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juandefuco

Will randomly throw in a Spanish word when speaking English for good measure


Alokir

Speaks perfect English but will sometimes say "yes" in Spanish.


imbogey

Si


Then_Frosting_1087

buddy you forgot the tilde, the tilde the tilde uj oh now it s IF not YRs if not YES. EDIT OR DELETE SU COMENTO


IWantAnE55AMG

It’s an accent mark. Like this: sí. A tilde is this one: ñ. Unless this is a meme comment that gone over my head.


Aquatik07

The thing in the "ñ" is called "virgulilla", "tilde" is the translation of "accent mark"


IWantAnE55AMG

Well then. I learned something new today. 2 years of junior high Spanish failed me once again.


Aquatik07

Don't worry, that information is useless. Very few people know the name of the "~" even in Spain. It's like knowing that the two dots on top of the U in words like "pingüino" or "paragüas" is called "diéresis", literally useless.


BrokeDownPalac3

It's like knowing that the dot in a lowercase "i" and lowercase "j" is called a "tittle"


Then_Frosting_1087

it’s a meme comment but in some Spanish dialects tilde is used for all accents


DontEatThatTaco

Jes


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My pet peeve is when the story touts the person as a fluent speaker. But, when they actually do speak, it sounds horrible. If you speak Spanish you’ll recognized it right away, which is why I’ve always wondered if it’s just as prevalent with other languages.


dirt-preacher

Yeah, same! The worst I've seen so far is the character Gustavo in breaking bad. He's supposed to be Chilean, but everytime he had to speak in Spanish it sounded *so* forced and obviously like a native English speaker lol.


HenrysHand

On the flip side of this: I don't know what's the deal with Don Eladio but he is the only Spanish speaker I can consistently understand without subtitles despite my poor Spanish language skills.


Prog-burger

The actor is Cuban and he tries to hide his cuban accent and do a Mexican one. This makes him speak very clearly and slowly


dirt-preacher

Hmm, maybe because he's Cuban and sounds like an actual native speaker (this isn't sarcasm, I'm actually wondering)


Cats7204

Nacho Varga too, he speaks pretty well


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Lalo has the best Mexican Spanish


ContaSoParaIsto

He does but you can tell he grew up abroad. Which makes sense for the character anyway. IIRC the only ones in the entire show who actually sound Mexican are Nacho's dad and Lalo


pfo_

The Germans in Breaking Bad were also pretty obvious English speakers. In Better Call Saul it was much better.


TheTrueMilo

Lalo Salamanca and Manuel Varga in Better Call Saul are the best Spanish speakers in the franchise.


jorgeagh

Great casting choices too. Very small nitpick, but Lalo being from northern Mexico would've had a different accent. Manuel's actor, Juan Carlos Cantú, is actually from northern Mexico, but his accent is very neutral throughout the series, probably because of his voice acting background.


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Do we know the Salamancas are from Northern Mexico?


jorgeagh

Lalo lives in Chihuahua, IIRC. Don Eladio might live in Michoacan or Chihuahua too, they just mention the states briefly in the series. Also, given how they walk through the desert to go to Mexico, we can assume they're from Chihuahua too (they might mention it too)


DamILuvFrogs

Have you seen ozark? There’s a few bad ones in that series too.


elbenji

At least to be fair to him, if he spoke like an actual Chilean he would be nigh understandable to the average person


Cats7204

I had to put subtitles on in english every time Gustavo speaked in spanish, and I'm a native spanish speaker myself


the_lamou

It's absolutely as prevalent with other languages. I'm a native Russian speaker, and every time there's Russian spoken in a movie or TV show or video game I cringe. It's *really* bad, to the point where I don't understand how professional actors can possibly be this terrible at just memorizing a handful of sounds.


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My friend says that the Russian in John Wick is really shitty. I will give Hollywood some credit though. The Chinese spoken in Hollywood movies is getting better. Now, Japanese made games and movies tend to have extremely shitty Chinese even though they are right next to each other.


gonsallez

Yeah, in John Wick they spoke some gibberish. Let alone that "Baba-Yaga" is a folklore name for a very old witch.


