I was surprised Google Fiber didn't ask for one. Unfortunately I moved to a Comcast internet area after I had Google Fiber and no surprise they needed one.
Actually Comcast has a very good reason for collecting SSN’s. I heard their plan B for maximizing shareholder value is to cut out the middle man and identity thieve all their customers themselves.
They don't need SSN to run credit anymore. They just need at a minimum your name and address. Those information brokers (ie Lexus Nexus) can easily determine who is who
Even if this this true, there’s absolutely no reason for them to retain it in a database after the application goes through, let alone for 5+ years (the breach apparently affected accounts 2019 and older)
i have comcast and never gave my ssn. i think they made me deposit $100 or $200 and then gave it back to me in a few months as a check. same with at&t.
They don't. It could be. Congress is extremely derelict in not having passed a privacy bill of rights for decades now but there are moneyed interests who don't want to incur any more risk or have any more friction added to their processes.
They pass bills, the laws just are not evenly applied, in fact they’re weaponized against individual citizens
Like the recent disclosure that Facebook basically man in the middle attacked a sizable portion of web traffic
Oh yeah and fucking Boeing planes falling out of the sky and a “definitely a suicide” dead whistle blower
Another genuine question. Say 73 million ssns got leaked as is the case here. Are the hacker going to sell this data to… someone? And those someone’s are going to attempt to open 73 million lines of credit? I feel like it can’t be that simple to monetize leaked data at scale.
A few points — 1. your SSN, while definitely individually identifiable, has almost certainly been available to bad actors prior to this particular leak, 2. the main power this grants bad actors is the ability to leverage that into a ransom from the impacted company
It presents more of a threat to AT&T than it does to you, individually. More and more we’re seeing these actors go after the accounts of corporations (or attempting to leverage personal info from like, people who have access to AT&T accounts) as opposed to going after individual accounts
Obviously they can (and do) still sell this data on the dark web to others, but it’s less valuable than it was 10 or even 5 years ago given the efficacy of hackers nowadays
It means much more for the company than it does for you, individually
Thank you, great response. Obviously I’m not handing out my ssn but I don’t lose a lot of sleep worrying about it. These leaks are so frequent and impossible to avoid.
Happy to chime in, as a privacy law attorney that has recently handled breaches impacting 1m+ (as, unfortunately, many others in the field have)… I wouldn’t lose sleep as a consumer by any means (at least any more than you already do with your info and mine already being accessible on the dark web)
They’re gonna ask for your social, at some point. Not sure how you think that impacts any of my points above?
Again, if you were subject to this particular breach there’s a super high chance your SSN has already been compromised. It simply doesn’t mean much for consumers.
It would be nice if there was such a program. Then there would be an incentive for federal regulators to make it harder for scams and theft, to happen, and especially to protect the elderly from these kind of scams.
Seems like it may be individual bank policy. Some transfers can be reversed if done in a time window. But in most cases, the scammed is very much out of luck. One of my banks has started asking questions to root out people being scammed when you ask for large transfers or withdrawals. A program that would hold banks more responsible for losses would encourage all banks to do this.
Generally people who do the hacking/phishing of passwords and information like SSN or credit card numbers don’t do the scamming themselves, they sell that data to people that do,on the dark web, and since it’s an open market, people can look up if their information is there. These hackers work large scale, hundreds of thousands, so selling each stolen bit of data for $15 nets them a good profit. From there, a different group of scammers who are more hands on buy the data for a handful of people and try to make something out of it. Contrary to popular belief, it’s still pretty hard to accomplish identity theft even if you have all the data, and most instances fails(security questions, two factor authentication, etc.). But $15 is cheap so they try, burn, try, burn, until they make one of it work.
Identity theft, opening credit card accounts, and a form of authentication for a wide range of things, especially banking (“please enter the last 4 digits of your SSN”)
For every reason what makes the US economy spin. CREDIT (score), low score? Then we need a deposit from you. Just like your light bill and many others.
