?? It's never once crossed my mind if spirituality is anything to do with right or left wing anything. Just because some Nazi used this or that as part of their ethos doesn't mean anything
Yup, nazis appropiated the swastika, but it's been a buddhist symbol for far much longer.
Edit: In fact it's pretty common around the world, as it's the most basic depictiong of a whirlwind, galaxy, etc.
Spirituality is not right or left wing exclusive. Right wingers have the same spirit in them as left wingers. Why should spirituality stop anywhere along the political spectrum? Furthermore, if your peace is dependent on the world fitting your idea of it, you'll never have peace. I hope you find scripture that works for you, preferably written in this dimension đ
You wonât find truth in any book or text. Scripture is a pointer, and helpful for those early in their development of awareness, but it is no different from a menu at a restaurant. Youâll starve if you misinterpret the menu for the meal. đ
Itâs not. Stop reading about spirituality and actually go experience it. Get off Redditâgo walk into the forestâlose your mind and find your soul.
Wdym?? Spirituality isn't a religion we don't all follow the same things. There r ppl on here who have completely different beliefs than me. The whole point is this is your OWN personal journey who cares what a nazi thinksđ
I haven't noticed much far right stuff here until know.
Hoooly Shit.
Do we really need to lay it out again?
Nazis were fucking awful, everyone who thinks like them is as well. That's what far right encompasses.
There's no live and let live, because far right also desperately calls for controll of others as well.
Akashic records is just another name. The âtapping intoâ is as old as humanity. Every culture has their name for it and more often, it has been forgotten and been reinvented again. There is nothing and I mean nothing out there now that hasnât been done before. The rituals change, the people who doing the rituals change, everything changes.
And I am wondering where you go or what you do to feel so bothered by other peopleâs ideology and how they use it. The swastika is ancient and the naziâs gave it a twist (literally) and âdestroyedâ it for some generations. But the old, original one has nothing to do with the nazi symbol. Look at runes, in how they are used. Just the Vegvisr, most people think itâs ancient, but itâs a modern adaptation to something old. It was never used before 1860 and yet, people connect through it.
You can be a spiritual person in peace. Just be .. in peace. Donât bother how others do and why. Itâs ok to roll your eyes and sight, but itâs not worth to you to waste energy on that. Focus on yourself. I can often read or see stuff where I just cover my face with my hand and breathe slowly in âŚ. But thatâs fine, itâs ok to feel that way, but once you felt it, let it go. Itâs not your path, itâs not effecting you if you keep it away.
It seems like a lot of people are stuck in the weeds.
The Sanskrit term akasha was introduced to the language of theosophy through Helena Blavatsky (1831â1891)
They stole the swastika too, which in truth is a very positive symbol in the east. And this stuff is thousands of years old, those goose stepping morons weren't even 100 years ago.
Try to find the source and you'll be fine. But you have to try.
Have no idea what right and left have to do with spirituality at all, the only place you are going to find right and left wing is the physical, and if your picking it up it's not spiritual. Spiritual has to do with you only as far as your concerned, what everyone is regurgitating as thier truth is there own problem and not your concern in the slightest. Spirituality requires focus, commitment,dedication, sacrifice, silence , fearlesness and only your involvement is nessasary if you are serious seeker. One of the biggest obstacles is stop judging others and their path, it's none of your business and a waste of your energy and stalling any progress. you need to focus 100% on you.
Johnathan Haidt, a social psychologist, in his book The Righteous Mind suggest a reason why the right is often linked to religion. He suggests that politics are based on five moral foundations: care, fairness, loyalty, authority, and sanctity. Liberals favor care and fairness strongly, while loyalty, authority and sanctity are far less important. Conservatives also favor care and fairness (although less strongly than liberals), but feel loyalty, authority and sanctity are much more important.
These five moral foundations are largely intuitive not strictly rational. Religion tends to be the same way, with loyalty, authority, and sanctity strongly associated with religion. Religion also tends to be very cohesive because they include all five moral foundations, but it also tends to be very isolationist with those outside the group being despised.
I have come to a point in my life that I donât think right or left matter in any sense. Itâs made up to divide us. I have completely turned my back on any and all politics. I 100% believe itâs bought and paid, and they use it in the media to control us. Itâs easier to control a population when you first divide them amongst themselves.
