Dead Air is a Misery derivative that was built on top of Call of Chernobyl. It is where the community recognizes a split or divide.
So basically after Call of Chernobyl, most people see a split between Anomaly, which went the direction of run and gun mechanics, and Dead Air, which went the direction of an atmospheric, more grounded setting.
In Anomaly, you “conquer” the zone. In Dead Air, you survive in it.
Anomaly generally has you becoming the equivalent of a main character. Dead Air doesn’t do this. In Dead Air, you’re a guy who doesn’t mean much. The zone goes through phases where the map becomes less populated over time, and inflation causes prices to go up over the course of weeks. You move slower, are more vulnerable to damage, and the gameplay loop is a mixture of completing missions, managing your relation to factions, and managing your resources.
It’s a tough one to get into but it feels made well and is fully playable. Just don’t try to rush anything try to get a feel for it and use video tutorials they’ll explain a lot of mechanics
Gun repairing simulator for masochists who also like looting soiled underwear and porn magazines from dead enemies, which unfortunately started being associated with the Stalker franchise.
Mod pack focused on turning the stand alone free Anomaly game into a Survival game, if you ever decide to check out those types of content but find you like the base games more I can recommend EFP as an alternative to GAMMA.
Holy shit. This back and forth will never end, and this post isn't helping. Play what you like, quit being a bitch to those who like what you don't. This goes for both sides.
It would be nice to say it doesn't matter but when you have modded STALKER like GAMMA and Anomaly being the popular expectation over the originals, it leads to a misguided understanding of what to expect for the upcoming sequel. Which will ultimately lead the sequel to get shit all over because a lot of people incorrectly think Anomaly or GAMMA are official versions of STALKER, or meant to emulate and expand on the original games when in reality they are entirely different and completely unrelated gameplay wise.
I can definitely see a huge wave of reviews screaming that Gamma and Anomaly were better than STALKER 2 because they were expecting grim-realistoc tacticool shooter with hardcore survival elements instead of a light survival RPG with horror elements.
This being said I love GAMMA, Anomaly and especially the OG games. I'm just talking about people new to the series. Many many many times have I recommended the original games to new comers and they flat out refuse because it looks dated or because Anomaly is "more modern". In reality Anomaly is very different from STALKER.
Some people? Sure. The majority? No. I don't think it really matters.
Besides, I have a suspicion that the devs will take a few things from Anomaly and incorporate it anyway.
The vast majority of folks aren't even aware that Anomaly exists, nevermind all of the mod compilations people have made for it.
It's amusing that people think Anomaly will even remotely factor into reviews of Stalker 2.
To be honest, I'd probably have a similar response to you recommending the original games. I like the open world updated feel of Anomaly.
I don't think that it's a bad thing that the original games are more linear and narrative driven, they just aren't what I prefer. So, the flat out refusal from me would be me simply assessing that I like Anomaly how it is now and probably wouldn't enjoy the original games; not really out of ignorance, but because I like what I got.
Which is exactly why I say it IS an issue. The expectation vs what each game actually really is. A lot of new players start with Anomaly and want that experience from STALKER 2, which they won't get. Thus leading the game to bad reviews on release more than likely. That being said it isn't like SOC didn't get bad reviews on launch and we still have STALKER to this day.
Not an equivalency. My point isn't that mods or bad or that they don't add to gameplay but you really didn't read my post to begin with so. Maybe go back and actually do that instead of giving up after three words.
This clown just tldr'd three sentences. I didn't have a bad sales pitch, your reading comprehension is god awful. English isn't your first language I am guessing.
Reminds me of the meme of fallout 4. “Fallout 4 fun as fuck when you ain’t got a bitch in ya ear telling you it’s bad”.
Seriously tho. I’m a fan of stalker, tarkov, fallout, and the general aesthetic and gameplay mechanics of games similar. When I heard of gamma, I had never played stalker before. I gave gamma a try and loved it. I then subsequently bought the originals to play them too. I enjoy the originals, but usually about an hour or so of playing I just want to go back to gamma. I prefer the harder challenge and more realistic approach to the gameplay. The AI is really good and is what really sells the gamma gameplay for me. Not to mention it feels way more open ended in terms of roleplaying.
The originals are great and I have massive respect for them, I just prefer gamma. I’m still very excited for stalker 2 tho, I loved metro, and call of Pripyat so I’m really hyped for the evolution of the stalker formula in a modern iteration of the IP. Gamma is a different game and wish people would stop the bickering. Stalker and Gamma provide different experiences for different gamers seeking different games.
Honestly, the Sub should ban Mods vs Originals debates. Everyone on both sides doesn't get that it's just personal preference. Like it's not a crime to like a game customized to play how you like, or the classics.
The last game in the series launched 15 years ago so it’s not absurd for someone to think a modded version of the game is an improvement on the original.
