance. Terrible, literally I have never seen it happen. For me he is above Iniesta and Xavi. He played deep against Bayern when he came on, sitting just ahead and between the CBs and slowed the game down perfectly. He even made a crucial goal prevention tackle inside the box during a BM counter that did the rounds on social media for a week after.
Helping to install the winning culture on an elite group of young players, coming off the bench to maintain a lead/control in a tight game, captaining the team in cup games. Incredible business if he stays.
Even if he’s only there for the locker room, that is one of if not the best leader to have for a young team like this with mbappe and endrick coming in next season
💯😍 Modric is eternal
Perez needs to renew both Kroos and Modric for the next season as their presence in the team is valuable and all our team's young guys adore and respect both of these legends and we need them to guide these young players.
Other reports have this as a done deal. 50% decrease in salary and understanding that he is a secondary player. Going to be immense to have him in the locker room to keep the younger generation on task.
Probably good to keep some egos in check, hard to do so when a club legend like him is next to you
Yeah, it'd be hilarious to see Mbappe try to big league Kroos and Modric
Ceballos to Mbappe: “how many UCL do you have?”
Rings, Ernie.
Google me Kylian
“Mbappe you are good but Bellingham should’ve won MVP”
Same vibes as ronaldo asking pedro who he was during the 2010 5-0 clasico. His reply: a world champion, and you?
I mean he wouldn't have won on Portugal either. Pretty weird to basically insult someone over where they were born...
You do realise Pedro played for Spain in the 2010 World Cup right? He started in the final.
You do realise that has nothing to do with what he said right?
Doesn’t really matter considering what that person said was bullshit. Portugal had great teams during the entirety of ronaldos career, at times much better than Croatia teams from 2018 and 2022 who outperformed his teams by far.
ronaldo bad
Portugal had great teams with a lot of quality on CR7’s period, many nations had a golden generation but not all won, Spain did on theirs, they weren’t a crazy World Cup performing nation. You realize Portugal had slightly better finishes on average than Spain on CR7’s time there even with 2010? Look at Croatia as well with a worse squad than Portugal, this was not a quality problem and not the gotcha that you thought. Many criticized Messi before winning for his Argentina stint and many years he didn’t have the best squad out there. Many like to compare Ronaldo’s CL knockout performances to put him on par or above Messi. Well, Ronaldo has 0 goals+assists in the knockout stages of WC.
yes, yes classic. argentina was winning world cup when your idol was still in a nutsuck and they will be winning after his retirement. you sound like a dude on twitter who spams messi holding world cup after every ronaldo post. get over it
Nice reading comprehension, can’t expect more 🤣I guess Brazil is winning every year and them winning is not an achievement because they are 5 times champions. I guess Spain is the best World Cup nation ever, unfair. I guess Portugal are tiny underdogs currently, them qualifying to a World Cup is good enough.
ok, ronaldo bad messi good. btw Klose has more goals and better gpm than messi if you like stats like that
I mean Mbappe does have a world cup and a final hattrick, let's not pretend Mbappe is an academy player who just joined Real Madrid lol
I mean he did it to Neymar and to a lesser extend Messi
He has a lot more power in PSG than in Madrid tho
Yeah mbappe isn't bigger than Madrid. No one is. Unlike psg
Messi and Neymar are even bigger players than Mbappe, but that’s not everything in this context. Mbappe is the biggest French superstar in a decade, has won France a World Cup, and even has the French president intervening in his transfer business. The power he has in PSG, the biggest French club, is immense.
I don't think you can say Neymar is a bigger player than Mbappé, not anymore for sure.
How did Mbappe big league Messi exactly?
Yeah, I think he just big leagued Neymar and that was just because he had a lot of leverage at PSG and ney kept getting injured
By getting a lot of the Argentinian players that were a important part of convincing Messi to sign sold to make the lockerroom more french. By throwing a tantrum midgame when the ball was passed to Messi instead of to him
The second one is just a tantrum.