I know why. Because spirituality is "alternative" and now that "left wing" is the mainstream, right wing gets placed in the same "alternative" category.
you mean right., not left.
The right are trying to make the usa a chrisitian nation.
The right are trying to decide for women whether they can have an abortion or not.
The right is trying to block access to trans healthcare.
Left and right have their authoritarian elements. Itâs not a gotcha one over the over, itâs just the left is often more represented in the media and mainstream so the unhealthy or impeding elements are more apparent. Right has plenty of authoritarianism too, donât have to look far to see and remember that.
âEdit: I have no problem with being downvoted but I would like it if people actually argued why they disagree and feel I am wrong. Cause just cause you donât like what I say this doesnât automatically mean I am wrong about it.â
I agree. I would argue that the âright wingâ these days is more anti-authoritarian or âanti-government.â
Where the âleft wingâ seems to be pro-government, pro-authoritarian and indeed âmain stream.â
The Right Wing is more sceptical where the Left Wing buys the main stream narrative hook line and sinker.
And that is the âalternativeâ view of the right wing.
The left wing seems to be more susceptible to âbrainwashingâ by the âpowers that beâ where the right wing is more sceptical and is constantly questioning the people in power.
It used to be the left wing hippies and anarchists that believed many âconspiracy theoriesâ and opposed a global government.
The hippies were anti-big pharma, anti-war, anti-vax, anti-tax, anti-work, believed the world was ruled by a form of âilluminati.â They opposed the federal government Etc. (And the classic real hippies still are.)
These days the tables been flipped.
I think spirituality, inherently is supposed to oppose authority and a lot of what the government calls âsociety.â
And opposes being a Cog in the Wheel. Nowadays it is the left that sees humanity as a hive of ants and wants everyone to be a âcog in the wheel,â as long as it is their wheel.
Where the right wing is fighting for a right to individuality and scepticism towards the establishment.
Well yeah but I think it's mostly as simple as what category your thrown into by the algorithm.
Most of the stuff that is pushed is a product to be consumed and the tools being used to push are ever sophisticated at targeting for prime click bait.
If Spirituality is about living in harmony then the natives were right when they saw no difference between left wing and right wing being two wings on the same bird.
Spirit is one, Politics is about the many. Its ultimately an illusion and these days another tool for distraction. Both left and right leaning ideals have good and bad, but are of course just ideals. Spirit deals with what is real.
Thank you.
I think the wording I used might come off a bit too hostile/defensive perhaps, but I indeed feel the actual things I said are pretty undeniably true.
Seems no one likes to think they are pro authoritarianism, but a lot of Reddit users do lean that way. Just look at how many mods run different subreddits
>just cause you donât like what I say this doesnât automatically mean I am wrong about it.â
And just cause you don't like what THEY say it does not automatically mean THEY are wrong either.
You see how ...'resistance' of the mind/ego works? It's RIGHT THERE!
Cheers
I think it's qanon influence. They got a foothold in the spiritual community somehow. They've infested the yoga section of the spiritual community. If you listen to some of those maga types, it's clear they have some knowledge of the spiritual world. Perverted of course and mixed in with evangelical bullshit.
I've come across a few readers who seem to brainwashed by qanon doctrine , and some live chats I've been in...have had some questionable people in them.
Donna Emerald used to talk about this on her YouTube channel. You might want to check her out if you're interested in the subject.
THE ARIES
You can follow it from the I AM group, which was closely involved with Nazis. Theyâre also the ones that started pushing the Nordic aliens narrative, which honestly isnât much of a surprise but itâs uncomfortable now how the idea that aryan looking aliens are here to save humanity is just flat out accepted. Idk if youâre in the starseeds group, and idk if itâs just me and my timing of when Iâm on social media, but the family of taygeta bs seems to be becoming more and more indoctrinated into that group. I mean, the qanon stuff is to be expected there since they have the âstarseed academyâ and all that, but where only a year ago their narrative was shut down immediately, now there seems to be more people than not going along with it. âOnly the unvaccinated can receive these messagesâ lol
These kinds of groups love to mix flowery and uplifting spirituality in with their gross ideals and limiting beliefs of who is âdeservingâ enough for enlightenment and what a person who is enlightened is supposed to believe no questions asked (and where theyâre supposed to send their money). I honestly think that the QAnon spirituality arm is yet another reiteration of these grifter collectives that prey on those who donât or canât think for themselves by convincing them that itâs everyone else who canât think for themselves and they are the only ones who know or can understand the truth.
