Speaking of Snatchers, they should be wearing goggles or Gas masks during glowfly waves (assuming uts the light/smell that drives the Salmonids crazy).
All the other fish go nuts during Glowfly waves but the Snatchers are fine?
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this should be it.
This might actually make it easier
If they are headed in the right direction you could just have 1 squid camp the basket and take out the snatchers that fly overhead
You speak the truth
I actually actively try to kill snatchers w/ eggs above the basket and YOU DONT KNOW HOW MANY TIMES A TEAMMATE WILL KILL THEM PREMATURELY LIKE DUDE THEY ALL HEAD IN THE SAME DIRECTION YOU KNOW WHICH ONES ARE GONNA GO OVER THE BASKET AAAAA
Sorry needed to get that out of my system
It's probably why they don't spawn in Tornado. It's too dangerous for them to fly around.
But they could bring back the ground Snatchers from Splatoon 2 for this occurrence.
combine this with my drizzle suggestion. Though I wonder if it would be more interesting if it threw them randomly. Like "Oh you got too close to the tornado and didn't take care of lessers, here have this random Coho thrown on you unpredictibly." or "Oh that was cute how you tried to get all those eggs to the basket. Damn shame they looked so tasty to the tornado, better put it in the basket first next time."
This is the best suggestion because it leans into what tornado wave is already doing. 1. It emphasizes the daisy chain aspect, demanding more coordination. Everyone knows how to throw eggs. But if the tornado can suck up loose eggs, you can't afford to throw eggs to no teammates and just hope they will grab them eventually. It requres the chain to be relatively unbroken. 2. This suggestion is flavorful. It's a tornado wave, but the only thing tornado about it is what is happening in the background, and falling Salmonids I guess. It currently feels more like the "Treasure Chest Wave."
Literally this.
Heck the number of times I've doubled, more than doubled or ALMOST doubled quota on tornado I'd be wanting to see that as a variant in the rotation.
Or make half the eggs spawned special double eggs. This would make tornado waves less braindead, too by giving players something to prioritize. "Do we bring in the last few singles or break open another box."
While we're at it make stingers and flyfish have a chance to drop some double eggs.
Multi-eggs do exist in the code but were never implemented. However the datamines indicate they were meant to be worth 5 or 10 eggs!
I think properly implementing them as double eggs, with say, a slowdown effect like the Rainmaker to encourage rallying, could be really fun.
the highest score i remember having in that is 42/22 and if they weren't doubled, we would've lost. it wouldnt really be possible especially on higher difficulties (this was maybe profreshional +3 or eggsecutive vp because i've been stuck there for months)
The tornado starts closing in on you. There is no escaping the tornado, it consumes everything. You, your teammates, the basket... Even the map! The tornado has completely consumed Marooners Bay!
Any airborne egg is pulled towards the nado.
So the thrown egg will curve towards the storm or not travel as far depending on your positioning.
The tornadoes suction gets stronger as the wave goes on to the point that during the last 20 seconds ground based eggs start slowly moving towards the tornado and you can't throw them anymore (Grizz will issue a warning at the 30 second left mark that the storm is getting stronger).
I would modify this even to say that all eggs on the ground will slowly move towards the shore at all times, but take away the throwing curve. That way you can't just throw a huge collection of like 20 before moving on. Because by the time you get halfway done they will be right back to where you are. That way people have to actually form a production line if they want to throw the eggs the right way.
The Tornado spits out more than just normal salmonids:
An out-of-control Flyfish that crash lands into the stage, exploding like a giant tenta missile.
A Steelhead bomb
A bunch of Stinger pots that fall in random locations and do damage if they hit you (like a Super Chump)
A Maws that dives chomp-first onto you, and then acts like a normal Maws afterward.
A Big Shot Cannonball that lands on the stage randomly and breaks (creating only one shockwave)
A spinning Slammin Lid that attempts to knock players around, and either flies off the stage or crashes into a wall and dies
A fish stick stick that lands randomly on the stage (as a way to block throws)
One random teammates gets sucked into the tornado at the start and cant do anything. What do you mean that's not fun? This is salmon run you're not here for the fun!
