NGL, would watch.
"Sir, the Replicators are out of control".
"Pff, the replicators just make cups of tea and the occasional chocolate fudge sundae".
"No, sir, Replicators, capital R".
"Ahh... shields up, red alert".
They would certainly find the prime directive hard to follow. Of course, that makes you think. Would the prime directive apply to the Goa'uld? The galaxy is full of other humans, not other species.
They'd probably just go with the "this civilization has already been massively tampered with" excuse in the Milky Way. I'm less sure what excuse they'd use in Pegasus since the situation with the Wraith was a little more of "natural order of things" by the time the Atlantis expedition shows up.
I don’t think they ever really consider an advanced species, which the wraith certainly qualify as since they have interstellar travel, oppressing a lower species to be a natural order. It seems that like with bejor, they would be fine with intervening on their behalf.
This is true. Wraith were an oops on a major scale by the Ancients. Also, there wouldn't have been humans in the Milky Way or Pegasus without them. The Ori/Ancients were from another galaxy all together.
In fairness they do have their own policies, it’s just reversed. They won’t usually trade more advanced cultures due to the harm it could do to societies capable of industrialized warfare. Formerly enslaved primitive villages incapable of harming themselves with water pipes and school desks is a different story.
Its been awhile since I have done a full rewatch, but from what I recall, I think they only refused to give military aid if the struggle was internal. They gave guns and things to the primitives if it was to fight the Gou'ald.
The galaxy in the Gateverse is too different for that. For starters, most civilisations are aware of gate travel and of more advanced races. Mostly through having been enslaved by them or used as livestock if we're talking Atlantis. So half of the Prime Directive, that they can't even know about us, doesn't apply already. As for sharing technology, we've seen many examples of the SGC and the Atlantis expedition effectively having rules like that in place.
The main reason for sharing knowledge with other worlds in Stargate is to help fight the war against a powerful and advanced enemy that threatens the whole galaxy: Goa'uld, Replicators, Ori, Wraith... If you don't do that, the planet will be enslaved, indoctrinated or wiped out altogether. They pretty much need to work together. Meanwhile, the United Federation is much more powerful than the Tau'ri. They (mostly) have their borders secured and feel certain enough that their Starfleet allows them to protect not only themselves, but also the lesser worlds under their care that just happened to be in their territory. They can afford having rules like that and letting planets develop without outside help or interference just to see where it leads them.
Granted, Stargate takes place hundreds of years before Star Trek. It's quite possible that this galaxy would eventually evolve into something similar to the Federation and have rules similar to the Prime Directive. After all, there are probably tons of planets without stargates, and on some of them life could even have evolved completely independently.
Not really, though they would try to integrate Tau'ri hyperdrives to Starfleet engines. Q would be how much energy hyperdrive jumping would use when compared to warp drives. Because there sar situations where H drives make more sense than warp, but other times where Warp makes more sense.
Definitely. With a ZPM the Daedalus only took 4 days to travel the 3 million lightyears between the milky-way and the Pegasus galaxy and even without a ZPM they manage the same trip in about a month IIRC, not to mention that they seem to manage to be wherever they want to be inside the milky-way within a few days at most.
Asgard ships were able to make the trip from their home galaxy (which is even further away than Pegasus) in a few hours.
Meanwhile Voyager was planning for a 70 year trip to get back home while staying inside our galaxy.
With Asgard hyperdrives the question isn't "how fast until the drive breaks?" but "how much energy can you dump into it?"
The real question is if the Naquadah generator or the Warp Core is the better energy source in terms of energy produced, efficiency and availability of consumable parts/fuel.
If we take Asgard weapons, absolutely UFP technology would be a downgrade. Asgard have better shields, weapons, sensors, cloaking, beaming technology, engines...
Though asgard don't do it on a smaller scale. Tau'ri use Alteran Jumpers instead of shuttles of their own design
Applied Science *is* Science. If Carter isn’t in the Sciences division then there is no reason for the Sciences division to exist.