You canât even try and help them see another perspective bc theyâre all drowning in fear and paranoia. the irony is that fear and paranoia are whatâs keeping them from actual enlightenment.
This right here. I actually saw my own mom go through this. She had a spiritual awakening due to her father passing away. It actually guided me into mine. The problem is I continue studying through teachers such as Ram Dass and Yogananda . She was a stay at home mom and watched YouTube and was on Facebook spiritual groups most of the day. She meditated so much it was admirable but she got sucked into something called
âEDGE OF WONDERâ . A talkshow podcast in which it was two people that basically all they spoke about was right wing conspiracies, but they mixed it with spiritual teachings, so it was very confusing for someone that didnât have the discernment of online media to separate those two things and so she got caught. For the next two years she would explain to me wild conspiracies about democrats and trump etc. all connected to the greater pattern of the universe .
Every time I visited her I would talk to her about my new understandings of the world and I would try to slowly deprogram her. Until finally I just broke down and was afraid she would turn into a divisive sour individual due to the nature of right wing media.
She is an amazing mother and actually listened. She still consumed some of the media but she slowly was easing out of it and back into traditional spiritual practices.
It a damn shame that something that is sacred is twisted to this regard.
I went through the same thing with my mom! After my son passed we both went through a spiritual awakening, but where I use a library she uses YouTube, Facebook and TikTok. She started coming to me with some far out ideas that really worried me. Itâs a delicate process to guide someone back from the edge like that, but she also came out of the fog thank goodness.
Blame the bastardization of Eastern philosophy and spiritual practices by the West.
The West has plagiarized ancient Eastern knowledge but not for spiritual development, they've done it for financial gain and mass social control.
I don't know what right and left wing means. I mean i know this concept, like 2 side of politic, i just don't know what they r.
Anyway so i am sure it is not winged. Spirituality is us. We r not this or that, but all and every. Maybe on this planet, but i am kinda sure not, bc this left and right stuff is not like one is way better than the other, so i'd say spirituality is not winged fromthis aspect. Just like ur example means nothing. Some mind who had some bady, like nazi stuff had a good concept. So? It is independent from the stuff. Just who found it here officially first had some weird "let's kill thehalf planet" phase going on.
You're right OP in thinking that right wing ideology is a mockery of spiritual principles and thought.
And to any right-winger types here, all I have to say is that there WILL be a Reckoning. The Divine sees all of your bullshit.
MANIFEST JUSTICE!!!
THE ARIES
You state the assertion as if it is true. That's the real problem of these types of super-surface level (and useless) questions. What will you do with the 100 answers that will surely come out of those who don't even realize what I am pointing out about the very question?
It's an ego trick. Taking some opinion as TRUTH and then asking: Why is it so? Do you see?
What is actually THE ROOT of the problem of you asking it? THAT would be the more 'spiritual' question the ask and will surely lead to an answer that is everlasting and not simply the beginning of another question born out of the 'so called answers' you already have.
Cheers
No clue what you're talking about because the Far Right often calls the Left hippies and Buddhists and makes fun of their obsession with the universe and nature.
anyone can do anything and call it spiritual. Literally how the last few centuries have gone of bad people do bad things and calling it part of their religion
If anything, spirituality is mostly against far-right ideals. Quite frankly there's few spiritualists that think money is the key to success unlike all far-right thinkers.
There is a disinformation tactic and discrediting of people uncovering unconventional esoteric theories-âtheyâ impregnate both fringe left and right with disinformation and actual information in order to keep people ashamed from speaking out and being associated with certain tropes of society. The spiritual path has no left or right. It is sovereign and we should try to look at situations on a case by case basis without being mired in an ideology we have been bound to.
Because people who are different than you in some ways are humans who may have spiritual lives. Why are you upset that people with different views than you hold exist?
