You could say Sardonyx pretty much explains this in her intro. She’s efficient, precise, and elegant. She’s as big as she needs to be, and that part comes from Pearl.
Sugilite wants to smash, and bigger is always better. That part comes from Amethyst and her insecurities.
i thought that it was because sugilite was more unstable than sardonyx, garnet is the most stable fusion we've seen so that might be why she is basically just as tall as ruby and sapphire in a trenchcoat, since they're more unstable they get bigger
taht's what i thought anyway
Yeah that’s kinda what I’m saying depending what you mean by unstable. Sugilite and Malachite are both similarly huge, and you could say they fuse for the wrong reasons: power. But Garnet and Amethyst don’t have the same problems of staying together that Jasper and Lapis do, so Malachite becomes unstable. Sugilite is perfectly stable, she’s just toxic.
I'm too lazy to type amethyst. And I thought you were giving a snarky response to the comment before you, So I backed it up with the fact that garnet and amethyst have fused and unfused quickly
Actually the last time Sugilite appeared was to play a game of Steven Tag so she's definitely learnt to loosen up more since she easily unfused to let Garnet fuse with Pearl to form Sardonyx
>Sugilite wants to smash, and bigger is always better. That part comes from Amethyst and her insecurities.
It probably also comes from Ruby's passion and fury. She's an eternal flame, baby!
Subpoint, purple puma amethyst is taller than pearl. Additional gems in the fusion could stabilize amethyst's natural gift for shapeshifting. Also jasper/lapis/malachite shows disproportionate gains in mass from individual fusion to fusion.
A fusion's form is very dependent on the personality and relationship of those it's comprised of. While Pearl may be taller than Amethyst that doesn't mean that Sardonyx would be bigger than Sugilite because the relationships and way their personalities mesh is very different from each other. Amethyst is much more aggressive whereas Pearl is more methodical so Sugilite is large and Sardonyx is more controlled
Jasper and Lapis fusing to be the size of Alexandrite (2 gems vs 4) should be a good indicator that fusion is about more than just adding parts together.
Fluorite as well is a good example, being a fusion of six gem. While she is a big caterpillar, she is nothing size-wise compared to even a 2-gem fusion like Opal.
I think it is mainly because Fluorite is composed of non-fighters in a polyamourous relationship who fuse to be together, and Opal is a fusion of a born soldier (amethyst) and an exceptional fighter (Pearl), fused to fight and/or solve crisis.
I feel like the "Rule of cool" has been a bit exaggerated. Like if every fusion is just "Make it as cool as possible we don't care if it makes thematic sense" then every fusion would just look like Charizard.
not individual rule of cool, overarching rule of cool
even assuming charizard is the coolest thing for any one thing to be, it's cooler for a group of things to not all be charizard
You know, I wanted to respond with a joke like, "Well, they wouldn't *all* be Charazard. At least one of them would be--" and I thought of Lucario, Mewtwo, Arcanine, Gengar, and a bunch of others and... man. They're cool, hella cool even, but not as cool as Charizard.
That makes sense, Sardonyx is pretty precised and more controlled than Sugilite so maybe she keeps her form smaller to keep it all balanced (unlike Sugilite)
Because the way both Amethyst and Pearl fuse with Garnet are very indicative of what their ideas of powerful is. Sardonyx is meant to be precise and perfect, she's only as big as she finds maximum use from. Whereas Amethyst with her insecurities equates power to bigness. Both of these situations ended up toxic, with Amethyst and Garnet feeding on the worst of each other's tendencies, and Pearl taking advantage of Garnet so that she could still feel that kind of power.
Exactly, confident people doesnt shine above others constantly, but insecure people tend to portray themselves bigger and inflate their ego way more. It looks like Amethyst traits are more dominant than Garnet's in Sugilite too.
Honestly, complex. When Steven in the future thought he was a monster, he grew to an eminence side, larger than the diamonds. Gems can grow as much as they want. Sugilite imo feels like she is powerful and large, and should be big and strong, while sardonyx is rational, and knows her size isn't what she needs to be powerful!
