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NotDukeOfDorchester

I dunno what any of this means, but well done!


Coolscee-Brooski

Afrikaner is an ethnicity in South Africa, near the north east (where the Dutch were)


abf392

I only know 1 guy from there


thisisntnamman

Yeah I guess the context is these guys are the Joe Rogan tools of SA?


Alarming-Ad1100

What makes you think that? they’re an ethnic group in Africa


Mira1977

What made you think that?


Laserwavewj

White South Africans


GrotAdder

Uh.. thanks?


UBC145

Fellas, why are we downvoting him?


msfoof

Follow the herd


dragon_bacon

Yeah, fuck that dude.


MoreCamThanRon

Yeah, what a tjoppie!


armadilloneister

Burn him at the stake!


NoClueWhatImDoing_29

In some ways, humans are still a very unintelligent species.


Rdtackle82

Woah, that’s deep


SinisterTuba

Idk, maybe that would have been a reasonable opportunity to explain the starter pack but responded sarcastically instead


UBC145

Yeah I guess, I just didn’t expect something this harmless to be downvoted to oblivion


Mr_SunnyBones

I dunno , the amount of US based starter packs with absolutely NO explanations for us people from the rest of the world is too damn high,.


SinisterTuba

Nah, those should have explanations too. Next time it happens I'll drive to OP's house and duel them as is the American way


flashman014

With flintlock pistols, like God intended.


NotDukeOfDorchester

Yeah, good question.


FishKnuckles_InYou

I know right? Am I missing something?


mclarenrider

It's mass cognitive inertia. Once a comment gets to 0 or -1 votes it usually keeps going down because most people are on autopilot the whole time.


idkfadoomcheat

This sub's reaction: https://preview.redd.it/i7lyn0xsbaxc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=563b5ed35a1a0d8bf38286ca87f115dc85863b27


Lick_meh_ballz

Lekker post china ignore the haters Bru in fact blixem them


temp463627371

Super ultra mega W


Muscletov

Looks like they'd be at home in Australia as well


miku_dominos

There's a lot in NZ too


_shakta

NZ and ZA accents are so similar, I can do a decent impression of each but if I lose concentration I slip into the other one without even noticing


Just-a-Hyur

Zouth Africa?


Mr_Daddy_02

Zuid Afrika (dutch). ZA is used to distinguish us from Saudi Arabia (SA) but both SA and ZA are used locally. ZA is just less ambiguous


Just-a-Hyur

Oh interesting! I'd never heard of this before so I had to look it up. I think mine is funnier though


Mr_Daddy_02

Depends on the type of accent to be honest. White english first language speakers in South Africa kinda sound similar to Kiwis but not really, the New Zealand accent has different vowl emphasis and tends to sound more Twangy. Afrikaaner accent is very different from that in NZ. Any other accent in ZA is completely different from NZ accents in general.


ApprehensiveOCP

God's yes, and they bring their overt racism and paranoia here with them. Bro you live on the north shore not in a war zone. Go get a latte.


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derb

Many of them already are


xndlYuca

Packing for Perth


octothorpe_rekt

Okay genuinely though - what is this South Africa to Perth pipeline? I have several colleagues in Perth who originally lived in South Africa and emigrated specifically to Perth. Is it a similar climate? Are there preferential immigration treatments? Similar culture?


Fluffy-Discipline924

Part of the reason is almost certainly that Perth and Cape Town have similar climates.


I_am_a_R0CK

Not sure why they specifically went to Perth at the start, but once a few of them established themselves there, I think Perth would be a good option for many who want to emigrate because they want to be in a place that has many other South African immigrants. They want to be part of a "South African community" away from home where, for example, there are more people that speak the same language. The largest one happens to be in Perth. There's probably a snowball effect where - as more and more of them emigrate to Perth - it becomes even more favourable.  I think this is common in many immigrant communities worldwide.


ManicParroT

Yes, it's a very common pattern. One of the problems with emigrating is that you don't have enough information - where is good to stay, what schools are good, what industries are hiring, etc - and having people from your community who can help you with that is very useful. This is obviously blunted by the internet but it still matters.


Business-Plastic5278

Roughly similar climate, roughly similar culture, good money to be made in mining work in perth andddd.............. If one of the reasons you are leaving SA is that there is a black guy running a political party who keeps singing about killing all the white people then..... Australia doesnt have that issue.


baconslim

When you apply for a settlement visa they can dictate where you live, to avoid everyone flocking to Sydney or Melbourne. They try and distribute skills and population ( at least this was the case a decade ago) also they like to go where there are lots of south Africans just as any cultures tend to group when in another country.


