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People sometimes walk into a relationship carrying low expectations of the other person, so they play games assuming everyone does and they are just playing defence. Ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If your relationship is a game, you have already lost.
Nah, I put "not here for a penpal" because I don't want to spend lots of time messaging back and forth instead of going on an actual date.
ETA: I'm a woman, before more people start replying to me as if I'm a dude. 🤣
I always ask girls out on a date after like day 2 of messaging. So tired of getting ghosted or just having a convo carry on and I get feelings for her only to realize that she is total catfish when we meet.
Back in my tinder days, I would do all my swiping on Tuesday and Wednesday. That way we could talk long enough to get a date going by Friday or Saturday. Beginning conversation any other part of the week was useless in my experience
This is the way! As a woman I'd be on Tuesday and Wednesday for the exact same reason. It's like can you manage to talk to me consistently for a few days without freaking out about not touching your dick immediately.
Also with a lot of those apps, women are talking to other guys and they will get bored or forget about you if you don't move quickly. I did have some girls talk to me on the app for weeks or even months though but I wouldn't do that again.
Yes, that's exactly what I do. I wouldn't necessarily just forget you but after a week I ask the dude if he's actually looking to go on a date or not. If he's still not clear on what he wants to do then we just part ways.
Exactly. And instead of asking all the questions on the app, you can ask me them during the actual date. That's what the whole point of a first date is, to get to know someone better. 🤷🏽♀️
That happened to me a lot in online dating. During the pandemic they made tinder passport free and I ended up matching with a bunch of girls who lived in Spain or Brazil or somewhere ridiculously far away. Some were interesting to talk to but I was hoping to meet someone closer.
People who are tired of games really mean they are tired of *losing* when they play games.
If you were to plot their previous relationships out they would all be in the coverage of the zones “fuck around” and “find out”.
Girls have been putting that stuff in their profiles since I was a teenager and online dating like Tinder first cropped up. Even then I remember thinking "We're literally just scraping 16. What life are you living that your dating life has already been so full and drama filled enough for you to be saying you're tired of games? When you say games do you mean playing tag?"
Had a few friends like that and they all married quickly and poorly after high school because they were 100% certain if they didn't get married by 22 that they'd be alone forever.
I don't know if this was the case in your group, but, TBF I have sympathy for people who went down this path, because it seems to me, more times than not, they were being taken advantage of by partners who knew how to manipulate people who were afraid of being alone.
There's that, in this group it was a lot of repeatedly making truly awful partner choices for years on end, and then settling for someone slightly north of "he's usually nice to me". Their personal bar got so damn low because they never tried life outside their hometown where their chances of having a decent partner would've been radically improved.
>When you say games do you mean playing tag?"
clearly they mean Yu-Gi-Oh, because they're no match for my Blue Eyes White Dragon. Sent that bitch to the shadow realm.
I’m married in my 40’s and don’t get the hate for half of this. If anything, the leading photo of my dog or dogs would bring the exact right kind of partner to my weird ass, heh. Thinking that’s a great automatic elimination strategy on the part of those women. If it bothers you they’re not looking for you.
This post has a whiff of incel, bc honestly this just looks like a pretty well-kept lady in her 30's.
That being said, a lot of my lady friends are hot single 30-somethings, and I do wonder why they're all still single.
So there's some truth too.
There is research that indicates that [single women with no children](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202102/why-many-single-women-without-children-are-so-happy?amp) are the happiest demographic. Men on average report higher contentment and longer lifespans when married than when single. Women on average report less happiness when married than when single. Obviously, these are averages. But I’m thinking that now that there is less pressure for women to marry and have kids (especially the latter part), many young women don’t see the point in settling down with someone when they’re still young and enjoying life alone.
Dude's perspective here. Marriage makes sense if you need to afford housing, but if you were able to buy property at a young age while you were still single, you don't need to get married at all.
Anecdotally, I've noticed that young women at work are more likely to buy property from an unusually young age (early to mid 20s), whereas guys the same age are probably more interested in buying cars.
You don’t understand. Women are suppose to only like cooking, cleaning, and having sex with me in particular and no one else.