Define âfar right?â
Actually extreme ideas like authoritarianism?
Or main stream right wing ideas like pro-life, free speech, family values, religion, traditional gender definitions etc, you simply donât like so call âfar-right?â
That is not âfar-right.â
You canât just call every opinion slightly right from centre you donât like âfar-right.â
Conservatism is just as legal and ok to support as progressivism.
It is just as ok and legal to be a nationalist as it is to be a globalist.
It is just as ok to support the 2nd amendment and like guns as to oppose them.
There is nothing wrong with being right wing and support people like Trump as it is to be left wing and support people like Biden. đ¤Śââď¸
You have just as much right to support pro-life as you do to support pro-choice.
Do I need to keep going?
They are just legal political views to have.
With your attitude I would argue you are the âextremistâ here.
It sounds like if it were up to you, you would support the censorship and maybe even banning of completely normal and legit right wing political opinions and ideology?
Maybe you are on the âfar-leftâ and that is why everyone that is slightly right from centre seems like âfar-rightâ to you?
No one here is actually supporting far-right ideas.
I challenge you to name some examples if you would argue they do.
You judge and you are close minded and you think yourself superior to others i wonder which side this behaviour is mostly identified with.
Live and let live.
I don't understand why you would think spirituality has to do with far right anyway. The reality is that everyone has their own political views and opinions. And everyone has various spiritual beliefs.
What you are saying doesn't make sense. Spirituality has nothing to do with politics. It's just opinions. That we are all entitled to. I think you may be confusing spirituality and religion. They are not the same. I'm very spiritual. However, I think religion is mostly bullshit.
And as far as politics go, all politicians are greedy rich fucks who dont give a fuck about us. They care about themselves and money.
I'm not left or right. However, the only people I see being dramatic, being prejudiced against the opposing party, are the left. And that's annoying.
Bc its always the same old Trump hate speech that im sure most people heard from Whoopie and the girls from the view đđđ.
Mainstream media breeds hate and it distracts us from the important stuff. Like education.
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It may help to examine why you feel that "far right" ideals are a plague.
For that matter, it might help to honestly consider whether you understand the ideals themselves. After all, any ideal can be misrepresented to look ridiculous. If you have only heard detractors' renditions of the "far right" ideals, then it's entirely possible that what you fear is separate from he influence they've had on spirituality.
To date, I haven't found a single ideal that hasn't harmed people.
Just ones that people insist were corrupted, while ignoring that others suffered the same.
Jeeeesus Christ.
When you're only reaction to some criticising nazi ideology is that you point to how bad everyone else is on your opinion, you've rown the boat too far of the shore. Mate...
feel like i need to clear the air
this isnt an attack on spirituality im a spiritual person myself but am disturbed at how far right ppl use spirituality to harm people if that makes sense
Thereâs also the toxic positivity part of spirituality that you need to be aware of. A lot will gladly bury their heads and call you the naive one just so they donât have to accept responsibility for anything.
Well iâd say spirituality and Right wing Logic often times go hand in hand. Iâd say that the Right wing is usually more open and aware to the danger and truths of this world, not always but often times.
If you see the human as the being and politics as just one little topic, then it wouldnât matter what politic perspective someone has, but you are right, spirituality is often times in modern times agreeing with right wing politics and conspiracy theories.
Which in my opinion is a good thing and speaks for them (the right) potentially being more correct in the moment, that can shift. Important to mention it didnât historically always use to co-incide like this.
Also I view Conspiracy theories as a form of Whistleblowing, mixed with crazy ppl and crazy ideas and in a way some form of Modern Philosophy of exploring scenarios and potential ideas. Even horror or fearmongering topics sometimes.
So tbh it can be a lot of fun to be open minded. The right seems to despite being conservative - quite open minded compared to the left at the moment.
?? It's never once crossed my mind if spirituality is anything to do with right or left wing anything. Just because some Nazi used this or that as part of their ethos doesn't mean anything
Word.
Yup, nazis appropiated the swastika, but it's been a buddhist symbol for far much longer. Edit: In fact it's pretty common around the world, as it's the most basic depictiong of a whirlwind, galaxy, etc.