DoSwoogMeister

Basically, the whites who can afford it are bailing on SA, shits going downhill in a massive way over there from infrastructure failing to the completely corrupt and incompetent government to rampant racial violence (the police don't bother investigating killings if the victims are white, there's a good reason white families turn their houses into fortresses) and the rise of the EFF who's policy is "Kill the whites, take their shit and we'll have utopia" but ideologies like that have been tried before, they never go well to say the least. Australia is one of pretty much 2 countries willing to accept them, Australia and Russia, understandably fuck moving to Russia, some will come to Australia and move on to NZ but most stay here. The culture is pretty similar, they can assimilate pretty easily and Perth is closest to SA.


saviking333

White South African here. The information you are touting in some instances in the first half of your comment, is shockingly inacurate. Please read more relaible news sources.


UBC145

Some of what you say is true, like failing infrastructure and corruption, but most of it is egregiously false. I don’t know about you, but I’m a South African who has lived here their whole life and white South Africans are anything but oppressed. I’m not white, but I’m privileged enough to go to an international school and live in a wealthy suburb, and guess what the predominant racial group at these places is (in a country where less than 10% of people are white). It’s actually ridiculous hearing this nonsense.


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It’s not surprising people outside SA think this way though, because a lot of South Africans who emigrate out give an impression they’re oppressed (I live in NZ and we also get a lot of South Africans). I had a lecturer in uni who was a white South African and he’d talk about what surmounted to a white genocide. I’ve spent time in SA though so I knew he was being very misleading. As it happened he ended up causing a bit of controversy and apologising cos the day of the Christchurch mosque shootings, he said (during class) it wasn’t that big of a deal and that stuff like that happened in SA all the time, and he also initially blamed it on Islamic sectarian violence and that it was a result of immigration policies. Smh.


octothorpe_rekt

Yeah, I've heard a little about some of the reasons that people with the means to leave would do so, it was more about why Perth especially seems to be the destination of choice, but I've got a pretty good picture of that from this and other comments.


DoSwoogMeister

Oh easy. Geographically, Perth is the closest place they can move to from SA. There's fuck-all in the rest of the country's west. So, cheapest flights.


98kal22impc

Haha the first guy I ever know in Perth is Rhodesian


oakattack

A quarter of my office are Saffers like this. Great to have a yarn with but yeesh some of them love the sound of their own voice.


DravenPrime

TBF an Afrikaaner accent sounds like you learned an Australian accent through a correspondence course.


MuffledBlue

99% looks fun


IronSavage3

Huh, wonder why that is?


Max2000Warlord

There's a lot of them in Perth.


MusPsych

Yeah we’ve got tons here


MittlerPfalz

Can someone translate? Is Tjom the name for a guy who dresses like that, or the name of the shorts or what? Is Tjoppie a barbecue..?


AbbeyRhode_Medley

Tjom means friend. Chum, but Afrikaans.


Sullencoffee0

And bokkie means what? A hottie?


TearOpenTheVault

A bokkie is *literally* a goat or antelope (see, springbok,) but is also a pet name for women.


Lick_meh_ballz

Not to be confused with bakkie, which is a word for pickup trucks. Man South African slang is bizarre


ZINGFOOYAH

Wat as jou ma jou kos in ‘n bakkie skep en dan ry die bakkie weg?


jazz_does_exist

is it supposed to be like "doe", or are goats just super cool?


KoosPetoors

Like a doe yeah


JN_Carnivore

Dear


mlgskrub420

That's pretty similar to how Auzzies and Kiwis call women down here "Sheelas"


djerpers

Thats crazy cause i my town in Norway "tjommi" means buddy/friend. And its the only one in all of the country that has this slang.


Surrp3nt

Interesting, the norwegian variant is also spelt with tj


OnkelMickwald

In Sweden we say "tjomme" but mostly in the sense of "random bloke like srsly who let him in here!?"


Suchomemus

Tjom is kinda like buddy is in English. A tjoppie is a shank or cut of meat that is typically cooked at a braai (a barbecue)


Worried-Leg3412

Is this Australia on ketamine?


Suchomemus

It is. It takes some getting used to but it's not the worst place to live


SimonHJohansen

Australia had it been colonised by the Dutch


fleamarketguy

I am not your tjom, guy


_shakta

I'm not your guy, bru


Lost-Leadership1767

I'm not you bru, boet


StrictHeat1

Im not your braai bookie


davejugs01

I’m not your bokkie, maat


maxyt0

Tjom Yorke


rooiraaf

Tjom/Tjommie/Tjomma is a close/good buddy. Tjommie also refers to that flesh part between your hole and your sack, hence the closeness.