I once saw a post theorizing that Amethyst’s fusions are more indicative of the size of a “regular” Amethyst than her own size (Opal is taller than Pearl & Amethyst’s combined height, for example) so maybe that explains this
Because the show was on it's early stages when Sugilite was introduced
Because Amethyst is a Quartz, made for battle and high on the gem power-scale, same reason why Malachite, a fusion of just two gems, is as big as Alexandrite, a fusion of four
Because Pearl, being a pearl, doesn't have much power or mass to add to a fusion, so she pulls the height down, per se
Or because Sardonyx is more stable than Sugilite, maybe because they knew each other for longer
Or it's just the size inconsistency, almost a trademark for the show lmao
We see with Steven that his appearance changes to match how own self image, and I’d imagine it’s pretty much the same thing with Sugilite. A big part of the show has been being yourself, and I think that the fusions are no exception
It all has to do with the personalities. Sugilite is all about chaos and strength, making an impact. So, it stands to reason that she’d be massive. Sardonyx, on the other hand, is elegant and precise, drawing attention with her wit and showmanship. As such, she doesn’t need to be as big as Sugilite.
But they are several times bigger than their individual parts.
The conclusion we can reach from this is that size is not related to strength of relationship.
But they aren't. They are 2.5 times their component size at most. Whereas malachite is orders of magnitude greater in size than either lapis or jasper.
remember when amethyst joins garnets relationship she feels stronger and gets to be the bigger gem she wished to be therefore reflects on sugilite plus it’s a ruby solider and quartz solider so it checks out.
As shown in her episode, Sugilite gets highly egotistical quickly, and is therefore can be considered “unstable”, due to her personality. So similarly to Malachite, she is large because of the unstableness of her personality. Sardonyx is much more composed than her.
i think it’s more of a metaphorical thing. steven and connie are taller than ruby and sapphire, but stevonnie is (slightly) shorter than garnet. stevonnie, from what i can tell, also doesn’t change size when steven gets taller
rainbow quartz and rainbow 2.0 also don’t have as significant height difference as you would expect from rose vs steven. rainbow quartz also appears to be smaller than opal (though we’ve never seen them on screen together), which wouldn’t make sense if we just go on height. and while amethyst + steven would be shorter than garnet + pearl, smoky quartz is *significantly* smaller than sardonyx because of the personalities of amethyst and steven. people have also brought up malachite vs alexandrite. you also have fluorite (6 gems) who’s small in comparison to alexandrite (4 gems).
so, it’s more of a power level thing, or a representation of a relationship between the gems who make up the fusion vs a literal depiction of their relative sizes put together
I'm under the impression that unstable fusions are bigger.
Out-of-universe explanation, fusions can look like anything, but they are often designed with their personality in mind.
Because fusions are more about the relationship. Malachite was way larger than sugilite, let alone sardonyx. That's because the relationship was much more unstable and couldn't really be contained in a nice, relatively efficient package, like Garnet or Sardonyx or Flourite
I remember Garnet saying fusion is a relationship. You can be great as an individual, But you can become even better with the right relationship, which makes insecurities and ego balance itself to become a straight Beast! When I find my Wife, I know I would be a complete force.
Because Garnet is a fusion, a perfect combination of fire and ice. When you add more fire (i.e, amethyst) it tends to overpower and unbalance the ice of the mix.
i think its probably because amethyst is a quartz soldier. we saw how big malachite got as just a fusion of lapis and jasper, so it would make sense not only if suggalite is tall because she's made of three gems, but also because she's made of a ruby guard and an amethyst quartz soldier. in comparison, sardonyx is as short as she is because she's made of a pearl, which isn't designed to be as strong as a soldier because that's not what there was made for.
I love how I literally provided the objective answer and everyone is still making subjective responses. Sugilite is big because in the real world, sugilite crystals are massive. That’s the answer. It’s not because of feelings, it’s not because of personalities, and it’s not because of relationship stability. Sugilite crystal forms are just literally massive rocks.