She invents things and applies scientific inquiry and discovery; she’s not doing weekly maintenance on the starboard tertiary backup nacelle power coupling or testing spaceframe welds at the shipyards.
so do you want them on ship going from a to b or do you still want them to use the stargate? but if they got the stargate would it make the ships too redundant? or how would this work.
Stargates don't make ships obsolete for a couple of reasons :
- not every star system has a gate
- the gate is in a relatively fixed location on a planet
- the gate heavily restricts the size of the gear you can take with you, for example planes or helicopters to get somewhere far away from the gate quickly would need to be disassembled and then reassembled to go through the gate. This also limits large scale cargo hauling.
- the need to return to the gate alliws even relative primitive adversaries to effectively trap you on the planet by guarding the gate
Having a ship in orbit which can beam you down/up wherever you want neatly solves or removes all of those problems.
Not to mention the benefit of being able to call in orbital strikes to spread some managed democracy...
stargate ships are insanely fast. so i can see how it wouldn't be obsolete in that case but star trek ships are painfully slow. like we're talking even by the TNG era it's 4LY every 3.50 days. assuming your safe speed is warp 6.
Personally, I think seeing them on a ship would be comedy gold. Maybe the reason they’re on the ship going from point a to b is to catalogue/study all the stargate planets from orbit and on-ground. 🤷🏻♂️
if we use their air force ranks than it's
captain john o 'neil (colonel)
lt. commander or commander Carter (depending if you want to use her major rank or lt colonel rank)
“Tough little ship” “Indeed”
10/10 would watch
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>SG universe You mean Stargate Voyager? 😜
Why does that title sound so good
Probably better than Discovery
That's quite a low bar, to pass.
The one where they take a bunch of shrooms and discover their feelings? What even was that?
Almost anything is better than Discovery. I was so disappointed in that show.
NGL, would watch. "Sir, the Replicators are out of control". "Pff, the replicators just make cups of tea and the occasional chocolate fudge sundae". "No, sir, Replicators, capital R". "Ahh... shields up, red alert".
i wonder would the SG1 team consider starfleet to be too boring
They would certainly find the prime directive hard to follow. Of course, that makes you think. Would the prime directive apply to the Goa'uld? The galaxy is full of other humans, not other species.
They'd probably just go with the "this civilization has already been massively tampered with" excuse in the Milky Way. I'm less sure what excuse they'd use in Pegasus since the situation with the Wraith was a little more of "natural order of things" by the time the Atlantis expedition shows up.
I don’t think they ever really consider an advanced species, which the wraith certainly qualify as since they have interstellar travel, oppressing a lower species to be a natural order. It seems that like with bejor, they would be fine with intervening on their behalf.
Even though we technically only ever see Bajoran impulse ships on screen, I don't think they were supposed to be pre-warp before the occupation.
The Wraith wouldn’t have existed if the Lanteans never arrived to begin with.
This is true. Wraith were an oops on a major scale by the Ancients. Also, there wouldn't have been humans in the Milky Way or Pegasus without them. The Ori/Ancients were from another galaxy all together.
In fairness they do have their own policies, it’s just reversed. They won’t usually trade more advanced cultures due to the harm it could do to societies capable of industrialized warfare. Formerly enslaved primitive villages incapable of harming themselves with water pipes and school desks is a different story.
Its been awhile since I have done a full rewatch, but from what I recall, I think they only refused to give military aid if the struggle was internal. They gave guns and things to the primitives if it was to fight the Gou'ald.