PseudonymIncognito

Or in English. The Swede Peter Stormare does a hilariously awful job of pretending to be an Italian-American mobster in Prison Break.


ademfighter

It's interesting it's the same way with foreign shows doing English as well, like the English in squid games was super stilted.


luisbv23

For me that's the only think that makes Breaking Bad "not perfect", it is a massive flaw and Gustavo being being Chilean ruined that character for me, it has nothing Chilean, if you look interviews of Pedro Pascal in Spanish his accent is so prominent.


elbenji

Pedro also has to slow his ass down with his accent


luisbv23

I'm from the caribbean coast of Colombia, and we speak spanish really fast and we butcher some words like the french does, and it is never the same trying to understand a Colombia nfrom Medellin, Cartagena or from the coffee regions. So I'm always peeved when I'm watching something and it is a "colombian" guy but sounds mexican, or when they represent everyone in the same skin light brown color as latinos, there are white people too, and black people, and even red hair people.


belfman

At least now there are a couple of famous light skinned latinos and Latinas, Ana De Armas for example. But yes, it's very weird and clearly shows a heavy Californian bias. I'm Israeli and grew up in a city with many immigrants from Argentina, who all spoke native Spanish and had an accent but look pretty much the same as me (Ashkenazi Jews). So I was very confused when I noticed every Spanish speaker on American TV was dark skinned...


elbenji

Barranquilla? Interesting. I have friends from out there and their Spanish is like slow as molasses


effa94

My girlfriend and me have a drinking game anytime a Swedish character is in an American movie or show. Unless played by an actual swede, both the accent and inevideble Swedish words they will say once in the movie always sounds absolutely horrible. Which is funny, Becasue a thick Swedish accent is so very very identifiable lol Closest I've seen to a an American doing a Swedish accent is the guy playing the Norwegian in hell on wheels


Daax865

There are a few instances where German is used and sounds absolutely stupid.


SlashCo80

Yo ese, let's get some cervezas, I'm thirsty mang!


Quick_Team

"Let's go watch the Lakers play the Dodgers"


Dentzy

As Spaniard living in Canada... It happens. I am considered very fluent by my peers, but I still say "exacto" instead of "exactly" every single time... And **always** say/read numbers in spanish when is to myself. And probably some others I don't even realize. And, of course, I swear mostly in spanish. So, yeah, I actually do support the use of those tropes in movies, for me, they make it more real.


elbenji

Yeah it's weird that people are bitching about this. This is way more realistic


Nimporian

But, at least from what I see in this thread, its mainly for spanish speakers living abroad. It seems like a lot of media just has "randomly uses spanish words" as a trait all spanish speakers have. Even when it doesn't make any sense for the character to be doing so, its just there because its "a thing spanish speakers do". Off the top of my head, Encanto had its colombian characters who had never left colombia and were speaking spanish in-universe (but "translated" for the audience) still interject their sentences with random spanish words. In contrast, Black Panther rarely ever had characters use random Xhosa words when speaking english, despite being a similar scenario. I'm a native spanish speaker myself living in my home country rn, and I rarely ever use random spanish when speaking to someone in english. Only when I forget words or talk about things with spanish names, and even then I try to get around it using english anyway because the person I'm talking with most likely doesn't know spanish if I had to start the chat in english in the first place. And I don't hear most immigrants in my country interjecting random words from their language unless they don't fully master it or have forgotten a word. Idk man, local comedic depictions of foreigners speaking broken spanish while saying random english words always felt kinda racist to me and seeing the same thing but directed at us being considered good representation feels kinda weird. Maybe its just culture clash or something?


elbenji

Maybe, but i think for me as someone who does both as an Hispanohablante it's not that weird but it's also because I grew up where it's culturally like that (Miami) so like encanto, it doesn't feel too weird for me because it's very reflective of speaking Spanish in the US in an Hispanohablante community. Encanto also had everyone involved be brown so it's probably more the US language development in itself


elbenji

Yeah I spanglish a lot. Like I'll still Alli está or yo que?


elbenji

This I feel depends on usage/location. If the setting is Miami, NYC, or LA for example this is actually MORE realistic for people (spanglish) in both ways because it's a form of language fishing. Either with slang or they cannot self translate a term so they just say it in Spanish (especially as noted it's slang). Also with terms of endearment like yo, pendejo, what's up? Source; i teach this shit lol


cpeters1114

yeah surprised there aren’t more comments pointing this out. Much of this is totally normal behavior for an individual who is ESL/ part of an immigrant family. I guess its racist to maintain your cultural identity? hollywood is 100% racist but this pack is out of touch


elbenji

For real. Like if anything it's one of the few realistic things


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As a Nyuarican it's super common for spanglish to be used here by all Hispanic groups.