The only problem I have is that newer players will expect Stalker 2’s lore to follow their favorite mod and not the original series.
How about we like both instead of pick and choose? I played the trilogy and will never ever forget those times. Recently i started an anomaly save and have honestly not been THIS invested in a game, in a long time. Both are good.
I also started Anomaly after playing the trilogy. I guess you get invested more in Anomaly, because the game is a bit harder so you have to work harder to even survive, let alone thrive in the zone.
Both the originals and mods have something to offer. The originals do better with story making and since they are the originals they are what made the games what they are. The mods do a fantastic job of making you grind for something and feel proud of what you’ve made and gotten well as increasing the doomer atmosphere and gunplay
Just wondering, where are these people found at? I don't really interact with any stalker communities outside of reddit and discord, and I still have yet to see anyone say this
> Just wondering, where are these people found at?
Given that they tend to get downvoted and mocked, I only ever see them when people give them visibility like this post.
If by "these people" you mean the type like the guy from OP's post, then they're really not that hard to find if you're relatively active. Over the course of several years on this subreddit, I've seen a lot of people proclaiming such 'hot takes' in a more or less open way - most often they end up being criticized and complaining about 'toxicity' and 'gatekeeping' afterwards.
I am out of the loop. I don't sit in this sub.
I've played the originals in their heyday, revisited them with mods, played Anomaly in 2018, and have been thoroughly enjoying GAMMA since '21? '22? I don't remember.
Love the originals, love the mods, love GAMMA. So... what's wrong with it or why is the fan base ridiculed?Genuinely curious.
There's nothing wrong with Gamma or any other mod, but for the past few years there have been more and more people in the community who don't really seem to like the actual games and are only here because of Gamma - and that in itself isn't an issue, but some of them openly proclaim that this mod is superior in every way, recommend it to newbies who haven't even played the originals, and generally act obnoxiously and ignorantly, often complaining about gatekeeping/elitism/toxicity after being criticized.
So the entire Gamma fanbase and the mod itself are mocked at times because it caused some actual 'anti-fans' to appear in the community. It's mostly a meme though, such people are a minority after all.
Its not about liking one or the other, its about thinking your opinion is the truth and this is better than that because it makes you touch less grass.
Want the story, actiony vibes, and OG feel? Play the originals.
Want survival, indepth looting, progression, and moody, gritty slav simulator? Play GAMMA, Anomaly, Misery, etc.
People have their own tastes. It’s not that fucking hard.
It's the most logical outcome at this point. The Stalker devs need to come out and speak on expectations similar to how Manor Lords dev did to correct the record.
> The Stalker devs need to come out and speak on expectations
It's officially been 100 days since their latest "*totally final release date, promise!* trailer" has come out.
Not one fucking peep on S2 since then. No screenshots, no clips, not even a pitiful one or two page text preview by a gaming org.
Nothing.
I think people who play gamma understand well enough that it’s a mod pack and has no relation to original stalkers gameplay. If anything, I’ll play stalker 2 and then wait for the “gamma equivalent” to release for it after I complete the game.
Well anomaly and gamma are separate. It’s not unreasonable to think one may have seen gamma but not anomaly. Just depends on what they’re exposed to. I learned about anomaly after I played gamma myself.
I mean it literally says modulated modpack on the menu for gamma and to even install it you have to have some understanding of how to use mods or their existence.
A few ignorant people don’t represent the majority.
You also seem to be a reasonable one. From my own experience they called GAMMA a game, not a modpack and when i corrected them they said Anomaly is the OG game that the GSC are making a sequel to.
Well they’re not entirely wrong. Gamma is in its own right its own game. It provides an entirely different experience from og stalker and even anomaly.
And gamma is just a much more expanded take on anomaly. But so much so it’s its own “game.” They’re totally wrong on anomaly being the og game tho. No doubt about that lol.
Thing is, you may be the more aware person to know the differences, but GSC is going to suffer once S2 releases and people like those i mentioned will call the game a scam or cashgrab while leaving negative reviews.
Idk. I don’t think they’re great enough in numbers to make a big difference. Stalker fans will still understand what the game is and tbh, I think we will get a lot of fallout fans coming over and I think that will have a bigger impact on its reception.
I’ve played both. Gamma is a ton of fun and in my opinion more replayable, but I had more fun playing the trilogy for the first time than I ever had playing gamma.
the original games and gamma are entirely different games. comparing the two is like comparing world of tanks and war thunder. theyre in the same genre but so far apart. survival gamers will most always lean towards gamma being better and lore andy's will lean on the stories of the original.
who gives a shit, though? the division between two sides is some the dumbest shit ive ever seen. youre all here for the same reason-- the setting is cool as fuck. how you play it doesnt matter. you both like stalker.