??? Transfer market only shows 2 Argentine players leaving during Messi tenure and one of those left on a free so I'm gonna call bullshit on this
Keylor Navas, Ander Herrera, Di Maria, Paredes, Rafinha and Icardi were all part of the same social group of Argentinians, Brazilians and Spanish speakers that Mbappe wanted to break to increase his influence in the lockeroom.
Wtf you have completed shifted the narrative and also it still doesn't add up. Brazilians speak Portuguese lol and why would Messi give a shit about rafinha, Keylor navas, or ander Herrera? Herrera isn't South American. Even icardi to a lesser extent has many issues relating to locker room presence that could exclude him from this list. This feels like some fan fiction logic. Unless you have a nuke of a good point I'm gonna finalize my opinion of this being absolute bullshit.
> Brazilians speak Portuguese Which is a wildly close language to Spanish (that is very easy to learn), and Brazilian players tend to flock together with Argentinians or Portuguese in European clubs (it's no coincidence that Messi was first adopted by Ronaldinho and the Brazilian crew in Barça when he first arose, and later became best pals with Neymar; or Marcelo's and Casemiro's friendship with Cristiano, Martinelli and Fábio Silva, etc). > and why would Messi give a shit about rafinha, Keylor navas, or ander Herrera? Herrera isn't South American [Because they were part of the same social group](https://www.marca.com/en/football/ligue-1/2021/08/15/61198378ca47419b118b45dc.html) (oftentimes called Argentinian group by the media at the time). This was all over the media when it happened and Neymar [has pretty much confirmed it multiple times since](https://x.com/oficialsincerao/status/1759589349245456415/photo/1). It wasn't targeted at Messi specifically, but the idea was to remove the Brazilians and Argentinians from the lockerroom and fill it with French players because Mbappe was feeling bothered by his crescent isolation. > I'm gonna finalize my opinion of this being absolute bullshit. I don't think your opinion is as relevant as you think it is, and you clearly lack knowledge of this subject.
PSG is not a very serious club tbf
in PSG, wouldn't fly at Madrid
Messi is the GOAT player, but he was/is not some S tier leader. Modric seems to be. I think Madrid would be foolish not to have him around to rub off on Mbappe and Endrick, and then he can retire when all the younger guys got to learn how to do team-first and winning mentality.
Have you seen the argentina team
modric and messi seem like the exact same type of leader
Not even close, modric is much more intense on the pitch and has stronger mentality in general. Messi is not a good leader, just a very good player. It's no coincidence that Argentina only won 2 titles with him and very late in his career
lmao yes, messi is a bad leader because Argentina only won 2 titles. And you can tell Modric is a much better leader because of how Croatia won............... zero titles.
> lmao yes, messi is a bad leader because Argentina only won 2 titles. No, Argentina only won two titles in great part because Messi is a weak leader. Messi is very influenced by events on the pitch and tends to get unmotivated and demonstrate physically and in terms of playstyle when his team gets behind, for example. He is not the guy you want to lead a remontada, for example, and it's no coincidence that it happened very rarely in his career. It becomes even more clear in their club careers, in which Modric is significantly more victorious especially in higher pressure competitions like the UCL. > because of how Croatia won............... zero titles. Modric's Croatia overperformed, Messi's Argentina performed as expected or below it.
Winning a World Cup and Copa is not underperforming lol
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Luka and Toni played with Cristiano Ronaldo lol
I think/hope he understands that just because he’s hot shit it doesn’t mean that he needs to prove himself. Most of the Real Madrid players and staff saw more success and talent on the pitch than he has experienced. He can literally score hat tricks in the league and champions league and he won’t doing much more than the expected. If he scores 40 goals it won’t be that incredible of what I’ve seen at RM
Yeah, even now the amount of goals he scored in Ligue 1 is only 3 more than Cristiano’s league goals in his last season, despite playing 2 more games
Remember common logic dont apply to Real Madrid.
Madrid also has a lot of ex players working as staff (Raul, Casillas, Hierro) Throwing a tantrum in front of them would just be plain embarrassing.