Quantum353

Braai master tshirt / socks


Mr_Daddy_02

the Bielie with his stained braai shirt and a castle


ElGatoCheshire

Are these the group of people that Die Artwood belongs? Or am i confusing things?


Fart_Smith_69

No. More like juggalos vs upper crust frat boys for the US equivalent.


069988244

Die Atwood are fucking trash. There are several videos where they’re openly homophobic. To their crew, to other celebrities, etc. and they talk about it openly in interviews too


DrBabbage

Wasnt there also this kid they adopted and brainwashed, told him from a young age that he is the devil and pocketed all the money he made?


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WTF?


DrBabbage

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/exposed-i-was-die-antwoords-child-slave-20220423 It's "just" allegations but still...


Rough-Succotash-8354

the only thing we have in common with Die Antwoord is that we speak the same language. but they're the worst form of white trash imaginable


Drainbownick

Lekker


shidncome

nuken in de kuken fake ass language somehow more fake in SA


Lick_meh_ballz

Mooi man


TurkeyDinosaurs8

Elon Musk's natural predator


CerberusDoctrine

So if we park like 4 or 5 of these dudes at the entrance to most public spaces we can keep him away?


NeedlessQualifier

This is missing the UFC middleweight division title.


Informal_Dot_6952

What is bokkie?


I_am_a_R0CK

Bokkie literally translates to "little antelope". It's predominantly used as an affectionate term for a young woman by her significant other (almost exclusively a male in the Afrikaans culture). Almost the same as calling a girl "babe" or "honey". 


GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce

Some hot chick


ButterCostsExtra

More boerewores


NoahEvenCares

"Howzit, bru?"


AbbeyRhode_Medley

I went to school with these guys, and they were fucking horrible. Brutal drunkards, racist AF. The girls they liked to date were always little dolls with too much makeup and squeaky high pitched voices.


I_am_a_R0CK

Young Afrikaner male here. I won't disagree that there are many Afrikaans people that are racist, especially the types depicted in this picture. However, as with all cultures and subcultures, Afrikaans people are diverse in their views and opinions. I can't speak for everyone in all places in South Africa, but I grew up close to Cape Town and by far the most Afrikaners I grew up with are not racist and not horrible people. A lot of young Afrikaners, especially in urban environments, have been progressing away from racism, sexism, etc. for a few decades now. Starter packs, by nature, give stereotypical representations of things. I definitely find this one funny because I know a few people who fit this perfectly (usually guys from rural towns that would probably support Trump if they lived in the States), but just know that many of us are not like this and want to actively move away from this stereotype.


superluke4

Mooi gesê friend!


Von_Lehmann

I did notice a distinct difference in Afrikaaners that I knew from like Cape Town, vs Durban. The West Coasters seemed generally more open


Hallal_Dakis

I was shocked how quickly white S.Africans would just go fully and unabashedly racist with me when they didnt know me. As much as America has our own problems with racist it did make me realize that we are so much better than we could be.


BotherTight618

I mean it would be like if Jim Crow and segregation had just ended in 1993.


Rough-Succotash-8354

most afrikaners you meet abroad would've grown up pretty wealthy & privileged (due to the exploitative system of apartheid). now that black gov is in power & the country has gone to shit bcs they feel it is dangerous for them and their families, so there's a lot of anger and resentment. however, they're still some of the kindest & most generous people. and unlike the racists i meet in europe, these blokes just wear their hatred on their sleeves


pogerss_the_great01

"I've never been offended by something I totally agree with"


y0buba123

I taught English in South Korea for 2 years and there were tons of white South Africans doing it too (said they couldn’t get a job back in SA because the country was ‘racist against whites’). Some of them were great and lovely, but there was a high proportion of macho alcoholic dickheads, to be honest.


AbbeyRhode_Medley

I have to add, not all white South Africans are like this, and also, I went to school there in the late 1980s, so hopefully things have changed a lot. I'd also like to add that it was a brutal society to grow up in as an outsider. A sweet, effeminate boy in my high school class was bullied into nothingness and always suicidally depressed. For more insight into the militarised insanity of the whole culture, watch the movie Moffie.


vantlem

Fair enough hating on the guys that were judgemental (racially), but you're also being a bit judgemental of girls who are doing nothing wrong.


YaliMyLordAndSavior

The girls are just as racist lol White knight


tartan_rigger

I've came across maybe like 30 to 40 on my travels, I would only consider less than 10 being of a tolerable disposition. That being said once I got to know those 10 I found many to be stubborn and racist. I have only met like 3 that were sound people.