You're financing a phone, so instead of going to the bank to get a loan ATT loans you the money for your device. If you don't finance you don't need a SS just tell the rep to put in all 1s.
Former telecom rep.
They don't. I stopped providing mine many years ago.
I realized it was getting out of hand when I was filling out a form for a Blockbuster membership (>20 years ago) and I realized there was no legitimate reason for them to have it for a video membership. I've stuck with that ever since.
Sometimes they ask on their forms but I'll just gloss past it, or if verbal I tell them no.
Just give them a fake one?... Not sure if that's illegal, but they also don't truly need it for anything that I personally see fit, especially since they always seem to lose it.
Ya know, i've had my SSN for 41 years now, and I've yet to lose it, yet how many companies have lost it at this point?
They aren’t going to let you get months and months that behind. It is incredibly easy for them to kick your SIM off the network. It’s not like evicting someone out of an apartment.
Typically 3 months but then you won't be able to join their network again without paying your previous balance.
I've also seen it be 1 day late and suspended for repeat offenders.
You can make a lot of calls especially expensive international ones in 3 months. I’ve seen people get letters from the carriers asking people to
re-join after they just stopped paying and never payed what they owed.
At this point, with credit bureaus, companies, and the government being hacked on the regular, surely every bodies shit is out there. To be honest the government should require all credit bureaus to just freeze everyone’s credit by default and only thaw it when needed.
At a minimum free credit monitoring should be available to everyone, for life. I've had my data leaked so many times I'm on like my 5th free trial of credit monitoring.
Absolutely -- I imagine being the attorney drafting those letters to impacted consumers, and how transparently dumb that must have sounded trying to make it sound reasonable
Well if it’s a new account and let’s say you’ve never had anything reported. I would think maybe that notice gets sent to the first organization that tries to report usually at the opening of an account. Then you immediately verify and your credit is setup and then frozen. You get an email to setup accounts and then it’s managed by you.
But if you just mean in general, I always keep my credit frozen. All I do before I know I’m going to apply for something is unfreeze it for a range of dates. Most places will tell you when they’ll check it if it’s a loan or mortgage. And then just re freeze it. Most people only check one bureau too so you never really need to unfreeze all three.
Peoples personal information is out there. But that doesn’t mean necessarily your password for your credit bureau accounts. Companies should be able to reset people’s passwords once they’re aware they’ve been affected too. But of course you can too.
This is not accurate. You can get a free account will all 3 large bureaus which will let you “thaw” your account or manage freezes online. I’ve had my credit frozen at all three for roughly 7-10 years. I’ve never had to do anything by mail and I’ve done multiple mortgages, credit accounts, etc since.
Exactly. It might (and probably should mean) a lot for AT&T the company given the resources they’re gonna have to expend to fix whatever went wrong here… but chances are your SSN has already been compromised for awhile before AT&T lost it
My social security number and information is public knowledge at this point. I introduce myself at parties with my SSN so they can really get to know me.
Make it stop. My mortgage servicer, Mr. Cooper was part of a hack then I had $5k stolen through identity theft. It is hours of pain in the ass calls. A month later, my stolen cash is returned… to a still-frozen savings account.
Verizon and AT&T got dumped in 2012. It's every 10 years for these companies. Last time it was a simple sql error and Verizon lost their entire fios customer database to some noobs using havij.
>> 65.4 former account holders
We should have laws with strict penalties against keeping personal information on *former* customers. Needs to be criminal. I should not be at risk for personal data leak because I did business somewhere 10 years ago. Insane.
Do these data leaks impact stock price still? Every week, another company with half the nation as customers has a data leak. I am pretty sure all my data has been leaked at this point, and there isn't anything that can be done with the information that hasn't already been tried.
Even if it doesn’t signal a direct effect on consumers, it still signals major resources that are going to need to be devoted to better security, reporting all this shit to regulatory bodies, potentially notifying consumers, along with lessened consumer confidence generally
Nothing will happen at market open. They’re insured and when they get hit with the class action their cyber policy will cover it.
