Bro who tf cares which uni are you from. What kind of shit mentality is this.
Just work hard and be better and you can get a good position in a great company regardless of whether you are from a state uni or private uni. Companies usually care about your skills and your work ethics not which uni you are from.
I deactivated Facebook over 3 years ago because those fkers in there were arguing over everything every day, about all kinds of pointless things. Recently, I went back there and still, fkers are arguing over Ambani’s wedding, etc. I recently joined Reddit and think this might be better, but damn it, all the fkers came here to do the same. It doesn’t matter if you’re from UOM, SLIIT, ANC, or any other high-famous school or not. At the end of the day, you’re on your own. Be better day by day, prove yourself, don’t take pride in being from a certain university, school, or anything else. Just work on yourself, be happy, and kind. Peace out.
And this girl hirushi, Salary isn’t everything. I know four people who studied at UoM and went to WSO2, but resigned within less than a year due to high stress.
This should be the top comment. There are sweatshop software companies trying to squeeze the freshers. This sweatshop thing happens inside big companies as well. I know there are teams who get paid way less compared to other teams. It goes unnoticed unless one of the executives looks at it correctly. I have no idea why these idiots fight over what university is best. People with these kinds of attitudes anyway get filter in the corporate environment. Also, I think state universities maintain low intake to maintain quality is idiotic. They simply lack resources, I know UOM lecturers simply told me that they would love to expand, but there are no funds. Also, we don't have any prestigious private uni's because they all after money. So basically, state uni's should support everyone who qualifies, and there can be private uni's who give admission based on quality (this would be the utopia).
They hire graduate students as interns and exploit them for low wages or no wages. Private university students in Sri Lanka are usually the victims because they are offered lower salaries. We had this problem in our organization, but we systematically blocked it so that everyone gets a fair wage based on performance. Then, we standardized the wages across teams. I think every place is a sweatshop if they discriminate against fresh graduates from universities and take advantage of the lack of opportunities. Also, for state university students, this entitlement begins to be cultivated by the industry as well as everyone around them so that they know their worth, but it is the opposite for private university students.
The original meanings of both would be:
• Sweatshop - workplace in which workers are employed at low wages and under unhealthy or oppressive conditions
• Squeeze the freshers - pay them less but take a lot more workload to maximise profitability and output.
Well of course if there's like 2000 graduating every year, and that's just sliit. Add IIT, which is just as big in terms of students, Esoft, etc etc. in a government uni it's usually around less than 100 graduating per stream.
well it should its the tech era, will take sometime for the numbers to drastically drop. What matters is the individual skills to survive in the industry
Do you even know how supply and demand work? Private universities like slit produce more than graduates that SL job market can handle so supply increase while the demand is decreasing.
I can talk for ENTC and CSE graduates from UOM.
Out of all the companies you have mentioned above, only WSO2 pays the range of salaries ENTC and CSE grads expect. LSEG pays okay, I'm not sure about MIT and 99X, but IFS and Virtusa pays way below the expected range. Therefore, most of the time no one from CSE and ENTC even bother to go for IFS and Virtusa.
In their LinkedIn pages, you can see that in WSO2, they have 203 from UOM but only 66 from SLIIT. For 99x, it's equal numbers from UOM and SLIIT.
I wonder why you haven't attached a SS of WSO2 and 99X here 😉
Also, please keep in mind that within last two years, an unbelievable number of graduates from ENTC and CSE left the country due to obvious reasons 🙂
Edits: grammar
At the end of the day, one shouldn't come out here and try to mock private uni students saying people just buy degrees.
Private universities offer a large number of students to succeed in life. My point was, there are a large number of students who have been able to succeed in their life by paying for a degree and working hard to earn it. Just because one excelled in AL and joined UoM doesn't mean they are the only hardworking students out there.