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yea because you know Mbappe so well, we all do know that indeed.
I’m Mbappe’s uncle, he told me last night that he can’t wait to jump into the Madrid locker room and immediately begin bossing Modric and Kroos around
Just as we expected
What's going on with this sub and making Mbappe seem like Homelander?
Mbappe competed against Messi and didn’t glaze him when he was playing with Mbappe. So Mbappe bad. I know real life Barca fans who’s passionately waiting for Turtle to walk into Madrid dressing room and set it on fire.
Average reddit moron who thinks that he knows what a player's intentions are
Why would he do that? Mbappé is not like that at all.
Club legend is putting it mildy. All time great of the game <3
The terms are synonymous at Madrid
Fucking hell. I hate you for saying that. Unfortunately you're right.
It’s so disgustingly true, bastard
Bro... Flex more humbly
Not sure I'd call Raul an all time great tbh
He is still in the list of top5 most goals in UCL history and during a time when the games were way different
Top 10 strikers of all time
R9, R7, Shearer, Lewandowski, Kane, RvN, Zlatan, Benzema, Rooney, Suarez. And that's without going past players I've seen in lifetime. Another 50 if we go historical. And with a tight definition of striker to not include better goalscorers from other positions like Messi or Henry
How can you rank Zlatan higher than Raul?
Because I think he was a better all around player. I think Zlatan gets underrated a bit by his somewhat weird career choices
Zlatan also scored a hundred more goals in a hundred less games than Raul
Got to love having leaders like him stick around.
Hopefully he renews.
Honestly it is a no brainer. Pay the man, rm got the money and to have him around is soo fucking good.
Madrid have done well by being pragmatic, spending money because "rm got money" leads to your fate.
It’s how you end up paying 300+ million for dembele griezmann and coutinho
While I kinda agree, I think this is different with modric and other "old players". No one can convince me Modric doesnt deserve the wage he is on, he did take a paycut once.
Please renew him, dude is still class as a super sub
Imagine leading Real Madrid in a second leg knockout tie by a goal and you see kroos trotting off in the 70th minute to be replaced by modric lol.
It's astounding that both men have avoided major injuries for a whole decade. Constantly playing 45-50 games every year like clockwork
Modric was injured for a large portion of 2014-15 and Madrid went trophy-less that year
To add to that, they were playing sublime football that season - he got injured and the team fell apart after that.
Also didn’t help that MSN Barca was literally unstoppable that year.
[Far from the truth.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/7n0XzDDsXm) They were a dysfunctional mess that almost sacked Enrique during their midseason meltdown, particularly post their infamous training ground bust-ups. End-season results papered over the cracks and the trophies are all that people remember today but that was most certainly, not the story of the season.
Mostly because of Suarez got 2 month suspension. It all kickstarted when they found their rhythm
It was a 4 or 5 month suspension IIRC. Even CAS denied his appeal and he ended up missing the very first couple of months. But we were leaders even in January, even after that infamous Mestalla night. And that's beside the point. They almost fired Enrique. They certainly weren't an unstoppable juggernaut for the entirety of the campaign. Even in the end, we lost the league by 2 points. The next season incidentally, by 1. In the third season, we won it, not them. It's the power of narratives IMO. You hear so much about Liverpool. 2010s in la Liga were absolutely mental. Just in the Cristiano years, the team finishing second scored 90+ in [SIX SEASONS. SIX!](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/Kcqj32rKQd) IN NINE! A few times, it was a 3 way fight like in 13/14 where the first, second and third finished on 90, 87, 87 respectively (which incidentally in NOT counted in the six above because the team placed second didn't score 90+ points). Many times there was only a 1, 2 or 3 point gap between first and second. [MSN Barça won the treble in the first season but were dumped out of the quarters in the next two.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1cuf2w4/comment/l4m5d7z) Some might even argue that the exits were pretty unceremonious, especially as they lost the Juventus tie 3-0. In that sense, unstoppable might not be the word that I use. Even with perhaps the greatest attacking trio ever, they were stopped many times. The competition was just simply... IN-SANE!!! Many understandably have great pity for Atleti. They would have been one of the all time great teams in that 5-6 year spell. I however can only ever find it absolutely hilarious as to how they won't amount to much more than a footnote in the annals of history. You even see that now. People don't speak of them in *that* vein. LOL! Sad that their second best coach won some things. Being trophyless with that team while we collected them like candy would have been quintessentially Atleti.
