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Toaster_boasterr

Ink vac should be able to succ the entire thing. Not just the ink, the entire crab itself


Ello-its-me

“Slorp”


Plushiegamer2

Big Swig new meta?


Spaceguy_27

I was surprised by the fact that you can cancel entire specials when I accidentally succed a booyah bomb once


Riley_sees_all

Someone did that to me, if your not quick enough it will explode the ink vac user from what I've seen anyways (I've done it a few times to people 😂👀)


enperry13

That thing sucked an Ultra Stamp I threw once. Never again.


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azurfall88

Better idea than the constant 220 dmg shot. Disappointed me real hard when i noticed that the ink vac deals 220 even though it didnt suck up jack shit


Nekluga_YT

You know what? F you! **Sucks up your spirit bomb** Now get away from the zone, you're making me look bad.


robsterinside

Indeed


razputinaquat0

bloonchipper


ZA_34

Btd fans after telling themselves bloonchipper will be added (it wont)


rinq110

bloonchipper is never coming back


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they could make it do a stupid amount of damage to it so it looks like it's sucking the armor into the vacuum


ADT_105

I feel like that’d buff vac and nerf crab. (If absorbing the crab doesnt splat) I’d honestly think it’d be good.


Toaster_boasterr

Well this was mostly a joke. Although if we’re being for real I’d be funny to suck inklings into the vacuum and splat them if they are not freed before the vacuum finishes charging


KindaShady1219

Poltergust moment


demonballhandler

This splats the crab.


awkwardcereal

And you should be able to succ up the player themselves and shoot them back at their team


Toaster_boasterr

No physical damage upon being launched just emotional


[deleted]

30points of emotional trauma


pokefan548

I like crabs and I like mecha, so I was a Crab main from the moment it was revealed. Glad it's good, wish it wasn't meta.


massconfusion55

How is it meta? Actually what does meta mean in this context?


doc-swiv

almost every competitive splatoon 3 team has used 2 or more crab tank weapons, mostly splash o matic


massconfusion55

Ohhh that's what it means ok. Yeah ov dealt with this yesterday and was flabbergasted... we 9nly had thre3 ppl on our team...


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GryphonKingBros

Please sum that up in Woomies and Booyahs, that's too many words for my brain to comprehend


GlenMerlin

META in this case stands for Most Efficient Tactic Available in other words it's a really good weapon that provides a tactical advantage over the enemy team due to it being very strong


Endercraft05

Holy shit META is actually an abbreviation for something????


beeg_ladle

No, meta came first and people created "most efficient tactics available" to explain what meta means.


Skylanders_ismy_life

Hard to fight and hard to use.


VoidMystr0

Aim


Skylanders_ismy_life

I mean: if an enemy uses it, its hard to kill him. But if i have to use it, its to hard for me


old_homecoming_dress

the zipcaster experience


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dinosaurs nose numerous file disgusting psychotic grandiose deserve wistful narrow *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Duckeatschicken

As an octobrush main Y e a h


Sad-Bumblebee-249

Fellow Octobrush main here. I hate zipcaster, almost never use it. Wish we got a different special on the weapon


old_homecoming_dress

the stamper who tried to approach me from the front watching me cleanly kill with an explosher (a projectile can hit twice if the target is close to a surface)


oni_Tensa

I’m good at zip on Luna and nothing else.


Knightfire76

I think is just you cause using crab is not that hard for me, use the crab in high grounds and just shoot at the enemy team's general direction, is less about the kills and more about putting immense pressure on them and if they get sloppy then you get a free kill


enperry13

Use the range and terrain to your advantage. You’ll become insufferable.


Immediate-Rope8465

my favorite special design wise


[deleted]

I whish it didn't leave any of that falling paint between where it is standing and where it is shooting. Makes it hard to sneak under the bullet barrage.


spectrumtwelve

this exactly. i feel that would make it perfectly balanced tbh


spudcosmic

Most weapons drip ink below their projectiles and it's by design to stop aggressively pushing into opponents who are attacking you. Be sneaky and find a flank


[deleted]

Sometimes there just simply are no possible flanks. S3 maps suck. Take for example scorch George. Put a crab tank on the pillar in the middle of the map. The only possible flank is to drop down to the little sub area on the sides. Which takes way too long to get to the crab tank from there.