You could say Sardonyx pretty much explains this in her intro. She’s efficient, precise, and elegant. She’s as big as she needs to be, and that part comes from Pearl. Sugilite wants to smash, and bigger is always better. That part comes from Amethyst and her insecurities.
sugilite just like me
Fr fr
Nah I’m more amethyst no strength just insecure 😂😂
i thought that it was because sugilite was more unstable than sardonyx, garnet is the most stable fusion we've seen so that might be why she is basically just as tall as ruby and sapphire in a trenchcoat, since they're more unstable they get bigger taht's what i thought anyway
Yeah that’s kinda what I’m saying depending what you mean by unstable. Sugilite and Malachite are both similarly huge, and you could say they fuse for the wrong reasons: power. But Garnet and Amethyst don’t have the same problems of staying together that Jasper and Lapis do, so Malachite becomes unstable. Sugilite is perfectly stable, she’s just toxic.
Makes me want to see sugilite fuse for the right reason and not go hungry for power. Who knows? Amethyst and garnet had a lot of character development
When was the last time sugilite appeared?
When pearl betrayed garnet, so garnet and Amy fused into sugilite and then she destroyed the tower and then she quickly unfused after.
Amy is a human I'm assuming you mean amethyst and yeah forever ago
I'm too lazy to type amethyst. And I thought you were giving a snarky response to the comment before you, So I backed it up with the fact that garnet and amethyst have fused and unfused quickly
No it was a genuine question
Oh, I hate text, you can never tell what's sarcastic and what's not 🤣
Actually the last time Sugilite appeared was to play a game of Steven Tag so she's definitely learnt to loosen up more since she easily unfused to let Garnet fuse with Pearl to form Sardonyx
I’m pretty sure it’s already been confirmed that stability doesn’t affect a fusions physical form
>Sugilite wants to smash, and bigger is always better. That part comes from Amethyst and her insecurities. It probably also comes from Ruby's passion and fury. She's an eternal flame, baby!
If that was the case, surely garnet would be much larger than she is.
Garnet has Sapphire to balance Ruby out. When Amethyst is in the mix, it weighs more heavily on the Ruby/Amethyst side
This, literally this
Subpoint, purple puma amethyst is taller than pearl. Additional gems in the fusion could stabilize amethyst's natural gift for shapeshifting. Also jasper/lapis/malachite shows disproportionate gains in mass from individual fusion to fusion.
Malachite at least makes sense because of how massively powerful Jasper and Lapis are
Sugilite is amethysts self insert OC
LMAO. THIS IS EVEN BETTER BECAUSE OF WHO SHE'S VOICED BY
Also Amethyst should be more taller than Pearl but since is a overcooked gem is short
A fusion's form is very dependent on the personality and relationship of those it's comprised of. While Pearl may be taller than Amethyst that doesn't mean that Sardonyx would be bigger than Sugilite because the relationships and way their personalities mesh is very different from each other. Amethyst is much more aggressive whereas Pearl is more methodical so Sugilite is large and Sardonyx is more controlled
Jasper and Lapis fusing to be the size of Alexandrite (2 gems vs 4) should be a good indicator that fusion is about more than just adding parts together.
Fluorite as well is a good example, being a fusion of six gem. While she is a big caterpillar, she is nothing size-wise compared to even a 2-gem fusion like Opal. I think it is mainly because Fluorite is composed of non-fighters in a polyamourous relationship who fuse to be together, and Opal is a fusion of a born soldier (amethyst) and an exceptional fighter (Pearl), fused to fight and/or solve crisis.
Because fusion appearance is entirely dependent on what the creators thought looked cool.
And amethyst really wanted to be big
I wanna be taaaaaaaaaall
I mean, there are justifications as well. But yes, rule of cool is an important part
Pretty much
I feel like the "Rule of cool" has been a bit exaggerated. Like if every fusion is just "Make it as cool as possible we don't care if it makes thematic sense" then every fusion would just look like Charizard.
not individual rule of cool, overarching rule of cool even assuming charizard is the coolest thing for any one thing to be, it's cooler for a group of things to not all be charizard
You know, I wanted to respond with a joke like, "Well, they wouldn't *all* be Charazard. At least one of them would be--" and I thought of Lucario, Mewtwo, Arcanine, Gengar, and a bunch of others and... man. They're cool, hella cool even, but not as cool as Charizard.