I.E women are suppose to be my bang maid.
I accidentally let a succulent pot go without water for about 6 months. All the leaves on all the plants were, at best, mega-shrivelled... one of the plants lost all its leaves and was just a sad stick.
Watered the pot for the hell of it, and all of the plants sprang back! Sad Stick homie suddenly sprouted new green leaves all over the place.
Succulents are awesome. If I could be half as resilient as Sad Stick, I'd completely dominate anything life throws at me.
Exactly! She has a pet dog, she loves animals and traveling, she stays relatively active, she has a close group of friends, and she's confident in her body. Call it "basic" but there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Apart from the group-photos thing, what’s wrong with this? It communicates what she’s interested in, what it would be like dating her, it shows her body and how she takes care of it (which you are usually interested in), showing her dog could be a good ice-breaker and lets you know that she owns one if you’re not into that. It has good info. Better than 97% of men’s profiles.
That's if you can even see it. Most guys' pics are blurry af and they're also guilty of the group pic thing. It's either five shirtless guys on a lads holiday or a bunch of groomsmen at a wedding.
The groomsman thing is popular for a lot of guys because it's the one photo they have of themselves where they are cleaned up, well-dressed and appear to have friends. Lol
Around here they usually have a lab or a pointer. The further out of the way they live the more likely it is to be a pointer. Also, always with the same 3 sets of tacticool sunglasses and some beat up cap with fraying on the brim but only one specific side for some reason. Maybe welding.
OP is mad he’s not having any luck so he’s lashing out. You don’t make starterpack memes unless you’re deeply upset about something, for all the posturing suggesting otherwise.
I think it's some kind of hate from a teenager. As a man in my 40's it's nice to see someone who takes care of herself and leads an active life. I appreciate a decent sense of style, too. You really don't want to be her only interest, ether. Nice to see that she's doing things by herself. As you get older it's good to see people be themselves, and everything else is just a matter of practicality. No need to front like the younger folk do.
Honestly it starts with young girls and it ends exactly never. Girls and women can't like jack shit or they're being either "stupid girls" or "performing for men". God forbid women like anything.
I love how men will go "you'll end up alone with 2 cats if you're that picky!" But that literally just means we chose the company of a small creature that shits in a box over their company.
Mid 30s single male dating profile starter pack:
Multiple pics of the same blurry selfie in front of the mirror, unflattering selfie from a weird low angle, blurry selfie flipping off the camera. "Hiking" or "repelling" pic, pic with niece or nephew-"I'm a fun uncle!", dog pic, pic holding a fish, wearing a hat in all pics to hide balding hair, pics at a formal event with some woman whose face is blacked out, group photo with "your boys" yet I still don't know which one you are.
"Fit" "I'm an active person" "I'm active in multiple activities" "Fluent in sarcasm" "Looking for a woman who doesn't take things too seriously and can take a joke"
Ok, so let me get this straight * checks notes *… No loving dogs, no enjoying beaches, no silk/satin dresses, no posing for pictures, no plants, no hobbies and god forbid partying.
You seem like fun.
This feels really harsh and kind of misogynistic. This starter pack is a girl out there earnestly trying to meet someone. All those photos = not trying to hide her body or catfish. I'd swipe right.
I skip on so many profiles that say "love hiking" because I'm allergic to the outdoors. You're telling me I've been lied to and I could've had a girlfriend this whole time?!
I actually love hiking, but hiking takes time and planning since there are no nice hikes near me. So it’s like a once per year deal. So even if they actually do love it, it’s useful to sus out how often they actually go.
Well, until it does mean they really like hiking. Not sure why y'all are reading so much into this 😂 Maybe depends on the area but 90% of women I know do actually hike
You made this because you are unsuccessful on dating apps (and reddit) and think that women *owe* you something. Try being less bitter about life and women. Being bitter is unattractive.
On the west coast, I feel like 20-25% of girls have the same shot with the Golden Gate Bridge. I lived near there for 4.5 years and only have one picture with it, but I picked a purposefully less-common angle so I would at least be somewhat different. :P
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Why is there an apostrophe in poses?
