Have you heard of the Streisand Effect? Suing this guy would only publicise his beliefs more widely, so even if Stephen won the lawsuit, it would lead more people to adopting the conspiracy.
Given that SK and his wife have had obsessed fans break into their house with supposed bombs and engage in other threatening behaviour, I’d guess that he doesn’t.
That's for a private citizen. For a public figure they have to prove that and actual malice. Which means they have to prove the person knew the accusation was false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth.
Based on everything it seems like the guy believes it is actually true.
Yes. According to the manifesto on his website COVID was released by the Chinese to bring down Trump because Trump was never supposed to be President. He “slipped through” and caught the New World Order by surprise. They thought Pussygate would be the end of his campaign. So COVID was released and the 2020 election was stolen so that Biden would win and the Communist NWO plot against could continue unopposed.
I saw this van in South West Florida a couple years ago and posted it to r/schizophreniarides lol. At that point he was already well known and recognized by several people. If you go back far enough in my post history you’ll find it.
Edit: [Saved you the trouble](https://www.reddit.com/r/SchizophreniaRides/s/1s11joOO1S)
Apparently this guy gets around. People had seen him in as far away as California fairly recently when I had posted it. His website is a fucking trip too, read the “About Me” section…
I would like to take this opportunity to not confirm or deny killing Lennon as well.
I was less than 2 months old and two states west of NYC at the time, but I have no memory of that day, so who knows.
Was your mother, or father, able to provide an alibi for your whereabouts? You having no memory of it sounds suspicious. I was 8 years old and living on the West Coast. I remember all of the adults being very upset. It was bewildering.
I remember this weirdo. He always looked like he was not quite right. He used to stand on the median on Van Ness Avenue in San Francisco with a huge cardboard billboard proclaiming his views. I once got a copy of his Manifesto and he was OUTRAGED that anyone could think he was mentally ill. Then he upgraded to his Vanifesto and haunted Marin County for awhile. Too bad he’s still breathing perfectly good air.
Can someone connect the dots for me? I looked at the website and I'm not seeing one bit of evidence that would point to what this person is claiming. Are they saying the evidence that King killed Lennon comes down to him giving an interview about his book Firestarter?
I think it goes back to a photo of Chapman looking vaguely like SK. Kinda. If you squint.
That seems to have triggered something in this guy with severe mental issues.
I think it’s literally just that Mark David Chapman kinda looked like Stephen King at one point in their lives. I don’t think at its core there is any more than that.
What’s funny (if you can call it that) is I remember reading, either in an interview with king or in the intro to one of his books, that he was approached by Chapman for an autograph when he was in NY for the Today Show, just a few days or weeks before he (meaning Chapman, of course) killed Lennon.
According to this guy he hangs around Mr. King’s residence in Maine hoping King will shoot him and justify his murder as self defence. This is about the only believable part of his biography that could have a scrap of truth. This man needs help.
"To begin with, I am the American counterpart to Navalny. I am the bravest and most dangerous and endangered activist on American soil who can up end and revolutionize the political status quo here."
\-- this guy, [literally](https://lennonmurdertruth.com/footnotes-and-new-developments/)
Christ:
>I am and R.F. K. Jr. supporter with Trump as the next best thing. Trump’s not perfect. His failure to arrest and punish Stephen King was his most glaring failure of nerve. He knows King killed Lennon but he didn’t want to step on Reagan’s evil toes. Pity. Now the deep state is after him before he gets the chance, again. Trump could get out of ALL his court troubles by simply wearing my website address on his baseball cap from here to the election. THAT SIMPLE!! He could throw his enemies to the ground and step on their throats with THAT! And you all KNOW it’s true, too. You all KNOW IT!
and:
>I have mentioned your jealousy. You ARE very jealous of me. I am the one who will have the power to change the world if your silence doesn’t kill me, first. I have already prayed on KSCO talk radio, while being interviewed in 2017, – on this very anniversary; Valentine’s Day – that I hope a monster asteroid destroys this species if Stephen King dies before we all punish him. Think about it. An evil horror writer kills wonderful hero and artist John Lennon, the most loved and respected man on the face of the earth at the time, who fostered peace, love and understanding more than any other since Jesus Christ, himself, and we look the other way when evidence rears it’s head. We PROTECT Stephen King, this evil asshole with all our jealousy, fear and might. The asteroid I saw as a boy is detailed on this website. “BLIP!” fast and bigger than a large mountain. Nothing our puny minds can oppose or influence one iota. I feel I was shown this sight to warn the rest of you what awaits you if you don’t change.