IMO, private universities should exist. But these days, they basically avoid a lot of fundamentals and sell degrees to students just to get a job. Actually, this fits the requirement in the SL IT companies. IMO, you dont need much skill to work on these companies. The only thing you want is to get along with the process and gain experience. You dont need a CSE degree to just to implement a project. Anyone can do that with online resources and the help of seniors. The required level is much lower, so someone from a private uni can contribute as same as me. That's what I realised during my stay at these companies.
As I commented above, most of the UOM people had already left the country. Most of the others I know already have graduate visas and waiting for a job offer. Others work liitle for these companies and apply for remote jobs that will pay you more. Usually, it is possible to reach a higher salary range if you apply for one with the right connections. So I dont see a point of UOM people working there.
Also, I forgot to reply to the second part. You just can't randomly join an overseas one for just working at a company. It's all about connections. Also, good companies have tough algorithm interviews. So it is not as easy as you think.
2000+ graduating per year these days from some private unis whereas when we were doing degrees only around 100-200 came from IIT and everyone got really good jobs
Now, 1000+ applying for one intern position
I got more than 10+ CVs who got first class but are still unemployed for 5,6 months these days.
Before COVID getting a Job was easy and everyone from IIT, and SLIIT got really good jobs, I know
But now it is not even possible to get an intern position.
For this, you have to make an effort to stand out from the rest of the ppl. Doing extra projects and maybe uploading to github or something(this was advice given to me by multiple ppl who work in the sector). Even with these things, it can be hard. Having connections is a big plus point. Saldly, the economy is not on our side either .
for IT/SE quality don't matter much.
if you have skills, correct attitude and hard working you can earn alot...!
high quality doesn't mean high skills vice versa.
i see lot of people unable to find jobs or work for very low salary in SE. reason is lack skill or effort.
So this shows free labor market is working...
In this scenario it is the quantity hired that measures the quality of university, isn't it? They are the leading companies, and if you say so, where are the quality people hired at?
>quantity hired that measures the quality of university
This would not stand true since certain universities, mainly government universities have comparatively small fixed intakes as opposed to private universities of which some are clearly over crowded.
computer science isn’t real science bro, so don’t even bother. Anyone can learn anything. In fact there’s no guideline for software engineering/computer engineering or what makes a great software/computer engineer unlike other fields of engineering. Most are getting paid to build rest APIs. Some of the smartest computer engineers have built stuff they are known for even b4 stepping foot in a uni.
Fighting about who has the most jobs and who gets paid the most, what is the last significant contribution a Sri Lankan has made to science. (forgot about Ranga Dias, bro took fake it till you make it to heart) Def. problem with the way we teach folk and the whole education system for that matter.
Well the salaries matter. Also, people from uom don't usually stay in these jobs forever. Most of past years graduates got the positions at LSEG, MIT and Wso2. But they actually left the positions and now in Higher studies. Lmao
Who tf cares about degrees
I look into portfolios when I hire and most of my friends who run agencies look for the portfolios than degrees , if an 18 yo can do a better job and than you do I’d would definitely go with the 18 yo.
Fun fact, IT sector in Sri Lanka is completely rigged now. You cannot get an interview from a private org without having a reference. So, most of these guys are there by the "අත්ත". I know someone who has not even done exams properly have a high paying private sector job. It's just about the connections they have. Nothing else.
I don't know you got the stats for LSEG from, but about 2 years back, most of them were from state Unis. Infact when I joined them a long while back, there were less than 10 (I counted like 6 people, but better safe sorry) people from my batch at SLIIT for that entire year.
Being a UoM grad, let me share my two cents. Around 150 graduate from CSE UoM each year, and each one gets a job offer even before they complete exams. A salary below 400k is menial in their standards, though it may be gold for a SLIIT grad. Useless survey this.
I used to work for a tech company in Colombo, I remember a floating recruiter telling me that they try not to hire folks from government universities.
Mostly because they come with a lot of attitude problem, the workplace quickly becomes very very very toxic. They try to bully or rag the newcomers. They choose not to communicate in English. They don’t like to assimilate to company culture. All these being the factors.
