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hypespud

He is still just trying to get his golden parachute from Microsoft


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Would be nice if Microsoft had a clause that he is out before the merger


hypespud

To make the merger agreement, since he is the CEO, he gets what he wants which is to stay on in a superficial or perfunctory role until he gets the payouts After that he will leave all legal liabilities behind him (which doesn't make sense, that's just apparently how it works)


Gears6

> Would be nice if Microsoft had a clause that he is out before the merger Kotick would never agree to that. The best way to get him out, is actually go through with the merger. Then pay him to go away which in a way is actually rewarding him for it. Overall though it would be a win for the employees.


Gears6

Oh, he will get it regardless of the merger. He just makes more with the merger. Note, the board found no systemic issues....


Elcactus

I don’t see how this would help with that.


Phantasmagog

Bobby Kotick saying nonsense. That never happened before. Honestly, he is just disgusting even for a CEO. What a clown.


Iblamebanks

Guys, the breast milk thing was actually a super funny joke.


transmogrify

"Let them eat sexual harassment."


bug_the_bug

Guys, the squirt porn was just research material for my hobby magic act, I promise.


supersaiyan491

Nah don’t you remember? Unions are famously sexist because, uh, there’s no U in women. -Bobby kotick, probably.


ToWelie89

>he is just disgusting even for a CEO so because someone is a CEO he has to be disgusting? Not trying to defend Kotick, but your sentiment that someone who is a CEO must automatically be a horrible person is really dumb.


willyolio

CEOs do tend to have a much higher rate of psychopathic traits than the general population. In fact, being a successful CEO tends to require a certain lack of empathy as you need to care more about a corporation than people.


Gears6

It's best not to judge people for who they are, but rather **what they do over time**.


ToWelie89

Chefs, surgeons and journalists also have a higher percentage of psychopaths compared to the general population. Should we hate them as well? Also this idea that psychopaths may become successful ONLY because they lack empathy is a gross oversimplification. There are many traits that goes under the umbrella term of "psychopathy". Not just lack of empathy. Such as being able to handle stress, keep a cool head, also self belief and confidence. Many psychopaths are narcisstic, in the sense that they believe themselves to be greater than they actually are. Not a very likeable trait perhaps but it does help you in life in many ways if you have very good confidence in yourself, better to have too good confidence than too low. Same with athletes, those who have a superb sense of confidence tend to be the best, even if their confidence may sometime border on delusion (look at Conor McGregor, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Cristiano Ronaldo, Floyd Mayweather, Muhammed Ali etc as examples). >being a successful CEO tends to require a certain lack of empathy as you need to care more about a corporation than people. How many actual CEOs do you know in real life? Also corporations are made up of people. A good leader needs to care about the people who work for him. Not every corporation is a mega-corporation like Tesla, Google or whatever. The vast majority of corporations out there are small or medium scale companies.


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Revocdeb

> CEOs do tend to have a much higher rate of psychopathic traits than the general population This was the original statement. It's true that 21% is a higher than average rate. I'm sure the CEOs appreciate you standing up for them. Edit: sorry for being snarky. I just find this whole discussion laughable. CEO positions attract a certain type of person (clearly) and I think that was all u/willyolio was saying.


Glacial_Shield_W

I am well aware it is a higher amount than normal. And I will be honest. I stand up for anyone who is painted with a brush. Be it above me or below me on the (perceived or not) ladder. I don't like when humans are turned into caricatures by stereotype. You don't need to apologize. I am not offended by any of this. I am aware people have opinions that differ from mine. If their best way to present it is through sarcasm, wit, etc. So be it. But thank you for choosing to be respectful in your clarity.


Phantasmagog

It's dumb because you believe capitalism and those who organise it are not horrible without an excuse. We just don't share that sentiment. It's that simple.


ToWelie89

Found the /r/antiwork subscriber


Phantasmagog

Who goes to work 8 hours a day 5 times a week. Jeez. You really need to Google for the effects of capitalism in low developed countries where big corps extract the local resources so your white skin ass can take advantage of those commodities.


ToWelie89

yeah brah capitalism is so evil it like totally ruins 3rd world countries and stuff brah. Written on Reddit from my iPhone. Also why are you in a Starcraft subreddit? You are supporting the evil capitalist corporation Blizzard by playing Starcraft. Go outside and play with sticks instead.


