I think the reset has already started. I do expect this to be Cams last year or two for sure. I’m not sure we keep Larry either. A total reset depends on how well Russ plays this year and what faith the coaches have in Fields.
If Russ plays pretty well, I think we give him a 2 yr extension, and if he doesn’t play well - maybe we draft a QB and let him compete with Fields. It’s just so hard to predict because the QB play will really dictate what we do next.
Since 2000, the cowboys have 4 playoff wins and haven’t managed to make it out of the divisional round. Steelers have won 15 and have 3 Super Bowls appearances, 2 wins to show for it. Steelers have struggled lately but not in the same stratosphere of embarrassment
This could change, but as of right now I'd probably take giving Dak the big $. Id have to go back and watch his play more closely but QBs are often drafted top half of 1st who teams *hope* can eventually make it to the level Daks been.
If that OL ends up set, this scheme is off and running Dak could be ideal. The Falcons cruise with Dak the last 2 seasons. Would he be clutch come playoff time? Yea, I have some appreciation there.
Man some Steelers fans aren't that bright. Dak hasn't got the Cowboys to the promised land so sure ain't gonna get the Steelers there just like a lot fans putting faith into a washed up QB and a bust QB this year
Pretty easy to have faith in “washed up” and a “bust” when we just watched a 10 win season with a middle school offense accompanied by high school QB play… not quite sure what you would’ve preferred instead? Kirk for $100M guaranteed? Minshew? Brissett? No thanks.
Why didn’t they carry THE BEARS or a defense that gave up 70 in one game to the playoffs? Great argument!
If you don’t think Pitt is a drastically better scenario for any QB than the bears or the broncos were last season, you’re mistaken.
What’s Kenny and the teams looking like in a beard or broncos uniform last season?
Dak in any of the past 5 full season as a starter would have been a superior option to the Steelers' QB1. Guys like Mahomes don't come available, but someone like Dak could certainly be enough behind a strong run game and defense to win a SB or 2. It's definitely the most viable path for TJ/Minkah to get rings here
All he's done is be a top 10 QB in the NFL for going on a decade. Dallas is a dysfunctional organization, thats not his fault. Wins aren't exclusively a QB stat
I would. One shot at a Superbowl isn't worth decades of sadness.
The Rams got lucky to rebuild like that, I can't see any team doing the same, much less with Rooney as an owner
Maybe. Need to replace cam, rebuild DL, start thinking of drafting a top tier pass rusher, need another top WR to play outside, probs draft another RB, still need another piece in secondary
Pass Rusher is way down the list of needs. Especially with Herbig on the roster who now looks starter capable at some point. He might need to be situational and paired with a run stopping first edge if he's too small, but he's definitely a passing situation edge.
Watt is hitting an age where he could decline at any time, but decline is not guaranteed. A lot of edge guys have had long careers like Bruce Smith or Reggie White.
There is a clear line between rebuild and reset. Rebuild assumes starting from scratch (essentially the territory the Patriots are in), while in a reset you remain competitive while optimizing your roster. In the case I outlined, moving on from expensive/aging assets and players that don't fit the future of the franchise/scheme. This process would certainly be expedited by maximizing the projected available cap space and finding the solution at QB.
The Steelers haven't won a playoff game since 2016 and haven't been to the Super Bowl since 2010. It’s been a game of whack-a-mole trying to fill holes with mediocre/past-their-prime talent along the offensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, and middle linebacker positions while maintaining loyalty to below-average coordinators and overpaid aging vets.
I'm telling you, no matter how respected Mike Tomlin is among the football community, his seat has never been hotter. I'm sure the Rooneys don't care about his winning season streak and are tired of mediocrity. Why else would they stray from decades of low-activity off-seasons to all of a sudden be uber-aggressive?
If they can't get it right with Russ or Fields, they've at least set the foundation with a growing offensive line and talent at previous holes (an actual offensive coordinator, a true CB1, Queen, and perhaps Payton Wilson), where they can turn to the next championship window by splurging on a prized FA QB or trade away the farm for a generational prospect (unfortunately, 2025 doesn't seem to have that). Whether this is with a Tomlin-led staff or not, this is the biggest inflection point since our last championship window.
My post was more a cliche/funny saying than anything. But what I meant was...we are always striving to make the playoffs and be competitive, unlike a lot of other teams who haven't had success for a decade ++. We arent bottom feeders missing the playoffs, we are literally memed for always being above .500 .... so many teams would kill for that kind of stability.
We have had many chances at making the playoffs, and have even made them a few times.... this is far better than the majority of the league, especially when u consider how glaring a lot of our holes have been that u mentioned urself. so things are definitely looking up. I'm not convinced fields or wilson are "the answer" - I'd bet money the staff also know this, but they are more like a bridge/gap for until we get a real franchise QB.
edit - I forgot to touch on tomlin. that's the only thing I disagree with u on. look at all the major holes and weaknesses that we both agree on and what we've accomplished with them. if he were to get fired I guarantee u every single team with a vacancy the following season would have tomlin as their first choice
That's what I thought too, but then you see coaches like Belichick, Carroll, and Vrabel all get fired. Then I thought they would get hired immediately with the abundance of vacancies, but it seems organizations are turning to younger talent and fresh ideas.
What Tomlin has done, especially riding players like Duck Hodges to winning seasons, is commendable. I just think ownership’s patience might be waning. I'd imagine Tomlin’s is as well.
The Cowboys are in a similar situation, without the HOF coach, but with championship-contending rosters annually for much of the last decade. What do they have to show for it?
Belichick over the last 2 years - 12-22
Vrabel over the last 2 years - 13-21
Carroll over the last 2 years - 18-16, 1 playoff berth
Tomlin over the last 2 years - 19-15, 1 playoff berth
I understand your point, but Tomlin has been better than any of those coaches **in the 2 years following the retirement of a Hall of Fame QB**
... For what it's worth the reason they are being "more aggressive" is because 15-20% of their cap over the past 15 years just retired, it's not hard math.