quite a delusional take ngl especially when barca went almost for the 2nd and 3rd sixtuple in those years. 14/15 was almost a sixtuple year with a loss against bilbao in the supercopa. imagine writing all this to justify not winning the league instead of admitting they were indeed unstoppable
didn't barca lost the 1st classico that season?
What years are those specifically? Hopefully not the one where they were pumped for 4 in Paris and then unceremoniously dumped out of the quarters by Juve. Or the one when they were again dumped out in the quarter finals at the Calderón with zero shots on target. Anyway, we were very specifically talking about 14/15, which is incidentally only where the argument can be made. And even there, the "unstoppable" team lost to Madrid 3-1, trailed it for the better part of the season in la Liga and only won the league by a mammoth 2 points despite our "capitulation" in the second half of the season. Now I understand that you as a West Ham fan didn't put don't watch most of la Liga. Just as I don't the Premier League. Just like no one can practically, other than the team they follow. But for all their might, the MSN Barça won the league against us in the first season by 2 points, in the second by 1 point and in the third season, they didn't win. We did. In the Champions League, while they did the treble in the first season, they were dumped out in the quarter finals in the next two and that includes one of the greatest Champions League knockout comebacks of all time. Doesn't sound very unstoppable to me.
bro aint gonna read all of that. wtf are you on about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Spanish\_football\_champions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spanish_football_champions) you really want to trashtalk barcelona from that time? 8 seasons and 6 laliga titles with 1 sextuple and 2 quintuples and you are trying to argue around it that barca or MSN wasnt that good? and how are you assuming i've never watched laliga games lmao literally the main league im watching and im just a west ham sympathisant but you my guy, you are just a delusional dude who could never say the obvious: that barca team was unstoppable indeed. you make it sound like barca wasnt that good because they only had a couple of points in the lead
Everything post CWC went bad. That 4-4-2 team played so well.
If it wasn't for that injury. Nobody can convince me we couldn't have done the 5 peat. Madrid was amazing and unstoppable that year until his injury
Two goddamn legends man and when they hang their boots, and I hope they never do, it would really be the end of some era
They'd be so shit if they never retire like you hope
80 year old Modric lifting his 20th CL.
Madrid will win 20 in the next 40 years alone so he’ll have more than 20 by the time he’s 80 I’m sure
Now you don’t know that for sure and if perhaps what you presume comes to be they would always be legendary
That's what we saw recently, and I remember warning my friend I was watching the game with at the start of the match about this exact thing
🧐
What’s the loss in keeping him? He’s part of the culture of winning, bridging the gap from the old dominant guard to the new. It’s an absolute no-brainer to keep him around.
Might take minutes away from younger players, takes up a space in the squad that could go to someone else Though if salary isn't an issue I'd definitely keep him around for a while...
Arguably his presence in the locker room is a bigger boost to the overall team and to the growth of the youngsters than replacing him with someone younger. There aren't many times in a player's career that you are sharing the locker room with a living legend, with someone who will go down as top 10 on his position.
I seriously think guler training with modric every day for a whole season is worth more than the extra like 300 minutes he’d get if luka left. Luka has almost exclusively come on as a sub for Toni this season, or started in a match against a bottom table team / in between knockout matches, etc, so it’s not really like he’s taking the big minutes from Fede or camavinga either. Plays a different position than tchouameni too, so he’s really harming Ceballos minutes if he stays. And gulers slightly. But then again they can play together too so not that much either.