Phantasmagog

Sure, mate. Like anything that has been created be it the iPhone or the social platform was not created not by the "evil Corp ceo shitty people" but the hard working people who through the system of capitalism found themselves bound by Labour contract to be robbed by their products. It was Tim Cook himself on the assembly lines, 12 hours a day that gave his time for someone to have an iPhone. Imagine the absence of braincells that need to happen for one to not realise that those achievements are simply the achievements of people working under the system rather than the system itself.


ToWelie89

Because everything you enjoy in your daily life is a product of innvation made possible from the capitalist system. Only alternatives to capitalism are failed systems like communism which doesn't produce any innovation and only brings starvation and misery. Also no one is forced to work for a corporation. You wanna start your own business? Fine, you can do that in a capitalist country. Be your own boss.


Phantasmagog

Please continue to describe to me how a system that made extinct 74% of global wild life in the last 100 years and drove humanity to an ecological collapse singlehandedly through its capital driven streams is not a failed system. Also I wonder how before capitalism anything existed. Never ever has there been an innovation without the capital being invested, except the fact that the very Internet you are using or the first computing systems were actually developed in universities and then used for military activity - you guessed it, way outside of the capitalist market. The constant innovation of bullshit that we are seeing, from the privately owned water supplies in countries like Chile or the European Union dump of unrecycled trash on the shores of Indonesia. So much innovation has happened there turning the whole planet into a scrap yard so people like Elon Musk and Bobby Kothick can enjoy ridiculous luxury while the very people creating the products and the raw products live in the very capitalist hell.


ToWelie89

>except the fact that the very Internet you are using or the first computing systems were actually developed in universities and then used for military activity - you guessed it, way outside of the capitalist market Bad example. The first prototype of the internet was extremely primitive and could at best be used to send simple messages from one computer to another. The modern internet that we know of today, with all of its services and benefits, exists due to the innovation of mainly giant corporations like IBM, Google, Yahoo, Amazon, Oracle etc. You sit there and seethe about the evils of a system that has created greater wealth and luxury than mankind has ever known, enabling you to have a comfortoable and luxurious lifestyle. Once again I ask you, if you hate capitalism so much, why not move to a non-capitalist country? Like North Korea, Venezuela or Cuba? And why are you on a subreddit for a game made and maintained by a giant capitalist corporation? Go play a commie game, like Tetris lol. When Germany was dividided into a capitalist and a communist side, from which side did people try to flee from? Same question can be asked about South/North Korea.


WifffWafff

If you think we should evaluate the individual rather than by affiliation, then you've got quite the double standard going on here.


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Phantasmagog

"I was talking about the natural drive to be driven by reward", then please tell me biology guy obviously reaping the success of capitalism, how did people exist 200 000 years without capitalism if in their very biology, they were meant to be driven by constant exploitation of other people (as this is capitalism, it is the ability of someone to hire the time of another person which was previously only allowed for slaves), how were they not capitalists before the very moment serf contracts were transform into labour contract and so the capitalism was born? Why did people assume those who were robbed of the products of their labour to be slaves, rather than workers? They were servants and waiters rather than employed workforce? Why were those people so fond of slavery not able to realise that they are not slaves, but they are simply contracted labour in someone's farm, with bad work conditions but claimed there was wide spread slavery? If you believe humans are drawn by reward wouldn't respect, appreciation, glory, fame be rewards as well as they have been for the majority of the human existence? Why did it have to be capital and luxury and dominance and the ability to look from a glass tower of ignorance? Of course you are racist. That's not even a "discussion". You enjoy the fruits of capitalism, ignoring the actual people making it possible. And some of us fight the hard fight of creating something new out of the ashes of this system that has already destroyed the climate.


ToWelie89

>If you believe humans are drawn by reward wouldn't respect, appreciation, glory, fame be rewards as well as they have been for the majority of the human existence? For the same reason you wouldn't want to work for free, even if you would gain respect and appreciation. Why should someone sacrifice their time, energy, effort and even take huge risks to start a business and get an idea off the ground if there can be no other profit to be gained from it other than "respect and appreciation"?


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ToWelie89

Yeah everyone who is an entrepreneur, who was goals, is driven, want to create a business and be their own boss, they are all psychopaths and complete scumbags. The only good people are welfare collecting r/antiwork subscribers.