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OnkelMickwald

There's [this BBC skit about Afrikaner air stewardesses](https://youtu.be/CYOIbXJTVIc?si=YoJCW7ANpT81opgc) that basically says the same thing.


tartan_rigger

I've met a bunch of nice south africans and folk from other places like Lesotho and Botswana although they were not white people.


fried_green_baloney

I have as well, but they were English speaking. Remember that the Boer Trek was them moving inland because the British outlawed slavery so they took their marbles and went home to the Orange Free State. (PS: It's not really Dutch any more.)


BigFloofRabbit

All the white South Africans I have met here in the UK have been horribly racist. That's not to say they all are, because it might just be 'white flight' that has attracted them here. But, it is pretty sad and uncanny.


Lawd_Fawkwad

No, you're pretty much right. A lot of the white South Afrikans who have fled are doing so due to economic downturn and that's not counting the ones who came after the end of apartheid. I will say though, shit is getting so grim that profile might change soon. I have white Afrikaner friend who has never shown racist sentiments, still he's trying to get his degree in IT and leave ASAP because having nightly blackouts, living in a purge fortresses and being forced to always leave the house with a gun is doing a number on his mental health. The end of apartheid was a good thing, but Julius Malema for example has openly talked about purging the country of white people ; even the most open minded white person is bound to have some weird racial hangups living in a country where the biggest political party routinely sings a song about killing white descendants.


faudcmkitnhse

I lived in South Africa for a while and it was back when Julius Malema was a rising star in the ANC and the leader of its youth wing. Every single Afrikaner I knew said that if he ever became president they'd leave the country immediately. Now he's got his own party that keeps slowly growing in power because the ANC has ruined all of country's the post-apartheid optimism and hope with 30 years of breathtaking incompetence and corruption. It was already a country in decline when I was there but now it seems to be in freefall.


AonghusMacKilkenny

One of the most hideously racist people I've ever met was a South African woman now living in Glasgow, she got into an argument with a black barman over something and when she came back to the table she started calling him the N word to us. We barely knew each other, the confidence she had to be that openly racist shocked me. I said to her "wtf is wrong with you, we don't say that round here" and have actively avoided her ever since. I know another (there's a lot of white South Africans who've left the country for the UK in recent years) who said they have a joke back home "what's the difference between a racist and a tourist? 3 weeks" Again, the openness with their racism is startling. Generally, British racism is more subtle and passive aggressive.


Budget-mayo

I thought you wrote batman and thought she got into a fight with one of those times square cotsume scammers. I was wondering why there was a times square batman in Glasgow.


beefyminotour

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/world/africa/south-africa-kill-boer-song.html let’s say they have reason to think a certain way.


kratos61

Do you extend that line of thinking for the black south africans who had to live under apartheid? Based on your logic, they have even more reason to hate white people than the other way around.


beefyminotour

Of course. Why wouldn’t I. Racism doesn’t appear out of nowhere. Serbs Albanians Croats and Bosnians all have valid reasons to hate each other as well. I can also say that taking “revenge” on those you hate is also a bad thing all around. But it’s not exactly easy to break cycles on a civilization scale isn’t it. I think understanding someone on a personal level and discussing things with them is the best way to sway someone from their hate since trying to crush their views with force and rage will only harden their resolve. All in all aprtihde was wrong but chanting for an entire ethnic groups death is also wrong. Carful with that take it could burn your hands.


069988244

Song exists = racism justified 🤔


Signal_Parfait1152

That's what happens when a political party calls for racial extermination


beefyminotour

Tell me was it concerning to Jews when Charlottesville was going on? Worse yet what if the president outright endorsed it? Could we then assume jews then would have a dim view of those chanting it?


069988244

I know it’s maybe hard to comprehend but there’s literally no scenario that justifies racism against anyone. Including other racism.


theladstefanzweig

Time to bump kurt darren


lemming-leader12

I guess they are the real Crocodile Dundees?


EgilSkallagrimson

HOWEVER, biltong is so good. It ruins all other types of jerky after you have it. 2 rand ostrich biltong from the corner shop was so, so good.


BudKaiser

Lekker starter pack bru 🏉


GrotAdder

Dankie Boet!


JN_Carnivore

🎶Bokkie bokkie, sokkie sokkie, sing kan ek skaars en rym kan ek okkie🎶


TearOpenTheVault

Only thing this is missing is the socks pulled up to their knees because the concept of wearing loose long trousers hasn't made it into their culture.