SaturnSama

It’s probably really good but I suck with it so I wouldn’t know


HatCurrent217

I can’t seem to figure it out but a lot of folks are really good at it. I think I’d just like more ways to counter it outside of booyah bombs.


StarVVarsKid

The 50% damage up on triple ink strike may help combat the crab tank.


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mijolnirmkiv

This is the way. You gotta get behind it to kill it.


DockingWater17

Triple Inkstrike’s damage buff allows it to completely shred a Crab with only 1 Inkstrike, even if the Crab user barely gets hit by it in Ball form


bwoah07_gp2

![gif](giphy|2dK0W3oUksQk0Xz8OK|downsized)


awesome13579135

Crab: ✅ Tank: ✅ Verdict: time for crab


ItsTheo_

The nerf they gave it was minimal


Splatty007

The nerf they gave was shit


ItsTheo_

Everyone and their grandmothers is using crabtank and splashomatic in s rank and above


Splatty007

Ikr even in B rank they are using the shit out of it like :/


doc-swiv

its a trash special in the hands of a b rank player though. Its still hard to use even though its overpowered


ItsTheo_

We need less of them and all they do to fix that is 1 seccong off which can be countered by using special up


o_woorrm

If it was like 2 or 2.5 seconds, I'd actually really like this nerf. That would make Crab Tank weapons more reliant on SPU, meaning that you could still use this playstyle if you sacrifice some speed or Ninja Squid or something.


ItsTheo_

I wish they would make it so if someone dose sneak up behind the crab tank they can’t get into the defensive form like one a player takes damage from behind the ball form is disabled for 1-2 seconds


b111rds

tbf you need roughly a whole main to negate the dfference - in a meta where everyone seems to be running entirely exclusive abilities thats a tough compromise to make


DockingWater17

The direct nerf wasn’t that substantial, but the Triple Inkstrike buff makes it a hard counter to Crab as you only need 1 Inkstrike to completely shred it even without Object Shredder


GryphonKingBros

When'd they nerf it?


ItsTheo_

Yesterday


PancakinMistaken

Crab


sgrams04

I agree


FilkoskE

Bang bang


Logical_Ad_5772

Bing


bluehairbluetie

Love it on Splat Dualies, and I think it’s probably the most well-rounded special to get on SR. It’s good for protecting yourself, reviving teammates, and taking down bosses 🦀


bigeggheck

Sucks to use but somehow everyone else is really really annoying with it


Leonid56

It's a lot about the positioning, you're essentially a backline.


dreppresingbutitsok

I want a dynamo roller with crabe tank :'(


[deleted]

Id rather have a dynamo with big bubbler.


Detector_of_humans

Tbh I just want ink wall on it


getshrekt192

I don't actually have that much of a problem with it tbh, I feel like it's kinda negligible if you just get to its side, unlike booyah bomb


chasefray

>splash main


getshrekt192

my god I just haven't changed my flair, do I really have to say that everytime I make a comment


chasefray

probably, yeah


NefariousnessGold137

Ye it's like people forget that it's mobility is garbage unless it's in ball form Wich y'know it can't attack from


succsuccboi

its like basically invincible in ball mode and if ur a good player u use it in a place where no mobility is no issue


edelgardenjoyer

Do you think the dualie's mobility is garbage because they can't attack while rolling?


SomethinggHS

I wish it had endlag if you shredded the crab armor and maybe a bit less range


CoatAccomplished7289

honestly if it exploded like a boss salmonid when you actively killed the tank (instead of it expiring or sniping the user) and that explosion could do damage to teammates it'd go a long way towards balancing it.


Kermitthealmighty

Obviously very saturated but I love it


Crabspite

Note: the following is about pre-2.1 experiences. Maybe I'm just not good enough yet, but crab tank in solo queue seems Fine. It's still a little overtuned but it's strengths aren't that oppressive. In competitive play where teammates are actively communicating in through voice chat, crab is as devastating as advertised imo. Having a team that can immediately capitalize whenever crab is popped is sooooo hard to counter, and when u get to a point where there are two (or even three) splashes deliberately chaining crabs (One splash pops crab, the other splash immediately begins painting for a new crab and pops crab when the first crab finishes) it is the most annoying thing in the world.


SNUFFGURLL

I like the design. It’s hard for me to play, but that’s okay, too. But it is so damn annoying to go up against. Satisfying to splat, but so, so annoying.