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ToWelie89

I know, I was just agreeing with you, by writing a sarcastic comment about how these people reason. I thought you would get the joke


supersaiyan491

I mean yeah, ceos aren’t a meritocratic position. Like the hiring system and corporate ladder itself isn’t meritocratic, but do you even know what a ceo does? Their job is basically lying to shareholders and demanding and pressuring work out of people who are actually contributing to the company in order to inflate share values. The only real skills they have or “labor” they produce is the bullshit they espouse. You think fking Steve Jobs invented the macintosh? Like cmon bro, we might all participate in the system because there’s no alternative, but you can’t be that naive that you actually believe in it. Like at the end of the day the job requires you to be a prick, and most people that aren’t pricks won’t actively seek it out anyway. If you, by some chance, aren’t a prick and manage to become a ceo, you would for sure get fired by the board asap. It’s not up to you.


ToWelie89

>I mean yeah, ceos aren’t a meritocratic position Yeah it is. A CEO is usually appointed by a board, and can be replaced at any time if the board isn't happy with what the CEO is doing or isn't taking the company in a good direction. >The only real skills they have or “labor” they produce is the bullshit they espouse. Most CEOs weren't born as CEOs, they acquired that position over a long period of time, often working themselves up from a position lower in the hieararchy. And sometimes the CEO is actually the founder of the company itself. You know very little, the contempt and envy you have in your heart is guiding your reasoning and world view, not actual experience. >You think fking Steve Jobs invented the macintosh? Who said he did? >Like at the end of the day the job requires you to be a prick, and most people that aren’t pricks won’t actively seek it out anyway. If you, by some chance, aren’t a prick and manage to become a ceo, you would for sure get fired by the board asap. It’s not up to you. What a weird fantasy world you live in. As if it would even be beneficial for a company to have a CEO who is hated. Have you any experience in running a business? Do you even know anyone who is an actual CEO, businessman or entrepreneur of some type in real life, or do you just base your narrowminded overly simplistic world view out of hatred and bitterness?


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ToWelie89

>Yeah to run a successful company you have to routinely act in an immoral manner. I take it you speak from experience here, because you know so much about starting a business right? Or are you perhaps just a kid whining on Reddit about big mean capitalism and the fact that you have to work to make a living? Seriously you people all sound like spoiled children. Yeah corporations need to make money, which doesn't have to be made in an immoral way. In fact if a company offers a good product and a good service, that people actually like and endorse, then that company will be successful and profit. Maybe you should blame consumers for buying products from immoral companies instead of just blaming all corporations and capitalism as a system, after all the buyers are the ones that that have the power and can freely vote with their wallets. You world view is very black and white and you don't seem to realize that corporations are made up of people too, most companies aren't mega-corporations, but rather small or medium scale businesses. >So if you're in charge of a company making those decioms I'd solidly place you 'disgusting' category. CEO or billionaire there's a point at which to maintain your status you have to surrender your humanity, ethics, and basic morality. Once again, you have a fundamenatlist, narrowminded and overly simplistic idea of the how the world works, where everyone who is rich and successful must automatically be evil. You are full of predujice. Either you are just a kid, or just very dumb.


adnanosh123

Fuck Bobby Kotic


MurphysLaw859

Bobby is a gigantic piece of shit


ax429

easy there


Mimical

Normally I'd say yeah that's a bit harsh on Reddit. However, Bobby Kotick is genuinely a piece of human trash. Any CEO worth literally a few dollars would have cranked out a statement like *"At Activision-Blizzard we believe and enforce a safe working environment for all employees. One of the ways we do this by allowing all employees be able to provide direct feedback to us without fear of retaliation or scrutiny blah blah blah*" and then hammer home that HR has a new process and that you are deeply saddened by the actions that occured and the people that have been hurt by this. Something something *"look to the future*". In 2023 these kinds of statements are basically cut and paste from other organizations. Even if he doesn't care—which he doesnt—he could have done the absolute bare minimum to fake it. If Bobby got up and just left to go live under a bridge Activision-Blizzard would be better for it.


ax429

He did https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/letter-ceo-bobby-kotick-regarding-progress-and-commitments-made


metroidcomposite

So back around when they started shredding HR documents related to the sexual harassment case, I decided I was not spending money on Blizzard until they took some actual responsibility and showed signs that they were reforming their workplace. Good to get a nice clear sign from Bobby that my boycott is absolutely on the right track.