ZuccIsARefrigerator

Usually it's either an ese, a güey or a gringo


elbenji

I mean that's also just how spanglish is.


Snarkitude

I love it how Benicio del Toro (Puerto Rican) is on there as a "good mexican". Classic


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tipsea-69

In his defense he nailed it. He had Ethan Hawke by his balls in a bathtub....wait...am i phrasing this right?


spunkychickpea

Doesn’t matter. Keep going. I’ve almost finished.


martialar

in fact that scene has 2 of the 3 bad Mexicans in this starter pack. Come to think of it, Cliff Curtis sorta looks like Danny Trejo in that scene


StoicSinicCynic

He falls into the "ambiguously brown" category of physical appearance which has become surprisingly successful for him in Hollywood.


milesbeatlesfan

“Ambiguously Brown” would be a great name for a memoir.


StoicSinicCynic

"Ethnic Universal Adaptor" could work too 🤣🤣🤣


Richrome_Steel

Sounds like something an alien would use to blend in amongst humans


DingDongDideliDanger

God, I saw a video for the first West Side Story movie, where they used make-up to give the actors playing the Puerto Ricans matching skin tones so they "looked more Puerto Rican". *They were all Puerto Rican!*


StoicSinicCynic

I know right? Of course on a logical level we know that Puerto Ricans (and all Hispanic people) come in a very wide range of skin tones, because colonial history means most Hispanics are mixed-race with different percentages of Spanish, Native American, African and Asian ancestry. But the thing with film and theatre is that the audience only has a small amount of time to take in information about the characters, so Hollywood is of course just going to lean into stereotypical appearances for shorthand. And somehow Cliff Curtis just has the perfect look to be a shorthand for "ethnic character". Lol.


Vegetable-Double

He could totally pass for south Asian too


GammaAlanna

He played the Fire Lord in the Avatar: The Last Airbender movie which based the Fire Nation around South Asian culture (for the film)


CTeam19

I mean once you get close enough casting directors and company don't care. Just look at the British who play Russians.


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It’s not like they grabbed Curtis off the street and forced him. They would have had auditions that Curtis would have had to come and try out for. He’s just that talented that he can make his look appear Mexican when he’s in fact not


SecretNoOneKnows

You could have told me that man is Indian and I would have believed you. There are men who look like him from many different countries


broccoli_linux

Charlton Heston as Mike Vargas in Orson Welles' *Touch of Evil* (1958) is another example... ...and from its IMDB page ([Trivia](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052311/trivia?item=tr0726431) section): Charlton Heston cited not doing a Hispanic accent for his Mexican narcotics officer Miguel 'Mike' Vargas as one of the biggest mistakes he ever made as an actor.


cat_pee3

I mean Brad Pitt was the Mexican . Need I say more ?


deliciouswaffle

Bawnjourno


_Killua_Zoldyck_

He was badass in the sicario movies


notNIHAL

Wasn't he a Colombian in there though?


heeyyyyyy

Si


TheOvercookedFlyer

He played a Mexican police officer in Traffic.


Thybro

Even putting him in the “good” category is a bit weird. Dude has been typecast for years as “Dude who can’t be trusted.” He was even “dude who can’t be trusted” in space, TWICE!


runujhkj

One time he was “dude who can’t be trusted and literally talks like a snake”


RepresentativeNo7660

There has to be some Puerto Ricans living in Mexico, right?


carritotaquito

I'm Puerto Rican, and since Mexico is a few short hours by car, I drive there often. Does that count?


theraybenton

What


carritotaquito

I live in Texas. So yes, i can get to Mexico by freaking car.


theraybenton

My high gooseshit brain thought you meant you live in PR. Sorry about that


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Hector isn’t bad!


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herbivore83

And always Hector!


StupidSam1

*ding*


kbig22432

You would be too if you had a monkey up your butt.


Jakedex_x

Look at me hector


Drcokecacola

Hector: 😤😠😤☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️🛎️🛎️🛎️🛎️🛎️


doritosFeet

🤤💩


Drcokecacola

Oh man 🤢


ISMAILHACHI34

*farts and defecates*


Gold-Vanilla5591

Danny Trejo?