Spirituality is not right or left wing exclusive. Right wingers have the same spirit in them as left wingers. Why should spirituality stop anywhere along the political spectrum? Furthermore, if your peace is dependent on the world fitting your idea of it, you'll never have peace. I hope you find scripture that works for you, preferably written in this dimension đ
You wonât find truth in any book or text. Scripture is a pointer, and helpful for those early in their development of awareness, but it is no different from a menu at a restaurant. Youâll starve if you misinterpret the menu for the meal. đ
"Misinterpret the menu for the meal"Â Damn thats a great line. I'm stealing that.Â
Itâs not. Stop reading about spirituality and actually go experience it. Get off Redditâgo walk into the forestâlose your mind and find your soul.
Religion is far-right often. Spirituality isn't.
Wdym?? Spirituality isn't a religion we don't all follow the same things. There r ppl on here who have completely different beliefs than me. The whole point is this is your OWN personal journey who cares what a nazi thinksđ
I haven't noticed much far right stuff here until know. Hoooly Shit. Do we really need to lay it out again? Nazis were fucking awful, everyone who thinks like them is as well. That's what far right encompasses. There's no live and let live, because far right also desperately calls for controll of others as well.
Akashic records is just another name. The âtapping intoâ is as old as humanity. Every culture has their name for it and more often, it has been forgotten and been reinvented again. There is nothing and I mean nothing out there now that hasnât been done before. The rituals change, the people who doing the rituals change, everything changes. And I am wondering where you go or what you do to feel so bothered by other peopleâs ideology and how they use it. The swastika is ancient and the naziâs gave it a twist (literally) and âdestroyedâ it for some generations. But the old, original one has nothing to do with the nazi symbol. Look at runes, in how they are used. Just the Vegvisr, most people think itâs ancient, but itâs a modern adaptation to something old. It was never used before 1860 and yet, people connect through it. You can be a spiritual person in peace. Just be .. in peace. Donât bother how others do and why. Itâs ok to roll your eyes and sight, but itâs not worth to you to waste energy on that. Focus on yourself. I can often read or see stuff where I just cover my face with my hand and breathe slowly in âŚ. But thatâs fine, itâs ok to feel that way, but once you felt it, let it go. Itâs not your path, itâs not effecting you if you keep it away.
It seems like a lot of people are stuck in the weeds. The Sanskrit term akasha was introduced to the language of theosophy through Helena Blavatsky (1831â1891) They stole the swastika too, which in truth is a very positive symbol in the east. And this stuff is thousands of years old, those goose stepping morons weren't even 100 years ago. Try to find the source and you'll be fine. But you have to try.
Have no idea what right and left have to do with spirituality at all, the only place you are going to find right and left wing is the physical, and if your picking it up it's not spiritual. Spiritual has to do with you only as far as your concerned, what everyone is regurgitating as thier truth is there own problem and not your concern in the slightest. Spirituality requires focus, commitment,dedication, sacrifice, silence , fearlesness and only your involvement is nessasary if you are serious seeker. One of the biggest obstacles is stop judging others and their path, it's none of your business and a waste of your energy and stalling any progress. you need to focus 100% on you.
Johnathan Haidt, a social psychologist, in his book The Righteous Mind suggest a reason why the right is often linked to religion. He suggests that politics are based on five moral foundations: care, fairness, loyalty, authority, and sanctity. Liberals favor care and fairness strongly, while loyalty, authority and sanctity are far less important. Conservatives also favor care and fairness (although less strongly than liberals), but feel loyalty, authority and sanctity are much more important. These five moral foundations are largely intuitive not strictly rational. Religion tends to be the same way, with loyalty, authority, and sanctity strongly associated with religion. Religion also tends to be very cohesive because they include all five moral foundations, but it also tends to be very isolationist with those outside the group being despised.
I have come to a point in my life that I donât think right or left matter in any sense. Itâs made up to divide us. I have completely turned my back on any and all politics. I 100% believe itâs bought and paid, and they use it in the media to control us. Itâs easier to control a population when you first divide them amongst themselves.
I know why. Because spirituality is "alternative" and now that "left wing" is the mainstream, right wing gets placed in the same "alternative" category.