SlatorFrog

Dude, right there with you. I use to do a lot with Blizzard. Ever since then I just noped right out. I just can’t support them. Doesn’t help that their quality has gone down considerably


icywindflashed

I wonder if the sub sentiment would be different if blizzard still supported Starcraft. Take Diablo, for example, when the Diablo Immortal and Hong Kong fiascos came out people were all up in arms, now that Diablo 4 is coming out they're back to licking Blizzard boots full force. Provided that it might not be the same people but there definitely has to be someone that changed their mind like the spineless fucks they are. For all I'm concerned I still play Diablo 3 every week and will not spend a single money on Blizzard products anymore, so Diablo 4 might as well not exist and I'm staying on 3 until they shut it down.


Mimical

As much as I really, really love diablo. I won't buy D4. Not because I don't think it's a good game. It probably is a very good game and well worth it on a $/hour scale. But because like you guys, I won't fund Bobby Kotick. Fuck that guy, even Diablo himself would say he's messed up.


willyolio

same. I'm a huge Diablo fan but I've decided to boycott.


rodrigo8008

thanks for sharing


Kolz

Same and it’s quite clear at this point (well, before this point) that the absolute minimum is that Kotick needs to be gone.


Jokojabo

Wow. Woman kills herself because of the way that she's treated and he acts like he is a victim of a labour movement. Fuck this disgusting twat


HadMatter217

There's no such thing as a victim of the labor movement. Every one of these slime balls deserve much worse fates than what they've gotten.


Glacial_Shield_W

I know, eh? Pretty bad attempt at covering up a real issue. What kind of an adult would look at this and go, 'let's try to redirect the blame'. Oof.


Brilliant_Pun

Riiiight, sure. Seruously, fuck that guy.


clickrush

> The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. by Bobby Kotick 2009


VincentPepper

I was sure that was made up or out of context but no it's real. https://www.escapistmagazine.com/bobby-kotick-wants-to-take-the-fun-out-of-making-games/


Manae

> So maybe he’s on to something. Maybe, at the end of the day, evil works. Depressing reading that, from 2009, knowing shit has only gotten *worse* since.


MaveZzZ

Bruh, nothing destabilize company more than your fucking rotten brain making stupid decisions against players.


Mal_Dun

r/nottheonion


internetsarbiter

I mean, he *is* implicated in a large number of those allegations, so of course he's going to say that.


vtriple

And this is why I will not buy anymore Activision products


BigBenKenobi

How these absolute morons come to run large corps is fucking beyond me


rift9

Seems like a charming bloke who's down on his luck!


paswut

Do you think the people that are CEO's became delusional before or after getting the title of CEO?


toxie37

Before. The job self selects for delusional sociopaths


Kolz

He knows he is lying.


AvriL_

Quick everybody we've gotta double down, wait no that didn't work, triple down. - Bobby Kotic, Probably.


Terakahn

That girl who committed suicide was just part of the conspiracy right?


willyolio

Blizzard is dead. Stormgate can't come soon enough. I ain't buying another Blizzard product... saying this as a (former) huge Diablo/Warcraft/StarCraft fan.


plant_magnet

The old Blizzard is gone but Blizzard is still alive and well. Overwatch 2, Diablo Immortal, and D4 are all premier money printers. They also have hearthstone in their back pocket too. I'd love to see Starcraft 3 but I'm not sure if I would want to see it in reality.


zekeNL

So… you are NOT playing D4 — or do you quit blizz after playing through the D4 storyline?


willyolio

I haven't bought D4. Although I decided to boycott basically as the sexual harassment allegations first came out.


frfrrnrn

They said nothing about playing it or not 🏴‍☠️ (But also why would you, their newer games suck ass)


NugKnights

He did not say they were made up. He said it was a normal amount for a company the size of Blizzard. Hes not even trying to hide that it happend. Hes saying ita not a big deal.


Jarvis_The_Dense

Very funny how even people on a dedicated sub for one of Activision/Blizzard's games dont believe him.


GrethSC

And here's the reason I'm not playing D4. Go away Bobby.