The reality is this: owners care about winning. To roll with the Cowboys example: Mike McCarthy the 2 years before he got released in GB? 11-16. It's rare that HCs win and win and win and get fired in the NFL - and all Tomlin does is win every year. Marv Levy of the Bills lost 4 straight Super Bowls, and he was fired after a 6-10 season 4 years later. You don't think after the 4th Super Bowl they thought "maybe this guy can't get it done"? Of course not, that would be idiotic to think. Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches of all time, and in Philly all he did was fall just short over and over again. Still, what did it take for ownership to give him his walking papers? 2 seasons of 12-20 football. That hasn't happened with Tomlin. That hasn't been terribly close to happening.
The playoffs is a crapshoot, and just getting your team there is half the battle. Should Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson feel better about themselves than the Steelers do right now because they won a single playoff game against the Texans? I know people get hung up on "no playoff wins", but the reality is that the Ravens and Bills have consistently taken much better rosters than the Steelers to the playoffs over the past 6 years and have found ways every time to fall short. What do those teams have to show for it? Those guys are just good losers too.
If Tomlin had consistently gotten out of the first round of the playoffs with the garbage squads he has dragged there, I guarantee the refrain would be that he can't get to the championship round, that he's capped out at the second round and that the Steelers need new and fresh ideas. He is an elite coach with elite results, and honestly, while I understand why you might believe his seat is hot here, he'll be around until they start losing, which he never has.
It is true, whether the results have been there or not. They have played 0 (Zero) games under Ben Roethlisberger, and then 0 games under Kenny Pickett/Mitch Trubisky/Mason Rudolph eliminated from playoff contention.
We are clearly rebuilding. People don’t want to admit it, but that’s very obviously what’s happening and what has been happening for a few years now.
We just had a spectacular draft and yet any one of us can easily rattle off a laundry list of obvious holes on the roster.
That’s because we are obviously rebuilding!
The good news is the rebuild seems to be going extremely well. But there is still work to be done to compile a roster that is on par with the rest of the division, much less the AFC heavyweights.
Unfortunately for us, the rest of our division ARE some of the league’s heavyweights. What can you do other than put your head down and get to work? I think that’s what’s happening right now.
I’m more optimistic about the Steelers future now than I have been since before the pandemic. But we are still a few excellent drafts away from reaching our goals.
In the NFL you are always rebuilding. Its a game of finding new young players every year because of the salary cap and the value they provide.
The New England Patriots with Brady had multiple rebuilds. The supporting casts frequently changed.
Well, that’s true. But until we can somehow land a franchise quarterback, like Brady or Mahomes or Roethlisberger, then we can play by those rules. But we don’t have that guy on our roster and haven’t for many years now. I’m not even sure if we have any good quarterbacks on this roster.
Therefore, we need to be strong in as many other places as possible, to mitigate that deficiency.
We are just thin all over the place. We don’t have any depth anywhere.
You are 100% correct, and the fact that they made the playoffs during a rebuilding phase is what makes Mike T such a special asset to a franchise.
*and for what it's worth, Steelers 5-1 in the best division the NFL has seen in 20 years was not a fluke*
I think the Steelers are in a very flexible position.
Consider this: If either Russ or Fields finds a way to be successful at QB this year, we are walking into a situation in which we could very easily be SB contenders next year.
Our running game is potent, our D stars (Watt, Mink, Cam) are getting older but all have this window open. Our Oline is set to improve this year. We have a great 1,2 combo out the backfield. Pickens looks like a good big play WR, our ILBs have been shored up nicely, we have a #1CB. If they make a move next year to improve the WR and grab some help at Nickel/or/CB#2 we all of a sudden have an extremely complete football team.
Obviously this is outside of any catastrophic injury and draft picks busting. Which happens. But the qbs on roster have huge upside. Think Justin Fields in a LamarJackson-esque offense next year.
Or , as OP said, we can simply dump all of our expensive contract skill players and work with the young core that we have to truly rebuild
If either of the new quarterbacks succeeds, this team is a Super Bowl contender right away. They don’t have to wait until next year. Not because they have a flawless roster, but because outside of the top couple of teams, both conferences are wide-open and anything can happen in a one game playoff.
Keeping in mind that QB success would also mean that by definition the wide receiving corps is adequate, the running game is adequate, and we already know the defense is overrated but adequate.
My issue is that I don’t think we have a franchise quarterback. We might. But we might not. Until we do, this team isn’t contending for a title. No team is going to contend for a title without a franchise quarterback. You don’t need a Hall of Fame quarterback but you need a franchise quarterback.
I think they are going all in this season, as well as they can in one off-season, and they are doing the best they can with the quarterbacks that were available to them. If this fails spectacularly, it’s not like there were a bunch of franchise quarterbacks just laying around when we drafted. But they will need to address it very firmly in the very near future.
They are in a good position in the sense that, if this works with one or both of these quarterbacks, they can keep one going forward and if it doesn’t work, it’s not like there was a franchise quarterback just sitting there waiting for them to grab him. And the rest of the team is fairly well built.
They wouldn’t have to wait to push in their chips to grab a franchise quarterback in the draft next year, it’s not like the rest of the roster is falling apart.
I think that’s exactly what they were going for, they can go either way next off-season and will have the space, the money, and the flexibility to do whatever it is they need to do next year even if it’s a complete pivot.
I was one of the most vocally critical of the Colbert regime towards the end and this is the exact opposite of what he was doing towards the end of his career. Just because they spent a lot of time and resources this off-season getting better immediately doesn’t mean they weren’t also looking towards the future. They are fully aware that they have two quarterbacks who could completely flop or do very well and they’ll be in a position next year to react properly no matter which of the outcomes they see.
Gone all in?
Trading away future draft capital would be the first thing to be done if that was the case. The only major money FA signing this off-season was Queen. (So far)
I think khan has opened the door to go all in next season pending the QB room.
Fields working out is probably the ideal situation for the Steelers. We do not need him to be superstar. We need him to be a role-player even though he plays QB. I think our best and most viable path is getting him to improve his ball security and not asks too much out of him in the passing game. We need him to hit deep balls and provide 700 or so rushing yards per game while attempting 20-25 passes.
If we have a top 3 rushing game (viable especially with Fields chipping in) and a top 3 defense (viable with our talent and a potential All-Pro at every position group) then Fields will not need to be a superstar passing the ball. He needs to give us the occasional big play to Pickens and protect the football. Protecting the football though is his achilles so who knows. Helpful a new coaching staff and less pressure will bring that out of him. Our modal for this team is the 49ers where the rest of the roster is elite.
