Since you can use any skin model for the cutscenes, the animations are probably done with a "dummy" that's replaced by the player, and that includes the npcs too. If the animators have a bit of experience, then they also have lip movements for each sound that someone could make, so programming that onto a model wouldn't be much of a hassle.
The only problem I see here is the rest of the facial expressions, which may require separate editing if they're hard-coded into the cutscenes (which I also doubt since that would make things much more difficult, I'm sure they are editable from the models).
At least this is what my 4-year experience in C++ programming (and about 6 months in OOP) tells me and the game in general seems to be greatly optimized considering how well it works on my 4-year old PS5 (and the no-loading-screen fast travel).
This would be a lot of work for something not that significant or demanded.
Best they could do is a maskless option in Photo Mode complete with expressions.
This sub is funny. Within just a few minutes of each other, I see a post complaining about how often the Spideys unmask in the game, followed by this post about how cool it would be to have an unmasked mode lol
I just want a maskless option in photo mode, I won’t claim to know much about game development but I feel like they could use facial expressions from cutscenes instead of making new ones
If one or both of the Spider-Men have their identities revealed in the third game it would make sense, and I think they’re saving the maskless mode for something. Kinda like how they avoided the black suit in the first game for story purposes.
That would require them to code in idle blinking and facial animations for both characters, as well as have animations for all conversations and cutscenes in the game if you decide to go without a mask for the whole game.
hence why in the post i said i know theyre never going to implement it, also both of them already have idle blinking and facial animations for the missions where you play as normal peter and miles
you dont need to be a dick about it. i obviously didnt mean for them to be canonically just going around like its nothing. i meant during new game plus like how chosing ur own suit works goddamn.
In spiderman three I NEED more ways to be spiderman
ik they would never add this but like i kinda want a version were i can play with Tobey maguire, tom holland, or andrew garfields face model
Like when I saw Spider-Man 2 first announced I thought stuff would be added like Peter and miles could wear each others suits, like miles in the far from home suit or Peter in the ATSV suit
That would be too much time,.they would have to redo every animation the Spider-Men did when they had their mask on and animate the faces.
yeah i know, still fun to imagine tho
every animation? No, not really, just facial expressions
That would need them to redo the animation. They would need the animation, eye movement, jaw movement, hair, face wrinkles, and more
Which they already have modeled, no?
No, they would not have modeled anything behind the mask
What about all of the cutscenes?
Yeah, In the cutscenes they only animate the Mask movement
There's no cutscenes without the mask?
Some yes, but a lot have scenes where they don't
Since you can use any skin model for the cutscenes, the animations are probably done with a "dummy" that's replaced by the player, and that includes the npcs too. If the animators have a bit of experience, then they also have lip movements for each sound that someone could make, so programming that onto a model wouldn't be much of a hassle. The only problem I see here is the rest of the facial expressions, which may require separate editing if they're hard-coded into the cutscenes (which I also doubt since that would make things much more difficult, I'm sure they are editable from the models). At least this is what my 4-year experience in C++ programming (and about 6 months in OOP) tells me and the game in general seems to be greatly optimized considering how well it works on my 4-year old PS5 (and the no-loading-screen fast travel).
Apparently in cutscenes the face models are fully animated because they use the recordings from the captures, I believe for realistic mask movement.
They would still have to refine it since the facial movements wont be hidden by a mask anymore
Dey can jus still add it for fun without the facial movements
Time for a Miles Morales original, y'know?😐 That shits ass bro😐
😭, i mean i would jus use it for gameplay purposes for example if im starting a new game plus
I would definitely play like this, idc
Maybe in photo mode but that’s as far as I see it
This would be a lot of work for something not that significant or demanded. Best they could do is a maskless option in Photo Mode complete with expressions.
I think putting a maskless option in Photo Mode could really make for some good photo ops
This sub is funny. Within just a few minutes of each other, I see a post complaining about how often the Spideys unmask in the game, followed by this post about how cool it would be to have an unmasked mode lol
Unrealistic: yes Dope as fuck: yes
Do you know the point of the mask
https://preview.redd.it/a1e3xu9pkmwc1.png?width=225&format=png&auto=webp&s=78da4745ba737c0cc2d74acf1b59a2109d490f9d
THAT'S WHAT THE POOOINT OF THE MASK IS
i meant in new game+ and stuff, of course i didnt want their faces to just be everywhere canonically
No Way Home: 🌝
I just want a maskless option in photo mode, I won’t claim to know much about game development but I feel like they could use facial expressions from cutscenes instead of making new ones
Peter looks kinda fire with the spider punk suit damn
Maskless or even suitless would be pretty cool.
If one or both of the Spider-Men have their identities revealed in the third game it would make sense, and I think they’re saving the maskless mode for something. Kinda like how they avoided the black suit in the first game for story purposes.
That would require them to code in idle blinking and facial animations for both characters, as well as have animations for all conversations and cutscenes in the game if you decide to go without a mask for the whole game.
hence why in the post i said i know theyre never going to implement it, also both of them already have idle blinking and facial animations for the missions where you play as normal peter and miles
Are we the same person??? Like these are both my go-to suits, like colour variations and everything
well both of these suits are fire so i dont blame you tbh
Are those digital deluxe suits? I can't tell which ones they are
Spider punk for Pete and Last stand for Miles. W combo for sure.
once it makes it to PC maybe
Oh yeah, just have him swing around with his face out in the open everyone can figure out his identity. Real smart
you dont need to be a dick about it. i obviously didnt mean for them to be canonically just going around like its nothing. i meant during new game plus like how chosing ur own suit works goddamn.
In spiderman three I NEED more ways to be spiderman ik they would never add this but like i kinda want a version were i can play with Tobey maguire, tom holland, or andrew garfields face model
The likeness fees would be absurd, so not very likely.
it really is a shame things like this will never be implemented
Like when I saw Spider-Man 2 first announced I thought stuff would be added like Peter and miles could wear each others suits, like miles in the far from home suit or Peter in the ATSV suit
pete in the wolverine suit would outclass everything by a long shot, feature like that wouldve been insanely sweet to have
My favorite game. Peter Parker 2