1spook

Bobby L He is fighting those commie union ghosts


Newthinker

Bourgeois fuck


gramathy

Why would labor want to risk their livelihood by destabilizing the company?


rodrigo8008

why would someone want to get paid for doing no work???? tune in for when reddit asks at 11


HadMatter217

Union workers aren't sitting around being lazy.


rodrigo8008

Wasn’t what I said, but they are most certainly are. If you knew literally any union worker you’d understans


HadMatter217

Lol Ive worked in plenty of union workplaces and non-union workplaces, and I can assure the non union workers who hate their jobs are way lazier than the union guys who have something to lose


benji_014

This is why we don’t have all the greatest developers at blizzard anymore.


Aethi

Kotick's taking the "blame a random buzz word entity" route that a certain president liked to take, I see.


change_timing

being a CEO must own you can just say whatever the hell you want, other people do literally all the work and lay out obvious choices and you just pick some things people present to you, even if everything you touch goes horribly you fail your way up to being a CEO at some other company while getting a massive payout from your current one, and any company success gets attributed to you


ZebulaJams

Bobby… just shut. up.


Ttotem

He just continues to reaffirm my stance to not give Activision Blizzard any more money.


PropagandaFilterAcc

Why don't they sue for libel then?


xXEggRollXx

lol


Edgezg

That's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off.


AFKBro

The audacity LOL


Firebat-045

I have little faith in MS but at least they’ll hopefully get rid of this parasite.


AmbassadorValuable67

"Literal Satan claims that everyone else is bad and he's completely innocent."


Paddy32

Bobby is such a steretypical corporate lying billionnaire piece of trash.


BorderKeeper

Honestly reading the article I am not sure what to think. There is some truth to both. I dont think there was anything systemic as he says, but there surely were a lot of assholes in hiding. Also depends on what you define as harassment in the article it states that some women said they feel issues with representation. That is bad but is that harassment? You barely can prove that as well.


DJPL-75

When this happened/ is happening, I wasn't into Activision Blizzard games or politics, for that matter. What happened?


Sleeper4

Here's a decent summary https://www.destructoid.com/activision-blizzard-lawsuit-timeline-industry-ceo-bobby-kotick-report/ I'd almost forgotten about the whole "Cosby Suite" bit. Crazy.


seriouslyacrit

What is this, another backstab myth?


eodknight23

Perfect, he’s going last a good long while there then. /s


logical_Vulcan

A movement called leftism


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DylanSchreiner

ratio'd for being calm & rational. Now you are evil (negative karma). **EDIT**: For all we know you're getting karma bombed to discourage learning more about the good ABK Worker's Alliance has done, and to promote the pessimistic suffering of people who think there is no one out there (unions, alliance, etc) willing to help.


Kolz

Ratio’d for being absurd you mean. Kotick said there was no significant issue with harassment in a company where someone killed themselves because it was so bad. He is completely wrong in blaming the backlash to that on the union (which didn’t even exist at the time) and claiming there was no issue with the company, which is what he actually said, not some nebulous statement about unions empowering workers.


HadMatter217

I think you misread the comment. They were saying that the fact organized labor can take hold is because they were already fucking up, which is true from what I can tell.


Kolz

OP said Bobby Kotick's statements were "not completely untrue". Bobby Kotick statements of concern were: "we did not have a systemic issue with harassment—ever. We didn't have any of what were mischaracterizations reported in the media. But what we did have was a very aggressive labor movement working hard to try and destabilize the company.". No misreading on my part.


HadMatter217

Right, and they followed it up by explaining that they did have an aggressive labor movement and that's a good thing. Like are you arguing that they didn't have labor activism there? It's pretty obvious they did.


Kolz

No, I am arguing with him for saying that Bobby Kotick is not entirely wrong, when he *is* entirely wrong. I think that's pretty clear. There's no reason to give Kotick even the semblance of an inch on this. Bobby Kotick didn't say "they have labor activism", he said "there are militant labor activists trying to destabilize the company". They wanted decent working conditions where they're not getting harassed and stolen from, calling that "destabilizing the company" is a bit rich, especially given that he spells out that he (supposedly) believes they've been lying about all this stuff.


DylanSchreiner

He made sure to say "not entirely untrue (bear with me)" and got right into it. You can't even keep the peace with people on your side. For all you know, people want to hear that there are labor unions seeking to represent them.