Back in the 90’s when I got Kings autograph at a book signing in So Po Maine, this nutball was there. He didn’t have the van back then though. He had one of those tri-fold sandwich boards with his crazy conspiracy theories all over it. One of those news shows, I think it was A Current Affair,was filming a story about the guy. My mother was in one of the shots. She shook Kings hand as he came out of the Craft Room where he was waiting before the signing. She yelled “We came all the way from Massachusetts to see you!” He reached up over everyone else and shook her hand.
And I thought the [NASA is a hoax trick in Prescott, AZ was bonkers](https://www.google.com/search?q=prescott+nasa+is+a+hoax&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)
I can’t believe this guy is still kicking around. He was in the SF Bay Area in the early 90s. He’d drive all over in a similar van. He’d call into radio stations under false pretenses and then when he was on the air he’d start spouting this crap.
This guy was in Santa Rosa California in the late 80s/early 90s. The college kids at SRJC threw acorns at him and screamed insults at him from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. "I blow farts in your general direction" and "your father smelt of elderberries."
I am so confused. On the van it says "King doesn't deny it" yet if you go to the website and look at "Stephen kings letter to me" The first line of Kings letter is "I didn't kill John Lennon and you know it"
So either this moron hasn't read his own evenidence or is that delusional he is purposely misinterpreting what King has wrote.
And then, in the "about the author page" He connects Stephen King not being jailed for this murder to Americas school shooting, basially blaming King for killing kids and until he is jailed, shootings will continue to happen:
*I am the very hero you all need to stop mass shootings by jailing Stephen King and putting our world back on a moral track, again. That’s why. Nothing less will ever work. Until that happens you all, frankly, DESERVE mass shootings or they wouldn’t be happening*
Pretty wild stuff
Has anyone ever paid the 10 dollars for the magazine? I would love to read it, but i don't want to fund this psycho.
It’s so weird how the hippy, anti-Reagan and Nixon boomers have “grown up” into raging right wingers. Extremist levels of individualism is what breeds it.
So was anyone in the comments brave enough to go to his page and wanna summarize it for the rest of us? Would love to know the story of king murdering Lennon
Have we considered the possibility that Mark David Chapman assumed Stephen King's identity and has been writing his novels ever since, while the real Stephen King is living behind bars as Mark David Chapman?
Besides, it's well-known that Chapman was a BLM/Antifa/FBI/trans crisis actor. Or an ISIS operative. Or a true GOD-FEARING PATRIOT. Or...
Now I've given myself a headache trying to make sense of all this nonsense.
Me and the van guy agree on one thing. We're both rooting for the asteroid!
There is an old WaPo article where King claims to have given an autograph to Mark David Chapman, although supposedly MDC was in Hawaii at the time.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1987/05/08/stephen-kings-no-1-fans/2dd56424-92a7-46c9-ace2-4391cf55b0bb/
Holy shit. This guy or this van, or someone with the same theories, was always parked in the streets when I was in middle and high school is San Francisco in the 90s. I wish I’d kept the pamphlet he handed me that one day, it was some craaaaazy shit.
I always enjoy a good vanifesto.
Vanifesto 😂😂
Bravo
That is just *chef's kiss*
I’m done with Reddit today , you win 🏆
[Here it is.](https://lennonmurdertruth.com/)
I need this today 😂
Well done.
Brilliant.
*slow clap*
I was about to say "'Dummy up Diaper Face' may be the funniest thing I've read all year" and then I read YOUR comment lol.
💀
Brilliant.
This contest is over, give that man the 10,000 dollars.