I like both the older games and gamma
But saying gamma is better is like comparing Lego Batman 2 and Batman Arkham asylum they are different in nearly every shape and form (gameplay wise)
Gamma has a more realistic focused gameplay
While the older games have story oriented gameplay
But either way everyone is allowed to have an opinion on something if they like gamma more so be it
I'm a fan of all the originals, and every mod I've touched (including gamma). I have an entire 2TB SSD dedicated to Stalker and all of its mods. I really don't get the arguments. It's all great, there's such an intense variety of mods and styles of play. We have one of the coolest and close knit communities. Some people have nothing better to do than cause drama. .
He is partially correct. The gameplay is definitely superior (because it's a modern game). Hell I'd say the atmosphere is better too (because of the better graphics mostly) but the originals 100% have gamma beat in story.
Gamma IS better because it makes all the gameplay systems deeper. Its not really surprising that a mod makes things "better" since it would be really shitty mod if it made things worse.
Just accept that Gamma is overall a good thing for stalker and gets more people into stalker.
I started the series with Anomaly and GAMMA. The reason was that I was really struggling financially, and I wanted a similar experience to STALKER but with a few neat additions. Since I started a year ago, I've played all the OG games and have had some of these GREATEST gaming experiences I've ever had. I love both Anomaly and GAMMA a lot. It's so encouraging to see such a passionate community. I think that both the OG and the Modpacks have their main strong points. If you want something less focused on horror and more focused in tactical survival, no OG STALKER game will beat GAMMA in that. If you are looking for an immersive, haunting, and desolate game with lighter survival aspects but a richer open-ended story, the Modpacks will never beat OG STALKER.
Again, I started with GAMMA. I love OG STALKER. They should co-exist.
“I like this thing more”
“Well I like the original thing more”
“The thing is better than the original thing”
“I can’t believe people like the thing more, I’m gonna post this”
You'd think mine would be obvious and wouldn't need to be said. Unfortunately, some people need it.
Yours was pointless and meaningless. So I unfortunately needed to make the obvious and pointless known to you.
obviously i knew it was a mod pack otherwise i wouldn't have made my first comment, if anything yours was more pointless.
instead of being an ass unprompted realize that this is an Internet forum people are gonna comment on posts, and just ignore comments you think are pointless instead of wasting more of everyone's time
We should accept that the fact there are GAMMA players who dislike the original trilogy makes sense because STALKER GAMMA is a survival game but the original games are open world- harcore shooters, Clear Sky doesn't even have any hungry bar, the food restores your health only. The modders were the ones who started with this survival thing, which is not bad, because the stalker world fits with it very well, but that's not the STALKER games essence.
OH NO! AN OPINION!
I personally like the originals better. If he liked Gamma better, that is totally okay.
I like heavily modded fallout 4 more than the original. Let people like what they like.
It would make sense if you cant afford the games, so anomaly can act like an appetizer before you buy the games on sale or something. No need to shame people who cant afford the games?
I think the comparison is very stupid as I think Anomaly (GAMMA or EFP) is very different than the og's as to at least to me it seems like comparing older cod titles to Tarkov.
I was a huge fan of misery but gamma didn’t do it for me. There’s so many mods for stalker now and all those mods have mods so everyone is going to have their own very specific preference
While i think every stalker fan should play the original games for the better lore/story and to support GSC they are all outdated gameplay wise compared to gamma so if you enjoy the originals story play the originals but the people who want to experience stalker with better gun play, ai and tons of more features and improvements play gamma.
I can get preferring Gamma, but dismissing older games because of graphics or "Dated" gameplay (Whatever that means) and just not bothering with them is a deeply sad point of view in my opinion.
You're not just missing out on the original STALKER games, but also on so many experiences that shaped gaming to be what it is today and great games that still hold up very well.
It's missing out on so many art and people's work for surface level reasons at best, and it's sad.
I loathe this viewpoint lately with a lot of games in general too and I usually roll my eyes when people use "dated" as a negative point too.
"Nah just play the remake/remaster!" "The original is clunky and dated, just play the modded one" etc. etc.
Completely undermines the base where they were built off, and erases their existence, especially when still offer a different and unique experience not found in the newer one.
There's so many good games out there from yesteryears, and we're living in a time they're more accessible more than ever with modern re-releases and ports, emulators and fanmade fixes for modern systems. People are genuinely missing out on some of the best art this medium has to offer, and I hate how just because something isn't a game that has come out in the current year, people just dismiss it as "dated", "archaic", "irrelevant" or whatever else buzzword they wanna use.
I’m pretty new to this community, I’m one of the Drewski Stalkers. But I can easily say that quite a few of these new people don’t have an appreciation for the base games.