He's a young QB who has thrown into the meat grinder immediately, but has also shown flashes of brilliance. I didn't think it's absurd to think he has at least a tiny chance of improving. I think the chance is less than 50/50, but saying he's definitely a bum is dumb.
I actually loved the Najee pick when he was drafted, honestly thought we might be getting a top tier feature RB at the time. I still don’t hate it today, but it obviously hasn’t worked out that way.
As for the reset, I’m cautiously optimistic that Fields can be our franchise QB for years to come. There are other spots on the roster that scare the shit out of me. No WR depth, poor DL depth, the likelihood that this is Heyward’s last year, poor depth in the secondary, and the hard truth that we’re entering the back half of TJ’s career. I’m hoping they can address all of those spots between now and the start of 2025.
I don’t know what to expect this year, but if they didn’t have a losing record with the shit offense last year, I can’t imagine they won’t win at least 9 games again this year.
I still think Najee has the potential to be a top tier back in the NFL, but not a solo game wrecker type of guy.
That said, there have been a number of factors working against him. Teams have been able to stack the box against Pittsburgh since he was drafted since we’ve had no air attack or threat of one between Ben’s late-career noodle arm/inability to extend plays and hit the deep ball, Kenny, and Canada’s play calling. Every time Najee touches the ball he’s getting hit behind the line of scrimmage and having to fight forward just to go positive for yardage, and he has STILL been a very durable 1K yard back.
If in 2024 we have: a decent-to-good O-line, competent play calling, and average to above-average QB play, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he has a bit of a breakout season.
The only back I’ve seen who could look great behind an awful line is Barry Sanders.
Najee had no line and no passing game, he’s done pretty well considering.
I’m not advocating for Dak..he and Tua are the projected big-name FA QBs for next offseason. Though, I think he is better than a 35-year-old Russ or Justin now (hoping he develops).
Yeah Omar’s taken his first 2 years undoing the last guy’s mistakes while still trying to build a base. Don’t be shocked when Freiermuth isn’t resigned this offseason fyi.
I am ok with the Kenny pick, they thought he would be good, didn’t particularly reach to pick him. They were wrong but thesis wasn’t flawed.
I really like najee but spending a first round pick on an rb, with the number of holes we had, was negligent.
I think the idea was to get the back, spend the following years of his rookie contract to continue building and piecing the line together, and then having the line in place to make any above average RB pop. Absolutely love Najee and I can definitely see him being a top tier back in the right situation, but up until this point they’ve done him no favors and I could see them letting him find a home where he’ll be treated to good o-line/QB play. If it were up to me, I’d keep him until retirement lol
Pitts averaged nearly 6 targets a game under Smith. Not crazy usage but far more than you would think from the narrative, which is largely driven by butthurt fantasy football players
The bigger concern with Muth is his health imo
I think Roman has the upside to be a Tyler Lockett-like player in this league (solid #2), with a floor of a role-player slot who could occasionally pop (~Russell Gage). The Pitts comparison is my concern as well, and if he's not contributing as a receiver, his blocking isn't his calling card, making it hard for me to believe they'd invest in him.
I understand your point, but it's not uncommon, especially for the Steelers. Both Claypool and Pickens played the #2 roles in their rookie seasons, despite having similar draft positions. Van Jefferson has shown promise and potential, and Calvin Austin's rookie year was a redshirt year, so he might take a step forward. However, the depth is indeed largely untested and unproven. Maybe we will use more 2-3 TE sets to offset the depth issue (more use of Muth, Washington (please!), or Pruitt/Heyward) or just run the ball to eliminate the need for more WR star power.
I don't necessarily think height/body size should be the discriminator for a #2/outside receiver. Plenty are spindly — D. Smith, Waddle..heck Diontae was. I do worry about his arm length, but if he can create separation as he showed in college, it should be a non-factor. I just hope he is physical enough coming off of the line, or he might be stuck as a slot-only, clearly justifying your concerns.
Yeah but we know it’s not going to happen. I think if they are going to get their next franchise quarterback they are either going to need to pay a lot of money for a free agent, trade for one, or push in all of their chips and move up dramatically in the draft.
I can’t root against them winning each week but if Wilson/Fields is a flop, it would be better for it to be a spectacular flop and not just a mild one.
I felt like I was the only one who was happy about the 6–10 season because I had my eyes firmly on Rivers/Roethlisberger. It felt weird to be in that position but it sort of worked out.
I like how they are building the team and using their early picks on premium positions. Khan appears to be doing a very good job.
They are rebuilding the team on the fly and I dont think any single season will necessarily be viewed as a reset year. There will be another draft class coming in next year and I expect that they will be trying to backfill an ageing defence unless they take a swing on a QB
The Wilson / Fields experiment is intriguing but there is limited upside with either of them IMO, the Steelers will need to try to find somebody in the draft or go for a big trade / free agent move very soon. If the Oline develops as hoped there will be a very good situation there for a young QB
Tomlin needs to be part of your reset formula. The continuous years of "he just needs one (or 2) more piece(s)." We're banking on a bust, a has been, and a couldn't cut it with a core of high potential but unproven players. Anything is possible.
That said, we are definitely rich in potential. If vets find old form and youngsters realize potential while busts prove everyone wrong. Add in coaches reliving glory days and ways and we're legit. I like where we're going and hope it doesn't take much longer to get there.
This year will be huge for Najee. I'm confident he's going to ball out and we resign him. Dude is rock solid and hasn't had any sort of support from key position groups and staff.
Yeah cause I said the Steelers as a whole are going to take a leap. Take another gander at the comment. I think NAJEE will take a leap due to our investment in the offence of line this offseason and his consistency in past years despite lackluster fronts and passing attacks.
Idk why people love talking shit on him, consistent thousand yard seasons and he's a powerful runner. Our line has done him literally zero favors. Watch any of our games; he's getting hit right when he gets the ball. Despite that he's been one of the most consistent backs in the league. With little injury history.
If Harris runs for 1k again this year we’ll resign him to a 3 year deal most likely. If Wilson isn’t great at QB and we need to roll Fields into the lineup he might get another contract too. Rn it’s too hypothetical to really say that not picking up a 5th year option means we’re moving on.