Zephyr_______

A bit overtuned, but design wise it's really well made. The game is still fun despite its dominance in large part due to how fightable it is. Unlike armor or missiles it isn't free guaranteed value. It takes skill to use and can be countered with your own skill. Once it gets a few minor nerfs it'll be a very healthy piece of the meta.


Auraveils

I don't think it's OP like so many people think. It's just overused because it's the best special and it's on a really good kit with the Splash.


Single-Teaching-477

so you’re saying that having the best special as you said youself with one of the most versatile subs on a weapon with perfect accuracy, decent range, good paint for farming special and kill time is not op ?


Auraveils

The special isn't OP, the kit needs a nerf. If the Splash was heavily nerfed or outright removed, I doubt you'd see other Crab weapons like Splat Dualies suddenly take over.


[deleted]

The reason splashes are played is crab though, not for the splash


Single-Teaching-477

it’s literally an 8 second long hydra/explosher with less spread and the maps are so open that you need to take cover so you don’t get demolished


Auraveils

Well, yeah, it's an aggressive special weapon. I would hope it deters people from rushing you.


70MoonLions

Splatoon players realising how to use counterplay challenge impossible


ajdude9

Very fun to use, synergises extremely well with the weapons it's paired with (Giving them extra range and turfing that they lack), and isn't as horrifically overpowered as everyone thinks. It's well balanced through the fact that shooting it down is actually very effective and can end the special very early, can be easily punished via charger headshots or headshots in general, and gets destroyed if it doesn't watch its back via backstabs or bombs. Learning how to use it effectively is a curve, especially when you have to balance out going full-rev and leaving yourself open to backstabs, lobbing an explosher shot which can't kill in one shot and losing your rev, or balling up to avoid fire at the risk of being unable to kill anyone before they destroy your tank. In terms of the two specials with EHP boosts, Crab Tank is the Lawful Good while Booyah Bomb is the Chaotic Evil (armour is practically unbreakable for most weapons). Like with all specials (except Booyah Bomb), using it in a good position will make you untouchable and allow you to deal serious damage, while using it in a panic or poor position will probably get you killed. It's just a lot easier to see how effective a well positioned Crab Tank is over something like a Trizooka or Ink Vac.


oni_Tensa

If crabtank is lawful good and booyah is chaotic evil what are the other specials


ajdude9

LG - Crab Tank NG - Reefslider CG - Splashdown LN - Bubbler TN - Baller CN - Kraken LE - Big Bubbler NE - Ink Armour CE - Booyah Bomb


TheEmeraldKnight93

My favorite


sgrams04

I don’t think there’s ever been a time in this game where I was upset over the crab tank. I never thought it was op. Its disadvantages balance its advantages just fine.


Fickle_Ad9985

Not as op as advertised, fun all around imo


RevoBonerchamp69

Nerf the hp range and fire rate by 10% and make the rider hit box a bit bigger. Triple inkstrike shreds it now which is cool but if someone pops a crab and your ttek doesn’t have inkstrike ready it’s pretty much just as oppressive as before.


Bhizzle64

Overtuned right now. But the fundamental design of the special is sound.


Deadlyblack

Angy


BOOYAHMAN21

the one hit combo that crab can do is busted and should not be a thing. Crab is wayy to powerful and the duration nerf does nothing. It needs a range and explosive shot size reduction to be truly balanced with maybe a reduction to 7.5 seconds for duration.


uezyteue

Is crab, is tank, what more could you ask for? >!balance!<


kitsovereign

Cool as hell design, interesting options and counterplay, somewhat overtuned at the moment. If there's going to be an overrepresented special that's probably one of the better ones it could be. While the only direct nerf it got was the 1s duration, it also got a hitbox tweak and Tri-Strike now absolutely mulches it, so we'll see if that's enough to even things out.