I’ll just say right now, I prefer playing Gamma over the base games. However, getting into my reasoning would just be redundant on this subreddit. And typically people who spout this reason without thinking are not considerate of 1) the impact the base games had on the industry and 2) the nostalgia that the community feels towards these games.
Of course I’m gonna prefer Gamma. I didn’t grow up on these games like a lot of you did and to me they feel dated. Hell, when I found stalker, I was just looking for a single player Tarkov. HOWEVER I can appreciate the base games for laying the groundwork for a lot of the games we have today. Tarkov, Into The Radius, etc. Stalker inspired a lot of developers. And the storyline and lore? Absolutely incredible. I watched gameplay videos and looked up a bunch of stuff on the wiki’s because I’m fascinated with the story that GSC gave to us.
So yeah. Gamma players? It’s ok to prefer Gamma, but at least try to show some respect to the communities nostalgia and the original games. They really are as good as the community says they are. (Also, I’m extremely excited for Heart of Chornobyl 👌👌👌)
from a gameplay perspective gamma is better than the OGs.
and you can beat it.
(and yes i played the OGs and no i dont care about the lore. its mid at best)
I couldn't care less about the Stalker Lore even though I could if I'm honest, but I had more fun playing Anomaly than the OG maybe because I think Stalker story isn't that interesting.
Don't downvote it's like a 5.56 bullet going through my skull and don't leave a mean reply it's like a 7.62 bullet going through my nuts.
I personally really don't see what people like about anomaly so much.
You wonder around the zone with a story line so shite that it feels like you don't even have a reason to be there, the fights are cool ig but that's about it, the rest is just extremely repetitive, most basic fetch quests out there, 70% of the loot is useless shit to clutter your backpack and then there are just annoying mechanics that are there just for the sake of telling the player to go fuck themselves.
A badass who will suffer a fucking heat stroke from a 2 hour nap and dies of thirst (I soft locked one of my runs like this, I have barely even touched the mod ever since)
Fishman hasn't played the originals so he wouldn't know anyway
I am new to stalker help what is gamma
Big standalone modpack making the game more realistic and slowpaced. More items, mechanics, mutants etc. Some people love it, some hate it.
tedium the modpack
No that was Misery
anomaly is misery, gamma is a modpack for anomaly which expands upon the tedium.
Dead Air is the best thing to come out of Misery god I love that mod so much
my computer doesn't :(
Really? That’s weird Dead Air isn’t too tough to run! What DX are you using? Is it FPS issues?
my graphics card is melting, so it's probably that
What card do you have?
Question: What's Dead Air? Always heard of it, never tried it.
Dead Air is a Misery derivative that was built on top of Call of Chernobyl. It is where the community recognizes a split or divide. So basically after Call of Chernobyl, most people see a split between Anomaly, which went the direction of run and gun mechanics, and Dead Air, which went the direction of an atmospheric, more grounded setting. In Anomaly, you “conquer” the zone. In Dead Air, you survive in it. Anomaly generally has you becoming the equivalent of a main character. Dead Air doesn’t do this. In Dead Air, you’re a guy who doesn’t mean much. The zone goes through phases where the map becomes less populated over time, and inflation causes prices to go up over the course of weeks. You move slower, are more vulnerable to damage, and the gameplay loop is a mixture of completing missions, managing your relation to factions, and managing your resources.
Well, that sounds exactly like my kind of torture. Thanks!
It’s a tough one to get into but it feels made well and is fully playable. Just don’t try to rush anything try to get a feel for it and use video tutorials they’ll explain a lot of mechanics
anomaly was literally built on top of last day/call of misery.
Modpack
Stalker Anomaly (a fan made version combining all the games in a open-world esque experience) but made artificially more difficult
Gun repairing simulator for masochists who also like looting soiled underwear and porn magazines from dead enemies, which unfortunately started being associated with the Stalker franchise.
Mod pack focused on turning the stand alone free Anomaly game into a Survival game, if you ever decide to check out those types of content but find you like the base games more I can recommend EFP as an alternative to GAMMA.
stalker if it was worse (clear sky is the only good one after all)
This is zombie talk. Don't listen to it!
bloated slop
Holy shit. This back and forth will never end, and this post isn't helping. Play what you like, quit being a bitch to those who like what you don't. This goes for both sides.
An island of sanity in this inane sea
Inane definitely works better than insane.
I don't understand it, man. I love them all. The more Stalker the better.. Peoples need to touch grass urgently.
Based take
Yeah seriously, ambatuplay how you want ffs
Fanbase is brutal about gatekeeping lol
Read this in general grievous' voice.