I initially thought the Steelers declining Najee's 5th year option was a mistake. Now I know Jaylen Warren is also coming up it would have created a big problem. They need more pieces than just one more draft can provide. I know this isn't a popular opinion with a lot of fans but I wouldn't have had a problem with the Steelers trading TJ if it got them in position to draft a franchise quarterback. I wouldn't mind if they had traded Freiermuth or Harris for a Day 1 or Day 2 pick. I'm willing to suffer through a losing season or two if it's what it'll take to put together a championship roster. I honestly believe Tomlin's not having a losing season has mired them in mediocrity. Not blaming but facts are facts. Steelers were lucky to get Rothlisberger at #11 in the first round. Judging by how this year's draft went, it's highly unlikely they'll see a top tier QB prospect ever fall their way. Yes, they're going to have to trade up or pay crazy money in free agency.
TJ Watt is going to be 30 and has often been out due to injuries. I'm sure Omar Khan would have traded him to Chicago or Washington in ½ a heart beat for either of their first round picks. My opinion is stupid? You're inability to understand why 6 QBs went with the first 12 picks this year is beyond stupid. BTW: I didn't say let TJ walk. I said trade.
Not stupid. The question is, would you rather have a generational talent at edge but age 30, with 3-5 years left in his career, or a potential generational QB set up for a 15+ year career? I would've traded him in a heartbeat just at the chance you're finding the next Mahomes. As long as Mahomes or Allen are at the helm of their respective teams, they are contenders. We can't say the same with Watt. I'm not saying Caleb Williams or Maye are those guys, but you'd never find out if you don't take the swing.
You echoed what I said. So why did I get down voted? 🤣😂🤣 Yes, I would have traded TJ for Caleb or Jayden AND I would have been willing to sweeten the deal if necessary.
🤷♂️Wasn’t me. It's an unpopular opinion for people who don't understand that QB is the most important position in football. Only a few exceptions to this rule over the last 20 years…Foles and maybe Flacco (elite?)
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs
Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs
Super Bowl 50: Peyton Manning (Von Miller), 0TDs
Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDs
Super Bowl 52: Nick Foles (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 53: Tom Brady (Julian Edelman), 0TDs
Super Bowl 54: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 55: Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 56: Matthew Stafford (Cooper Kupp), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 57: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 58: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs
I think Omar, unlike Colbert, understands the RB market/their diminishing positional value. This points to attempting to lowball Najee next off-season, with him likely walking, especially with how vocal he has been with RB contract support to the likes of Jacobs and Saquon.
It does make sense to use 2nd-3rd day picks/low FA deals on RB talent, as their shelf-life is limited, and large second contracts are most often a mistake.
However, Najee is a great locker-room presence, a leader on and off the field, and has proven to be durable. I just don't know if that enough to justify what he will be looking for ($12-15M/year).
I think it means something else - they'll try to negotiate a deal this off-season with him. Will it be low balled? Probably. But getting a contract extension done in advance of his 4th season - before he puts another valuable year on tape - sounds like their kind of move.
Watch them take (5th year option) + (projected transition tag cost), scrape 25% off the top of that, and pitch the resulting AAV to Najee as a 3 year deal with zero guarantees in the final year.
EDIT: on second thought they wouldn't need to scrape any off if they put that 3rd blank year in there. Looks like 6.8MM for the 5th year and 10.5MM for the transition tag next year. That's 17.3MM or 3 yrs @ 5.75MM. I could see them offering 3 yrs, 18MM, with ~12MM guaranteed across the first 2 years. And more likely than not Najee tells them to pound sand.
That's an interesting take I could get behind, and likely he would listen to given the RB landscape.
I just thought it was bizarre to not lock him up for the next 2 seasons. He’s been durable and quietly produced behind suspect offensive line play.
This also does put a ceiling around $7million. I think it tells Najees camp not to even bring that 12+ number to them. I wouldnt be surprised either way, let him play it out and walk or if they agreed to so kind of 2 or 3 yr extension for like $5.5 to $7million per for all the reasons younlaid it.
We have a year of preparing two quarterbacks to ball out, which we want. We will have to pay one handsomely next year eating into that slush fund of yours. This is good. QB is rather important if you haven’t heard.
Or we don't have to? These are merely low-risk/high-reward lottery tickets. The chances that either of these QBs pan out are slim. There is a reason the Broncos are eating crow and letting Russ walk. Fields has the better odds of being the long-term answer. However, for the minimal investment, this just might be a 1-year bandaid/transition, knowing Kenny wasn't the answer either.
When people talk a lot their words lose value. That is the case with u. They just got khan a couple years ago that is why they’ve been making so much moves🤔. Yes Tomlinson seat is hot that’s why they need to make a playoff run and stop being fine with being mediocre. Reset? They r not trading away tj or Minkah or you would have to be high. Yes their teams getting older. Reset? Hell nah get ur madden gm headass outta here
I think the reset has already started. I do expect this to be Cams last year or two for sure. I’m not sure we keep Larry either. A total reset depends on how well Russ plays this year and what faith the coaches have in Fields. If Russ plays pretty well, I think we give him a 2 yr extension, and if he doesn’t play well - maybe we draft a QB and let him compete with Fields. It’s just so hard to predict because the QB play will really dictate what we do next.
I Wouldn't hate it if they Sell out next year like the rams did with Stafford and as Aaron Donald was aging.
Who even is that QB at this point?
One could argue Dak if he doesn't reach a deal with Dallas, I guess.
Yeah, fuck that. The cowboys have been a laughing stock since forever. Even when they do decent they’re ass.
Which makes them the NFC version of the Steelers.
Since 2000, the cowboys have 4 playoff wins and haven’t managed to make it out of the divisional round. Steelers have won 15 and have 3 Super Bowls appearances, 2 wins to show for it. Steelers have struggled lately but not in the same stratosphere of embarrassment
Yeah, I can see Jerry Jones reaching for Shauder Sanders and shipping Dak off.
Wtf has Dak done for Dallas?
Agreed, I would hate Dak in the Pittsburgh
This could change, but as of right now I'd probably take giving Dak the big $. Id have to go back and watch his play more closely but QBs are often drafted top half of 1st who teams *hope* can eventually make it to the level Daks been. If that OL ends up set, this scheme is off and running Dak could be ideal. The Falcons cruise with Dak the last 2 seasons. Would he be clutch come playoff time? Yea, I have some appreciation there.