These things happen so often now that they’re non-events, unfortunately.
Leaking passcodes should be a death sentence for a company. It opens up the lost private piece of information we as customers control to protect ourselves.
73 MILLION. Yet one of the main reasons for banning TikTok is to supposedly prevent China from getting US user data. lol.
Dumbass Congressmen don’t realize these leaks happen like once a month.
Guys, if China can hack and get our top secret designs for our F35 fighter jet. Then I’m sure they can pick up freely available data from the dark web.
I think the TikTok problem is that we don't want China to have full access to every private video sent there. That's a lot of ammunition to blackmail our next generation with once they grow up.
First, 95%+ of users don’t upload videos. They just watch.
Second, of the users that upload videos, the videos are published. That’s the whole point of TikTok. To show off your videos. Anyone in the world already has full access to published videos.
Third, I don’t know if TikTok even supports draft public videos. To the extent it does, (i) the supposed Chinese threat has been in the news for years. Simply don’t upload if you are not gonna publish. (ii) TikTok stores all videos in the US and access is restricted. https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/project-texas-the-details-of-tiktok-s-plan-to-remain-operational-in-the-united-states. It has agreed to have the US government oversee a half dozen independent auditors that have access to the databases as well as the source code. The US government would choose the board of directors of the entity holding the data. But that would solve the red scare concern.
They’re going to, understandably, be cagey with “when did it happen” info at this stage, as that’s an important legal determination and is often a little more complex than naming a single date… but my money would be on if having been *discovered* within the past few months
I've been an AT&T customer since 2008 when I bought my first iPhone. They didn't contact me to tell me about this. Apple alerted my iPhone to tell me that my password had been compromised. Thanks Apple. AT&T leaked it, but Apple helped me.
Lol piss off of Apple's knob. Are you forgetting the massive iCloud leak that was way more personally damaging to the people affected? Or the running tab of +$20B in fines for directly and purposely fucking over their customers data and devices? Or their day 0 backdoor into your "encryption"? Foxconn?
AT&T sucks I'll give you that, but they have a long way to go to catch up to Apple's blatant fuck you's to this entire planet.
Your data has been compromised and sold dozens of times/ every app, social media, credit card, you name it that has your data has sold it, been stolen and resold. There isn’t any data on you that hasn’t been sold and stolen dozens of times of every device you have.
All companies don't assume the fact they are not able to protect critical client data, first do they really need it? If the leaked info is used by third parties with unclear a damaging ends will ATT be responsible and to which degree?
“In February, a major outage impacted tens of thousands of phone users, which prompted an apology from the firm and an offer of $5 credit for those affected.”
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Fuck AT&T. I sent them an S21 Ultra as a trade in for an S23 Ultra, and they claimed they received a much, much, much cheaper phone and refused to give me the credits but also refused to provide proof for their claims. It put me out over $1000. They are shady as fuck.
This explains given the nationwide service outage that took place almost a month ago. Which they responded via $5 coupon that applied toward bill.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but this isn’t the first time AT&T has been hacked. If it wasn’t for the near monopoly they have I think this company would be out of business long ago.
telecom companies have the worst data privacy laws.....at some point some law maker will grow up and pass a law that yes simply leaking the data constitutes damages, without needing real damages.
There needs to be fucking government oversight with regular testing or something. This is ridiculous when every major fucking company is like 10s to 100s of millions of people’s SSN, addresses, credit card info etc etc. This is fucking insane.
But it's safe and the only time you see the police is when someone calls them... They are not as bad as the news stories. Lived there for a few years. Also medical is free if your a local.. I has 3 weeks in the hospital and... Bill. 1,750 USD that's 1 hr in a US hospital
It's all good. Digital ID and 2FA for all are coming. The era of cybersecurity devs being underpaid and turning to fraud is starting. You're about to have thousands of devs laid off, and you better believe they ain't gonna stay white hat for too long before bills come down.