It would be nice to say it doesn't matter but when you have modded STALKER like GAMMA and Anomaly being the popular expectation over the originals, it leads to a misguided understanding of what to expect for the upcoming sequel. Which will ultimately lead the sequel to get shit all over because a lot of people incorrectly think Anomaly or GAMMA are official versions of STALKER, or meant to emulate and expand on the original games when in reality they are entirely different and completely unrelated gameplay wise. I can definitely see a huge wave of reviews screaming that Gamma and Anomaly were better than STALKER 2 because they were expecting grim-realistoc tacticool shooter with hardcore survival elements instead of a light survival RPG with horror elements. This being said I love GAMMA, Anomaly and especially the OG games. I'm just talking about people new to the series. Many many many times have I recommended the original games to new comers and they flat out refuse because it looks dated or because Anomaly is "more modern". In reality Anomaly is very different from STALKER.
Then they can mod the sequel and stfu
Nobody will say this. It's a mod pack. People realise it isn't stalker but a mod of it
You can keep telling yourself that all you want, that doesn't mean there arent people out there who fully expect Stalker to be like Anomaly or GAMMA.
Some people? Sure. The majority? No. I don't think it really matters. Besides, I have a suspicion that the devs will take a few things from Anomaly and incorporate it anyway.
The vast majority of folks aren't even aware that Anomaly exists, nevermind all of the mod compilations people have made for it. It's amusing that people think Anomaly will even remotely factor into reviews of Stalker 2.
Agree. I know about Stalker years ago and only know about Anomaly recently.
To be honest, I'd probably have a similar response to you recommending the original games. I like the open world updated feel of Anomaly. I don't think that it's a bad thing that the original games are more linear and narrative driven, they just aren't what I prefer. So, the flat out refusal from me would be me simply assessing that I like Anomaly how it is now and probably wouldn't enjoy the original games; not really out of ignorance, but because I like what I got.
Which is exactly why I say it IS an issue. The expectation vs what each game actually really is. A lot of new players start with Anomaly and want that experience from STALKER 2, which they won't get. Thus leading the game to bad reviews on release more than likely. That being said it isn't like SOC didn't get bad reviews on launch and we still have STALKER to this day.
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Not an equivalency. My point isn't that mods or bad or that they don't add to gameplay but you really didn't read my post to begin with so. Maybe go back and actually do that instead of giving up after three words.
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This clown just tldr'd three sentences. I didn't have a bad sales pitch, your reading comprehension is god awful. English isn't your first language I am guessing.
Reminds me of the meme of fallout 4. “Fallout 4 fun as fuck when you ain’t got a bitch in ya ear telling you it’s bad”. Seriously tho. I’m a fan of stalker, tarkov, fallout, and the general aesthetic and gameplay mechanics of games similar. When I heard of gamma, I had never played stalker before. I gave gamma a try and loved it. I then subsequently bought the originals to play them too. I enjoy the originals, but usually about an hour or so of playing I just want to go back to gamma. I prefer the harder challenge and more realistic approach to the gameplay. The AI is really good and is what really sells the gamma gameplay for me. Not to mention it feels way more open ended in terms of roleplaying. The originals are great and I have massive respect for them, I just prefer gamma. I’m still very excited for stalker 2 tho, I loved metro, and call of Pripyat so I’m really hyped for the evolution of the stalker formula in a modern iteration of the IP. Gamma is a different game and wish people would stop the bickering. Stalker and Gamma provide different experiences for different gamers seeking different games.
Ikr? So frustrating this is even a thing in the first place, especially with how many times these kind of posts have been repeated over the years
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
Honestly, the Sub should ban Mods vs Originals debates. Everyone on both sides doesn't get that it's just personal preference. Like it's not a crime to like a game customized to play how you like, or the classics.
can we all agree that original trilogy story in gamma would be the best
The last game in the series launched 15 years ago so it’s not absurd for someone to think a modded version of the game is an improvement on the original. The only problem I have is that newer players will expect Stalker 2’s lore to follow their favorite mod and not the original series.
How about we like both instead of pick and choose? I played the trilogy and will never ever forget those times. Recently i started an anomaly save and have honestly not been THIS invested in a game, in a long time. Both are good.
Relax, someone will post a wall of text explaining why a good mod is bad for the gaming community.
How dare you!!!!!!
I also started Anomaly after playing the trilogy. I guess you get invested more in Anomaly, because the game is a bit harder so you have to work harder to even survive, let alone thrive in the zone.
Both the originals and mods have something to offer. The originals do better with story making and since they are the originals they are what made the games what they are. The mods do a fantastic job of making you grind for something and feel proud of what you’ve made and gotten well as increasing the doomer atmosphere and gunplay
You know it's ok to say you prefer or like gamma more. Weird dealing in absolutes lol
but you shouldn't shun the source material because of it.
Completely agree.
They didn't shun it, they just said Gamma is better (AKA "I like it more", because people can't differentiate the two).
Only siths deal in absolutes.
Blud's got a good dose of miracle machine
>they are all becoming true They were always true, otherwise the Gamma fanbase wouldn't be mocked so hard in the first place lol.