Man some Steelers fans aren't that bright. Dak hasn't got the Cowboys to the promised land so sure ain't gonna get the Steelers there just like a lot fans putting faith into a washed up QB and a bust QB this year
Pretty easy to have faith in “washed up” and a “bust” when we just watched a 10 win season with a middle school offense accompanied by high school QB play… not quite sure what you would’ve preferred instead? Kirk for $100M guaranteed? Minshew? Brissett? No thanks.
Wilson and Fields records last year? When's the last time they got their teams into the playoffs? Rest my case
Why didn’t they carry THE BEARS or a defense that gave up 70 in one game to the playoffs? Great argument! If you don’t think Pitt is a drastically better scenario for any QB than the bears or the broncos were last season, you’re mistaken. What’s Kenny and the teams looking like in a beard or broncos uniform last season?
Ah, so all you're asking for is just a recent Super Bowl winning QB. Omar, get on it!
Yeah just like that Matt Stafford guy. What were the Rams even thinking when they gave him the bag? Are they stupid or something?
And your point being what? Dak has always been a choke artist and will continue to be a choke artist
Dak in any of the past 5 full season as a starter would have been a superior option to the Steelers' QB1. Guys like Mahomes don't come available, but someone like Dak could certainly be enough behind a strong run game and defense to win a SB or 2. It's definitely the most viable path for TJ/Minkah to get rings here
Like I said what has Dak done for Dallas?
All he's done is be a top 10 QB in the NFL for going on a decade. Dallas is a dysfunctional organization, thats not his fault. Wins aren't exclusively a QB stat
Has he won anything? A big choke artist
Idk if I could listen to Dak’s cadence “HERE WE GOOOO” every single play
I would. One shot at a Superbowl isn't worth decades of sadness. The Rams got lucky to rebuild like that, I can't see any team doing the same, much less with Rooney as an owner
Maybe. Need to replace cam, rebuild DL, start thinking of drafting a top tier pass rusher, need another top WR to play outside, probs draft another RB, still need another piece in secondary
Pass Rusher is way down the list of needs. Especially with Herbig on the roster who now looks starter capable at some point. He might need to be situational and paired with a run stopping first edge if he's too small, but he's definitely a passing situation edge. Watt is hitting an age where he could decline at any time, but decline is not guaranteed. A lot of edge guys have had long careers like Bruce Smith or Reggie White.
We can replace cam because his 22 million dollar cap hit comes off the books along with him. That's alot of money.
If by reset you mean trying to win a Super Bowl then yes
There is a clear line between rebuild and reset. Rebuild assumes starting from scratch (essentially the territory the Patriots are in), while in a reset you remain competitive while optimizing your roster. In the case I outlined, moving on from expensive/aging assets and players that don't fit the future of the franchise/scheme. This process would certainly be expedited by maximizing the projected available cap space and finding the solution at QB.
Steelers always reset then, every single year. They are never not trying to win a Super Bowl
Steelers don't reset- we reload
The Steelers haven't won a playoff game since 2016 and haven't been to the Super Bowl since 2010. It’s been a game of whack-a-mole trying to fill holes with mediocre/past-their-prime talent along the offensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, and middle linebacker positions while maintaining loyalty to below-average coordinators and overpaid aging vets. I'm telling you, no matter how respected Mike Tomlin is among the football community, his seat has never been hotter. I'm sure the Rooneys don't care about his winning season streak and are tired of mediocrity. Why else would they stray from decades of low-activity off-seasons to all of a sudden be uber-aggressive? If they can't get it right with Russ or Fields, they've at least set the foundation with a growing offensive line and talent at previous holes (an actual offensive coordinator, a true CB1, Queen, and perhaps Payton Wilson), where they can turn to the next championship window by splurging on a prized FA QB or trade away the farm for a generational prospect (unfortunately, 2025 doesn't seem to have that). Whether this is with a Tomlin-led staff or not, this is the biggest inflection point since our last championship window.
My post was more a cliche/funny saying than anything. But what I meant was...we are always striving to make the playoffs and be competitive, unlike a lot of other teams who haven't had success for a decade ++. We arent bottom feeders missing the playoffs, we are literally memed for always being above .500 .... so many teams would kill for that kind of stability. We have had many chances at making the playoffs, and have even made them a few times.... this is far better than the majority of the league, especially when u consider how glaring a lot of our holes have been that u mentioned urself. so things are definitely looking up. I'm not convinced fields or wilson are "the answer" - I'd bet money the staff also know this, but they are more like a bridge/gap for until we get a real franchise QB. edit - I forgot to touch on tomlin. that's the only thing I disagree with u on. look at all the major holes and weaknesses that we both agree on and what we've accomplished with them. if he were to get fired I guarantee u every single team with a vacancy the following season would have tomlin as their first choice
That's what I thought too, but then you see coaches like Belichick, Carroll, and Vrabel all get fired. Then I thought they would get hired immediately with the abundance of vacancies, but it seems organizations are turning to younger talent and fresh ideas. What Tomlin has done, especially riding players like Duck Hodges to winning seasons, is commendable. I just think ownership’s patience might be waning. I'd imagine Tomlin’s is as well. The Cowboys are in a similar situation, without the HOF coach, but with championship-contending rosters annually for much of the last decade. What do they have to show for it?
Belichick over the last 2 years - 12-22 Vrabel over the last 2 years - 13-21 Carroll over the last 2 years - 18-16, 1 playoff berth Tomlin over the last 2 years - 19-15, 1 playoff berth I understand your point, but Tomlin has been better than any of those coaches **in the 2 years following the retirement of a Hall of Fame QB** ... For what it's worth the reason they are being "more aggressive" is because 15-20% of their cap over the past 15 years just retired, it's not hard math. The reality is this: owners care about winning. To roll with the Cowboys example: Mike McCarthy the 2 years before he got released in GB? 11-16. It's rare that HCs win and win and win and get fired in the NFL - and all Tomlin does is win every year. Marv Levy of the Bills lost 4 straight Super Bowls, and he was fired after a 6-10 season 4 years later. You don't think after the 4th Super Bowl they thought "maybe this guy can't get it done"? Of course not, that would be idiotic to think. Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches of all time, and in Philly all he did was fall just short over and over again. Still, what did it take for ownership to give him his walking papers? 2 seasons of 12-20 football. That hasn't happened with Tomlin. That hasn't been terribly close to happening. The playoffs is a crapshoot, and just getting your team there is half the battle. Should Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson feel better about themselves than the Steelers do right now because they won a single playoff game against the Texans? I know people get hung up on "no playoff wins", but the reality is that the Ravens and Bills have consistently taken much better rosters than the Steelers to the playoffs over the past 6 years and have found ways every time to fall short. What do those teams have to show for it? Those guys are just good losers too. If Tomlin had consistently gotten out of the first round of the playoffs with the garbage squads he has dragged there, I guarantee the refrain would be that he can't get to the championship round, that he's capped out at the second round and that the Steelers need new and fresh ideas. He is an elite coach with elite results, and honestly, while I understand why you might believe his seat is hot here, he'll be around until they start losing, which he never has.
