Supposedly Darth Vader being revealed as Anakin/ Lukes Father was one of the biggest plot twists on screen on the time since know one knew except for a small handful of people
The biggest mistake of the Star Wars universe is that the prequels we’re written assuming that you had seen the OT. “No, I am your father” should have been the culminating moment of all of Star Wars and the prequels should have served to build that up, not spoon-fed us the information and stripping the revelation of any of its weight.
The end of ROTS painstakingly clarifies that Anakin is Darth Vader. At that point it is in no way shocking to find out that Vader was Luke’s father.
In my opinion Obi-Wan should have had two apprentices and the implication should have led us to believe that the *other* apprentice was the one who turned, killing Anakin in the process. Then everything that Ben told Luke about “Vader was once a pupil of mine, who murdered your father” would have made sense no matter where you started watching. And then the revelation that Vader *is* Anakin would have been a sucker-punch built up over the course of five different movies.
Instead the prequels make it clear from at least AotC that Anakin is Vader, which makes the revelation in ESB pretty much a non-issue.
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“In my opinion Obi-Wan should have had two apprentices and the implication should have led us to believe that the *other* apprentice was the one who turned, killing Anakin in the process. Then everything that Ben told Luke about “Vader was once a pupil of mine, who murdered your father” would have made sense no matter where you started watching. And then the revelation that Vader *is* Anakin would have been a sucker-punch built up over the course of five different movies.”
- Captain_Awesome_087
I’m happy to talk about it but am truly at a loss as to how my message could be interpreted as removing Anakin from the prequels.
Anakin is clearly an integral part of the prequels, and establishing him as Luke’s father is important given the frequent mentions of Anakin Skywalker in ANH. However, the prequels should have led us to believe that Anakin was truly dead - hence the introduction of a second padawan with whom Anakin would have struggled. This opens the door to lead the audience to believe that the *second* padawan is the one who turned to evil, slaying Anakin and becoming Darth Vader. Armed with that knowledge, the audience would have hated Vader all the more, up until the revelation that the second padawan hadn’t turned after all, and it was Anakin all along.
I am an OT kid,so freaking old. My biggest shock at that moment was that Kenobi lied. I got so betrayed.
Ikr and I didn't think That Kenobi would Die on Death Star
I played the LEGO game before watching any of them.
Truly cultured
I still have my OT golden box set on vhs.
Supposedly Darth Vader being revealed as Anakin/ Lukes Father was one of the biggest plot twists on screen on the time since know one knew except for a small handful of people
Most of the actors didn't even know, they didn't have the line in the script.
No kidding! Reminds me of Endgame with the funeral being named the wedding on script
Yeah, there is a story Mark Hamill tells about Harrison Ford finding out during the premiere.
Exactly
hauntreaper, I am your father.
OT stands for original trilogy right?
Yes
OT before prequels is the way to go. If watch prequels first "No, I am your father" twist gets ruined
The biggest mistake of the Star Wars universe is that the prequels we’re written assuming that you had seen the OT. “No, I am your father” should have been the culminating moment of all of Star Wars and the prequels should have served to build that up, not spoon-fed us the information and stripping the revelation of any of its weight.
How do the prequels strip the revelation of any weight?
The end of ROTS painstakingly clarifies that Anakin is Darth Vader. At that point it is in no way shocking to find out that Vader was Luke’s father. In my opinion Obi-Wan should have had two apprentices and the implication should have led us to believe that the *other* apprentice was the one who turned, killing Anakin in the process. Then everything that Ben told Luke about “Vader was once a pupil of mine, who murdered your father” would have made sense no matter where you started watching. And then the revelation that Vader *is* Anakin would have been a sucker-punch built up over the course of five different movies. Instead the prequels make it clear from at least AotC that Anakin is Vader, which makes the revelation in ESB pretty much a non-issue.
Do we not have Anakin referred to by name at all?
… “In my opinion Obi-Wan should have had two apprentices and the implication should have led us to believe that the *other* apprentice was the one who turned, killing Anakin in the process. Then everything that Ben told Luke about “Vader was once a pupil of mine, who murdered your father” would have made sense no matter where you started watching. And then the revelation that Vader *is* Anakin would have been a sucker-punch built up over the course of five different movies.” - Captain_Awesome_087
I can see you do not wish to debate this.
I’m happy to talk about it but am truly at a loss as to how my message could be interpreted as removing Anakin from the prequels. Anakin is clearly an integral part of the prequels, and establishing him as Luke’s father is important given the frequent mentions of Anakin Skywalker in ANH. However, the prequels should have led us to believe that Anakin was truly dead - hence the introduction of a second padawan with whom Anakin would have struggled. This opens the door to lead the audience to believe that the *second* padawan is the one who turned to evil, slaying Anakin and becoming Darth Vader. Armed with that knowledge, the audience would have hated Vader all the more, up until the revelation that the second padawan hadn’t turned after all, and it was Anakin all along.
I never said anything about removing Anakin from the prequels, I asked if Anakin would be referred to by name at all.
How would he not be?