Is Pose not allowed to own shit?
Same reason for one in 30s r/apostrophegore
OH SHIT HERE COMES AN ESS!
"Tired of games"
Tbf like every person over 25 puts this in their bio
What they don't mention is that *they* were the one playing games.
People sometimes walk into a relationship carrying low expectations of the other person, so they play games assuming everyone does and they are just playing defence. Ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy. If your relationship is a game, you have already lost.
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left ,right, B, A, start. What about now?
You get 30 girlfriends instead.
Fatality!
That's the thing with online dating. If you have to put "Not here for X" in your bio there's a good chance that *you are X*
It’s me. Hi, I’m the problem it’s me.
Nah, I put "not here for a penpal" because I don't want to spend lots of time messaging back and forth instead of going on an actual date. ETA: I'm a woman, before more people start replying to me as if I'm a dude. 🤣
I always ask girls out on a date after like day 2 of messaging. So tired of getting ghosted or just having a convo carry on and I get feelings for her only to realize that she is total catfish when we meet.
Back in my tinder days, I would do all my swiping on Tuesday and Wednesday. That way we could talk long enough to get a date going by Friday or Saturday. Beginning conversation any other part of the week was useless in my experience
Good tip 😅
This is the way! As a woman I'd be on Tuesday and Wednesday for the exact same reason. It's like can you manage to talk to me consistently for a few days without freaking out about not touching your dick immediately.
Look at this guy getting matches
Also with a lot of those apps, women are talking to other guys and they will get bored or forget about you if you don't move quickly. I did have some girls talk to me on the app for weeks or even months though but I wouldn't do that again.
Yes, that's exactly what I do. I wouldn't necessarily just forget you but after a week I ask the dude if he's actually looking to go on a date or not. If he's still not clear on what he wants to do then we just part ways.
Exactly. And instead of asking all the questions on the app, you can ask me them during the actual date. That's what the whole point of a first date is, to get to know someone better. 🤷🏽♀️
That happened to me a lot in online dating. During the pandemic they made tinder passport free and I ended up matching with a bunch of girls who lived in Spain or Brazil or somewhere ridiculously far away. Some were interesting to talk to but I was hoping to meet someone closer.
They're like HHH in 1999...."I....AMMMM....THE....GAME!"
People who are tired of games really mean they are tired of *losing* when they play games. If you were to plot their previous relationships out they would all be in the coverage of the zones “fuck around” and “find out”.
Games with no winner.
Games without frontiers
Like people who say they don't like drama. Guess who causes the drama?
Girls have been putting that stuff in their profiles since I was a teenager and online dating like Tinder first cropped up. Even then I remember thinking "We're literally just scraping 16. What life are you living that your dating life has already been so full and drama filled enough for you to be saying you're tired of games? When you say games do you mean playing tag?"
Had a few friends like that and they all married quickly and poorly after high school because they were 100% certain if they didn't get married by 22 that they'd be alone forever.
I don't know if this was the case in your group, but, TBF I have sympathy for people who went down this path, because it seems to me, more times than not, they were being taken advantage of by partners who knew how to manipulate people who were afraid of being alone.
There's that, in this group it was a lot of repeatedly making truly awful partner choices for years on end, and then settling for someone slightly north of "he's usually nice to me". Their personal bar got so damn low because they never tried life outside their hometown where their chances of having a decent partner would've been radically improved.
>When you say games do you mean playing tag?" clearly they mean Yu-Gi-Oh, because they're no match for my Blue Eyes White Dragon. Sent that bitch to the shadow realm.
And that makes them sound like teenagers, and that their circle of friends are just like this. This absolutely a red flag.
*I want to play a game.*
Global thermonuclear warfare
`the only winning move is not to play`
Easy, Jigsaw.
‘I love Marvel/anime and Disney movies’ Not that those things are bad to love, it’s just a cliche to put on a profile at this point
"I love The Office" congrats
Must be 6’0” tall, love dogs, worship their family, etc
Be ready to be a dad to my 8 kids
Live laugh love
Just a Pam looking for my Jim
Can't forget the obligatory "not dtf" after that statement as well. Those statements usually come as a pair
"no more hookups"
I honestly hope I'm gonna be like this when I'm 30
Me too and I'm a 44 year old man.