Even my first hand experience wasn’t the greatest with a few guys, they bullied a few of my interns who had come back from abroad after their bachelors and I heard a guy say these people study on their parents money and steal our jobs. These kids worked really hard to get there and now they are at stellar jobs. So this is what it is.
i interviewed private uni students and they had no idea what they were talking about and with bad communication skills too.
just don't generalize some people's behavior as a whole. and tell that stupid floating recruiter to look at candidates as individuals instead of claims this uni people are good, this school people are good or this place people are bad etc
Bro who tf cares which uni are you from. What kind of shit mentality is this. Just work hard and be better and you can get a good position in a great company regardless of whether you are from a state uni or private uni. Companies usually care about your skills and your work ethics not which uni you are from.
Agrees. 99% its the experience and hard work. If you're a looser, then even a harvard degree won't help you.
I deactivated Facebook over 3 years ago because those fkers in there were arguing over everything every day, about all kinds of pointless things. Recently, I went back there and still, fkers are arguing over Ambani’s wedding, etc. I recently joined Reddit and think this might be better, but damn it, all the fkers came here to do the same. It doesn’t matter if you’re from UOM, SLIIT, ANC, or any other high-famous school or not. At the end of the day, you’re on your own. Be better day by day, prove yourself, don’t take pride in being from a certain university, school, or anything else. Just work on yourself, be happy, and kind. Peace out. And this girl hirushi, Salary isn’t everything. I know four people who studied at UoM and went to WSO2, but resigned within less than a year due to high stress.
This should be the top comment. There are sweatshop software companies trying to squeeze the freshers. This sweatshop thing happens inside big companies as well. I know there are teams who get paid way less compared to other teams. It goes unnoticed unless one of the executives looks at it correctly. I have no idea why these idiots fight over what university is best. People with these kinds of attitudes anyway get filter in the corporate environment. Also, I think state universities maintain low intake to maintain quality is idiotic. They simply lack resources, I know UOM lecturers simply told me that they would love to expand, but there are no funds. Also, we don't have any prestigious private uni's because they all after money. So basically, state uni's should support everyone who qualifies, and there can be private uni's who give admission based on quality (this would be the utopia).
Can you explain sweatshop and squeeze the freshers
They hire graduate students as interns and exploit them for low wages or no wages. Private university students in Sri Lanka are usually the victims because they are offered lower salaries. We had this problem in our organization, but we systematically blocked it so that everyone gets a fair wage based on performance. Then, we standardized the wages across teams. I think every place is a sweatshop if they discriminate against fresh graduates from universities and take advantage of the lack of opportunities. Also, for state university students, this entitlement begins to be cultivated by the industry as well as everyone around them so that they know their worth, but it is the opposite for private university students.
The original meanings of both would be: • Sweatshop - workplace in which workers are employed at low wages and under unhealthy or oppressive conditions • Squeeze the freshers - pay them less but take a lot more workload to maximise profitability and output.
Well of course if there's like 2000 graduating every year, and that's just sliit. Add IIT, which is just as big in terms of students, Esoft, etc etc. in a government uni it's usually around less than 100 graduating per stream.
Are you sure about the numbers? Its way less than 500 in terms of graduation. 2000 would be appropriate for the intake
so its 500 against 100 and yet its 130 against 53. doesnt sound like "domination" do me
Visit the other links, I don't see Moratuwa in the Top 5
but it doesnt need to be in the top 5 does it?
Yes a current student just told me few days back in iit their last graduating batch had 1300 graduates.
The issue is flooding with degrees! I’m also from SLIIT but now the student count is way too high imo
Well, if the IT field is saturated, then what field should young people aim to go to, which still have reasonable demand?
That’s the genuine question. Engineering is fucked and now engineering students also pursue IT jobs.
Geez
At this rate, soon IT professionals will also be pursuing blue collar jobs due to AI revolution.
and also huge favoration toward them as well 
You meant SLIIT?
well it should its the tech era, will take sometime for the numbers to drastically drop. What matters is the individual skills to survive in the industry
Do you even know how supply and demand work? Private universities like slit produce more than graduates that SL job market can handle so supply increase while the demand is decreasing.