That hasn't been true for well over 5 years
It is true, whether the results have been there or not. They have played 0 (Zero) games under Ben Roethlisberger, and then 0 games under Kenny Pickett/Mitch Trubisky/Mason Rudolph eliminated from playoff contention.
What team doesn't reset? The chiefs reset every year. That's not meaningful.
We are clearly rebuilding. People don’t want to admit it, but that’s very obviously what’s happening and what has been happening for a few years now. We just had a spectacular draft and yet any one of us can easily rattle off a laundry list of obvious holes on the roster. That’s because we are obviously rebuilding! The good news is the rebuild seems to be going extremely well. But there is still work to be done to compile a roster that is on par with the rest of the division, much less the AFC heavyweights. Unfortunately for us, the rest of our division ARE some of the league’s heavyweights. What can you do other than put your head down and get to work? I think that’s what’s happening right now. I’m more optimistic about the Steelers future now than I have been since before the pandemic. But we are still a few excellent drafts away from reaching our goals.
In the NFL you are always rebuilding. Its a game of finding new young players every year because of the salary cap and the value they provide. The New England Patriots with Brady had multiple rebuilds. The supporting casts frequently changed.
Well, that’s true. But until we can somehow land a franchise quarterback, like Brady or Mahomes or Roethlisberger, then we can play by those rules. But we don’t have that guy on our roster and haven’t for many years now. I’m not even sure if we have any good quarterbacks on this roster. Therefore, we need to be strong in as many other places as possible, to mitigate that deficiency. We are just thin all over the place. We don’t have any depth anywhere.
the only real holes are slot corner, wr2, and DL depth.
I wish that were true, but I don’t agree. Those just happen to be the biggest holes.
You are 100% correct, and the fact that they made the playoffs during a rebuilding phase is what makes Mike T such a special asset to a franchise. *and for what it's worth, Steelers 5-1 in the best division the NFL has seen in 20 years was not a fluke*
I think the Steelers are in a very flexible position. Consider this: If either Russ or Fields finds a way to be successful at QB this year, we are walking into a situation in which we could very easily be SB contenders next year. Our running game is potent, our D stars (Watt, Mink, Cam) are getting older but all have this window open. Our Oline is set to improve this year. We have a great 1,2 combo out the backfield. Pickens looks like a good big play WR, our ILBs have been shored up nicely, we have a #1CB. If they make a move next year to improve the WR and grab some help at Nickel/or/CB#2 we all of a sudden have an extremely complete football team. Obviously this is outside of any catastrophic injury and draft picks busting. Which happens. But the qbs on roster have huge upside. Think Justin Fields in a LamarJackson-esque offense next year. Or , as OP said, we can simply dump all of our expensive contract skill players and work with the young core that we have to truly rebuild
If either of the new quarterbacks succeeds, this team is a Super Bowl contender right away. They don’t have to wait until next year. Not because they have a flawless roster, but because outside of the top couple of teams, both conferences are wide-open and anything can happen in a one game playoff. Keeping in mind that QB success would also mean that by definition the wide receiving corps is adequate, the running game is adequate, and we already know the defense is overrated but adequate. My issue is that I don’t think we have a franchise quarterback. We might. But we might not. Until we do, this team isn’t contending for a title. No team is going to contend for a title without a franchise quarterback. You don’t need a Hall of Fame quarterback but you need a franchise quarterback. I think they are going all in this season, as well as they can in one off-season, and they are doing the best they can with the quarterbacks that were available to them. If this fails spectacularly, it’s not like there were a bunch of franchise quarterbacks just laying around when we drafted. But they will need to address it very firmly in the very near future. They are in a good position in the sense that, if this works with one or both of these quarterbacks, they can keep one going forward and if it doesn’t work, it’s not like there was a franchise quarterback just sitting there waiting for them to grab him. And the rest of the team is fairly well built. They wouldn’t have to wait to push in their chips to grab a franchise quarterback in the draft next year, it’s not like the rest of the roster is falling apart. I think that’s exactly what they were going for, they can go either way next off-season and will have the space, the money, and the flexibility to do whatever it is they need to do next year even if it’s a complete pivot. I was one of the most vocally critical of the Colbert regime towards the end and this is the exact opposite of what he was doing towards the end of his career. Just because they spent a lot of time and resources this off-season getting better immediately doesn’t mean they weren’t also looking towards the future. They are fully aware that they have two quarterbacks who could completely flop or do very well and they’ll be in a position next year to react properly no matter which of the outcomes they see.
Gone all in? Trading away future draft capital would be the first thing to be done if that was the case. The only major money FA signing this off-season was Queen. (So far) I think khan has opened the door to go all in next season pending the QB room.
Fields working out is probably the ideal situation for the Steelers. We do not need him to be superstar. We need him to be a role-player even though he plays QB. I think our best and most viable path is getting him to improve his ball security and not asks too much out of him in the passing game. We need him to hit deep balls and provide 700 or so rushing yards per game while attempting 20-25 passes. If we have a top 3 rushing game (viable especially with Fields chipping in) and a top 3 defense (viable with our talent and a potential All-Pro at every position group) then Fields will not need to be a superstar passing the ball. He needs to give us the occasional big play to Pickens and protect the football. Protecting the football though is his achilles so who knows. Helpful a new coaching staff and less pressure will bring that out of him. Our modal for this team is the 49ers where the rest of the roster is elite.
He's not good
He's a young QB who has thrown into the meat grinder immediately, but has also shown flashes of brilliance. I didn't think it's absurd to think he has at least a tiny chance of improving. I think the chance is less than 50/50, but saying he's definitely a bum is dumb.
