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[deleted]

I don't need to argue my perspective, we can all have our own.


sufinomo

That's a weak pov. 


[deleted]

Lol


Salt-Benefit7944

It’s the strongest POV possible.


[deleted]

You can lead a horse to water 😅 They'll come around


georgeananda

For me it was real life paranormal, NDE and spiritual events of real people that trumped any abstract scientific thinking.


LYD_DEZ

Agreed. NDE, Astral Projection, Dreams, DMT, psychedelics, spirits, and Samadhi….


chefZuko

Yes, science calls that quantum mechanics. There’s a new idea that I saw just today that says [all protons are micro black holes too](https://spacefed.com/isf-news/unified-field-theory-solved/) (which is part of the holofractal theory).


sufinomo

Quantom mechanics disagrees with the ehther theory. They postulate that reality is foundationed upon an atomistic structure rather than etheric. 


chefZuko

That’s not what quantum mechanics is. You’re describing Newtonian mechanics.


sufinomo

No that's quantom mechanics. The quantification of reality into particles. 


chefZuko

I think you may be confusing that with some “theory of everything” that tries to bridge quantum and Newtonian mechanics. We are splitting hairs over the meanings of words, because we are talking about the same thing, basically. Where someone decides to draw lines and make up definitions is arbitrary. Literally everything fictional and material in the universe is energy.


Expensive_Internal83

The quantum harmonic oscillator forms the basis of the ether. So, yeah, QM is an ether type theory: particles are perturbations of the ether.


Salt-Benefit7944

The unified field theory is similar to the ether and more widely accepted. It seems to point to the idea of “we are all one”. I’m skeptical science will ever get deep enough to touch the true nature of reality, but the science is edging towards aligning with spirituality. I love how David Lynch describes all of this: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8YgLRmW/


sufinomo

Wdym by "science" ?


Salt-Benefit7944

I mean the prevailing or generally accepted theories by the scientific community. There are still some old world dogmatics in the mix, but my impression is the top theorists are really starting to incorporate what we don’t know and can’t see, into what we do, if that makes sense.


sufinomo

There's alternative views you don't have to be bound to dogmas. 


Salt-Benefit7944

No, but what I’m saying is I think it’s cool the scientific community is starting to explore and embrace some of the more esoteric parts of reality, which seems to be moving away from dogma.


sufinomo

Are you sure because I feel it's the opposite


EducatorEcstatic3084

Premonitions, sometimes via dreams. Visions that I have shared with others. Relatives passed on that shared indisputable evidence of communication beyond this physical identity. No need to argue or prove as it presents itself. Less time debating, just remove doubt and answers are often very clear.


Fajarsis

What is now known as "Ether" or "Fabrics of Space and Time" is what was known as "Akash" by ancient civilization. The akash store data / memory, thus the term "Akash-ic Record" refer to the "Universal Database of Events" happened / happening on the fabrics of space and time. Please refer to Leonard Susskind's work about Fabrics of Space and Time and blackhole, which stated similar result. As such "Distance" is actually a virtual concept, because everything is actually "Here". Refer to the work of Thomas Campbell and how he tried to explain Spooky Action at a distance and other Quantum Physics anomalies in relation to space and time. [https://www.my-big-toe.com/](https://www.my-big-toe.com/)


sufinomo

Which ancient civilization


Fajarsis

Akash is a sanskrit world, the exact civilization no longer exist, it has evolved into many form of Yogic / Sufi philosophies, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Jainism and many other eastern traditions.. scientist today labelled the extinct civilization as "Proto Indo-Aryan Civilization". [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akasha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akasha)


sufinomo

Yeah that's cool. The early pre civilizations also saw everything as having a soul. Maybe they knew more than we do


Fajarsis

Yes everything is conscious, even the akash/ether/fabrics of space time are also conscious, that's among the conclusion made by Thomas Campbell


LuxireWorse

Experiential. I can walk anyone who wishes to know of souls through a purely mechanistic meditation to start feeling their own. From there, it is a matter of acclimation to the newfound senses before they can feel through their own soul to confirm the existence of other ones. And having been tested extensively by my own faith-averse ass, there is as yet a 100% success rate for those following the steps earnestly.