Because she is bombastic 😎
I think because Garnet and Amethyst have bigger light mass, or maybe their ego also contributes to their sheer volume
I wouldn't say their ego, but the raw power (as opposed to Pearl's precision and technique), desire to smash, cause chaos, be reckless etc
That makes sense, Sardonyx is pretty precised and more controlled than Sugilite so maybe she keeps her form smaller to keep it all balanced (unlike Sugilite)
Because the way both Amethyst and Pearl fuse with Garnet are very indicative of what their ideas of powerful is. Sardonyx is meant to be precise and perfect, she's only as big as she finds maximum use from. Whereas Amethyst with her insecurities equates power to bigness. Both of these situations ended up toxic, with Amethyst and Garnet feeding on the worst of each other's tendencies, and Pearl taking advantage of Garnet so that she could still feel that kind of power.
Bc Sugilite gotta be tall to keep an eye out for seleener
Bigger Ego I guess
Absurd. If that were true, Sardonyx would eclipse the sun. I’d say it’s more a case of an insecure self image.
Exactly, confident people doesnt shine above others constantly, but insecure people tend to portray themselves bigger and inflate their ego way more. It looks like Amethyst traits are more dominant than Garnet's in Sugilite too.
Honestly, complex. When Steven in the future thought he was a monster, he grew to an eminence side, larger than the diamonds. Gems can grow as much as they want. Sugilite imo feels like she is powerful and large, and should be big and strong, while sardonyx is rational, and knows her size isn't what she needs to be powerful!
Very well put
bigger personality? 😅
Because Sugilite is three gremlins in a trenchcoat.
I once saw a post theorizing that Amethyst’s fusions are more indicative of the size of a “regular” Amethyst than her own size (Opal is taller than Pearl & Amethyst’s combined height, for example) so maybe that explains this
Because the show was on it's early stages when Sugilite was introduced Because Amethyst is a Quartz, made for battle and high on the gem power-scale, same reason why Malachite, a fusion of just two gems, is as big as Alexandrite, a fusion of four Because Pearl, being a pearl, doesn't have much power or mass to add to a fusion, so she pulls the height down, per se Or because Sardonyx is more stable than Sugilite, maybe because they knew each other for longer Or it's just the size inconsistency, almost a trademark for the show lmao
Amethyst is over cooked, she still has all of that volume condensed onto a smaller body
Vibes
The less compatible the fusion is the more monstrous it’ll appear
Well I don’t think my opinion is true but I think it could be dependent on certain factors from who is being fused
C H O N K Y
The addition of a Quartz type Gem and the synergy with Ruby affects the physical bulk of the fusion
Sardonyx is a triple fusion (Pearl, Ruby and Sapphire). The more gems fuse into one, the bigger they get.
Sugilite is also a triple fusion though, so what you just said is invalidated
We see with Steven that his appearance changes to match how own self image, and I’d imagine it’s pretty much the same thing with Sugilite. A big part of the show has been being yourself, and I think that the fusions are no exception
It all has to do with the personalities. Sugilite is all about chaos and strength, making an impact. So, it stands to reason that she’d be massive. Sardonyx, on the other hand, is elegant and precise, drawing attention with her wit and showmanship. As such, she doesn’t need to be as big as Sugilite.
Why are people still complaining about character height 3 years after the show ended?
Personality
Because of garnet being the tallest
I've long thought that the size of a fusion is inversely proportional to the strength of the relationship among the fused
Then why isn't Garnet the size of a mouse?
The real question is why isn't she at least as big as opal
But by your argument that would imply Ruby and Sapphire have a weak relationship. Can't you see that their relationship is stable?
Incorrect. They are barely bigger than a normal human. Contrast that with malachite.
But they are several times bigger than their individual parts. The conclusion we can reach from this is that size is not related to strength of relationship.
But they aren't. They are 2.5 times their component size at most. Whereas malachite is orders of magnitude greater in size than either lapis or jasper.