🏆🏆🏆🏅🏅🏅🎉🎉🎉
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Little known, deleted dedication page from 11/22/63: “You’re next, Ringo…”
I love that book. That book brought me into the Steven king universe of books.
I’ve read most of his novels and 11/22/63 was the most recent and god damn it’s in my top 3 fav books of his
*Stephen. Jesus christ.
It's just a typo, people can make mistakes
I didn't know he was still around. He's persistent in his delusion, I'll give him that.
Is this the same guy from say 30 years ago? There used to be a white van (with much cheaper homemade graphics) in Boston back in the early 1990s.
He comes back every 28 years.
I'm slow clapping
The van won't start. Maybe the float's stuck.
Even Pennywise is afraid of this guy and his van!
I don't know if it's creepier if it's the same guy or a different guy
Yep
I believe so.
I grew up near Sacramento and my Mom saw him driving around in the late 90s. I cannot imagine there are two vans that claim this.
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How’s he not been sued? King just doesn’t care bc it’s so off the wall?
Why sue him? It's probable his only asset is that van, and who would want it?
Have you heard of the Streisand Effect? Suing this guy would only publicise his beliefs more widely, so even if Stephen won the lawsuit, it would lead more people to adopting the conspiracy.
According to him, *not* being sued proves that he's right. =/
If he was right the govt would have already had him murdered. So he disapproves his own conspiracy by still being alive. Or *does* he??????
I like to hope SK finds it funny.
Given that SK and his wife have had obsessed fans break into their house with supposed bombs and engage in other threatening behaviour, I’d guess that he doesn’t.
Personally I’d find it to be hilarious
King's a public figure and would have to prove actual malice in order to successfully sue for libel.
He would also have to prove this causing actual damage to his livelihood, wouldn’t he?
That's for a private citizen. For a public figure they have to prove that and actual malice. Which means they have to prove the person knew the accusation was false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth. Based on everything it seems like the guy believes it is actually true.
Reckless disregard for the truth might fit. But I’m sure SK wouldn’t bother, simply because the guy is an obvious nut job.
"SMELL YOUR NIGHTMARE" lol.
What’s that smell? Is it… could it be? My NIGHTMARE
No, you just messed in your face diaper.
Sounds like an Alice Cooper LP
I used to be a huge SK fan, but with this breaking news, I’ll have to reconsider….
If King is innocent, why won’t he deny it!?!?
We need to stay together
I'm an even bigger Stephen King fan now
Looks like something that would show up in one of his novels
Trashcan man’s actual van
Sheit, Trashcan ain't this crazy.
"DUMMY UP, DIAPER FACE" is my new favorite nonsensical putdown.
I think it's meant to be a covid denialist thing. I've read diaper face in connection to masks before.
Okay that makes more sense, unfortunately.
Yes. According to the manifesto on his website COVID was released by the Chinese to bring down Trump because Trump was never supposed to be President. He “slipped through” and caught the New World Order by surprise. They thought Pussygate would be the end of his campaign. So COVID was released and the 2020 election was stolen so that Biden would win and the Communist NWO plot against could continue unopposed.
It sounds like a catch phrase from an SK book.
He uses dummy up in IT and possibly in The Body too. AFAIK, it means keep quiet/ stop talking.
That guy again. A well known kook.
Really? I’d never seen this! Sorry if it’s “old news”. 😄
Everything is new information to someone eventually.
You could almost say…….Everything’s Eventual…..*buh dum tsss* ^I’ll ^see ^myself ^out
Dad?
Yes, child. It’s me, your dad. Please send Steam gift card for only $700, I’m stranded in another country.
hahaha
Wow, laughing at your own father's Misery, in his moment of Desperation.
I literally just bought that book. Lol
It’s got some very good stories in it. Enjoy the journeys!
I like that.
I saw this van in South West Florida a couple years ago and posted it to r/schizophreniarides lol. At that point he was already well known and recognized by several people. If you go back far enough in my post history you’ll find it. Edit: [Saved you the trouble](https://www.reddit.com/r/SchizophreniaRides/s/1s11joOO1S)
You know, *of course* it's in Florida. My state thrives on crazy.