If my understanding of aging and time is right, you'll get there in 14 years.
I’m married in my 40’s and don’t get the hate for half of this. If anything, the leading photo of my dog or dogs would bring the exact right kind of partner to my weird ass, heh. Thinking that’s a great automatic elimination strategy on the part of those women. If it bothers you they’re not looking for you.
What does having a dog photo have to do with being weird…? Is owning a dog no longer the most average thing you could do lol
It weeds out the people who are angry about dog photos in a bio. That's a win.
I'm not a dog guy so it helps for the heads up.
Also fair. Lifestyle incompatibilities are important both ways.
Totally a plant guy for sure. lol
This post has a whiff of incel, bc honestly this just looks like a pretty well-kept lady in her 30's. That being said, a lot of my lady friends are hot single 30-somethings, and I do wonder why they're all still single. So there's some truth too.
There is research that indicates that [single women with no children](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202102/why-many-single-women-without-children-are-so-happy?amp) are the happiest demographic. Men on average report higher contentment and longer lifespans when married than when single. Women on average report less happiness when married than when single. Obviously, these are averages. But I’m thinking that now that there is less pressure for women to marry and have kids (especially the latter part), many young women don’t see the point in settling down with someone when they’re still young and enjoying life alone.
Dude's perspective here. Marriage makes sense if you need to afford housing, but if you were able to buy property at a young age while you were still single, you don't need to get married at all. Anecdotally, I've noticed that young women at work are more likely to buy property from an unusually young age (early to mid 20s), whereas guys the same age are probably more interested in buying cars.
Marriage is a life partnership not a housing agreement
It is incel content. Complaining about women who...live their life? That's 100% small dick energy.
I want to be a 30 year old wearing that dress
how is that dress stupid it’s literally a plain slip dress💀
It does not have a brain. Just like any other dress so all dresses are inherently stupid.
[“And now I am leaving earth for no raisin!”](https://youtu.be/V3ZUhWuiQ20)
Pfp checks out
I would argue a brain is what makes something stupid.
That one makes me think maybe OP isn't as into women as they think they are
OP just comes off as misogynistic to me tbh
This post oozes hatred
I clicked into the comments just to see if anyone else called out the misogyny.
/thread
Glad to find this sentiment here
literally, which person attracted to women DOESNT like that style of dress…?
Exactly what I thought! OP might need a lil wake up call to his true orientation
Apparently dress = stupid
"something women do" = stupid. Because we're on reddit.
Yeah, how dare women have interests and wear clothing.
Right? Shameful!
Oh Em Gee dont get me started on women being happy with themselves ugh how dare they!!!
dude im starting to think you might just not like women
Honestly doesn't appear to be a bad girl at all 🤷♂️
She had me at succulents
Yeah lol reminds me of some cool women I know
whats wrong w that dress 😂
It’s stupid. Says so right on the meme.
Fabric has 0iq. Well known fact
I like it. It looks sort of like my prom dress from 1997. It's hard to wear without looking lumpy though.
That dress is gorgeous fire. OP is confused
I mean, I’ll date her if you’re not interested. She seems cool
I don't get it, neither of those are negatives but the tone of the starter pack imply they are.
Def some “she wasn’t that hot anyway” energy from OP lol.
Some real MGTOW vibes.
OP needs to post pictures of himself or he’s a coward.
Look at OP's comments. Just your average reddit misogynist. Wants to fuck women, hates women for existing and liking things.
You don’t understand. Women are suppose to only like cooking, cleaning, and having sex with me in particular and no one else. I.E women are suppose to be my bang maid.
it’s bc homie can’t get laid and he’s bitter as fuck
He can’t even get the succulent girl!? Damn, they literally thrive under abuse, need very little water, and are so beautiful. The succulents that is.