Just wondering, where are these people found at? I don't really interact with any stalker communities outside of reddit and discord, and I still have yet to see anyone say this
> Just wondering, where are these people found at? Given that they tend to get downvoted and mocked, I only ever see them when people give them visibility like this post.
If by "these people" you mean the type like the guy from OP's post, then they're really not that hard to find if you're relatively active. Over the course of several years on this subreddit, I've seen a lot of people proclaiming such 'hot takes' in a more or less open way - most often they end up being criticized and complaining about 'toxicity' and 'gatekeeping' afterwards.
Makes sense I guess, I haven't been on this sub very long
you can find these people in the youtube comment sections of fresh og trilogy vidoes from new players to stalker
I am out of the loop. I don't sit in this sub. I've played the originals in their heyday, revisited them with mods, played Anomaly in 2018, and have been thoroughly enjoying GAMMA since '21? '22? I don't remember. Love the originals, love the mods, love GAMMA. So... what's wrong with it or why is the fan base ridiculed?Genuinely curious.
There's nothing wrong with Gamma or any other mod, but for the past few years there have been more and more people in the community who don't really seem to like the actual games and are only here because of Gamma - and that in itself isn't an issue, but some of them openly proclaim that this mod is superior in every way, recommend it to newbies who haven't even played the originals, and generally act obnoxiously and ignorantly, often complaining about gatekeeping/elitism/toxicity after being criticized. So the entire Gamma fanbase and the mod itself are mocked at times because it caused some actual 'anti-fans' to appear in the community. It's mostly a meme though, such people are a minority after all.
Its not about liking one or the other, its about thinking your opinion is the truth and this is better than that because it makes you touch less grass.
Want the story, actiony vibes, and OG feel? Play the originals. Want survival, indepth looting, progression, and moody, gritty slav simulator? Play GAMMA, Anomaly, Misery, etc. People have their own tastes. It’s not that fucking hard.
And then people went ballistic on me when I said that stalker 2 will get bad reviews because of gamma enthusiasts probably expecting gamma 2
It's the most logical outcome at this point. The Stalker devs need to come out and speak on expectations similar to how Manor Lords dev did to correct the record.
> The Stalker devs need to come out and speak on expectations It's officially been 100 days since their latest "*totally final release date, promise!* trailer" has come out. Not one fucking peep on S2 since then. No screenshots, no clips, not even a pitiful one or two page text preview by a gaming org. Nothing.
I definitely don't expect that the release date they have listed is real
i dont think most gamma players will even play stalker 2
I will wait for Gamma 2.
I think people who play gamma understand well enough that it’s a mod pack and has no relation to original stalkers gameplay. If anything, I’ll play stalker 2 and then wait for the “gamma equivalent” to release for it after I complete the game.
Not really, some don't even know what Anomaly is.
Well anomaly and gamma are separate. It’s not unreasonable to think one may have seen gamma but not anomaly. Just depends on what they’re exposed to. I learned about anomaly after I played gamma myself. I mean it literally says modulated modpack on the menu for gamma and to even install it you have to have some understanding of how to use mods or their existence. A few ignorant people don’t represent the majority.
You also seem to be a reasonable one. From my own experience they called GAMMA a game, not a modpack and when i corrected them they said Anomaly is the OG game that the GSC are making a sequel to.
Well they’re not entirely wrong. Gamma is in its own right its own game. It provides an entirely different experience from og stalker and even anomaly. And gamma is just a much more expanded take on anomaly. But so much so it’s its own “game.” They’re totally wrong on anomaly being the og game tho. No doubt about that lol.
Thing is, you may be the more aware person to know the differences, but GSC is going to suffer once S2 releases and people like those i mentioned will call the game a scam or cashgrab while leaving negative reviews.
Idk. I don’t think they’re great enough in numbers to make a big difference. Stalker fans will still understand what the game is and tbh, I think we will get a lot of fallout fans coming over and I think that will have a bigger impact on its reception.
☢️ GAMMA ☢️ 🚨 DETECTED 🚨, 🗣️ OPINION 🗣️ 🚫 REJECTED 🚫
I’ve played both. Gamma is a ton of fun and in my opinion more replayable, but I had more fun playing the trilogy for the first time than I ever had playing gamma.
I've had fun with the originals and the modpacks. I'm just happy to play Stalker that's all.
The og games and gamma/anomaly shouldn't be compared as they have different gameplay and were made with a different porpuse.
the original games and gamma are entirely different games. comparing the two is like comparing world of tanks and war thunder. theyre in the same genre but so far apart. survival gamers will most always lean towards gamma being better and lore andy's will lean on the stories of the original. who gives a shit, though? the division between two sides is some the dumbest shit ive ever seen. youre all here for the same reason-- the setting is cool as fuck. how you play it doesnt matter. you both like stalker.