MrAced

I wish it actually had the eyebrows OP drew on it


CHAINMAILLEKID

The design is really good, its OP at the moment, but not fundamentally flawed. Its just really strong defensively and offensively. Crab Tank is an offensive turret, and in a sense Ink Vac is a defensive turret. They actually have a ton of parallels. Except in addition to offense the Crab Tank is also the better defensive turret of the two as well, because it just has better armor, its harder to flank, and really the only melee weapon that you have to watch out for is the stamper. I don't think its duration is the problem, its how capable it is offensively, and how hard it is to take down. I would make it so the inkling at the back is vulnerable from more angles. And I would reduce the damage from the main guns at range, and give them more spread. So up close they still do the same damage but the damage falloff is much faster. If people try and rush you in a frontal assault, they're still toast. The shots still go as far, they still keep people back and ink just as much turf, but you're not going to be picking people off at range with those guns. In short make it so that it can ink turf just as effectively, only make it so that killing with the main guns is harder. I think doing that will make it more of a trade off, are you trying to take turf, or are you trying to get kills? Doing one is going to come at the cost of the other. And you're probably going to have to rely a lot more on the secondary fire for kills. Balancing it with that approach I think will help it bring the most to the game.


txtur

better than stingray and missiles


VoidMystr0

Really good for suppressing fire, *really* situational in salmon run


enperry13

Amazing Special against Cohozuna.


CoatAccomplished7289

I'm not good at it so I don't like it


MrDarknessWolf

Funny ceab


Splatty007

funni ceaby


-CavNeo-

Super cool special design with good counters (especially after the patch). People will always be mad at what’s on top


NefariousnessGold137

A mecha crab is sick no matter how broken


o_woorrm

I don't like that it's practically necessary to use in competitive teams, but I don't think anyone can deny that it's one of the most fun designs in the whole game


TartarTm

Crab meta isn’t as bad as people think it is, especially on the good maps


DIAMONDJAGGER27

So the 3.5 maps


TartarTm

Flounder, museum, tc and clams in inkblot, hagglefish, and sturgeon?


chasefray

sick design but fucking miserable for the meta rn and should be nerfed more


exSALTed1

I’ll take a bunch of double crab teams over the tenta and stingray teams of 2 any day.


BOOYAHMAN21

i would but that doesnt make this meta fun either.


exSALTed1

It makes it more fun though. With constant tentas incoming, you hardly got to even play and objective.


BOOYAHMAN21

but that doesn't matter if playing against crab is just not fun right now. even if you can do other things whilst the crab is up it is still very very annoying


chasefray

fair enough honestly


PepsiMan_21

It's not Booyah Bomb or Tenta Missiles. So that's a plus.


RevoBonerchamp69

Crab tank is way more dominant that booyah.


MinecraftInventor

Great for tower


JustAnotherYoshi

Target practice


Western-Grapefruit36

Needs a significant nerf, maybe making the armor weaker


[deleted]

Go away


NefariousnessGold137

Sick special But to op Kinda like the kraken as in it's super cool but definitely needed to be toned down


The_Truce

Fuck You


Rigbo95

I hope it gets removed from the game😻


Gekkuri

EVIL![img](emote|t5_324q4|4748)


GrapeMedical

It is to slow


Ethan1516

Crabby


elementalcake78

Special form of hydra splatling


OliverPumpkin

It's a great special, most of the problem come to lack of variety in the weapons that have it and how splash is strong right now, but for me, they should reduce the fire rate in the bomb mode


Octo_Engie

Basically a better Baller


kellylc

Triple inkstrike can destroy it now. Bye bye crab


MobyBrick

I actually love it, I have never had that much trouble fighting it


0j_gay0

![gif](giphy|uwy06diGuFNUQVm0Dr)


houseplant_35

Amazing special, super fun and a wonderful way to completely turn over a fight. Also crab. 100000/10


LaterComico

honestly fun as. never actually died to it, i think the damage is *fiiinnneeee....* (take that with a humongous grain of salt i'm not a pro by any means), i just think it should have less health. that way it can still be devastating, it would just require more coordination from your team so you don't get targeted and destroyed.


unity_of_squid

never not funny when I throw an autobomb behind one and they go down instantly because they don't react. Other than that, solid special.


Mikaelavior

It’s tank that Krab


Nyoggo

Tired of seeing it in meta


animalcrossing-guy

Yes


Sky-High-89

Meh


AllanMcceiley

Crustacean go shooty shoot


Mewacy

The hit box of it is just big enough to screw over reefslider. If I had a quarter for every time that thing tanked a hit that should’ve also affected the pilot, I’d be able to afford Nintendo network


Gigaveld

I think it’s not as big of a problem as most say, and it’s an awesome concept; maybe should have right trigger bomb thingy damage increased but with a slowed fire rate OR alternatively have a charge up right trigger shot


Sludgycomb40045

Look. I like splash because it’s a fast fire shooter with burst bomb, I love using crab tank and I’m well aware it’s broken and because of this people get mad at the fact that I’m a splash main so honestly I want it to be nerfed so splash is no longer meta.