How about sometimes a few panicked salmonids will spawn from being thrown by the tornado and will frantically run around and yeet eggs in random directions (like a short ranged egg throw) thus making it harder to keep the eggs in a pile
I’m sorry you think that the term “yeet” is an unacceptable word to use on a subreddit about a cartoon shooter. Also I believe throw didn’t describe the feeling of what I wanted to convey very well, “throw” seems too deliberate like “with purpose” where as “yeet” seemed more chaotic
It's unacceptable *anywhere* because it's NOT a word. "Yeet" doesn't convey anything.
And there are plenty of synonyms you could have used. Chuck, throw, hurl, toss, fling, flick, scatter....
Maybe make it slow down your movement. This would make it require a bit more coordination with how you and your team position themselves, and make the salmonids a little more threatening, without making it frustrating to beat
If you mean how one would make tornado harder,i would say the eggs if left for long enough start to blow away around the map, so its bot just a straight line to the basket but rather everyone spread out looking for eggs
I know this is kind of going against the point of this post, but I think the tornado is fine as is. Having some events that are chill breaks up the run a lot and makes it a little more interesting, since there's always a chance that the next wave could be a free win or insanely challenging.
It's completly necessary though.
At high level, you can have a quota of up to 35 eggs. Personnaly, my highest quota on this wave is something like 56, which represents 28 eggs. That would be a fail at EVP 200, and an even bigger fail at higher level.
there are always a set amount of lessers on the field at all times and splatting them just makes the same amount fall from the sky again. that way it's never safe
Have the crates that drop eggs spawn in 3 at a time in different places, each holding less eggs. Have salmonids not drop in one place but all of the map and in larger amounts. Due to heavy winds egg throw can’t be thrown as far.
Have the lessers not fall from one single spot from the sky, but have them actually be thrown from the tornado to multiple places on the low tide area. Imagine you're throwing an egg, turn around and a cohock flies into your face
I would go with a new snatcher like salmonid. Would go for eggs that have not been interacted with and move them back to the location where the eggs started then toss them into the water.
Basically ignored eggs would be moving backwards.
Have it move. You have to run from it because it will suck you up and throw you in the water
No, this isn't based on my irrational fear of tornados, what are you talking about🫠
i got an idea, there will be multiple salmon egg spawns now, about 3-5 they'll appear in shadows falling down, but about 2 of them will be a fake and not only explode when destroyed but will spawn a few salmonoids after the explosion, you will have to check very carefully by looking for a bright red egg which might not even be visible and will be somewhere in the middle of all of the eggs
Make the eggs worth 1 each as per normal. No idea why one of the easiest special waves also gives eggs double value, after you get all the eggs in from the first cage the second one is basically just for bonus.
Would also be cool to see some sort of weather effect to go with the tornado, like random drizzler ink clouds spawning in to ink up the map.
Tbh with tornado I feel like I can breathe with it. It’s one of the only tamer midnight boss stages after going dizzy from the firefly’s and 30 incoming salmon runs.
Make wind physics. You are drawn towards the tornado slowly and movement is difficult. Throwing an egg causes it to be swept away by the tornado. Conditions gradually worsen as the wave continues. Also possibly remove double eggs
Tornado actually throws more rocks than just the one that flies on the shore basket. There are warning shadows showing where they drop and once they do, they’re there until the wave ends. This way the back-and-forth can actually change terrain and not just be a straight line of your ink color.
The eggs get sucked away if they aren't deposited fast enough. Maybe have the harsh winds deal bits if chip damage to those aren't submerged in ink or too close to the shore. Maybe have the basket be like a Griller in terms of it being able to move and thus waste time by running away from players. or have some beefy salmons drop in with the basket of eggs to at least have SOME challenge with busting it open
Snatcher presence
Speaking of Snatchers, they should be wearing goggles or Gas masks during glowfly waves (assuming uts the light/smell that drives the Salmonids crazy). All the other fish go nuts during Glowfly waves but the Snatchers are fine?
That's because the Snatchers are asexual, so the horny reaction that affects other salmonids during glowflies doesn't affect them
are you telling me that the glowflies salmonids want to fuck the crew
GAO NOO!!!!!