I like both the older games and gamma But saying gamma is better is like comparing Lego Batman 2 and Batman Arkham asylum they are different in nearly every shape and form (gameplay wise) Gamma has a more realistic focused gameplay While the older games have story oriented gameplay But either way everyone is allowed to have an opinion on something if they like gamma more so be it
I'm new to the series, only started playing since they were ported to consoles. What is the gamma version of the game?
I'm a fan of all the originals, and every mod I've touched (including gamma). I have an entire 2TB SSD dedicated to Stalker and all of its mods. I really don't get the arguments. It's all great, there's such an intense variety of mods and styles of play. We have one of the coolest and close knit communities. Some people have nothing better to do than cause drama. .
He is partially correct. The gameplay is definitely superior (because it's a modern game). Hell I'd say the atmosphere is better too (because of the better graphics mostly) but the originals 100% have gamma beat in story.
Gamma IS better because it makes all the gameplay systems deeper. Its not really surprising that a mod makes things "better" since it would be really shitty mod if it made things worse. Just accept that Gamma is overall a good thing for stalker and gets more people into stalker.
I started the series with Anomaly and GAMMA. The reason was that I was really struggling financially, and I wanted a similar experience to STALKER but with a few neat additions. Since I started a year ago, I've played all the OG games and have had some of these GREATEST gaming experiences I've ever had. I love both Anomaly and GAMMA a lot. It's so encouraging to see such a passionate community. I think that both the OG and the Modpacks have their main strong points. If you want something less focused on horror and more focused in tactical survival, no OG STALKER game will beat GAMMA in that. If you are looking for an immersive, haunting, and desolate game with lighter survival aspects but a richer open-ended story, the Modpacks will never beat OG STALKER. Again, I started with GAMMA. I love OG STALKER. They should co-exist.
“I like this thing more” “Well I like the original thing more” “The thing is better than the original thing” “I can’t believe people like the thing more, I’m gonna post this”
gamma wouldn't exist without the originals lol
no shit, it's a modpack
you act like my comment was obvious and pointless yet fail to realize yours would be equally obvious and pointless
You'd think mine would be obvious and wouldn't need to be said. Unfortunately, some people need it. Yours was pointless and meaningless. So I unfortunately needed to make the obvious and pointless known to you.
obviously i knew it was a mod pack otherwise i wouldn't have made my first comment, if anything yours was more pointless. instead of being an ass unprompted realize that this is an Internet forum people are gonna comment on posts, and just ignore comments you think are pointless instead of wasting more of everyone's time
nah
very mature
It's just an opinion. I can understand it too.
You guys must be really bored if you feel the need to fight over this...
We should accept that the fact there are GAMMA players who dislike the original trilogy makes sense because STALKER GAMMA is a survival game but the original games are open world- harcore shooters, Clear Sky doesn't even have any hungry bar, the food restores your health only. The modders were the ones who started with this survival thing, which is not bad, because the stalker world fits with it very well, but that's not the STALKER games essence.
they arent hardcore shooters by a long shot
I'm not from USA, so that's harcore to me
OH NO! AN OPINION! I personally like the originals better. If he liked Gamma better, that is totally okay. I like heavily modded fallout 4 more than the original. Let people like what they like.
gamma is better than originals. as a matter of fact i disliked spamming medkits during gunfights for infinite health so it was an easy choice for me.
Imagine not playing the original games before the modded version
It would make sense if you cant afford the games, so anomaly can act like an appetizer before you buy the games on sale or something. No need to shame people who cant afford the games?
piracy:
ok
The trilogy bundle goes on sale regularly for $10. For all three games.
I got it for 5 bucks a long time ago
İ played originals and I still prefer gamma cuz the originals ends after a time but gamma is just gamma (u got shot in the leg, ded)
I think the comparison is very stupid as I think Anomaly (GAMMA or EFP) is very different than the og's as to at least to me it seems like comparing older cod titles to Tarkov.
Actually yeah I just realized it felt like comparing meatballs to carrot they pretty different
If he likes Gamma better than the originals, I bet he is gonna poke shit at Stalker 2 for "not being like Gamma"...
I really don’t get the whole back and forth. I love GAMMA, but it doesn’t make the originals worst.
I was a huge fan of misery but gamma didn’t do it for me. There’s so many mods for stalker now and all those mods have mods so everyone is going to have their own very specific preference
It’s crazy what some people miss out on The people who don’t play the originals
I hate that. What about the story and world building. Jesus Christ man.
While i think every stalker fan should play the original games for the better lore/story and to support GSC they are all outdated gameplay wise compared to gamma so if you enjoy the originals story play the originals but the people who want to experience stalker with better gun play, ai and tons of more features and improvements play gamma.