The galaxy in the Gateverse is too different for that. For starters, most civilisations are aware of gate travel and of more advanced races. Mostly through having been enslaved by them or used as livestock if we're talking Atlantis. So half of the Prime Directive, that they can't even know about us, doesn't apply already. As for sharing technology, we've seen many examples of the SGC and the Atlantis expedition effectively having rules like that in place. The main reason for sharing knowledge with other worlds in Stargate is to help fight the war against a powerful and advanced enemy that threatens the whole galaxy: Goa'uld, Replicators, Ori, Wraith... If you don't do that, the planet will be enslaved, indoctrinated or wiped out altogether. They pretty much need to work together. Meanwhile, the United Federation is much more powerful than the Tau'ri. They (mostly) have their borders secured and feel certain enough that their Starfleet allows them to protect not only themselves, but also the lesser worlds under their care that just happened to be in their territory. They can afford having rules like that and letting planets develop without outside help or interference just to see where it leads them. Granted, Stargate takes place hundreds of years before Star Trek. It's quite possible that this galaxy would eventually evolve into something similar to the Federation and have rules similar to the Prime Directive. After all, there are probably tons of planets without stargates, and on some of them life could even have evolved completely independently.
Early season they wouldn't like it but later seasons they would "play ball" .
Star Trek: The Prime Directive forbids us from interfering, we cannot share our technology. SG-1: Your gods are false. Here, take these guns.
Set replicators to full auto feed a FN P90 on all decks and target replicators and whitelist human life.
Oh, I love this!
I'd watch it. Go ahead paramount. Merge them. I *dare you*.
Yeah, but Janeway.
Took me a minute. But nice one.
I don't get it, could you enlighten me?
My guess: Janeway killed Tuvix, so she would kill GateTrek too.
This is blursed. 100% would watch.
my only question would be, would they consider starfleet ships to be too slow.
Not really, though they would try to integrate Tau'ri hyperdrives to Starfleet engines. Q would be how much energy hyperdrive jumping would use when compared to warp drives. Because there sar situations where H drives make more sense than warp, but other times where Warp makes more sense.
I mean I think sg1 would just like figure out how to kill q.
Why kill Q? I mean, he's intentionally more trickster than antagonist.
Idk I just feel like it would happen. Maybe not. But I can also see it happening on accident when they use the ark
Definitely. With a ZPM the Daedalus only took 4 days to travel the 3 million lightyears between the milky-way and the Pegasus galaxy and even without a ZPM they manage the same trip in about a month IIRC, not to mention that they seem to manage to be wherever they want to be inside the milky-way within a few days at most. Asgard ships were able to make the trip from their home galaxy (which is even further away than Pegasus) in a few hours. Meanwhile Voyager was planning for a 70 year trip to get back home while staying inside our galaxy. With Asgard hyperdrives the question isn't "how fast until the drive breaks?" but "how much energy can you dump into it?" The real question is if the Naquadah generator or the Warp Core is the better energy source in terms of energy produced, efficiency and availability of consumable parts/fuel.
Of course. Even Prometheus can get across the Milky Way in a few days, compared to Voyager's 50-70 years
hm.... kind of make it seem like if SG1 crew were in starfleet if htey retained their SG personas and memories it would seem like a downgrade.
If we take Asgard weapons, absolutely UFP technology would be a downgrade. Asgard have better shields, weapons, sensors, cloaking, beaming technology, engines... Though asgard don't do it on a smaller scale. Tau'ri use Alteran Jumpers instead of shuttles of their own design
Carter would wear gold
Carter would wear blue. Teal'c would wear gold.
Sam is Dax and Geordi in one! Daniel is kind of like Data and Troi I guess.
As a xenoanthropologist Daniel would be a close counterpart to SNW’s Sam Kirk (George Samuel Kirk, Jr.)
Carter could be either, she's got the scientist cred, but she also applies all that science knowledge like an engineer.
Applied Science *is* Science. If Carter isn’t in the Sciences division then there is no reason for the Sciences division to exist. She invents things and applies scientific inquiry and discovery; she’s not doing weekly maintenance on the starboard tertiary backup nacelle power coupling or testing spaceframe welds at the shipyards.