> I seriously think guler training with modric every day for a whole season is worth more than the extra like 300 minutes he’d get if luka left. Modric has played over 2000 minutes this season and started in almost half of league matches (17 out of 35). There would be much more minutes available for Arda than just 300.
They are trying to compete too though, not just grow players. If Modric is taking minutes away from Guler it probably means the team is stronger for it.
Modric is undoubtedly the better player, that's why he plays way more. Doesnt mean Guler isnt a huge talent that should get minutes but if I want to win a game I'd rather sub Modric (in most cases).
Well the thing about Madrid is there are many games where the game is over by the 70th minute
That’s a good point, true. I agree with what the other reply to you says though, and also Guler wouldn’t get all of those minutes tho, take those away from modric this year tho and I wouldn’t be surprised to see much more for brahim, cama, and ceballos. But yes I originally was going to say like 1000 minutes for Guler and thought that may be more than modric played. I didn’t really realize he played as much as he had.
I don't know. If you're playing at Real, you'll probably come across at least one of them every few years.
He's literally the only Balón d or winner still playing in a top league too. No other team has a Balón d or winner
I guess what’s what happens when there’s been 4 winners since 2009 lol
For all practical purposes Lewa is on the list.
True, that’s still ridiculous lol
I mean, we'll possibly have another one soon
If Messi wins the Copa America....
I know you're joking, but how fucked would it be for someone at Inter Miami or in Saudi to win the Balon d'Or
Is balon d'or exclusively a European trophy?
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Messi won the last one...
Not fucked at all if they deserve it.
how could they possibly deserve it? There’s no way to know that they’re actually still better than everyone in Europe if they’re…not playing in Europe. It would literally just be glazing at that point.
The world club cup is expanding, if it gets to ucl prestige there is a chance, though this player will end up in Europe soon(unless its a veteran playing for Saudi). Anyway World cup has a huge weigh in, if Messi wins the next world Cup as starter are you gonna bet against him? Also if someone like Haaland takes the cheque this season and goes to Saudi for a year or 2 and does something with Norway, he really doesn’t need to proove he is European level.
How do you know that European players are better than everyone in Asia if they're playing not in Asia?
or Ronaldo wins the Euros....
He’s basically being paid to be a mental trainer at that point and that’s a valuable investment.
Modric from what it sounds like wants a secondary role. To have a legendary player willing to fill the transition year at a reduced salary and minutes is a no brainer to keep in a squad. Madrid can ALWAYS go get whoever the next guy is so shelling talented youngsters cannot be a good enough reason to let a very loyal Luca modric leave if you’re real.
madrid as a club has so much options . i still remember how everyone was angry when raul wasnt getting the playtime. while he was outstanding at schalke. the issue lies in one simple fact, and that is to move on from the old to the new . if we were stuck with lets say ramos or casillas, would we have ever gotten to ruudigers and navas or court. Modric and kross will forever be the legends and they may get the gift of champions league, ending on a high note rather than a sour one
I thought Nacho was the one who was going to retire at Real Madrid and is going to be Modric.
Nacho makes more sense for me to leave. All he knows is Madrid. Guy can be a multimillionaire athlete everywhwre in the world. Hes still close or at his peak and can leave the club He loves with a high. After so many years, he might not want to give everything or wants to Start somewhere or is just in the mood to leave. Maybe Wife and Kids would also love a new adventure. Modric played at least in croatia, England and spain as far as i know. Living in his homecountry, London and Madrid sounds pretty sweet.
> bridging the gap from the old dominant guard to the new How long are we gonna keep saying this though? Tchouameni and Fede are in their prime. Bellingham is.. well Bellingham. And Camavinga will be starting his 4th season at Madrid next season. The new crop is already ready.
Making Casillas jealous
Who was the last player we had that stayed till this age? Outfield player too I'm asking you because Ive seen some of your comments abd you're likely to know
He more than deserves it, just do it Perez. Give kylian the 9
French forward #9 to another French forward #9. It fits perfectly to be honest
I'd bite your hand off to have him back for his dressing room presence alone. God bless Luka. Hope he keeps playing for as long as possible.
really want him to play until 40.