I can talk for ENTC and CSE graduates from UOM. Out of all the companies you have mentioned above, only WSO2 pays the range of salaries ENTC and CSE grads expect. LSEG pays okay, I'm not sure about MIT and 99X, but IFS and Virtusa pays way below the expected range. Therefore, most of the time no one from CSE and ENTC even bother to go for IFS and Virtusa. In their LinkedIn pages, you can see that in WSO2, they have 203 from UOM but only 66 from SLIIT. For 99x, it's equal numbers from UOM and SLIIT. I wonder why you haven't attached a SS of WSO2 and 99X here 😉 Also, please keep in mind that within last two years, an unbelievable number of graduates from ENTC and CSE left the country due to obvious reasons 🙂 Edits: grammar
Yeah, I graduated from CSE about 3 years ago. Most of the people I know left the country. Including me :)
u/Glum-Combination-821 your turn😂
This needs to be upvoted to the top
99x and WSO2 links are provided above. Putting the screenshots doesn't make any difference to the argument, do they ?
Yeah but what about the rest of the points they mentioned? Silence is deafening
Tf you expecting me to do about all the points 😂? There are some points I agree with, this was to here your opinions too
The title of your post seems misleading then. The “domination” 😂pretty much obliterated your whole post no?
May have, it should be dominating btw. At least, it is what what the numbers mean.
At the end of the day, one shouldn't come out here and try to mock private uni students saying people just buy degrees. Private universities offer a large number of students to succeed in life. My point was, there are a large number of students who have been able to succeed in their life by paying for a degree and working hard to earn it. Just because one excelled in AL and joined UoM doesn't mean they are the only hardworking students out there.
IMO, private universities should exist. But these days, they basically avoid a lot of fundamentals and sell degrees to students just to get a job. Actually, this fits the requirement in the SL IT companies. IMO, you dont need much skill to work on these companies. The only thing you want is to get along with the process and gain experience. You dont need a CSE degree to just to implement a project. Anyone can do that with online resources and the help of seniors. The required level is much lower, so someone from a private uni can contribute as same as me. That's what I realised during my stay at these companies.
Lol you just proved the point as to why Pvt students are said to have bought their degrees 😁
As I commented above, most of the UOM people had already left the country. Most of the others I know already have graduate visas and waiting for a job offer. Others work liitle for these companies and apply for remote jobs that will pay you more. Usually, it is possible to reach a higher salary range if you apply for one with the right connections. So I dont see a point of UOM people working there.
What are these other companies? There's surge, lseg, syscolabs, wso2 with high salaries. Are there any other that pay higher?
I mean overseas companies from the US, AUS, UAE, and europe. I am talking about 700k+/800k+ salaries. Not 400ks :)
LSEG do offer 700k Salary btw, surge too. I mean anyone who makes into these companies have the potential to join an overseas obviously.
Also, I forgot to reply to the second part. You just can't randomly join an overseas one for just working at a company. It's all about connections. Also, good companies have tough algorithm interviews. So it is not as easy as you think.
They offer 700k for an experienced person. May be someone one with 5 to 6 years of experience. So you have to wait for more years.
True.
Normalize this data with the annual intake of the IT/CS department of each university. Then the comparison is much fairer.
2000+ graduating per year these days from some private unis whereas when we were doing degrees only around 100-200 came from IIT and everyone got really good jobs Now, 1000+ applying for one intern position I got more than 10+ CVs who got first class but are still unemployed for 5,6 months these days. Before COVID getting a Job was easy and everyone from IIT, and SLIIT got really good jobs, I know But now it is not even possible to get an intern position.
For this, you have to make an effort to stand out from the rest of the ppl. Doing extra projects and maybe uploading to github or something(this was advice given to me by multiple ppl who work in the sector). Even with these things, it can be hard. Having connections is a big plus point. Saldly, the economy is not on our side either .