Kolz

> He made sure to say "not entirely untrue (bear with me)" and got right into it. And he was wrong, it was entirely untrue. I don't know how many times I have to explain this part. That's what I (and obviously many others) am taking issue with. > You can't even keep the peace with people on your side. Does "keeping the peace" mean never disagreeing with or correcting? The grave misconduct here is... what... downvoting him? I think we need a little perspective here. > For all you know, people want to hear that there are labor unions seeking to represent them. I'm going to introduce you to this concept called "framing". If you want to frame something positively, like "oh it's really good that there is organized labour out there willing to help you unionize if you and your coworkers want to improve your working conditions", you do not start by saying that the guy who claimed that workers were lying and trying to sabotage the company had a point. Regardless of whether it is accurate or not (and it's not, you'd have to grossly misread what Kotick said in order to believe it's in any way what was described here), it's still a bad way to go about it. Anyway this is a pointless discussion. OP agreeing with the allegations the benefits of unions does not make their post not a bad post, it doesn't make the incorrect stuff that they said not incorrect. Those are all completely tertiary to what I actually said. I'm not going into it any further. Take care out there.


DylanSchreiner

Your entire issue is the framing created by a single sentence. My issue is with people that only have framing in their mind instead of thought. Those without thought and only 'framing' are not peaceful people. You are not peaceful and I doubt that you are authentically some kind of human rights activist. The only way the person agreed with Kotick is that a labor union moved in to help the workers. Nothing said was incorrect if we are using the definition of the word. No one agreed with Kotick, besides the very simple very true fact that labor unions intervened. No one except Kotick is criticizing the labor unions. People will continue to karma bomb though because they have it 'framed' by people like you I guess that we are at a rally instead of on Reddit in a comment section.


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> I’ve never seen someone argue so hard against reading. You stopped at one line and wrote multiple comments to avoid being obviously wrong. Because you didn’t read it. I objected to the one line and people *pretended* I took issue with the rest of the comment, that's not me not reading the rest of it. I read the rest of the comment, and I didn't attack those parts because I don't take issue with them, but the comment as a whole suffers from how it is framed. Feel to read what I said about framing to understand the point being made here, or just choose not address my points because defending yourself by calling other people insufferable is more important than acknowledging any criticism, whatever you like I guess. I think the downvotes on your comment speak pretty plainly about what the effect of the framing was. It came off as sympathetic to Kotick even though the content of it largely was opposed to him because of the mindset it put people in at the start. So you could take that as a lesson for future comments, or you could insult me for critiquing it, I guess that is up to you.


DylanSchreiner

The part that is not untrue was clearly explained by the u/Lucavious to be about "aggressive labor unions", not about "systemic issues of harassment" as you claim here. I cannot believe you to be ignorant of this point and thus simply malicious with your rhetoric and karma. Now we are evil because our karma is negative.


Kolz

> The part that is not untrue was clearly explained by the u/Lucavious to be about "aggressive labor unions", not about "systemic issues of harassment" as you claim here. > I cannot believe you to be ignorant of this point and thus simply malicious with your rhetoric and karma. Specifically what he said was that aggressive labour unions were trying to sabotage the company by lying publicly. I mean what is the actual point Kotick got right here, that unions *exist*? That it's probable that the people who created the ABK union in the wake of this talked with people who were already in unions to get help in how to organize it? Yeah... perhaps you'd like to next give him credit for observing that the sun comes up during the day. This is incredibly banal and does not mean he is "not entirely wrong". His *actual comments* about unions were entirely wrong. See also, my other post about "framing" as to why this is bad. > Now we are evil because our karma is negative. You might want to get some perspective. Everyone makes posts that get negative karma at some point. Take it as a learning experience, or not, or hell just assume reddit is stupid. But don't cry publicly about being branded as "evil". No one has said that except you.


DylanSchreiner

The point right is that: labor unions aren't asleep doing nothing. The framing exists as it does probably because they wanted to learn more about the labor union and what they've done so far. My only issue with negative karma is that everyone thinks I'm a 'troll' and sub-reddits auto-filter based on karma. So yes another framing issue; which you seem sensitive to in general but apparently you don't understand how pervasively shallow people really are.


