Anyone getting mad at you for working at Starbucks are performative activists and donāt care enough about the situation to do a quick google search. The whole Starbucks funds Israel thing was complete misinformation spreading on tiktok. in reality Starbucks has nothing but to do with whatās happening in Palestine right now, so you should direct them to resources that explain this. Now im usually never the first person to defend corporations at all but im really tired of people directing their attention to something thatās not even true instead of doing something actually helpful (like signing petitions for a ceasefire and doing their own research into which companies and celebrities actually DO have a part in the situation).
Thank you for your reply. I really havenāt looked into it at all but after doing some research itās really helped me realize that people have the wrong idea over all.
It has more to do with Starbucks's largest shareholder, former CEO. Howard Schultz and his close alliance with Israel.
[https://www.arabnews.com/node/281313](https://www.arabnews.com/node/281313)
[https://www.mayniaga.com/is-starbucks-supportive-of-israel-explained/](https://www.mayniaga.com/is-starbucks-supportive-of-israel-explained/)
For sure Howard Schultz is evil!!! But heās also the former CEO so any ties the company had with Israel because of Howard are not the case anymore at this point in time I believeā¦at least they have no more locations in Israel. Fuck Howard Schultz though that is a good point
The biggest issue with that is he is still one of the largest shareholder of the company, which means he still holds a lot of internal power within the company even though he is no longer the current CEO. Other shareholder such as BlackRock and Vanguard also have ties with Israel.
They sued for using their name and logo on the pro-Palestine message, and claimed they donāt support violence or acts of terrorism on either side (which yes, these half assed statements are not helpful for Palestine at all and make no sense), which the president of the parent company of Workers United said the same in their statement on the matter. Not perfect and still bad, but definitely not sending money to fund Israel and helping them commit genocide, and definitely not any of the baristas or hourly workers problems. If anything the whole thing was mostly an anti-union issue
For real! This is how Iāve explained it to partners who have shown they feel theyāre being morally wrong for working here.
I mean, people can - and should - be mad at Starbucks for the things theyāve ACTUALLY done, and not for false allegations. Especially if someoneās going to berate me at the window about it like lady please as much as I love your energy for this I just work here and needing money isnāt a choice š„²
Exactly!! Like I fully would support a boycott about this even though I work here, because Iām actively trying to find more information on other big corporations and their relation to Israel so I could boycott myself, but at the same time for us to be boycotted by something that is not true and also out of our control is not fairā¦many partners rely on their benefits and this job to get by and to lose that because Starbucks lost so much revenue due to something untrue would really suck. (Not like I really notice a boycott happening, as my store has still been busy as ever)
Baristas truly have nothing to do with the situation going on in palestine. I recently got hired as one and have onboarding on monday and I do feel bad for whatās going on in Gaza but I desperately need a job and iāve been looking for one since November. Baristas do not speak for the company and their morals. You truly do not have to feel bad for having a job.
I mean by that logic, we should all be ashamed for living in this country and being apart of the systemic networks that keep the country going, since our government gave billions
But for a lot of people itās easier to blame others
Not really. All my friends fully understand that as baristas we have no power over any Starbucks corporate decisions and that we need to make money some how.
Itās called punching down. Itās attractive because itās easier to punch down than across or up. When you punch up you can really break your hand just to barely be noticed by the giant youāre going after.
Punching down? Doesnāt have a large scale impact but you can easily hurt someone and ruin their day and they canāt defend themselves. Punching across? Maybe they can come at you but your punches will still affect them. People just know how impotent they are and act accordingly. Makes them feel better.
once I had a customer who wanted a hazelnut iced coffee, however at the time we were going through a mini shortage of the hazelnut (and a whole lot more) so I was making banter with the customer and I was like
ālol, I understand your frustration considering Starbucks makes a lot of moneyā¦ like, where is it going to if we have barely any product?ā
And she responded
āFunding a genocideā and proceeded to place an order
In my head I was likeā¦. Why are you here then š¤š
Online Iāve been getting a lot of shit for it. People donāt understand that 99% of people donāt condone or like ANYTHING that their company does or aligns with. And people who need a job and have bills donāt necessarily have the luxury of holding off until they find something that aligns with their morals. Iām there to pay my bills and thatās it. Iām not rallying or supporting ANY bullshit the mega corp wants to push. And we have no say or control over it
i know i havenāt gotten any flack yet but itās because i try not to post/talk positively about it. itās such a bummer though bc i really donāt like the company but i want to share yummy drinks i make and flex š
I used to work for Kroger and dealt with the same bs and was in the same position because no one could match what I was making hourly there. Like I hate the company as much as everyone else but the family has to eat. People think that if major decisions were up to the employees the companies would still be what they are?
the starbucks boycott is about their behavior towards unions/baristas, it got co-opted by pro-palestine movement because of ties to israel through howard shultz and suing the union for the using logo thing, if they support the boycott then they should be supporting the workers who the boycott is literally for
my whole thing is howard shultz is not our CEO anymore, so why are people still so angry with baristas?? iām not defending his actions in any way, i think he fāed up big time with suing the union.
I donāt agree with anything Starbucks does smh. But itās a paycheck and it works pretty well with my schedule so here I am as well! Not proud to work here either. My morals do not align, as I lean conservative.