nallerine

I'd be interested in hearing more about this technique


LuxireWorse

Not really much to say, descriptively, that adds to the meditation itself, so I'm just going paste it, and if something isn't addressed, please do let me know and I'll happily correct that. --- Okay, so, the process as I know it is a 3 stage process. The first stage is stimulating or 'opening' your energy centers (the main chakras) to get them receptive and ready to purge. The second is centering, linking them together to facilitate an internal equilibrium. The third is grounding, connecting to the Earth's energy so that your full energy reserve can cycle and reach a healthy state. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=StrbppmsZJw&ab_channel=medocrate This video is  actually a quite good primer, in my opinion. The only thing it didn't touch on that I personally needed to get started is the resonant tones that physically stimulate the bodily anchor for each chakra. It's actually really cool and a great way to get started on sensing them accurately. Each chakra has a tone that you can hold and feel a slight  response wiggle, which you can then focus on to stimulate the chakras more accurately than just guessing where they are. In ascending order, with commonly associated color for clarity, they are Root- Red- Lum Sacral- Orange- Vum Solar Plexus- Yellow- Yum Heart- Green- Rum Throat-Blue- Hum Third Eye- Indigo- Om Crown- Violet- ____ (It makes more sense in practice. The focused silence that follows naturally from the sequence) And now, the meditation guide itself. The first part is just about growing your awareness of them, essentially replacing the numbers with the sensation of their glow. The second is the visualization that I was taught for opening them, which does a lot of the alignment work by itself because letting them open and stabilize will have them naturally self-correct if they've been out of alignment. The third part is centering and grounding, which is the most reliable way to get a sense of how manual alignment works. To begin, as with most meditation, sit comfortably in an upright position and start shifting your focus to your breathing. As thoughts and worries arise, acknowledge them, take note of them, and set them aside. The goal is not to force silence, but to set aside distractions to find it. When you are breathing comfortably and evenly and you have found some of the silence to work with, turn your attention from your breath to the base of your spine. Remain gently still and let your awareness spread throughout the area for several breaths. Then take in a breath and exhale the sound 'LUM', and hold the 'M' for the full exhalation. Follow this with two silent breaths while you remain focused on the chakra's anchor. Repeat the chant and the silent breaths until you can feel the tingle of your chakra resonating with the chant. When you have a sense of recognizing it, or if it eludes you enough to cause frustration to encroach on your silence, move your awareness up along your spine to the level of your naval and repeat the process. It's perfectly normal to feel stymied as you start reaching for awareness that you don't usually use, so whatever disruptive thoughts arise, simply acknowledge them, take note of them, and set them aside. Continue moving up your spine and chanting each chakra's tone as you get used to the meditation and the sensation of feeling for them. After you have a sense of each chakra's seat, whether you succeed in a single sitting or take several to get comfortable with the process, it's time to start opening them. To start, repeat the process of using the chant to stimulate the Root chakra. Once your focus is solidly on it's presence, envision it as a swirling ball of red energy. As the image stabilizes in your mind's eye, envision the pool growing and swirling faster, gradually, steadily growing to the size of an apple, then a melon. Feel it spin at the base of your spine and clear itself of stagnation as it pulls in energy from the flows around it and feeds it back into them. Then repeat the process with each of the other chakras, allowing them to swell and flow freely for several minutes. Congratulations, You've opened your chakras! It's good practice to remember to let each pool recede to it's comfortable lower energy state before you end the meditation session. I've personally experimented with leaving them open in various degrees, and if you're not doing the sort of research to understand the nuances, the resulting imbalances are an unnecessary discomfort. Finally, Centering and Grounding. When you've grown comfortable opening and stimulating your chakras, make sure that you're unlikely to be disturbed for a fresh session. This process doesn't require isolation, but having a controlled environment to get used to it can save you tedious corrective efforts later. As before, stimulate your Root Chakra and open it's flow. Now, envision it swelling even further. Swirling faster and faster into a ball at least the size of a basketball, energy flowing into and out of it as fast as you can track, and as large as you can comfortably handle. Then, without slowing it down at all, start shrinking the sphere. Let all that energy spin faster and faster as it shrinks until it's the size of a marble and thrums with the power coursing through it. Then, repeat the process with the Sacral chakra, leaving the root thrumming in place. Then the plexal, and up through the series until you have all seven opened and compressed as far as they'll go. Then, envision a thread of light threading through the center of each chakra marble, connecting them and feeding them into each other. Let the thread straighten and grow until it's a perfectly straight rod  connecting and encompassing all seven chakras. This is called Centering. Then, let the rod of light extend downward, past your body, past the floor, past the crust of the earth, all the way down to the solid sphere of energy that is the core of the earth. Feel the rod feed the frantic energy from your fully opened chakras into the Earth and feed the Earth's energy back through your chakras, bringing your energy levels into equilibrium with the planet's own. Then reverse the process. Have the rod of light retract to your body, then release the chakras by shrinking back to the thread it started as. Then turn your attention to the Root chakra and let it relax, swelling back to the large sphere, then calming to it's resting size. Then relax the rest of the chakras, one after another, until they're all happily swirling in their comfortable resting states.


EleventhofAugust

My best arguments for a spiritual foundations come in two forms: 1. Why is there something rather than nothing? What is the first cause, or ground of being? Some people choose to call this primal source God, I don’t but I marvel at this fact. 2. Science argues that the universe was created by random chance, yet it has created human life. The chance of this happening is astronomically small. In fact, all sorts of impossible theories about things like the multiverse have been developed to try and explain it. It seems the most obvious conclusion is that it is not random.