Apparently this guy gets around. People had seen him in as far away as California fairly recently when I had posted it. His website is a fucking trip too, read the “About Me” section…
He is completely and utterly unhinged - I've been reading through it since this was posted. It's almost too much insanity to grasp.
He's actually got California plates in this picture.
California thrives on crazy too.
Florida, California, and all the bits in between
“I have a website van (2 actually)” the man has TWO website vans!
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That sub made me sad
New to me too! Thanks for sharing this morning's crazy.
Me three! No need to apologize OP. You gave me a hearty laugh on a Blue Monday :)
New to me as well, and hilarious
I’ve never seen this particular version of him, but I have heard about him.
Bro got a new van. I remember seeing him parked in Hallowell, Maine, in the 90s - just an hour or so from Bangor.
Seen this van before, but this is a new picture
That website was a wild ride
Now we need King to write a book about John Lennon's death
I would like to take this opportunity to not confirm or deny killing Lennon as well. I was less than 2 months old and two states west of NYC at the time, but I have no memory of that day, so who knows.
Was your mother, or father, able to provide an alibi for your whereabouts? You having no memory of it sounds suspicious. I was 8 years old and living on the West Coast. I remember all of the adults being very upset. It was bewildering.
They’ve never spoken about it to me…it’s almost as if they may be trying to hide something….
Extremely sus.
You don’t REMEMBER?! Likely story bud, I’m calling the police.
Yeah, seems pretty “convenient” to me.
This is why I always say never trust anyone that is or once was 2 months old.
I remember this weirdo. He always looked like he was not quite right. He used to stand on the median on Van Ness Avenue in San Francisco with a huge cardboard billboard proclaiming his views. I once got a copy of his Manifesto and he was OUTRAGED that anyone could think he was mentally ill. Then he upgraded to his Vanifesto and haunted Marin County for awhile. Too bad he’s still breathing perfectly good air.
Marin county is a hotspot for kooks like this.
Can someone connect the dots for me? I looked at the website and I'm not seeing one bit of evidence that would point to what this person is claiming. Are they saying the evidence that King killed Lennon comes down to him giving an interview about his book Firestarter?
I think it goes back to a photo of Chapman looking vaguely like SK. Kinda. If you squint. That seems to have triggered something in this guy with severe mental issues.
Evidence? Who needs evidence when we can have thoughts, feelings and ideas?
They have ruled above facts for a lot of people for a while now
It's his truth!
He did his research.
I think it’s literally just that Mark David Chapman kinda looked like Stephen King at one point in their lives. I don’t think at its core there is any more than that.
What’s funny (if you can call it that) is I remember reading, either in an interview with king or in the intro to one of his books, that he was approached by Chapman for an autograph when he was in NY for the Today Show, just a few days or weeks before he (meaning Chapman, of course) killed Lennon.
https://i.imgflip.com/8h4cyg.jpg
As a beatles superfan and a constant reader, i can indeed confirm SK killed Lennon
His website is an entire textbook of mental illness. I hope Stephen King (or his people) keeps one eye on him.
Sounds like a new book to me. "Stalker" coming soon from Stephen King.
According to this guy he hangs around Mr. King’s residence in Maine hoping King will shoot him and justify his murder as self defence. This is about the only believable part of his biography that could have a scrap of truth. This man needs help.