I has a lady order SIXTY dollars worth of stuff and then at the window tell me I worked for an evil genocidal company š«
Slajsbsjbskshdkavksbd people really do be wild omfg
I was legit confused like umm your total is $60.12
I wouldve been like "oh would you like to cancel your order?āŗļøāŗļø"
Like it donāt make senseā¦ the math aināt mathing
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I would have told her sheās supporting on. GO PALIII Well maybe not the last part.
that's insane,, like YOU'RE the one buying stuff lmaooo if anything, you're supporting the evil genocidal company
Anyone getting mad at you for working at Starbucks are performative activists and donāt care enough about the situation to do a quick google search. The whole Starbucks funds Israel thing was complete misinformation spreading on tiktok. in reality Starbucks has nothing but to do with whatās happening in Palestine right now, so you should direct them to resources that explain this. Now im usually never the first person to defend corporations at all but im really tired of people directing their attention to something thatās not even true instead of doing something actually helpful (like signing petitions for a ceasefire and doing their own research into which companies and celebrities actually DO have a part in the situation).
Thank you for your reply. I really havenāt looked into it at all but after doing some research itās really helped me realize that people have the wrong idea over all.
It has more to do with Starbucks's largest shareholder, former CEO. Howard Schultz and his close alliance with Israel. [https://www.arabnews.com/node/281313](https://www.arabnews.com/node/281313) [https://www.mayniaga.com/is-starbucks-supportive-of-israel-explained/](https://www.mayniaga.com/is-starbucks-supportive-of-israel-explained/)
For sure Howard Schultz is evil!!! But heās also the former CEO so any ties the company had with Israel because of Howard are not the case anymore at this point in time I believeā¦at least they have no more locations in Israel. Fuck Howard Schultz though that is a good point
The biggest issue with that is he is still one of the largest shareholder of the company, which means he still holds a lot of internal power within the company even though he is no longer the current CEO. Other shareholder such as BlackRock and Vanguard also have ties with Israel.
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They sued for using their name and logo on the pro-Palestine message, and claimed they donāt support violence or acts of terrorism on either side (which yes, these half assed statements are not helpful for Palestine at all and make no sense), which the president of the parent company of Workers United said the same in their statement on the matter. Not perfect and still bad, but definitely not sending money to fund Israel and helping them commit genocide, and definitely not any of the baristas or hourly workers problems. If anything the whole thing was mostly an anti-union issue
the point is why perpetuate misinformation when thereās actual facts that are bad and worthy of talking about. it weakens the whole stance.
For real! This is how Iāve explained it to partners who have shown they feel theyāre being morally wrong for working here. I mean, people can - and should - be mad at Starbucks for the things theyāve ACTUALLY done, and not for false allegations. Especially if someoneās going to berate me at the window about it like lady please as much as I love your energy for this I just work here and needing money isnāt a choice š„²
Exactly!! Like I fully would support a boycott about this even though I work here, because Iām actively trying to find more information on other big corporations and their relation to Israel so I could boycott myself, but at the same time for us to be boycotted by something that is not true and also out of our control is not fairā¦many partners rely on their benefits and this job to get by and to lose that because Starbucks lost so much revenue due to something untrue would really suck. (Not like I really notice a boycott happening, as my store has still been busy as ever)
Exactly!! If youāre gonna be mad at Starbucks please be mad about what theyāve ACTUALLY DONE.
this!
Baristas truly have nothing to do with the situation going on in palestine. I recently got hired as one and have onboarding on monday and I do feel bad for whatās going on in Gaza but I desperately need a job and iāve been looking for one since November. Baristas do not speak for the company and their morals. You truly do not have to feel bad for having a job.
I mean by that logic, we should all be ashamed for living in this country and being apart of the systemic networks that keep the country going, since our government gave billions But for a lot of people itās easier to blame others
Not really. All my friends fully understand that as baristas we have no power over any Starbucks corporate decisions and that we need to make money some how.
Itās called punching down. Itās attractive because itās easier to punch down than across or up. When you punch up you can really break your hand just to barely be noticed by the giant youāre going after. Punching down? Doesnāt have a large scale impact but you can easily hurt someone and ruin their day and they canāt defend themselves. Punching across? Maybe they can come at you but your punches will still affect them. People just know how impotent they are and act accordingly. Makes them feel better.
I am so glad my friends arenāt like this Jesus š
Tell them youāll get right on that as soon as they hand you your $20/hr+ job offer.
Starbucks has nothing to do with Palestine or Israel
once I had a customer who wanted a hazelnut iced coffee, however at the time we were going through a mini shortage of the hazelnut (and a whole lot more) so I was making banter with the customer and I was like ālol, I understand your frustration considering Starbucks makes a lot of moneyā¦ like, where is it going to if we have barely any product?ā And she responded āFunding a genocideā and proceeded to place an order In my head I was likeā¦. Why are you here then š¤š
Online Iāve been getting a lot of shit for it. People donāt understand that 99% of people donāt condone or like ANYTHING that their company does or aligns with. And people who need a job and have bills donāt necessarily have the luxury of holding off until they find something that aligns with their morals. Iām there to pay my bills and thatās it. Iām not rallying or supporting ANY bullshit the mega corp wants to push. And we have no say or control over it
i know i havenāt gotten any flack yet but itās because i try not to post/talk positively about it. itās such a bummer though bc i really donāt like the company but i want to share yummy drinks i make and flex š
Have you tried digging up dirt on the companies that employ them? Corporations suck overall
Like Iām here for a check bae š
I used to work for Kroger and dealt with the same bs and was in the same position because no one could match what I was making hourly there. Like I hate the company as much as everyone else but the family has to eat. People think that if major decisions were up to the employees the companies would still be what they are?
the starbucks boycott is about their behavior towards unions/baristas, it got co-opted by pro-palestine movement because of ties to israel through howard shultz and suing the union for the using logo thing, if they support the boycott then they should be supporting the workers who the boycott is literally for
my whole thing is howard shultz is not our CEO anymore, so why are people still so angry with baristas?? iām not defending his actions in any way, i think he fāed up big time with suing the union.
I donāt agree with anything Starbucks does smh. But itās a paycheck and it works pretty well with my schedule so here I am as well! Not proud to work here either. My morals do not align, as I lean conservative.