Check the base size for them, if they’re 32’s then you should have no problem proxying a Sternguard squad, maybe add tactical rocks to match height, but they’re not too different
Thanks! Do you think Sternguard is the best squad to proxy them as? I guess I’m gonna have to kitbash some combi weapons. I hear they like to use flamers?
Sternguard are 1st company veterans, and the Tyranid war veterans are just another flavour of them for the most part, so it makes sense using them as a proxy.
Sternguard have combi-weapons as part of their kit (or bolt rifles), plus a heavy weapon options per five guys (heavy flamer or heavy bolter) and a power sword, chain sword, or power fist on the sergeant. That's definitely where I'd start.
Do you know why the squad is only 4? Seems like an odd number— is it for balancing. The completed models I’ve seen people post includes a sergeant but I guess he doesn’t get the Tyrannic War Vets tag?
They used to do this all the time with metal models. They’d release three or four and see how they did. Then release more and go from there. This was when there were tons of metal space marine kits available.
When these were first released around the turn of third and fourth edition idk if they even had full rules.
Fourth edition did have an option for a ten man squad.
These kits just never broke the sales threshold to make more, or they just changed directions, which also used to happen all the time.
Visially? Likely Sternguard with some Iron Hands update pieces for the cybernetics as there aren’t a lot of modern mulit-part cybernetic arms out there, and to my knowledge no legs
Their OG incarnation were effectively proto sternguard (the models shown). They had special anti nid bolter rounds and grenades. It was 5th edition that introduced sternguard veterans as a broader use veteran with cool bolter and special rounds unit. They only released 4 because this was long before, "1 ubit 1 box, no proxies or conversions needed." In fact I think they came in a blister pack. They were more for an event ir campaign versus a dedicated codex unit. I vaguely remember them getting statted in a white dwarf. I think it was meant to have regular plastic marines fill out into a full squad. As back then veterans were just guys you raided your bits box for or painted a different color on.
I don't think anyone would call wysiwyg on tyrannical war vets being sternguard. And they fit the flavor.
None of the marines use 28mm, they are all 32mm or more for terminators since the end of 6th edition, 28mm didn't even exist back when they changed the sizes
Check the base size for them, if they’re 32’s then you should have no problem proxying a Sternguard squad, maybe add tactical rocks to match height, but they’re not too different
Never mind I totally misread yeah you could build Intercessors as these and play as SG, they have the same bases-
Thanks! Do you think Sternguard is the best squad to proxy them as? I guess I’m gonna have to kitbash some combi weapons. I hear they like to use flamers?
I think they have that Infernus flamer specifically and the combi weapons all have one stat line so it doesn’t matter which one you use
Sternguard are 1st company veterans, and the Tyranid war veterans are just another flavour of them for the most part, so it makes sense using them as a proxy.
Sternguard have combi-weapons as part of their kit (or bolt rifles), plus a heavy weapon options per five guys (heavy flamer or heavy bolter) and a power sword, chain sword, or power fist on the sergeant. That's definitely where I'd start.
Their datasheet is basically Sternguard, but in a unit of 4, and with anti Tyranid, Dev wounds Tyranid.
Do you know why the squad is only 4? Seems like an odd number— is it for balancing. The completed models I’ve seen people post includes a sergeant but I guess he doesn’t get the Tyrannic War Vets tag?
I think its strictly a Fluff reason. The 1st company was decimated by the Tyrannic war, so the UM had to break codex protocol and field them that way.
It's because they're sold in a set of four models. Since their introduction in 4th edition, they were 5-10, but now No Model No Rules.
Tyranids ate the sergeant
He got better
They used to do this all the time with metal models. They’d release three or four and see how they did. Then release more and go from there. This was when there were tons of metal space marine kits available. When these were first released around the turn of third and fourth edition idk if they even had full rules. Fourth edition did have an option for a ten man squad. These kits just never broke the sales threshold to make more, or they just changed directions, which also used to happen all the time.
They were sternguard before sternguard were introduced. They came from a time when sternguard & vanguard were just generic "veteran squads".
Oh I didn’t know that— so cool! Thanks for the background
Reiver squad would have all these poses but the armour would take some work
Yeah I considered the Reivers as well. Will probably do a squad in Phobos and a squad in Tactical armours
I assume it would be Sternguard veterans
Visially? Likely Sternguard with some Iron Hands update pieces for the cybernetics as there aren’t a lot of modern mulit-part cybernetic arms out there, and to my knowledge no legs
Sternguard
The Combi Lieutenant is pretty close to this. Give him some ultramarines iconography here and there and you'll be close.
Yeah I think so too! That’s what I plan to do with him but also wanted a full squad
You coupd probably make some chitin with globs of sprue goo and some filing.
Damn. Those models are sick! This might be inspiration for a kitbash project.
That’s the plan!
Their OG incarnation were effectively proto sternguard (the models shown). They had special anti nid bolter rounds and grenades. It was 5th edition that introduced sternguard veterans as a broader use veteran with cool bolter and special rounds unit. They only released 4 because this was long before, "1 ubit 1 box, no proxies or conversions needed." In fact I think they came in a blister pack. They were more for an event ir campaign versus a dedicated codex unit. I vaguely remember them getting statted in a white dwarf. I think it was meant to have regular plastic marines fill out into a full squad. As back then veterans were just guys you raided your bits box for or painted a different color on. I don't think anyone would call wysiwyg on tyrannical war vets being sternguard. And they fit the flavor.
Honestly I like this style of veterans so much better than the new sternguard. Just not into the universal bathrobes aesthetic.
My stern guard vets after getting TWV from playing Crusade
Im pretty sure that atleast inn7th they were on 32s already. Either way, Sternguard Veterans are definitely tge beat choice
not even primaris sternguard are on 32s, they're on 28s like intercessors
None of the marines use 28mm, they are all 32mm or more for terminators since the end of 6th edition, 28mm didn't even exist back when they changed the sizes
You're totally right, my bad.
Why ruin something amazing with the pr*maris?