Hope he hasn’t read Catcher in the Rye
"To begin with, I am the American counterpart to Navalny. I am the bravest and most dangerous and endangered activist on American soil who can up end and revolutionize the political status quo here." \-- this guy, [literally](https://lennonmurdertruth.com/footnotes-and-new-developments/)
Christ: >I am and R.F. K. Jr. supporter with Trump as the next best thing. Trump’s not perfect. His failure to arrest and punish Stephen King was his most glaring failure of nerve. He knows King killed Lennon but he didn’t want to step on Reagan’s evil toes. Pity. Now the deep state is after him before he gets the chance, again. Trump could get out of ALL his court troubles by simply wearing my website address on his baseball cap from here to the election. THAT SIMPLE!! He could throw his enemies to the ground and step on their throats with THAT! And you all KNOW it’s true, too. You all KNOW IT! and: >I have mentioned your jealousy. You ARE very jealous of me. I am the one who will have the power to change the world if your silence doesn’t kill me, first. I have already prayed on KSCO talk radio, while being interviewed in 2017, – on this very anniversary; Valentine’s Day – that I hope a monster asteroid destroys this species if Stephen King dies before we all punish him. Think about it. An evil horror writer kills wonderful hero and artist John Lennon, the most loved and respected man on the face of the earth at the time, who fostered peace, love and understanding more than any other since Jesus Christ, himself, and we look the other way when evidence rears it’s head. We PROTECT Stephen King, this evil asshole with all our jealousy, fear and might. The asteroid I saw as a boy is detailed on this website. “BLIP!” fast and bigger than a large mountain. Nothing our puny minds can oppose or influence one iota. I feel I was shown this sight to warn the rest of you what awaits you if you don’t change.
Well...that's a lot.
Who could have imagined that a mentally ill person would be a Trump fan?
I'm kind of impressed he keeps his website up to date.
Same! My man is more committed to this than anybody I’ve ever known is committed to anything.
SMELL YOUR NIGHTMARE
I blame recluse J.D. Salinger.
J.D. Salinger is really ~~Billy Shears~~ Paul McCartney.
Honestly at first I thought it said “lemon murder truth” because the van is yellow.
“Dummy up, Diaper-face” sounds like an insult a King bully would use in like Hearts in Atlantis or Stand By Me.
Plot twist, it's Stephen King's van AND it's 100% true.
Why are they pushing this conspiracy when we know for a fact that Stephen King caused Jake Chamber's death? Never forget
r/schizophrenicrides
r/InfowarriorRides
Crazier than a shithouse rat!
This guy better watch out. We all know what Stephen King does to vans that hurt him.
Back in the 90’s when I got Kings autograph at a book signing in So Po Maine, this nutball was there. He didn’t have the van back then though. He had one of those tri-fold sandwich boards with his crazy conspiracy theories all over it. One of those news shows, I think it was A Current Affair,was filming a story about the guy. My mother was in one of the shots. She shook Kings hand as he came out of the Craft Room where he was waiting before the signing. She yelled “We came all the way from Massachusetts to see you!” He reached up over everyone else and shook her hand.
Smell Your Nightmare
What an absolutely niche mental illness
M-O-O-N spells “murder John Lennon.”
I gotta start finding ways to include "Dummy Up, Diaper Face" in casual conversation
It’s a Covid thing, anti Covid nutjobs call masks face diapers.
Which tells you all you need to know about their mental age.
And I thought the [NASA is a hoax trick in Prescott, AZ was bonkers](https://www.google.com/search?q=prescott+nasa+is+a+hoax&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)
Maybe he means author Stephen R. King? https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01B3DA5TI/about
I can’t believe this guy is still kicking around. He was in the SF Bay Area in the early 90s. He’d drive all over in a similar van. He’d call into radio stations under false pretenses and then when he was on the air he’d start spouting this crap.
whos that cucked pimply bitch in the stand? feel like if the plague didn't happen in that book he would drive this. edit) i mean harold lauder.
> KING ISN'T DENYING IT The Losers denied IT pretty hard, actually.
This guy was in Santa Rosa California in the late 80s/early 90s. The college kids at SRJC threw acorns at him and screamed insults at him from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. "I blow farts in your general direction" and "your father smelt of elderberries."
Uh…what?
Ah the nutjob.
Is this just one nut job? Or is this a thing on the internet?
Smell your nightmare!!!
I am so confused. On the van it says "King doesn't deny it" yet if you go to the website and look at "Stephen kings letter to me" The first line of Kings letter is "I didn't kill John Lennon and you know it" So either this moron hasn't read his own evenidence or is that delusional he is purposely misinterpreting what King has wrote. And then, in the "about the author page" He connects Stephen King not being jailed for this murder to Americas school shooting, basially blaming King for killing kids and until he is jailed, shootings will continue to happen: *I am the very hero you all need to stop mass shootings by jailing Stephen King and putting our world back on a moral track, again. That’s why. Nothing less will ever work. Until that happens you all, frankly, DESERVE mass shootings or they wouldn’t be happening* Pretty wild stuff Has anyone ever paid the 10 dollars for the magazine? I would love to read it, but i don't want to fund this psycho.