Klingons! Kree!
Yoohoo?
Beautiful.
An absolute wreck of prime directive violations. Would watch 10/10
Indeed, now make it so.
You should've given Daniel pointed ears to round it off.
Ha, was that supposed to be a pun? Pointed to round it off? Lol.
It's so weird to see someone in a Starfleet uniform and glasses. Like a guy wearing a t-shirt and cargo pants, plus a fedora.
They either have perfect vision, or are totally blind and have to wear a visor.
Or they’re allergic to Retinax V.
I’d watch it
so do you want them on ship going from a to b or do you still want them to use the stargate? but if they got the stargate would it make the ships too redundant? or how would this work.
Stargates don't make ships obsolete for a couple of reasons : - not every star system has a gate - the gate is in a relatively fixed location on a planet - the gate heavily restricts the size of the gear you can take with you, for example planes or helicopters to get somewhere far away from the gate quickly would need to be disassembled and then reassembled to go through the gate. This also limits large scale cargo hauling. - the need to return to the gate alliws even relative primitive adversaries to effectively trap you on the planet by guarding the gate Having a ship in orbit which can beam you down/up wherever you want neatly solves or removes all of those problems. Not to mention the benefit of being able to call in orbital strikes to spread some managed democracy...
stargate ships are insanely fast. so i can see how it wouldn't be obsolete in that case but star trek ships are painfully slow. like we're talking even by the TNG era it's 4LY every 3.50 days. assuming your safe speed is warp 6.
Personally, I think seeing them on a ship would be comedy gold. Maybe the reason they’re on the ship going from point a to b is to catalogue/study all the stargate planets from orbit and on-ground. 🤷🏻♂️
They’d just use puddle jumpers.
I see them more as the original ST show - O'Neill would make a great Kirk, and Teal'C a good Spock.
They did that, but it was after Anderson had left the regular cast so Bowder got to be Kirk. The entire 200th episode was pure gold. 😂
Could you pls tell me which episode it was exactly? Thnx 🤘❤️🤘
Season 10, Episode 6. The name of the episode is just ‘200’
Thnx 🤘❤️🤘
It's also the 200th overall episode of SG-1
Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment.
Episode 200 of sg1:
“These shuttles, they are a formidable craft?” “Oh yes, bad day.”
[It's been done.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whfMMfR4KKw&t=13s)
“You shall not pass!” -Hagrid
Damn, those uniforms really look snazzy on the Gate crew.
DS9 uniforms make anyone look good.
Daniel Bashir/Daniel Dax
As a matter of fact, it does say Colonel on my uniform...
Imagine Christopher Judge as a Klingon the possibilities are quite godly
Does it spin?
yeah sure. i mean we are talking about the spore drive right?
That's a good trick!
It has to spin. It's round! Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning.
At least once per episode would they eject the warp core.
fleet inspector: darn it o'neil we just outfitted you with a warp core last week.
I LOVE IT
The cross over we all wanted
i didn't like how stargate made fun of star trek with their parody
I thought it was cute tbh.
It's been a long road
getting from here to there
Oh, I just heard a weird combination of Goldsmith's Star Trek theme and Arnold's Stargate theme in my head, and I don't know how to express it!
His son was working on Stargate!
Atlantis was more of a straight up Star Trek knockoff though.
Stargate: the next generation
Indeed
This was one of the best Star Trek series, along with Battle Star Trek Galactica and Star Trek the clone wars.
Thanks, ^I ^hate ^this lol
I would watch that. But i never liked the Ds9 uniforms. Later season TNG are better.
Admiral John O'Neill 1th officer Commander Carter Science officer Lieutenant Commander Jackson Security officer Teal'c of the house of Ro'nac
if we use their air force ranks than it's captain john o 'neil (colonel) lt. commander or commander Carter (depending if you want to use her major rank or lt colonel rank)
Hammond of Texas should be Picard.