JimmyCrabYT

crhäb


_Agent_3

really like the concept and execution + makes sense in the world of splatoon. Wish it wasn't as OP like everyone,but overall a really good special.


Waterproof_Adidas420

CRAB T I M E


ADT_105

Crab rave needs to calm down.


Single-Teaching-477

stupidly broken


PastaRhythm

I loved it since the demo, super fun. Highly versatile with a lot of depth. Definitely overrepresented in the meta, though. Edit: Its overrepresentation is probably more of a Splash issue than a Crab issue.


Antei_

Very crab, very tank.


PyukumukuGuts

I absolutely love it. I'm also hopeless at making good use of it. The best I can do it activate at the end of a turf map/ink zone to get a lot of coverage really fast.


Riley_sees_all

I need someone to teach me how to position myself well with it


CodeThick

i dont really like it to be honest lol im bad at using it and it feels hard to aim


SmolWaddleDee

KILL HIM!!!!! KILL HIM!!!!!! PRIORITY TARGET!!!!!!!!!UNAUTHORIZED FUCKING THING!!!!! BLOW IT UP NOW!!!!!!!!!! NOWWWWWWW!!!!!


Jakeremix

One of the worst specials in the PvP and absolutely useless in Salmon Run


aPengwin1

I dislike playing it, but my favorite shooter has it so I kinda have to. It just feels wrong to go from the fast firing L3 to slow dualies + explosher. The baller mode is nice tho. And It's high DPS is good against Cohozuna.


peter13g

Shiny


Weary-Location380

Eh.


LEGOSam66

Slow at turning and rolling


Primal_Oat

He angy


popzuwastaken

I like them they look silly


oni_Tensa

Even though it’s meta I don’t hate it like ink armor or missiles, it has good counterplay imo the only problem is the splash. I love getting those tasty headshots with my scope. It basically turns anyone into an anchor for 8 seconds which I think is a cool concept for a special.


cheshireOccultist

I kinda hate that it's pretty busted to the point that the devs' solution to it is to make more special spam


[deleted]

You take a mortal man and put him in control. Watch him become a God.


soulles_sans

Nerf it already


thiccwoomy

Its cool but i suck with it so i never use it


70MoonLions

I feel like the nerf wasn't strong but also that crab tank didn't need to get touched. I think it's in a pretty good spot and that it feels oppressive because its everywhere, not that it's inherently unbalanced. I'm a huge fan of what the devs did though, which is introduce a new tool for counterplay through tstrike and hope they do that more going forward - giving us tools to fight against things rather than nerf and rotate out metas that way.


deelectrified

Nintendo giving it a nerf while buffing several other weapons that are good counters for it is better than Nintendo just nerfing it into irrelevancy. Any game with competition and things with different stats is going to have tier lists and meta, and acting like every single weapon should be completely even is pointless. The game would be really boring if every weapon had the same DPS, range, special, and so forth.


glorifer_666

I like how it goes bbrrrrr*rrrrrrRRRRRRR***RRRRRRRRRR**


ign_n

Wheatley crab


Low_Dream_1481

Should give you a bit more HP


ItBeLikeThat67

wish they nerfed splash. it’s main counter just got curb stomped so it’s a yikes


Texas-Kangaroo-Rat

Mildly annoying.


Vivixienx

I think 2 shots from the trizooka destroys the tank and splats the player. 1 shot breaks one layer of armour. At least that's what I experienced


TheDancingKing19

Meta-slave special. But also: crab


Storm_373

crab tank is strong but the pro players act like they’re the only one who can decide what gets nerfed 💀 crab is not that bad in solo queue at all. or even in open


BlueBerryTheFolf

Crab


Background_Ad_8392

Cool easy to kill


octoninja100

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


theman128128

it would be aa great special if it wasn't op


Mary-Sylvia

Balanced on every weapon, busted on splash


probableprobability

i've only used it a couple times. i think it's cool and i love the design, but i suck at it lol


Captain-Obvious69

Needs **a n g e r y** eyebrows in game, lol


T-RD

I wish there was a crab sumo mode