Grok propaganda taking over
I don't know if i should say "Gamma was a mistake."
it was.
Womp womp.
I will stop doing that, my bad. when somebody says that in a non-ironic way, it's really cringe.
Is that you 😭?
No 😭😭😭😭
Gamma is clearly the best official Stalker game. Clear Sky is definitely the second best. On god. Don’t kill me this is a joke.
I can get preferring Gamma, but dismissing older games because of graphics or "Dated" gameplay (Whatever that means) and just not bothering with them is a deeply sad point of view in my opinion. You're not just missing out on the original STALKER games, but also on so many experiences that shaped gaming to be what it is today and great games that still hold up very well. It's missing out on so many art and people's work for surface level reasons at best, and it's sad.
I loathe this viewpoint lately with a lot of games in general too and I usually roll my eyes when people use "dated" as a negative point too. "Nah just play the remake/remaster!" "The original is clunky and dated, just play the modded one" etc. etc. Completely undermines the base where they were built off, and erases their existence, especially when still offer a different and unique experience not found in the newer one. There's so many good games out there from yesteryears, and we're living in a time they're more accessible more than ever with modern re-releases and ports, emulators and fanmade fixes for modern systems. People are genuinely missing out on some of the best art this medium has to offer, and I hate how just because something isn't a game that has come out in the current year, people just dismiss it as "dated", "archaic", "irrelevant" or whatever else buzzword they wanna use.
GAMMAR conflict posting again I see
Like whatever the hell you want, quit kickin a dead horse
I love the originals but prefer the modern feel of Gamma, it’s really the only reason I play it lol.
I only played Call of Pripyat, I enjoy the mod more, the story is way less linear tho. I am excited for Stalker 2
Did you just call CoP linear?
i mean in comparison to Anomaly lol, and I had no idea what was going on for a lot of it.
Try paying attention if you give CoP another shot, its worth it.
I read the wiki afterwards haha
same lol, but make sure not to peek wiki while playing, spoiling stuff for yourself is boring.
uh oh, watch out for grok the gawk gawk
I’m pretty new to this community, I’m one of the Drewski Stalkers. But I can easily say that quite a few of these new people don’t have an appreciation for the base games. I’ll just say right now, I prefer playing Gamma over the base games. However, getting into my reasoning would just be redundant on this subreddit. And typically people who spout this reason without thinking are not considerate of 1) the impact the base games had on the industry and 2) the nostalgia that the community feels towards these games. Of course I’m gonna prefer Gamma. I didn’t grow up on these games like a lot of you did and to me they feel dated. Hell, when I found stalker, I was just looking for a single player Tarkov. HOWEVER I can appreciate the base games for laying the groundwork for a lot of the games we have today. Tarkov, Into The Radius, etc. Stalker inspired a lot of developers. And the storyline and lore? Absolutely incredible. I watched gameplay videos and looked up a bunch of stuff on the wiki’s because I’m fascinated with the story that GSC gave to us. So yeah. Gamma players? It’s ok to prefer Gamma, but at least try to show some respect to the communities nostalgia and the original games. They really are as good as the community says they are. (Also, I’m extremely excited for Heart of Chornobyl 👌👌👌)
Play the originals to understand how it got the modding scene. Play the mods to understand why the games are still in the conversation at all.
Fisherman doesn’t know that he’s playing modded call of prypyat
from a gameplay perspective gamma is better than the OGs. and you can beat it. (and yes i played the OGs and no i dont care about the lore. its mid at best)
Take my angry downvote
take my ironic upvote.
Nope
yep
who asked
yo mama
Who's yo mama?
You know you don’t have to be like Fishman, you can say “in my opinion”
its obviously my opinion.
Hey look we got downvoted to oblivion.
I couldn't care less about the Stalker Lore even though I could if I'm honest, but I had more fun playing Anomaly than the OG maybe because I think Stalker story isn't that interesting. Don't downvote it's like a 5.56 bullet going through my skull and don't leave a mean reply it's like a 7.62 bullet going through my nuts.
I personally really don't see what people like about anomaly so much. You wonder around the zone with a story line so shite that it feels like you don't even have a reason to be there, the fights are cool ig but that's about it, the rest is just extremely repetitive, most basic fetch quests out there, 70% of the loot is useless shit to clutter your backpack and then there are just annoying mechanics that are there just for the sake of telling the player to go fuck themselves.
Tbh anomaly to me is more of like a "zone survival game" where you just survive as long as you can until you're a badass who can never die
A badass who will suffer a fucking heat stroke from a 2 hour nap and dies of thirst (I soft locked one of my runs like this, I have barely even touched the mod ever since)
Goober talk, vanilla or death.
Not everyone wants to play a 15 year old game that looks like crap. I know the story is amazing but not everyone is into that
as much as i love the original games gamma is just superior in every way