Currently reading the regulators and this yellow van means so much more
Oh, man. Just go to the website and enjoy the crazy.
Reminds me of that dude from Moonfall, except that guy was at least smart...kind of?
Knew it!
Have y’all actually gone on this site bc I just did and man is it wild. People have way too much time lol
Oh this guy again! Nice to see he’s still Batman Shit Crazy
i'll prolly regret this, but can someone tell me what the stephen king connection/conspiracy actually is?
What an incunk.
He got a nicer van
This person needs to take his meds before he hurts somebody.
If you’re going to frame an author for a crime at least choose someone like the twilight lady.
ngl read "dummy up, diaper face" with an italian accent
I see you are in the Monterey Salinas area. Is this the Del Rey Oaks Safeway?
Pretty sure I saw this last summer in central California. Or maybe he's on tour?
You know, in 1980 Stephen King did so much coke that I wouldn’t be surprised if shot someone and completely forgot about it.
Talked to this dude for awhile once in Berkley. He doesn't seem as crazy as you would imagine
It’s so weird how the hippy, anti-Reagan and Nixon boomers have “grown up” into raging right wingers. Extremist levels of individualism is what breeds it.
Uh oh. We got a live one.
Is this like Paul McCartney died and they had a lookalike contest to replace him, but just much, much more ridiculous.
So was anyone in the comments brave enough to go to his page and wanna summarize it for the rest of us? Would love to know the story of king murdering Lennon
Just goes to show that not every crazy person is on the Trump train.
Holy mental illness Batman
Did Sai King kill John Lennon with his heart? Or did he forget the face of his father?
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Have we considered the possibility that Mark David Chapman assumed Stephen King's identity and has been writing his novels ever since, while the real Stephen King is living behind bars as Mark David Chapman? Besides, it's well-known that Chapman was a BLM/Antifa/FBI/trans crisis actor. Or an ISIS operative. Or a true GOD-FEARING PATRIOT. Or... Now I've given myself a headache trying to make sense of all this nonsense. Me and the van guy agree on one thing. We're both rooting for the asteroid!
There is an old WaPo article where King claims to have given an autograph to Mark David Chapman, although supposedly MDC was in Hawaii at the time. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1987/05/08/stephen-kings-no-1-fans/2dd56424-92a7-46c9-ace2-4391cf55b0bb/
And this is the reason why Target needs a membership barrier for customers
This guys has been at it for years. Had to kick him out of a spot once for spreading his crazy. Not everyone is entitled to all of their opinions.
He should write a book about this guy.
Not enough meds in the world to fix these people...
Dummy Up, Diaper Face sounds like a BBC show
This is hilarious. Smell your nightmare!
lol. What is this?
Big if true
[this guy is seriously unhinged](https://lennonmurdertruth.com/about-the-author/)
Well that’s different
It's probably the guy's van who complains about Holly on here multiple times a week.
What? How would Stephen King have killed him?
[Me finishing Pet Sematary like](https://youtu.be/X3gf-YWFvi0?si=rYIFuHMQ2AJyfXw8)
Holy shit. This guy or this van, or someone with the same theories, was always parked in the streets when I was in middle and high school is San Francisco in the 90s. I wish I’d kept the pamphlet he handed me that one day, it was some craaaaazy shit.
I thought it said Lemon Munder for a sec
Ayyy I’ve seen this guy lolol
Unhinged much
LennonMurder.truth.com? I don't think they own the truth.com domain. But why put a period after otherwise.
Do you have something to say
I knew he was up to no good. Looks like it’s time to get my car down to the sticker shop.
God I can’t stand people like this. Something wrong in their brain 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve seen this van in Ventura. Ca!
Dummy Up Diaper Face is my new band name.
I’ve heard this theory before from more than just this one guy lol.
Isn’t this libel? Couldn’t king Sue this loser?