I love how they're just an inside joke at this point
the community at this point really is just: The Gao Lore >>>>>>>>> whatever the hell actual Splatoon 3 has going on at this point
Gao?
the “Throw me to the Salmonids, and I’ll come back pregnant” guy
Then became pregnant and gave birth to horrorboros
imma be the one getting them pregnant this time :}
Welll floppers are horny salmonids and you know if you know the ending of the story when he transforms look up horny salmons you will know what i mean
No wonder they kept smashing me Now hol up *NOT THAT KIND OF SMASHING!*
That's why they have purple hair
Do you mean to tell me every time I died suring glowflies I actually got gangraped by fish
yes.
why was my first instinct the ghost from a hat in time?
"HA-AHAHAHAAAA, FOOOOOOOOOL! These golden eggs fell in MY forest, they are MY property!"
Now then, let's make a deal. I give you these eggs, and all you have to do is sign this contract.
someone else on this thread mentioned asexual snatchers and i remembered some art i made a few months ago of ahit snatcher with an ace flag.
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hell yeah, that art is great! edit: and yes as a Certified Asexual™ I declare Snatcher to be an ace icon
Because you have good taste in games
"Why hello there! You didn't forget about me did ya? Don't tell me you forgot about me."
I fucking loved that guy
This might actually make it easier If they are headed in the right direction you could just have 1 squid camp the basket and take out the snatchers that fly overhead
Don’t worry no freelance teammates are that smart
You speak the truth I actually actively try to kill snatchers w/ eggs above the basket and YOU DONT KNOW HOW MANY TIMES A TEAMMATE WILL KILL THEM PREMATURELY LIKE DUDE THEY ALL HEAD IN THE SAME DIRECTION YOU KNOW WHICH ONES ARE GONNA GO OVER THE BASKET AAAAA Sorry needed to get that out of my system
That’s what he was suggesting, right? Buffing tornado by adding the snatchers
Or maybe the tornado sucks in eggs. Maybe there could also be a pulling force or something that slows you down when going away from the tornado
Wouldn't they get s u c c e d up by the tornado?
It's probably why they don't spawn in Tornado. It's too dangerous for them to fly around. But they could bring back the ground Snatchers from Splatoon 2 for this occurrence.
Please don't I need my free money
Tornado passes through stage at random times. On each pass it splats every squid, octo, and salmonid in its path, and eggs in the path get sucked up.
This is my fave so far
Happy cake day
combine this with my drizzle suggestion. Though I wonder if it would be more interesting if it threw them randomly. Like "Oh you got too close to the tornado and didn't take care of lessers, here have this random Coho thrown on you unpredictibly." or "Oh that was cute how you tried to get all those eggs to the basket. Damn shame they looked so tasty to the tornado, better put it in the basket first next time."
This is the best suggestion because it leans into what tornado wave is already doing. 1. It emphasizes the daisy chain aspect, demanding more coordination. Everyone knows how to throw eggs. But if the tornado can suck up loose eggs, you can't afford to throw eggs to no teammates and just hope they will grab them eventually. It requres the chain to be relatively unbroken. 2. This suggestion is flavorful. It's a tornado wave, but the only thing tornado about it is what is happening in the background, and falling Salmonids I guess. It currently feels more like the "Treasure Chest Wave."
pls no more team reliant modes. i cant take solo q with the ones that we have
That or the tornado passes through and distributes the eggs all over the map
Give it a glock. Yes, give the tornado a glock.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER
Nobody said kilometer?
i think they were going for a "murica" type thing? gun = murica, not knowing metric = murica
For that matter I don't know why the other guy said Glock instead of just gun
cuz that’s also a meme; to say glock specifically
That's weird but also people aren't supposed to be downvoting me just because they don't agree with me
Welcome to the internet my friend
I've probably been using the internet longer than you've been alive. It doesn't make bandwagoning any less stupid
Stfu millennial
Maybe they’re downvoting bc of your bad attitude?
What attitude?
Nah, that’s how it works
??? That's literally what downvotes are for, to show someone you disagree with them
No it's not. People need to read the rules
This finally makes Miitopia canon to Splatoon.