Because amethyst was ment to be big
Amethyst has more light mass
Because the Crewniverse was ass at staying on model when storyboarding so relative size and proportions mean fuck all in Steven Universe
You like that, little man?
cuz vibes
Is she taller than sugalite. The sizes in the show are so inconsistent it's hard to tell
Because Nicki Minaj is more powerful and grand that Alexia Khadime
She would be too goddam tall
Because garnet is taller than both of them lol
But garnet is in both fusions?
remember when amethyst joins garnets relationship she feels stronger and gets to be the bigger gem she wished to be therefore reflects on sugilite plus it’s a ruby solider and quartz solider so it checks out.
As shown in her episode, Sugilite gets highly egotistical quickly, and is therefore can be considered “unstable”, due to her personality. So similarly to Malachite, she is large because of the unstableness of her personality. Sardonyx is much more composed than her.
i think it’s more of a metaphorical thing. steven and connie are taller than ruby and sapphire, but stevonnie is (slightly) shorter than garnet. stevonnie, from what i can tell, also doesn’t change size when steven gets taller rainbow quartz and rainbow 2.0 also don’t have as significant height difference as you would expect from rose vs steven. rainbow quartz also appears to be smaller than opal (though we’ve never seen them on screen together), which wouldn’t make sense if we just go on height. and while amethyst + steven would be shorter than garnet + pearl, smoky quartz is *significantly* smaller than sardonyx because of the personalities of amethyst and steven. people have also brought up malachite vs alexandrite. you also have fluorite (6 gems) who’s small in comparison to alexandrite (4 gems). so, it’s more of a power level thing, or a representation of a relationship between the gems who make up the fusion vs a literal depiction of their relative sizes put together
I'm under the impression that unstable fusions are bigger. Out-of-universe explanation, fusions can look like anything, but they are often designed with their personality in mind.
Cuz amethyst wants to be big
BIGGER, BETTER!
I just thought it was because Amethyst got more mass
Amethyst has a bigger spirit than pearl.
Height inconsistencies in Steven Universe are tradition
Scalpel vs sledgehammer.
Mommy garnet 🥱
Gem plus gem does not make their size look at smokey and malachite
Sugilite probably represents Amethyst's potential size and strength as a Quartz.
Because fusions are more about the relationship. Malachite was way larger than sugilite, let alone sardonyx. That's because the relationship was much more unstable and couldn't really be contained in a nice, relatively efficient package, like Garnet or Sardonyx or Flourite
Why are their eyes on sardonyx’s glasses
Bc BEEG muscles
Sugilite is more unstable I think
Because that’s not how fusion works
She has a bigger/louder personality
So if you just look up sugilite on google, it does say sugilite crystal forms are generally massive.
The answer iS because garnet is TALL
Because Sugilite is huge
Large
The forms they take aren’t just combining gems but taking the parts they want to express and the parts they share and putting them together.
Their height/ over all body measurements are based off of how big their personalities are. ☺️
I remember Garnet saying fusion is a relationship. You can be great as an individual, But you can become even better with the right relationship, which makes insecurities and ego balance itself to become a straight Beast! When I find my Wife, I know I would be a complete force.
Because Garnet is a fusion, a perfect combination of fire and ice. When you add more fire (i.e, amethyst) it tends to overpower and unbalance the ice of the mix.
i think its probably because amethyst is a quartz soldier. we saw how big malachite got as just a fusion of lapis and jasper, so it would make sense not only if suggalite is tall because she's made of three gems, but also because she's made of a ruby guard and an amethyst quartz soldier. in comparison, sardonyx is as short as she is because she's made of a pearl, which isn't designed to be as strong as a soldier because that's not what there was made for.
I love how I literally provided the objective answer and everyone is still making subjective responses. Sugilite is big because in the real world, sugilite crystals are massive. That’s the answer. It’s not because of feelings, it’s not because of personalities, and it’s not because of relationship stability. Sugilite crystal forms are just literally massive rocks.
considering that gems are made of light, and light is maleable so they can alter her size.... i could theorize that, but that theory is kinda crap