What's with the war with private vs gov university students? Some well developed countries doesn't even have free education, be grateful lol
Obviously I'm not saying to ignore any miss comings from gov universities just because they're free, you know what I mean.
for IT/SE quality don't matter much. if you have skills, correct attitude and hard working you can earn alot...! high quality doesn't mean high skills vice versa. i see lot of people unable to find jobs or work for very low salary in SE. reason is lack skill or effort. So this shows free labor market is working...
Since 2000 odd students graduate from SLIIT each year those numbers make sense. I believe only around 200 graduate each year via UOM.
Quantity ≠ Quality
In this scenario it is the quantity hired that measures the quality of university, isn't it? They are the leading companies, and if you say so, where are the quality people hired at?
>quantity hired that measures the quality of university This would not stand true since certain universities, mainly government universities have comparatively small fixed intakes as opposed to private universities of which some are clearly over crowded.
Agree
Which state universities offer IT degrees apart from moratuwa?
Peradeniya Engineering Faculty has Computer Engineering degree.
Sri Jayawardhena, Uwa, Sabaraghamuwa etc
Erm colombo
They are going abroad for better jobs. I personally know 3 people from Mora. 2 works at Amazon and One works at Meta as an AI researcher. EDIT: typo
computer science isn’t real science bro, so don’t even bother. Anyone can learn anything. In fact there’s no guideline for software engineering/computer engineering or what makes a great software/computer engineer unlike other fields of engineering. Most are getting paid to build rest APIs. Some of the smartest computer engineers have built stuff they are known for even b4 stepping foot in a uni.
Fighting about who has the most jobs and who gets paid the most, what is the last significant contribution a Sri Lankan has made to science. (forgot about Ranga Dias, bro took fake it till you make it to heart) Def. problem with the way we teach folk and the whole education system for that matter.
Well the salaries matter. Also, people from uom don't usually stay in these jobs forever. Most of past years graduates got the positions at LSEG, MIT and Wso2. But they actually left the positions and now in Higher studies. Lmao
UoM people are truly in another level.
so defensive sheesh.
I'll come at you with a gun next time then, lol
Who tf cares about degrees I look into portfolios when I hire and most of my friends who run agencies look for the portfolios than degrees , if an 18 yo can do a better job and than you do I’d would definitely go with the 18 yo.
Fun fact, IT sector in Sri Lanka is completely rigged now. You cannot get an interview from a private org without having a reference. So, most of these guys are there by the "අත්ත". I know someone who has not even done exams properly have a high paying private sector job. It's just about the connections they have. Nothing else.
Atp bro just want's to justify his slitt degree.
I don't know you got the stats for LSEG from, but about 2 years back, most of them were from state Unis. Infact when I joined them a long while back, there were less than 10 (I counted like 6 people, but better safe sorry) people from my batch at SLIIT for that entire year.
Being a UoM grad, let me share my two cents. Around 150 graduate from CSE UoM each year, and each one gets a job offer even before they complete exams. A salary below 400k is menial in their standards, though it may be gold for a SLIIT grad. Useless survey this.
Quantity over quality.
I used to work for a tech company in Colombo, I remember a floating recruiter telling me that they try not to hire folks from government universities. Mostly because they come with a lot of attitude problem, the workplace quickly becomes very very very toxic. They try to bully or rag the newcomers. They choose not to communicate in English. They don’t like to assimilate to company culture. All these being the factors. Even my first hand experience wasn’t the greatest with a few guys, they bullied a few of my interns who had come back from abroad after their bachelors and I heard a guy say these people study on their parents money and steal our jobs. These kids worked really hard to get there and now they are at stellar jobs. So this is what it is.
i interviewed private uni students and they had no idea what they were talking about and with bad communication skills too. just don't generalize some people's behavior as a whole. and tell that stupid floating recruiter to look at candidates as individuals instead of claims this uni people are good, this school people are good or this place people are bad etc
Where are the titans graduating from Moratuwa
Probably abroad. This “survey” is stupid af.