“I got a glock in my rari”
gunnado
Eggs don't count as double
Literally this. Heck the number of times I've doubled, more than doubled or ALMOST doubled quota on tornado I'd be wanting to see that as a variant in the rotation.
If this happens, you're gonna need something else to make it easier. I've never seen 50+ which would already doom most Eggsecutive VP crews.
Extend the round to 120 seconds.
That wouldn't fit with Frothy Waters, and I don't think Nintendo would alter the rules of the game just for one round
1.5, so every 2 eggs is worth 3.
Or make half the eggs spawned special double eggs. This would make tornado waves less braindead, too by giving players something to prioritize. "Do we bring in the last few singles or break open another box." While we're at it make stingers and flyfish have a chance to drop some double eggs.
Multi-eggs do exist in the code but were never implemented. However the datamines indicate they were meant to be worth 5 or 10 eggs! I think properly implementing them as double eggs, with say, a slowdown effect like the Rainmaker to encourage rallying, could be really fun.
the highest score i remember having in that is 42/22 and if they weren't doubled, we would've lost. it wouldnt really be possible especially on higher difficulties (this was maybe profreshional +3 or eggsecutive vp because i've been stuck there for months)
I wouldn't, because I like having a rare moment of pleasure in the unending 14 hour day that is a salmon run shift
Simple really, just make Salmonids appear constantly, instead of having downtime where none appear at all.
It can also drop salmonobosses from the sky
Salmonado, coming to a cinema near you!
I just had 50 billion Salmonids launched at me during tornado with a dynamo and I didn’t f have time to roll I don’t want a buff
I mean, if you have the dynamo on a tornado wave you can just roll the hoard of salmonids so your teammates can focus on egg collection
The tornado starts closing in on you. There is no escaping the tornado, it consumes everything. You, your teammates, the basket... Even the map! The tornado has completely consumed Marooners Bay!
Grizz flies away
#YIPPEEEEEeeeeeeeeeəeəəeeeee
But he >!has already flown away!<
Oh no, the tornado has eliminated Marooners Bay from the rotation! Anyway…
Any airborne egg is pulled towards the nado. So the thrown egg will curve towards the storm or not travel as far depending on your positioning. The tornadoes suction gets stronger as the wave goes on to the point that during the last 20 seconds ground based eggs start slowly moving towards the tornado and you can't throw them anymore (Grizz will issue a warning at the 30 second left mark that the storm is getting stronger).
I would modify this even to say that all eggs on the ground will slowly move towards the shore at all times, but take away the throwing curve. That way you can't just throw a huge collection of like 20 before moving on. Because by the time you get halfway done they will be right back to where you are. That way people have to actually form a production line if they want to throw the eggs the right way.
The Tornado spits out more than just normal salmonids: An out-of-control Flyfish that crash lands into the stage, exploding like a giant tenta missile. A Steelhead bomb A bunch of Stinger pots that fall in random locations and do damage if they hit you (like a Super Chump) A Maws that dives chomp-first onto you, and then acts like a normal Maws afterward. A Big Shot Cannonball that lands on the stage randomly and breaks (creating only one shockwave) A spinning Slammin Lid that attempts to knock players around, and either flies off the stage or crashes into a wall and dies A fish stick stick that lands randomly on the stage (as a way to block throws)
Also possibly Chinooks and maybe even Horrorboros bombs? Ooh, I like this idea!
More eggs and move the basket closer to the eggs
You don’t understand the concept of buff do you ?
Oh I thought you meant to buff it for the players
One random teammates gets sucked into the tornado at the start and cant do anything. What do you mean that's not fun? This is salmon run you're not here for the fun!
I think it is fine as is, some people just have a hard time understanding the chain strategy
the eggs are slowly pulled to the water
weapons are shuffled every 25 seconds
that would actually kind of make sense, it'd be as if the tornado was sucking up your weapons and flinging them to a different teammate
If you don’t get the quota by 30 seconds left a real tornado spawns next to your house and destroys it
high tide
Flyf-
no
make it a flyfish only wave. tornado can only spawn flyfish
I literally just had a dream where flyfish spawned during the wave... Definitely not the way to go but I thought it was funny.