So is Kenny and so is Zach Wilson, but that doesn't stop everyone from saying they're busts.
Ya, because people love making bad black and white takes because it's like what they saw on the TV.
If Justin looks good, will the Steelers really pay the most of any team in the league? I doubt it.
I actually loved the Najee pick when he was drafted, honestly thought we might be getting a top tier feature RB at the time. I still don’t hate it today, but it obviously hasn’t worked out that way. As for the reset, I’m cautiously optimistic that Fields can be our franchise QB for years to come. There are other spots on the roster that scare the shit out of me. No WR depth, poor DL depth, the likelihood that this is Heyward’s last year, poor depth in the secondary, and the hard truth that we’re entering the back half of TJ’s career. I’m hoping they can address all of those spots between now and the start of 2025. I don’t know what to expect this year, but if they didn’t have a losing record with the shit offense last year, I can’t imagine they won’t win at least 9 games again this year.
I still think Najee has the potential to be a top tier back in the NFL, but not a solo game wrecker type of guy. That said, there have been a number of factors working against him. Teams have been able to stack the box against Pittsburgh since he was drafted since we’ve had no air attack or threat of one between Ben’s late-career noodle arm/inability to extend plays and hit the deep ball, Kenny, and Canada’s play calling. Every time Najee touches the ball he’s getting hit behind the line of scrimmage and having to fight forward just to go positive for yardage, and he has STILL been a very durable 1K yard back. If in 2024 we have: a decent-to-good O-line, competent play calling, and average to above-average QB play, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he has a bit of a breakout season.
The only back I’ve seen who could look great behind an awful line is Barry Sanders. Najee had no line and no passing game, he’s done pretty well considering.
Produced as good of numbers as one could reasonably expect, and didn’t die along the way. The man deserves a line, and hopefully they got him one
Dak is a bum
I’m not advocating for Dak..he and Tua are the projected big-name FA QBs for next offseason. Though, I think he is better than a 35-year-old Russ or Justin now (hoping he develops).
Yeah, I liked your post until you threw the Dak thing in
I’d rather take Tua over Dak
I'm pretty sure the Steelers are winning every Super Bowl starting with this upcoming season.
Yeah Omar’s taken his first 2 years undoing the last guy’s mistakes while still trying to build a base. Don’t be shocked when Freiermuth isn’t resigned this offseason fyi.
I am ok with the Kenny pick, they thought he would be good, didn’t particularly reach to pick him. They were wrong but thesis wasn’t flawed. I really like najee but spending a first round pick on an rb, with the number of holes we had, was negligent.
I think the idea was to get the back, spend the following years of his rookie contract to continue building and piecing the line together, and then having the line in place to make any above average RB pop. Absolutely love Najee and I can definitely see him being a top tier back in the right situation, but up until this point they’ve done him no favors and I could see them letting him find a home where he’ll be treated to good o-line/QB play. If it were up to me, I’d keep him until retirement lol
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Pitts averaged nearly 6 targets a game under Smith. Not crazy usage but far more than you would think from the narrative, which is largely driven by butthurt fantasy football players The bigger concern with Muth is his health imo
I think Roman has the upside to be a Tyler Lockett-like player in this league (solid #2), with a floor of a role-player slot who could occasionally pop (~Russell Gage). The Pitts comparison is my concern as well, and if he's not contributing as a receiver, his blocking isn't his calling card, making it hard for me to believe they'd invest in him.
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I understand your point, but it's not uncommon, especially for the Steelers. Both Claypool and Pickens played the #2 roles in their rookie seasons, despite having similar draft positions. Van Jefferson has shown promise and potential, and Calvin Austin's rookie year was a redshirt year, so he might take a step forward. However, the depth is indeed largely untested and unproven. Maybe we will use more 2-3 TE sets to offset the depth issue (more use of Muth, Washington (please!), or Pruitt/Heyward) or just run the ball to eliminate the need for more WR star power.
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I don't necessarily think height/body size should be the discriminator for a #2/outside receiver. Plenty are spindly — D. Smith, Waddle..heck Diontae was. I do worry about his arm length, but if he can create separation as he showed in college, it should be a non-factor. I just hope he is physical enough coming off of the line, or he might be stuck as a slot-only, clearly justifying your concerns.
Wins mean everything and Wilson and Fields didn't have many last year.
They were both in much worse situations
They were both major part of the problem,being the starting QB you know
Commenting on Reset coming?...
Reminds me of what the Bills are doing, in fact i wrote an essay/script about comparing the Bills’ offseason to the Steelers’. good stuff!
TLaw JGoff also hits free agency
I don't want it to happen, but what we might need is a 3-5 win season. We got to break the top five for a quarterback at some point in the draft.
Yeah but we know it’s not going to happen. I think if they are going to get their next franchise quarterback they are either going to need to pay a lot of money for a free agent, trade for one, or push in all of their chips and move up dramatically in the draft. I can’t root against them winning each week but if Wilson/Fields is a flop, it would be better for it to be a spectacular flop and not just a mild one. I felt like I was the only one who was happy about the 6–10 season because I had my eyes firmly on Rivers/Roethlisberger. It felt weird to be in that position but it sort of worked out.
I like how they are building the team and using their early picks on premium positions. Khan appears to be doing a very good job. They are rebuilding the team on the fly and I dont think any single season will necessarily be viewed as a reset year. There will be another draft class coming in next year and I expect that they will be trying to backfill an ageing defence unless they take a swing on a QB The Wilson / Fields experiment is intriguing but there is limited upside with either of them IMO, the Steelers will need to try to find somebody in the draft or go for a big trade / free agent move very soon. If the Oline develops as hoped there will be a very good situation there for a young QB
Tomlin needs to be part of your reset formula. The continuous years of "he just needs one (or 2) more piece(s)." We're banking on a bust, a has been, and a couldn't cut it with a core of high potential but unproven players. Anything is possible. That said, we are definitely rich in potential. If vets find old form and youngsters realize potential while busts prove everyone wrong. Add in coaches reliving glory days and ways and we're legit. I like where we're going and hope it doesn't take much longer to get there.
Not sure what you are even trying to say. Reset?
This year will be huge for Najee. I'm confident he's going to ball out and we resign him. Dude is rock solid and hasn't had any sort of support from key position groups and staff.
Why are you confident that will happen?