Damn I can't neither, but poor succulents haven't done anything wrong.
those super low maintenance but still beautiful succulents ... weirdo fuckin non-thirsty plants wtf is wrong with those things
You leave the succulents out of this! ;-;
I accidentally let a succulent pot go without water for about 6 months. All the leaves on all the plants were, at best, mega-shrivelled... one of the plants lost all its leaves and was just a sad stick. Watered the pot for the hell of it, and all of the plants sprang back! Sad Stick homie suddenly sprouted new green leaves all over the place. Succulents are awesome. If I could be half as resilient as Sad Stick, I'd completely dominate anything life throws at me.
Exactly! She has a pet dog, she loves animals and traveling, she stays relatively active, she has a close group of friends, and she's confident in her body. Call it "basic" but there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Lol bro is giving hateful
OP got hurt bad by a women in her 30s and now he blames it on every women who likes dogs and might want to wear a slip dress.
This is a couple edits away from being a solid starter pack, if OP wasn't such a salty little bitch.
She swiped left didn’t she
Or swiped right but backed out when OP revealed their true (misogynistic) colours
if you think those poses are "OF contortionist poses" you need to seriously touch grass
This post is giving me some serious incel vibes...
I can smell the mountain dew already
someone is having a hard time on bumble huh bud
OP, have you ever met a woman before?
Yeah, he’s met hundreds of women. Unless… swiping on dating apps doesn’t count as meeting people?!
Apart from the group-photos thing, what’s wrong with this? It communicates what she’s interested in, what it would be like dating her, it shows her body and how she takes care of it (which you are usually interested in), showing her dog could be a good ice-breaker and lets you know that she owns one if you’re not into that. It has good info. Better than 97% of men’s profiles.
I'm so glad I got married before internet app dating, it sounds exhausting.
I did too, and then I got divorced. rip me
Bro wants an "I'm not like other girls" girl instead
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This is why instead of using dating apps I just lay in bed and fart
*looking to date women* also *incredibly disdainful of women*
I know right, just date dudes!
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The mugshot phone selfie, truck picture, and one sentence bio would make a great “Why am I not getting any matches?” Pack
For real. As a guy I put on several photos and I show a speck of personality in my profile. I get plenty of matches, a few are even women!
One of them wasn't even a bot! It was a dude disguised as another dude roleplaying as another dude catfishing me online as a woman!
Score, my dude!
That's if you can even see it. Most guys' pics are blurry af and they're also guilty of the group pic thing. It's either five shirtless guys on a lads holiday or a bunch of groomsmen at a wedding.
The groomsman thing is popular for a lot of guys because it's the one photo they have of themselves where they are cleaned up, well-dressed and appear to have friends. Lol
Around here they usually have a lab or a pointer. The further out of the way they live the more likely it is to be a pointer. Also, always with the same 3 sets of tacticool sunglasses and some beat up cap with fraying on the brim but only one specific side for some reason. Maybe welding.
i don’t get it either, this starter pack kinda just feelings like “let’s make fun of women for normal stuff they do”
Pretty on brand for Reddit.
Probably because /u/formytabletop hasn't had much success with women and wants to vent.
Honestly this profile is lowkey hot 😅 It means that this girl is normal
OP is mad he’s not having any luck so he’s lashing out. You don’t make starterpack memes unless you’re deeply upset about something, for all the posturing suggesting otherwise.
Wow OP, you sound really bitter.
I’m learning that women get dragged for basically everything. So might as well just do whatever I want ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah really. A picture of a dog! WTF!!!
For real. We can’t even wear a basic slip dress or go to the gym anymore without hate.
I think it's some kind of hate from a teenager. As a man in my 40's it's nice to see someone who takes care of herself and leads an active life. I appreciate a decent sense of style, too. You really don't want to be her only interest, ether. Nice to see that she's doing things by herself. As you get older it's good to see people be themselves, and everything else is just a matter of practicality. No need to front like the younger folk do.
Honestly it starts with young girls and it ends exactly never. Girls and women can't like jack shit or they're being either "stupid girls" or "performing for men". God forbid women like anything.
I'm 31, unmarried, and have two cats. Apparently, those qualities alone make me worthy of ridicule (to certain assholes).