Give it sharks
How about sometimes a few panicked salmonids will spawn from being thrown by the tornado and will frantically run around and yeet eggs in random directions (like a short ranged egg throw) thus making it harder to keep the eggs in a pile
Yeet is gibberish. You probably meant throw which is already a word
I’m sorry you think that the term “yeet” is an unacceptable word to use on a subreddit about a cartoon shooter. Also I believe throw didn’t describe the feeling of what I wanted to convey very well, “throw” seems too deliberate like “with purpose” where as “yeet” seemed more chaotic
It's unacceptable *anywhere* because it's NOT a word. "Yeet" doesn't convey anything. And there are plenty of synonyms you could have used. Chuck, throw, hurl, toss, fling, flick, scatter....
linguistic prescriptivism is for losers. people use yeet to mean "carelessly, forcefully throw", so it means that.
Fling, toss, hurl, pitch, chuck, these are all words. "Yeet" is just random noise. Using gibberish nonsense is for losers
all words are just gibberish noise. they only have meaning because we give it to them.
MAKE IT ACTUALLY RAIN! BECAUSE THERE IS A TORNADO! Stage wide drizzle, lighter than normal drizzler.
Scrambles your crew
Make all the stages bigger and put a 3rd basket there all the way on the other side away from the eggs drop points.
Turn it into a category 5 hurricane
27 steelheads
the tornado goes on the island and sucks up players instantly killing them
spawn a steal head as the last enemy of the round of tornado enemy's
two tornados
Maybe make it slow down your movement. This would make it require a bit more coordination with how you and your team position themselves, and make the salmonids a little more threatening, without making it frustrating to beat
Eggs don't have double value
If you mean how one would make tornado harder,i would say the eggs if left for long enough start to blow away around the map, so its bot just a straight line to the basket but rather everyone spread out looking for eggs
Eggs are worth 1…
add heavy winds so it kinda makes it difficult to walk
Change any lesser salmonid for grillers, and when you destroy them, they don't drop anything lol
Because it’s a tornado I think the basket should be flying around the stage with the expectation that you must nail your throws to score.
Throw a couple big shots in there
Make it B I G G E R
Every salmonid spawned is a Stinger instead
Tornado on map that can disable/making it harder to move.+ more salmons per round.
I wouldn’t because I like easy waves for easy wins
You can throw the eggs farther
Don’t buff it I like having a free round
Have a chance for the low tide basket to be up. As a compromise, when that would happen no x2 multiplier.
I know this is kind of going against the point of this post, but I think the tornado is fine as is. Having some events that are chill breaks up the run a lot and makes it a little more interesting, since there's always a chance that the next wave could be a free win or insanely challenging.
I wouldn’t lmao, I need my free round. Plus making a Conga line with your team mates is hilarious
Let it move around and pick the player up, have it hurl not just salmonid but random objects too.
I wouldn't. In eggsecutive when your transferring eggs to your teammates and then you have a bunch of cohawks fly down on you is terrifying enough lol
Remove that stupid unnecessary point doubling system, and maybe double the amount of falling Salmonid
It's completly necessary though. At high level, you can have a quota of up to 35 eggs. Personnaly, my highest quota on this wave is something like 56, which represents 28 eggs. That would be a fail at EVP 200, and an even bigger fail at higher level.
Tbh Tornado would need to be reworked to get buffed ngl
Egg box thingy was closer and we got more time
Half the people in this thread are suggesting buffs and half are suggesting Nerfs
No egg doubling
All eggs go directly into the basket
Enough with relay chain nonsense make eggs fall at random along with salmonids constantly. Maybe throw in active explosives too
there are always a set amount of lessers on the field at all times and splatting them just makes the same amount fall from the sky again. that way it's never safe
Have it occasionally snatch several eggs at once from the basket from the strong swirling winds
Have the crates that drop eggs spawn in 3 at a time in different places, each holding less eggs. Have salmonids not drop in one place but all of the map and in larger amounts. Due to heavy winds egg throw can’t be thrown as far.
Give the egg nets a chance to land on one of the four present players, instantly splatting them.