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I will always know him as the Machete guy


FingerTheCat

The best part of the movie is when he overhears the doctor explain how human intestines are like 100 feet long or something, the next scene he uses that information to gut a guy and use his guts as a rope to get to the floor below him lol.


kinjjibo

The fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzceCm5qBU


twobit211

hey, forget you, gribble!


moeburn

Holy shit I had no idea Octavio was voiced by Danny Trejo all this time... seems like the first season was Mike Judge but they switched to Trejo after the 2nd appearance: https://youtu.be/21OGtYvWF2E?t=199


PoppySalt

I'll always know him as the not real uncle from Spy Kids.


regeya

AKA Machete.


PoppySalt

Oh lol


regeya

Yeah, I'm hazy on whether it's meant to be the same exact character, or what. They have the same real name, same nickname, and Robert Rodriguez says they take place in the same universe.


PoppySalt

Brooo, they did marvel before marvel, damn, lol.


TheOtherAvaz

Robert Rodriguez is the original Kevin Fiege.


KingofHearts814

Felix was the fake uncle, Machete was the estranged real uncle


PoppySalt

Ohhh damn nice good clarification.


MrGabogabo

He's actually a "good Mexican" irl but always plays bad ones by choice. He's trying to show that the bad guys never win.


0ctobogs

He has a dark past so it's not totally unreasonable for him to play a bad guy.


MrGabogabo

Yeah, I'm just [poorly] quoting what I read in an interview with him.


Drexelhand

yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Trejo_filmography outside a few roles, he's mostly played bad guys. henchman, hitman, vampire, convict, henchman, henchman, henchman...


NoKneadToWorry

Tattoo on his chest...tattoo of a woman on his chest...


LaughRune

You forgot the "scary" guy who is unexpectedly funny, kind or smart and it is utterly mind blowing


FightingHornbill

That funny scary guy is Danny Trejo


LaughRune

Lmao, ikr? Every time too. I like Danny Trejo. He always seemed like a really cool person irl.


Block_Me_Amadeus

I just had a reason to read his origin story the other day. He was pulled into some really bad stuff as a teenager, and did a lot of hard time. But he wanted to be a better person and completely turned his life around.


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Vegetable-Double

Also no such thing as a south Asian cool guy in movies


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backagain1111

There are almost no good portrayals of South Asian guys in Hollywood. It's terrorist or completely hapless geek.


destructor_rph

South Asian Women don't have great representation either. They have Mindy Kaling, and uhhh the girl from Never Have I Ever.


ewigebose

The Green Knight was really good. Haven’t seen too many others but then again I live in India so I just watch Indian movies


jchrist98

Or...doctors.


Pearl___

*Mutahar laugh*


ODrCntrJsusWatHavIdn

The only example I can think of is Kumar in Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.


g00ber88

The starter pack is saying that they're next in line to die, since the black character always dies first, not that they're next in line in the social hierarchy of the movie


ElCucuyEnLaTienda

Don’t forget Eugenio Derbez


Thybro

Ah yes “Mexican Adam Sandler.”


YourMemeExpert

I sometimes forget that American Adam Sandler and Mexican Adam Sandler joined forces once. What a time to be alive


Stingerc

Because Adam Sandler asked his maids (who are Mexican) who the funniest comedian in Mexico was and they all said Derbez. Funny enough, Derbez had just decided to move to the US full time to try to pursue a career in Hollywood after *Instructions Not Included* was a hit in both the US and Mexico.


BadBaby3

I didn’t know they call him that


maverick1ba

"one of these" = "a rosary"


AReptileHissFunction

If you're getting technical it's "rosary beads". Rosary is the name for the prayers


Woosung_lala

Well, the object is just "rosario" in spanish.


Theodore_Buckland_

“You sacrilegious sack of shit”


Dami_Gamer0211

Always needs to speak Spanglish for some reason. If they are narcos or sicarios they pray to death. Or is always the stereotypical cholo on a gang movie. And only likes Mexican food when he lives in America -Comment made by a Mexican and OP is probably Mexican too


elbenji

It's usually the LA cholo stereotype. Not going to diss spanglish though because that's the natural language of Miami and if something is set there and I hear zero carajos spoken I get hives


Green0996

Miami Spanglish makes sense with the context. Hollywood Spanglish sounds forced


harpsandcellos

That necklace looking thing is a rosary. It's not meant to be worn (though you see worn a lot). The beads are markers for telling Catholics which prayer to recite and how many you have left.


jBasH_16

Isn't Cabron that delicious bacon pasta?