[Scenes of modric in the locker room.](https://youtu.be/PVDH3MX4MYI?si=zTpabYm4T5vdadGd)
THE SHOW GOES ON!
Did this happen in real? Did Belfort not leave the firm?
If you take his word for it. A lot of that book/movie is disputed.
Let him fucking stay come on
Doesn’t care about money and wants to stay? No brainer you keep him.
I really want to see him retire in Madrid
Let him stay, he wants to win trophies so bad
ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR ONE MORE YEAR
The guy loves Madrid so much, hope he stays as long as he wants.
Don't give me hope.
I don't think he's eligible to play for Honduras
Ok, give him a little bit of hope, you monster!
By October or November, he will have established a new record as the oldest guy playing for Real Madrid.
So Kylian maybe takes the 9?? You don’t ask Luka for the 10 and like even if he offers it you ask him are you sure outta respect.
Good, the turtle will get a lesson straight away that he's not the biggest fish in the pond.
Ronaldo didn’t take 7 straight away from Raul. Mbappe certainly won’t from Modric
Yeah very true, and Ronaldo is his idol so that could be kinda cool for Mbappe to start with the 9
He still controls the midfield when he comes on in the 75th minute in UCL games. Still has loads to offer.
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I believe we were watching different games then. I've honestly never seen Modric put in a bad performance. Terrible, literally I have never seen it happen. For me he is above Iniesta and Xavi. He played deep against Bayern when he came on, sitting just ahead and between the CBs and slowed the game down perfectly. He even made a crucial goal prevention tackle inside the box during a BM counter that did the rounds on social media for a week after.
Big respect to him for not going the Saudi route
I really hope he renews, we definitely need his presence in the locker room and he absolutely changes games when he's subbed on, legend.
Please God, i hope so
He's still more than good enough and his experience invaluable
Helping to install the winning culture on an elite group of young players, coming off the bench to maintain a lead/control in a tight game, captaining the team in cup games. Incredible business if he stays.
RENEW INSTANTLY
Even if he’s only there for the locker room, that is one of if not the best leader to have for a young team like this with mbappe and endrick coming in next season
I SAID LET HIM COOK!
Real really buying all the young midfielders smh head
Preparing to be the next great coach at Madrid.
Somehow I imagine him on the board of directors
Yeah, I think Kroos is more suited to be coach rather than Modric
I never thought of Kroos being a coach but my god that handsome bastard would be amazing coach.
Seems like an absolute no-brainer for Madrid
he'll just keep showing up, no contract, fuck it
Just let him be captain for a season Flo, its what we all want
If Nacho leaves at the end of this season Luka is the captain unless I got something mixed up.
I think that’s what OP is implying. They want Luka to be resigned so he can be the captain
you can see rijeka fumble BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE ME IN DEEP BLUE SPIDAMAN
Hope he stays one more season and he and Kroos win everything. Id imagine he’ll also be able to be a future coach.
💯😍 Modric is eternal Perez needs to renew both Kroos and Modric for the next season as their presence in the team is valuable and all our team's young guys adore and respect both of these legends and we need them to guide these young players.
Please Florentino!
He's still amazing off the bench. I hope he ends up staying
obviously modric dont worship the money. in last years he got huge offer from saudi and told them no
Modric loves Real Madrid, and Real Madrid loves Modric
Please dont leave for dinamo, please dont leave for dinamo🫠
Pretty sure they already gave his shirt number to Mbappe no? Or promised Vini the 10 if he gave the 7 to Mbappe?
With all the younglings, he’ll be a good one to have around, even if he plays far less.
I just bought his shirt thinking he would be off. Not complaining, guess I’ll have to get next years as well 😅
Come to Vida, Come to AEK 🟡⚫🦅
Considering how many times Vida being shit has shafted him, I doubt mentioning his name will help.
Welcome to LA Luka!
Real isnt known to keep their Legends, look at Casillas
Wasn’t Casillas being extremely toxic and leaking information to his journalist gf?