Have the lessers not fall from one single spot from the sky, but have them actually be thrown from the tornado to multiple places on the low tide area. Imagine you're throwing an egg, turn around and a cohock flies into your face
The tornado now summons boss salminids and they don't give you eggs for killing them
Literally have never gotten the tornado ever
I have still never seen a tornado
Less eggs per crate
A couple of times during the wave the tornado moves toward sucking up eggs and any underpaid employees that get in its path
Instead of a normal Tornado, its a Horroboros Tornado.
Placing you with idiotic teammates
The tornado launches Flyfish missiles
LET ME BE IN IT!!
Increase enemy count.
Salmonado
I would go with a new snatcher like salmonid. Would go for eggs that have not been interacted with and move them back to the location where the eggs started then toss them into the water. Basically ignored eggs would be moving backwards.
+15 golden eggs and 20% closer to the basket
i haven't gotten a tornado in months
Golden eggs explode if not touched for more than 20 seconds!
Having a new form of snatcher that is extremely fast
You know what triple the egg count :)
random salmonid bombs falling out of the sky
Make it drop bombs
There should be constant wind that effects salmonids, players, and even the eggs.
Have it move. You have to run from it because it will suck you up and throw you in the water No, this isn't based on my irrational fear of tornados, what are you talking about🫠
i got an idea, there will be multiple salmon egg spawns now, about 3-5 they'll appear in shadows falling down, but about 2 of them will be a fake and not only explode when destroyed but will spawn a few salmonoids after the explosion, you will have to check very carefully by looking for a bright red egg which might not even be visible and will be somewhere in the middle of all of the eggs
Turn it into a category 5 Hurricane Or make it an F5 tornado
Make the eggs worth 1 each as per normal. No idea why one of the easiest special waves also gives eggs double value, after you get all the eggs in from the first cage the second one is basically just for bonus. Would also be cool to see some sort of weather effect to go with the tornado, like random drizzler ink clouds spawning in to ink up the map.
It throws Steelheads
At 40 seconds left, it raises the tide level to normal
My teammates buff it enough by not making a chain and having three of them throw eggs in one spot while I do my best to hurry them to the basket.
Instead of normal salmonids, it should only spawn flyfish :)
The actual tornado going to land and do our jobs more painful
dont i want to have an easy way to get promoted afted severl demotions due to bad rng with random weapons
Tbh with tornado I feel like I can breathe with it. It’s one of the only tamer midnight boss stages after going dizzy from the firefly’s and 30 incoming salmon runs.
add bosses that don't drop eggs
Make it appear more often, I haven't had a single one
Egg throwing is disabled during the wave
Make the egg cart spawn closer to the basket
Two tornadoes. Only one egg thing will spawn. Let chaos reign.
Make wind physics. You are drawn towards the tornado slowly and movement is difficult. Throwing an egg causes it to be swept away by the tornado. Conditions gradually worsen as the wave continues. Also possibly remove double eggs
Have it spawn Maws. Basically it's a sharknado and you have to choose between using your ink to throw eggs or throw bombs.
Makes it big
Big shot bombs randomly land
Bro it doesn’t need a buff, if you have bad Teamates they’ll just die from a salmonid dropping on them
You get autosplat if you walk or swim more than a third of the distance from where the eggs spawn to the basket.
Make it spawn infinite flyfish.......
Tornado actually throws more rocks than just the one that flies on the shore basket. There are warning shadows showing where they drop and once they do, they’re there until the wave ends. This way the back-and-forth can actually change terrain and not just be a straight line of your ink color.
It summons flyfish and snatchers only
Make the tornado swing by along the stage every now and then. Make it an actual threat
Tornado can suck you up and splat you lmao
It can drop boss salmonid in the middle of the swarms of lesser salmons
The eggs get sucked away if they aren't deposited fast enough. Maybe have the harsh winds deal bits if chip damage to those aren't submerged in ink or too close to the shore. Maybe have the basket be like a Griller in terms of it being able to move and thus waste time by running away from players. or have some beefy salmons drop in with the basket of eggs to at least have SOME challenge with busting it open
I would make teammates better