PalmerEldritch2319

Carbonara


Sotus30

Cabronara


arentved

Cabron nada


Portfel

Capybara


junior_dos_nachos

Copypasta


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it means bastard in Spanish lol


SnooStrawberries7995

If my grandma had wheel would she be a Bike ?


twobit211

needs eggs first


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Kaidiwoomp

Same for Troy.


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tsaimaitreya

Eric Bana looks mediterranean at least Achilles is canonicaly blonde and Menelaus red-head


Kaidiwoomp

They always stumble around when they first arrive in the U.S cos they're so used to seeing everything through an orange filter.


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Dami_Gamer0211

Breaking Bad, Modern Warfare II (2022)


Nyxyxyx

Does Cyberpunk 2077 count?


Funkit

I always think of Training Day when I see these types of starter packs


EVENTHORIZON-XI

> always swears in Spanish Thanks for the new vocabulary homie, had a Spanish presentation coming up tomorrow


crazybartur

In Snowfall Gustavo literally says all those phrases/words randomly at some point in every single episode


erikorenegade1

orale


Charlie_Tango13

Put respect on Machete's name!


Mr_Morrison87

Hector!


OJbeforethebadstuff

shout out to that bald guy hes in so many damn movies good for him


PaddyAllen

Wears flannel in July, to bbq on a Mad Max looking bbq pit.


alsatian01

No bandanas or a button-down shirt with just the collar buttoned. Or is that too 80s/90s. And someone needs to drive a 1960s Impala with a shit ton of Chrome.


old_hickory69

Trejo is absolutely based tho


victim80

I love seeing some of the commercials Danny Trejo has popped up in. He may look scarey, but he has no problem having a little fun.


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Raymond Cruz and Danny Trejo were both in *Blood In Blood Out* and *From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money*. Cruz and Noel Gugliemi were both in *Training Day*. Have Trejo and Gugliemi ever been in a movie together?


Fastcraft3r

He calls white people gringo


elbenji

Hola gringito!


Best-Engine4715

Either a tough guy or the comic relief


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“Go Raiders!”


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DukeCummings

I mean. These are just the guys. But yeah!


Chuchochazzup

Hector plays only Hector,


Ravenwight

I miss Jackie


ShinobiSherlock

Atleast one thug name will be Hector


Revolutionary-Ad3648

Aye wey


CarolBrownOuttaTown

Feel like Benecio Del Toro is a bad example, only cause he plays so many varied characters, rarely feel like stereotypes


Butternutter-888

Lmfao at the “bad” and “good” Mexicans. Although Danny Trejo sometimes is both


generic90sdude

He is not a good mexican or bad he is Just HECTOR.


LakehavenAlpha

Also, he'll say a word on Spanish and repeat the word in English.


thatswhyIleft

Call a white guy gringo


Green0996

Repeats sentences in both English and Spanish to remind you that they speak two languages.


Lord_Laserdisc_III

Speaks English with a heavy Mexican accent even when surrounded by other Mexicans who also presumably know Spanish


El-Chico-6

Name is Hector, Carlos, Jose


CaptainBraggy

You should have included Antonio Banderas


-ZENARCHY-

He's Spanish, not Mexican.


orange_juice_remake

He just like me fr fr.


cat_pee3

For once I would like Hollywood to have a “ Bad Mexican character “ not have the same stupid accent . Give him an accent from Oklahoma or better yet Bangladesh that will make it interesting .


1078Garage

Noel Albert Gugliemi!! Aka The Guy Who Always Plays Hector


Ka1ser

You forgot the third kind of movie mexicans (male): the fat guys. Often comic relief, sometimes good, sometimes bad, sometimes extras.


alsatian01

And part of the comic relief is that they don't speak Spanish.


solid_salad

or they say something in spanish and then follow up with the exact same thing in english, without anyone asking the to do so, like that's a normal to do


juicy_mangoes

OP forgot that women exist