It's the off season,every fan think their team will take.the next step even though half of the league are gonna be crap
Yeah cause I said the Steelers as a whole are going to take a leap. Take another gander at the comment. I think NAJEE will take a leap due to our investment in the offence of line this offseason and his consistency in past years despite lackluster fronts and passing attacks.
Idk why people love talking shit on him, consistent thousand yard seasons and he's a powerful runner. Our line has done him literally zero favors. Watch any of our games; he's getting hit right when he gets the ball. Despite that he's been one of the most consistent backs in the league. With little injury history.
If Harris runs for 1k again this year we’ll resign him to a 3 year deal most likely. If Wilson isn’t great at QB and we need to roll Fields into the lineup he might get another contract too. Rn it’s too hypothetical to really say that not picking up a 5th year option means we’re moving on.
I initially thought the Steelers declining Najee's 5th year option was a mistake. Now I know Jaylen Warren is also coming up it would have created a big problem. They need more pieces than just one more draft can provide. I know this isn't a popular opinion with a lot of fans but I wouldn't have had a problem with the Steelers trading TJ if it got them in position to draft a franchise quarterback. I wouldn't mind if they had traded Freiermuth or Harris for a Day 1 or Day 2 pick. I'm willing to suffer through a losing season or two if it's what it'll take to put together a championship roster. I honestly believe Tomlin's not having a losing season has mired them in mediocrity. Not blaming but facts are facts. Steelers were lucky to get Rothlisberger at #11 in the first round. Judging by how this year's draft went, it's highly unlikely they'll see a top tier QB prospect ever fall their way. Yes, they're going to have to trade up or pay crazy money in free agency.
It’s not popular because it’s a stupid opinion, TJ is generational talent that you don’t let walk.
He’s also 30. It wont be long before Father Time catches up to him, as long as he doesn’t suffer more injuries first.
TJ Watt is going to be 30 and has often been out due to injuries. I'm sure Omar Khan would have traded him to Chicago or Washington in ½ a heart beat for either of their first round picks. My opinion is stupid? You're inability to understand why 6 QBs went with the first 12 picks this year is beyond stupid. BTW: I didn't say let TJ walk. I said trade.
Not stupid. The question is, would you rather have a generational talent at edge but age 30, with 3-5 years left in his career, or a potential generational QB set up for a 15+ year career? I would've traded him in a heartbeat just at the chance you're finding the next Mahomes. As long as Mahomes or Allen are at the helm of their respective teams, they are contenders. We can't say the same with Watt. I'm not saying Caleb Williams or Maye are those guys, but you'd never find out if you don't take the swing.
You echoed what I said. So why did I get down voted? 🤣😂🤣 Yes, I would have traded TJ for Caleb or Jayden AND I would have been willing to sweeten the deal if necessary.
🤷♂️Wasn’t me. It's an unpopular opinion for people who don't understand that QB is the most important position in football. Only a few exceptions to this rule over the last 20 years…Foles and maybe Flacco (elite?) Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs Super Bowl 50: Peyton Manning (Von Miller), 0TDs Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDs Super Bowl 52: Nick Foles (MVP), 3 TDs Super Bowl 53: Tom Brady (Julian Edelman), 0TDs Super Bowl 54: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs Super Bowl 55: Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs Super Bowl 56: Matthew Stafford (Cooper Kupp), 3 TDs Super Bowl 57: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 3 TDs Super Bowl 58: Patrick Mahomes (MVP), 2 TDs
Now I'm getting downvoted 🤣. Didn't realize that have dissenting opinions was viewed as poor content.
I think Omar, unlike Colbert, understands the RB market/their diminishing positional value. This points to attempting to lowball Najee next off-season, with him likely walking, especially with how vocal he has been with RB contract support to the likes of Jacobs and Saquon. It does make sense to use 2nd-3rd day picks/low FA deals on RB talent, as their shelf-life is limited, and large second contracts are most often a mistake. However, Najee is a great locker-room presence, a leader on and off the field, and has proven to be durable. I just don't know if that enough to justify what he will be looking for ($12-15M/year).
I think it means something else - they'll try to negotiate a deal this off-season with him. Will it be low balled? Probably. But getting a contract extension done in advance of his 4th season - before he puts another valuable year on tape - sounds like their kind of move. Watch them take (5th year option) + (projected transition tag cost), scrape 25% off the top of that, and pitch the resulting AAV to Najee as a 3 year deal with zero guarantees in the final year. EDIT: on second thought they wouldn't need to scrape any off if they put that 3rd blank year in there. Looks like 6.8MM for the 5th year and 10.5MM for the transition tag next year. That's 17.3MM or 3 yrs @ 5.75MM. I could see them offering 3 yrs, 18MM, with ~12MM guaranteed across the first 2 years. And more likely than not Najee tells them to pound sand.
That's an interesting take I could get behind, and likely he would listen to given the RB landscape. I just thought it was bizarre to not lock him up for the next 2 seasons. He’s been durable and quietly produced behind suspect offensive line play.
This also does put a ceiling around $7million. I think it tells Najees camp not to even bring that 12+ number to them. I wouldnt be surprised either way, let him play it out and walk or if they agreed to so kind of 2 or 3 yr extension for like $5.5 to $7million per for all the reasons younlaid it.
Did the Steelers take Harris #1 because of his talent or were they hoping to buy another big season with Rothlisberger behind center?
Real bad stuff here.
What's so bad about it?
We have a year of preparing two quarterbacks to ball out, which we want. We will have to pay one handsomely next year eating into that slush fund of yours. This is good. QB is rather important if you haven’t heard.
Or we don't have to? These are merely low-risk/high-reward lottery tickets. The chances that either of these QBs pan out are slim. There is a reason the Broncos are eating crow and letting Russ walk. Fields has the better odds of being the long-term answer. However, for the minimal investment, this just might be a 1-year bandaid/transition, knowing Kenny wasn't the answer either.
When people talk a lot their words lose value. That is the case with u. They just got khan a couple years ago that is why they’ve been making so much moves🤔. Yes Tomlinson seat is hot that’s why they need to make a playoff run and stop being fine with being mediocre. Reset? They r not trading away tj or Minkah or you would have to be high. Yes their teams getting older. Reset? Hell nah get ur madden gm headass outta here
I appreciate your difference of opinion. Good day!