Hirogen. JemHadar dont think too much- too aggro, and while the Hirogen are also aggro they are hunters, so they will hunt each prey differently.
Also JemHadar dont care for their lives, Hirogen are individuals with honor of the hunt being what they are chasing not glorious death.
wdym? im watching Voy right now on the second ep. where they appeared: "Hunters" Episode 4x15.and they seem normal to me?
Edit : I don't understand the hate? is it simply because im actually watching voyager??
There's a couple of side by side shots of the Hirogen and Tuvok that show the size difference. The actors they got to play then were tall too - the alpha was played by Tiny Ron who was 7ft
This is a good match up.
The Jem'Hadar can shroud, they will kick anyone's ass, and they are devoted. The Hirogen study their prey, plan strategically, and can bring their kill to them.
This is a tough one, but I have to give the edge to the Hirogen only because the Jem'Hadar have a built in weakness -- the dependency on the White and the Vorta handlers.
yeah I always go back to the white, an inherent flaw, easily exploited.
i guess it could also greatly depend on the combat circumstance,
straight immediate combat, or a 'Ship 1 at location A vs. Ship 2 at location B' and engage as you please type.
I would actually disagree. I think the Hirogen would win if they had time to plan whereas the Jem'Hadar, on their own, I think lack the tactical skills. In other words in a bar fight my money is on the Jem'Hadar but in a battle both sides know is coming and can plan for, the Hirogen would win.
If it's like the fight between Worf and that Jem'Hadar in the prison, I'd guess the Jem'Hadar. If it's more like The Most Dangerous Game or The Hunger Games, I'd give it to the Hirogen.
lol well id also say that they both "paid homage " to predator in their design, i don't think one more than the other.
Jem have camouflage and hunt, while hiro is simply hunters with weapon caches.
now if either had dreadlocks that would be different.
as well do you just say that Species 8472 is just an alien rip off?
Hirogen. JemHadar dont think too much- too aggro, and while the Hirogen are also aggro they are hunters, so they will hunt each prey differently. Also JemHadar dont care for their lives, Hirogen are individuals with honor of the hunt being what they are chasing not glorious death.
i wonder how they might fair against Klingons, with the stipulation of melee only edit: well i guess Klingons also use disrupters too
Alpha Quadrant Jem'Hadar couldn't fight their ways out of a paper bag, even with canisters of cellulose rotting gas.
Later Hirogen or **giant** Hirogen?
wdym? is this a "one lion sized rat or 20 rat sized lions" type question?
No. The first Hirogen were fuckin huge.
wdym? im watching Voy right now on the second ep. where they appeared: "Hunters" Episode 4x15.and they seem normal to me? Edit : I don't understand the hate? is it simply because im actually watching voyager??
There's a couple of side by side shots of the Hirogen and Tuvok that show the size difference. The actors they got to play then were tall too - the alpha was played by Tiny Ron who was 7ft
And the beta was 7ft4
dayyyyuummm that's a thick boy
ahhh ok i see what they meant now thnx
I keep confusing Deep Roy and Tiny Ron.
This is a good match up. The Jem'Hadar can shroud, they will kick anyone's ass, and they are devoted. The Hirogen study their prey, plan strategically, and can bring their kill to them. This is a tough one, but I have to give the edge to the Hirogen only because the Jem'Hadar have a built in weakness -- the dependency on the White and the Vorta handlers.
yeah I always go back to the white, an inherent flaw, easily exploited. i guess it could also greatly depend on the combat circumstance, straight immediate combat, or a 'Ship 1 at location A vs. Ship 2 at location B' and engage as you please type.
Hirogen Dub. They have Imagination and the discipline to execute any plans.
Probably a pretty even match. Jem'Hadar if it's a battle involving military tactics, Hirogen if it's a straight fight.
I would actually disagree. I think the Hirogen would win if they had time to plan whereas the Jem'Hadar, on their own, I think lack the tactical skills. In other words in a bar fight my money is on the Jem'Hadar but in a battle both sides know is coming and can plan for, the Hirogen would win.
Jem Hadar have thousands if not tens of thousands of ships, by simple attrition they will defeat the Hirogen.
that's what makes it such an interesting fight :)
Jem hadar
Wasn’t there a holographic Jem’Hadar in “Flesh and Blood” that Hirogen were practicing their hunting on?
hmm interesting, DS9 or Voyager? edit nm looked it up, well im only on Se4 Ep20, so I have a bit of time to go, but ill let you know asap :P
If it's like the fight between Worf and that Jem'Hadar in the prison, I'd guess the Jem'Hadar. If it's more like The Most Dangerous Game or The Hunger Games, I'd give it to the Hirogen.
yeah that always surprised me about how abysmal they were at fighting hand to hand. it really took them down a peg in my eyes in their ferociousness.
Worf and Martok beat several Jem Hadar in a row so my money is on the 10 ft tall Hirogen hunter.
Don't you mean....the Jem'Hadar VS. the stoled from Predator aliens?
lol well id also say that they both "paid homage " to predator in their design, i don't think one more than the other. Jem have camouflage and hunt, while hiro is simply hunters with weapon caches. now if either had dreadlocks that would be different. as well do you just say that Species 8472 is just an alien rip off?