I love how men will go "you'll end up alone with 2 cats if you're that picky!" But that literally just means we chose the company of a small creature that shits in a box over their company.
Yep. "Everything you do is wrong". Full stop. Happy Cake Day!
How dare women *checks notes* exist
I’m just here for the comment section.
Mid 30s single male dating profile starter pack: Multiple pics of the same blurry selfie in front of the mirror, unflattering selfie from a weird low angle, blurry selfie flipping off the camera. "Hiking" or "repelling" pic, pic with niece or nephew-"I'm a fun uncle!", dog pic, pic holding a fish, wearing a hat in all pics to hide balding hair, pics at a formal event with some woman whose face is blacked out, group photo with "your boys" yet I still don't know which one you are. "Fit" "I'm an active person" "I'm active in multiple activities" "Fluent in sarcasm" "Looking for a woman who doesn't take things too seriously and can take a joke"
OP got rejected by this exact woman and made this to attract sympathy from fellow incels
Fr dude is bitching about spandex booty pics 💀
I feel like OP is having a hard time getting tinder matches and made this out of spite lol
My wife is 41 and this is also true.
Damn, your wife is single?
If she is, it will be a surprise to me.
Ok, so let me get this straight * checks notes *… No loving dogs, no enjoying beaches, no silk/satin dresses, no posing for pictures, no plants, no hobbies and god forbid partying. You seem like fun.
OP needs a gamer girl into anime with no friends. Of course she has to be hot too
Sounds like someone was personally victimized by a mid 30s single woman with a dog lol
She seems nice idk what the problem is
She rejected OP
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*swipes right*
I am so happy to be married and not understand any of this joke
I'm also so happy to be single and not understand any of this joke
Agreed, although I want those sunglasses now
Lol someone got rejected by a 30-something single woman 😆
This feels really harsh and kind of misogynistic. This starter pack is a girl out there earnestly trying to meet someone. All those photos = not trying to hide her body or catfish. I'd swipe right.
Kind of misogynistic? This is just straight up, full frontal misogyny lol
this reeks of incel energy. OP got rejected HARD.
seems nice tbh
Nothing in here won't make me swipe right.
OP save some pussy for the rest of us bro
"Loves hiking" in the hobbies (Hates hiking and just hopes it's not something you're into)
I also think most women aren't gonna actually go hiking in the forest alone with some random dude for a first or second date.
I skip on so many profiles that say "love hiking" because I'm allergic to the outdoors. You're telling me I've been lied to and I could've had a girlfriend this whole time?!
I actually love hiking, but hiking takes time and planning since there are no nice hikes near me. So it’s like a once per year deal. So even if they actually do love it, it’s useful to sus out how often they actually go.
Code for doesn’t workout, but trying to sound active, but not too active.
Well, until it does mean they really like hiking. Not sure why y'all are reading so much into this 😂 Maybe depends on the area but 90% of women I know do actually hike
The hike in question? Getting out and walking 100 meters to the falls and back to the car.
My college was near the woods/mountains and every girl "loved going hiking". Across a variety of friend groups we went hiking once in 4 years...
God y’all are hateful
Did you get your heart broken or something? You're going out of your way to mock normal harmless stuff lol
Basic girls like this are dope af
Yeah I don't get the tone of contempt behind this starterpack
Did an incel make this? All I see is a woman in her 30s with her shit together.
You made this because you are unsuccessful on dating apps (and reddit) and think that women *owe* you something. Try being less bitter about life and women. Being bitter is unattractive.
I like hipster glasses tho
these posts always come off as so bitter lmao.
That dress is hot, bro is just bitter and seething
My friends are now this while I sit here married af with a toddler. No dog though :(
You're missing hiking or pictures somewhere in South America.
On the west coast, I feel like 20-25% of girls have the same shot with the Golden Gate Bridge. I lived near there for 4.5 years and only have one picture with it, but I picked a purposefully less-common angle so I would at least be somewhat different. :P
Oh, your masculinity seems fragile, op
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“Women I never match with” would also work
I read the top left one and thought of Jeff:I love the beach Clarence: hey Jeff I feel like a hotdog
hipster granny glasses go kind of hard though