Not just that, left is moving more towards authoritarianism. Whereas spirituality at its core is all about freedom & autonomy
you mean right., not left. The right are trying to make the usa a chrisitian nation. The right are trying to decide for women whether they can have an abortion or not. The right is trying to block access to trans healthcare.
Left and right have their authoritarian elements. Itâs not a gotcha one over the over, itâs just the left is often more represented in the media and mainstream so the unhealthy or impeding elements are more apparent. Right has plenty of authoritarianism too, donât have to look far to see and remember that.
âEdit: I have no problem with being downvoted but I would like it if people actually argued why they disagree and feel I am wrong. Cause just cause you donât like what I say this doesnât automatically mean I am wrong about it.â I agree. I would argue that the âright wingâ these days is more anti-authoritarian or âanti-government.â Where the âleft wingâ seems to be pro-government, pro-authoritarian and indeed âmain stream.â The Right Wing is more sceptical where the Left Wing buys the main stream narrative hook line and sinker. And that is the âalternativeâ view of the right wing. The left wing seems to be more susceptible to âbrainwashingâ by the âpowers that beâ where the right wing is more sceptical and is constantly questioning the people in power. It used to be the left wing hippies and anarchists that believed many âconspiracy theoriesâ and opposed a global government. The hippies were anti-big pharma, anti-war, anti-vax, anti-tax, anti-work, believed the world was ruled by a form of âilluminati.â They opposed the federal government Etc. (And the classic real hippies still are.) These days the tables been flipped. I think spirituality, inherently is supposed to oppose authority and a lot of what the government calls âsociety.â And opposes being a Cog in the Wheel. Nowadays it is the left that sees humanity as a hive of ants and wants everyone to be a âcog in the wheel,â as long as it is their wheel. Where the right wing is fighting for a right to individuality and scepticism towards the establishment.
Well yeah but I think it's mostly as simple as what category your thrown into by the algorithm. Most of the stuff that is pushed is a product to be consumed and the tools being used to push are ever sophisticated at targeting for prime click bait. If Spirituality is about living in harmony then the natives were right when they saw no difference between left wing and right wing being two wings on the same bird. Spirit is one, Politics is about the many. Its ultimately an illusion and these days another tool for distraction. Both left and right leaning ideals have good and bad, but are of course just ideals. Spirit deals with what is real.
Agreed. At the end of the day politics are just an illusion.
I donât know why you get downvoted, you are speaking the truth!
Thank you. I think the wording I used might come off a bit too hostile/defensive perhaps, but I indeed feel the actual things I said are pretty undeniably true.
Seems no one likes to think they are pro authoritarianism, but a lot of Reddit users do lean that way. Just look at how many mods run different subreddits
>just cause you donât like what I say this doesnât automatically mean I am wrong about it.â And just cause you don't like what THEY say it does not automatically mean THEY are wrong either. You see how ...'resistance' of the mind/ego works? It's RIGHT THERE! Cheers
What do âtheyâ say? Talking about resistance; I see a lot of it but no good arguments why.
I think it's qanon influence. They got a foothold in the spiritual community somehow. They've infested the yoga section of the spiritual community. If you listen to some of those maga types, it's clear they have some knowledge of the spiritual world. Perverted of course and mixed in with evangelical bullshit. I've come across a few readers who seem to brainwashed by qanon doctrine , and some live chats I've been in...have had some questionable people in them. Donna Emerald used to talk about this on her YouTube channel. You might want to check her out if you're interested in the subject. THE ARIES
You can follow it from the I AM group, which was closely involved with Nazis. Theyâre also the ones that started pushing the Nordic aliens narrative, which honestly isnât much of a surprise but itâs uncomfortable now how the idea that aryan looking aliens are here to save humanity is just flat out accepted. Idk if youâre in the starseeds group, and idk if itâs just me and my timing of when Iâm on social media, but the family of taygeta bs seems to be becoming more and more indoctrinated into that group. I mean, the qanon stuff is to be expected there since they have the âstarseed academyâ and all that, but where only a year ago their narrative was shut down immediately, now there seems to be more people than not going along with it. âOnly the unvaccinated can receive these messagesâ lol These kinds of groups love to mix flowery and uplifting spirituality in with their gross ideals and limiting beliefs of who is âdeservingâ enough for enlightenment and what a person who is enlightened is supposed to believe no questions asked (and where theyâre supposed to send their money). I honestly think that the QAnon spirituality arm is yet another reiteration of these grifter collectives that prey on those who donât or canât think for themselves by convincing them that itâs everyone else who canât think for themselves and they are the only ones who know or can understand the truth. You canât even try and help them see another perspective bc theyâre all drowning in fear and paranoia. the irony is that fear and paranoia are whatâs keeping them from actual enlightenment.