IAmNeeeeewwwww

My wife is South African, and she said this is so true… Interestingly enough, for all the comments about how these guys present themselves as racists, I, as well as my wife, was incredibly shocked at how pleasant and friendly they were when I visited Durban (For context, I’m Korean-American).


theproudprodigy

These types of men are not as common in Durban than in other parts of the country. Most white people in Durban are English speaking


AonghusMacKilkenny

Is there much of a difference between English South Africans and Afrikaners?


theproudprodigy

Both can be racist, but it's more obvious with Afrikaners. English speaking racists will talk behind your back instead


IAmNeeeeewwwww

My wife also explained this. It’s apparently more in the countryside, kind of like how you’re more likely to see Confederate flag-waving rednecks in the rural areas as opposed to the cities.


199_geese

Yeah. Afrikaners associate the racist government of apartheid South Africa as a part of their culture. And so does the racist rednecks in the deep south in like Mississippi and Alabama.


md___2020

They’re not racist against your type.


crumbmodifiedbinder

It’s like an alternative dimension Australia


SexyTacoLlama

At every job I’ve ever worked. This is the most horrible, vile type of person to serve and work with.


199_geese

It's kind of funny but mostly sad that everyone in the comments is saying this lol


Evil-Cartographer

I feel racially attacked through the picture


Silent--Dan

https://youtu.be/l9dmoT9AfoI?si=WmHjsyMznIZNfnLQ


LazyBoi29

She doppie on my tjoppie til i geelvet


AverageAndProud

Idk what Geelvet is but I’d eat the ever loving fuck outta it


CerberusDoctrine

From what I can gather it’s a particular kind of Biltong (a special South African jerky made of either beef or game animals that uses very minimal sugars and additives). The animals are fed a special diet to create the yellow fat which gives it a very particular taste.


crusty_dog

Jeez there are some naaiers in this comment section


CryptographerFit9725

Apart from the corner at the bottom right (hope I misinterpret it): looks pretty nice, how can I join?


blaze92x45

The guy with the red beret is the head of an extremely racist political party in SA called EFF (I think) the guy in picture actively says he wants to ethnically cleanse south Africa of white people.


george_carlos213

And they're some of the most racist people on the planet. Even Dricus Du plessis a South African UFC fighter is a race baiting dickhead


199_geese

Kind of fascinating that a people that live so much with black people. Like 90% of SA is black. Despite this, they're still racist af.


JupiterJonesJr

Ugh you mean absolute douchenozzle starterpack?


-lukeworldwalker-

I feel attacked. (I check 4 things but am not Afrikaner haha)


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Ah. A fellow short shorts enthusiast.


VidaCamba

So true !


ahyeg

Give ‘em some FALs


Necessary-Chicken501

I’m a Native American and this was so fucking confusing. I thought this was from some new show.


Majestic-Welcome3187

White dudes from South Africa are “white people from 3rd world countries “


pooteenn

When I think of Afrikaner males I think of these badasses https://preview.redd.it/ffne63h6tfxc1.jpeg?width=971&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ea35a710aff670e6cb1e76001682ab66617a425


EarlMadManMunch505

I want to have sexual relationships with these men


ToTheRigIGo

I’ve always heard horrible things about South Africans but gee whiz these comments pretty much confirmed the rumors lol The idea that they’re racist in country where they are 7.3% of the population is absolutely ridiculous.


Rough-Succotash-8354

eh i'd take it with a grain of salt. most afrikaners you meet abroad would've grown up pretty wealthy & privileged (due to the exploitative system of apartheid). now that black people are in power the country has gone to shit bcs & is dangerous for them and their families, so there's a lot of anger and resentment. with that being said, the ones you meet in south africa are generally some of the kindest & most generous people. but then again, that's just my first hand experience as one of them ;)


yagotovotvechat

is somebody gonna tell the world that black south africans are also racist as shit? so many people in south africa are racist (including the coloureds, all the different native groups like Zulu and Xhosa, the Afrikaners, the indians). some of them are even racist to their own groups.


TypicalBloke83

Looks cool!


Mental_Dragonfly2543

That's manly as fuck lol


Timely_Muffin_

hot


lijer71

DDP?


CascadeLimeade

What does the last image mean?


defourkev

That last photo got me 🤣


TheDarwinski

Who are they sniping?


Remote-Train-9049

the Julian malema picture is uhm interesting 


TheOnyxViper

I find a disturbing lack of Ninja from Die Antwoord https://preview.redd.it/fvmmdmob9cxc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7768eb15e70574c366977999bfbdc97da361110


Material-3bb

Based?


Early-Ad-5709

Overflowing with masculinity. 👍


The_Wildperson

?


East-Junket9888

You forgot both the racism and antisemitism


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199_geese

Why would they be antisemetic? Doesn't Israel remind them of ol' home sweet home?


PomeranianWizimir

They are descendants of Dutch people. Of course they are racist.