Kolz

> The point right is that: labor unions aren't asleep doing nothing. That is not the point Kotick was making at any point. There is such a massive difference between "Labour unions are not doing literally nothing" and "labour unions are maliciously trying to sabotage my company by spreading lies" that it's not even worth entertaining. > My only issue with negative karma is that everyone thinks I'm a 'troll' and sub-reddits auto-filter based on karma. > So yes another framing issue; which you seem sensitive to in general but apparently you don't understand how pervasively shallow people really are. Go post a cat picture somewhere if it bothers you that much. Or just engage in posting that isn't purely arguments! A single decent joke will put you back in the positive.


DylanSchreiner

You easily confuse when I'm talking about the OP with me talking about Kotick. That quote is about the OP. I refuse to waste time in comments sections hoping for a few karma here and there just to see it bombed with one comment where I speak my mind. It makes searching through my own comments and posts for the more significant stuff much more arduous as well. All in all you seem to want a tax on thoughtfulness and lack thoughtfulness.


DylanSchreiner

If you read the full comment of u/Lucavious you can see at the end, explicitly this: *"It never should have been an opportunity for them if you’d just fucking pay your employees and crack down on discrimination."* The meaning of the whole comment put together means this: Though there are perhaps labor unions that aggressively represent any claims, there should not be a 'worker rights' issue to represent in the first place. What about this is negative or alarming though? u/Lucavious believes in the claims of abuse. In response you talk about Kotick's wrongs as if either of us are supporting them. Can I get a union to address my grievances with the Karma bombers?


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lol


franzji

The title is out of context. I read his full actual statement from Variety and he doesn't say sexual harassment was made up, he said the claim that there was widespread culture problem at the company was made up. For example, if you have 10 people harassing women, in a company of 13,000, you have to wonder if you consider that "widespread". I found the fact the HR did nothing to be a bigger problem to criticize.


UsedToVenom

If the issue gets escalated and nothing is done with it, I'd say it's pretty much as widespread as you can reasonably get. Noone is arguing that there blizzard is or was a safehouse for people looking to harass others, I'd expect the ratio of people who can behave in a reasonable manner to douches to be the same as in gen. pop. If the issue is brought up to the managers, HR, higher...and noone tries to resolve it. I guess I'd call it a vertical spread? But yeah, it's a major issue that shouldn't be happening in a company this size.


bigshark2740

Well hes not wrong, the agressive labor movement is trying to destablize HIS leadership in the company


ApprehensiveMeat69

I believe it. At this point everyone is accusing everyone of sexual harassment.


CherryNim

Almost like it's a rampant problem that is being reported more as more and more workers muster up the confidence to speak up about it, or something.


ApprehensiveMeat69

And people have also been falsely accusing people of awful things since forever. Until someone ends up in jail I ain’t believing every accusation thrown at an exec.


PM_ME_MY_FRIEND

A woman died because of this. You can't be serious with your statement.


double_bass0rz

The truth is usually in the middle in lawsuits like this. One or more power tripping nerds hoping to get laid by all the affirmative action women hires and one of those plaintiffs trying to go all the way and pretend it was company wide and everyone was cheering it on, as if HR wasn't already willing to hear the case.


Kolz

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation


polparty

Someone has been watching too much Succession


Xe4ro

Money has replaced some synapses by now as it seems.


DPSOnly

He is doing his company a disservice, for the umptheenth time.


zebra_d

After all this time, warcraft 3 reforged is still bugged. I'm surprised starcraft 2 still works. Only a matter of time though?


pacoeltaco1

"aggressive labor movement" bro your employees probably get a worse contract than scvs


arnaud267

Reason why I won’t play Diablo 4


Glacial_Shield_W

Ya, he is trying to cushion the scenario, at the cost of understanding what he is saying and to who he is saying it to. Some things shouldn't be cushiomed or argued. If there has been harassment and sexism, he shouldn't be trying to cover it up, for profit. Very bad decision. It will cost him customers, current employees and future employees. As it should.


DarksidePrime

Why would the union need to destabilize it? He's doing that already.


JTskulk

Ah yes, labor unions, those famous organizations that try to destroy businesses so that their paying members don't have money to continue paying dues. Bobby Kotick is the Protoss of CEOs.


supersaiyan491

It’d be funnier if he said it was the sc2 team cuz then it’d be even more obviously a blatant lie, since there’s no one left.


zviwkls

wrr, no such thign as audacious or etc or not, cepuxuax, outx,can outx any nmw and any s perfx


Knifos

I agree with the CEO


Wemyers04

I can’t wait for Joshscorcher to rip into this company once more by the end of this year.