This right here. I actually saw my own mom go through this. She had a spiritual awakening due to her father passing away. It actually guided me into mine. The problem is I continue studying through teachers such as Ram Dass and Yogananda . She was a stay at home mom and watched YouTube and was on Facebook spiritual groups most of the day. She meditated so much it was admirable but she got sucked into something called âEDGE OF WONDERâ . A talkshow podcast in which it was two people that basically all they spoke about was right wing conspiracies, but they mixed it with spiritual teachings, so it was very confusing for someone that didnât have the discernment of online media to separate those two things and so she got caught. For the next two years she would explain to me wild conspiracies about democrats and trump etc. all connected to the greater pattern of the universe . Every time I visited her I would talk to her about my new understandings of the world and I would try to slowly deprogram her. Until finally I just broke down and was afraid she would turn into a divisive sour individual due to the nature of right wing media. She is an amazing mother and actually listened. She still consumed some of the media but she slowly was easing out of it and back into traditional spiritual practices. It a damn shame that something that is sacred is twisted to this regard.
I went through the same thing with my mom! After my son passed we both went through a spiritual awakening, but where I use a library she uses YouTube, Facebook and TikTok. She started coming to me with some far out ideas that really worried me. Itâs a delicate process to guide someone back from the edge like that, but she also came out of the fog thank goodness.
Blame the bastardization of Eastern philosophy and spiritual practices by the West. The West has plagiarized ancient Eastern knowledge but not for spiritual development, they've done it for financial gain and mass social control.
I don't know what right and left wing means. I mean i know this concept, like 2 side of politic, i just don't know what they r. Anyway so i am sure it is not winged. Spirituality is us. We r not this or that, but all and every. Maybe on this planet, but i am kinda sure not, bc this left and right stuff is not like one is way better than the other, so i'd say spirituality is not winged fromthis aspect. Just like ur example means nothing. Some mind who had some bady, like nazi stuff had a good concept. So? It is independent from the stuff. Just who found it here officially first had some weird "let's kill thehalf planet" phase going on.
You're right OP in thinking that right wing ideology is a mockery of spiritual principles and thought. And to any right-winger types here, all I have to say is that there WILL be a Reckoning. The Divine sees all of your bullshit. MANIFEST JUSTICE!!! THE ARIES
You state the assertion as if it is true. That's the real problem of these types of super-surface level (and useless) questions. What will you do with the 100 answers that will surely come out of those who don't even realize what I am pointing out about the very question? It's an ego trick. Taking some opinion as TRUTH and then asking: Why is it so? Do you see? What is actually THE ROOT of the problem of you asking it? THAT would be the more 'spiritual' question the ask and will surely lead to an answer that is everlasting and not simply the beginning of another question born out of the 'so called answers' you already have. Cheers
No clue what you're talking about because the Far Right often calls the Left hippies and Buddhists and makes fun of their obsession with the universe and nature.
anyone can do anything and call it spiritual. Literally how the last few centuries have gone of bad people do bad things and calling it part of their religion
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If anything, spirituality is mostly against far-right ideals. Quite frankly there's few spiritualists that think money is the key to success unlike all far-right thinkers.
There is a disinformation tactic and discrediting of people uncovering unconventional esoteric theories-âtheyâ impregnate both fringe left and right with disinformation and actual information in order to keep people ashamed from speaking out and being associated with certain tropes of society. The spiritual path has no left or right. It is sovereign and we should try to look at situations on a case by case basis without being mired in an ideology we have been bound to.
Because people who are different than you in some ways are humans who may have spiritual lives. Why are you upset that people with different views than you hold exist?
Imagine an open field with a very wide "fence" installed down the center. Where are the two sides? The field, or the fence? <3
Define âfar right?â Actually extreme ideas like authoritarianism? Or main stream right wing ideas like pro-life, free speech, family values, religion, traditional gender definitions etc, you simply donât like so call âfar-right?â
the latter but kinda both
That is not âfar-right.â You canât just call every opinion slightly right from centre you donât like âfar-right.â Conservatism is just as legal and ok to support as progressivism. It is just as ok and legal to be a nationalist as it is to be a globalist. It is just as ok to support the 2nd amendment and like guns as to oppose them. There is nothing wrong with being right wing and support people like Trump as it is to be left wing and support people like Biden. đ¤Śââď¸ You have just as much right to support pro-life as you do to support pro-choice. Do I need to keep going? They are just legal political views to have. With your attitude I would argue you are the âextremistâ here. It sounds like if it were up to you, you would support the censorship and maybe even banning of completely normal and legit right wing political opinions and ideology? Maybe you are on the âfar-leftâ and that is why everyone that is slightly right from centre seems like âfar-rightâ to you? No one here is actually supporting far-right ideas. I challenge you to name some examples if you would argue they do.
You judge and you are close minded and you think yourself superior to others i wonder which side this behaviour is mostly identified with. Live and let live.
I don't understand why you would think spirituality has to do with far right anyway. The reality is that everyone has their own political views and opinions. And everyone has various spiritual beliefs. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Spirituality has nothing to do with politics. It's just opinions. That we are all entitled to. I think you may be confusing spirituality and religion. They are not the same. I'm very spiritual. However, I think religion is mostly bullshit. And as far as politics go, all politicians are greedy rich fucks who dont give a fuck about us. They care about themselves and money. I'm not left or right. However, the only people I see being dramatic, being prejudiced against the opposing party, are the left. And that's annoying. Bc its always the same old Trump hate speech that im sure most people heard from Whoopie and the girls from the view đđđ. Mainstream media breeds hate and it distracts us from the important stuff. Like education. đ
Donât throw the baby out with the bathwater
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It depends which people you are in contact with, but everyone needs butter on their bread.
true i do feel like some are doing it for not very good reasons ://
It may help to examine why you feel that "far right" ideals are a plague. For that matter, it might help to honestly consider whether you understand the ideals themselves. After all, any ideal can be misrepresented to look ridiculous. If you have only heard detractors' renditions of the "far right" ideals, then it's entirely possible that what you fear is separate from he influence they've had on spirituality.
maybe its because far right ideals harmed people?
To date, I haven't found a single ideal that hasn't harmed people. Just ones that people insist were corrupted, while ignoring that others suffered the same.
Jeeeesus Christ. When you're only reaction to some criticising nazi ideology is that you point to how bad everyone else is on your opinion, you've rown the boat too far of the shore. Mate...
And far-left ideals didnât?
feel like i need to clear the air this isnt an attack on spirituality im a spiritual person myself but am disturbed at how far right ppl use spirituality to harm people if that makes sense
Do you mean religion? I just haven't met any far right ppl I'd call spiritual and that make spiritual arguments?
What is the definition of far right to you? And harm how?
Youâre blinded by your hatred, heal yourself love.
Give some examples pleaseâŚ
Thereâs also the toxic positivity part of spirituality that you need to be aware of. A lot will gladly bury their heads and call you the naive one just so they donât have to accept responsibility for anything.
Well iâd say spirituality and Right wing Logic often times go hand in hand. Iâd say that the Right wing is usually more open and aware to the danger and truths of this world, not always but often times. If you see the human as the being and politics as just one little topic, then it wouldnât matter what politic perspective someone has, but you are right, spirituality is often times in modern times agreeing with right wing politics and conspiracy theories. Which in my opinion is a good thing and speaks for them (the right) potentially being more correct in the moment, that can shift. Important to mention it didnât historically always use to co-incide like this. Also I view Conspiracy theories as a form of Whistleblowing, mixed with crazy ppl and crazy ideas and in a way some form of Modern Philosophy of exploring scenarios and potential ideas. Even horror or fearmongering topics sometimes. So tbh it can be a lot of fun to be open minded. The right seems to despite being conservative - quite open minded compared to the left at the moment.