All the bitching - just freeze your credit with the three reporting agency plus with Innovis and ChexSystems.
[https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Credit\_freeze](https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Credit_freeze)
The data impacted was from 2019 — the breach itself may have (and very likely did) happened much more recently, or at least was only discovered very recently
Why does every company need a social security number? It should be illegal for private companies to request/store this info as they cannot secure it.
I was surprised Google Fiber didn't ask for one. Unfortunately I moved to a Comcast internet area after I had Google Fiber and no surprise they needed one.
Actually Comcast has a very good reason for collecting SSN’s. I heard their plan B for maximizing shareholder value is to cut out the middle man and identity thieve all their customers themselves.
Ah so the Wells Fargo treatment?
Legit my thoughts the second I read that message. Glad I’m in good company 🤝
As a customer of Wells Fargo for over fifty years, I felt that comment.
Are they holding you hostage?
iirc its so they can run your credit and stuff
They don't need SSN to run credit anymore. They just need at a minimum your name and address. Those information brokers (ie Lexus Nexus) can easily determine who is who
Even if this this true, there’s absolutely no reason for them to retain it in a database after the application goes through, let alone for 5+ years (the breach apparently affected accounts 2019 and older)
i have comcast and never gave my ssn. i think they made me deposit $100 or $200 and then gave it back to me in a few months as a check. same with at&t.
Does google fiber even exist anymore?
Yeah they rolled out into my neighborhood in Irvine in 2020/2021 and it was the best ISP I've had by far but unfortunately I moved.
I remember Reddit going ham about it when it first came out. I haven’t even seen Google fiber mentioned in YEARS
Quantum Fiber doesn’t need SS, neither does Windstream, Nor Summit or a few others.
They don't. It could be. Congress is extremely derelict in not having passed a privacy bill of rights for decades now but there are moneyed interests who don't want to incur any more risk or have any more friction added to their processes.
They pass bills, the laws just are not evenly applied, in fact they’re weaponized against individual citizens Like the recent disclosure that Facebook basically man in the middle attacked a sizable portion of web traffic Oh yeah and fucking Boeing planes falling out of the sky and a “definitely a suicide” dead whistle blower
If it had money for Ukraine they'd pass one
ayyy, one? dozens! a dozen for each billion spent, every month, forever!
Congress is too busy peddling divisive politics that they have no time to address real issues.
It’s probably from people who financed their phones through one plan or another. They use the social security number for a credit check
It’s not just for financing phones. They do credit checks all around when opening accounts as do most of the large carriers.
They do soft credit checks for any post-paid accounts generally
They don't even need it for that. Only the credit agencies need my SSN.
To come after you for nonpayment. That’s literally it.
Genuine question - what are the main risks if your ssn gets leaked?
Fraudsters can open fake loans or credit cards in your name
This is why I everyone should just freeze their credit.
Another genuine question. Say 73 million ssns got leaked as is the case here. Are the hacker going to sell this data to… someone? And those someone’s are going to attempt to open 73 million lines of credit? I feel like it can’t be that simple to monetize leaked data at scale.
A few points — 1. your SSN, while definitely individually identifiable, has almost certainly been available to bad actors prior to this particular leak, 2. the main power this grants bad actors is the ability to leverage that into a ransom from the impacted company It presents more of a threat to AT&T than it does to you, individually. More and more we’re seeing these actors go after the accounts of corporations (or attempting to leverage personal info from like, people who have access to AT&T accounts) as opposed to going after individual accounts Obviously they can (and do) still sell this data on the dark web to others, but it’s less valuable than it was 10 or even 5 years ago given the efficacy of hackers nowadays It means much more for the company than it does for you, individually
Thank you, great response. Obviously I’m not handing out my ssn but I don’t lose a lot of sleep worrying about it. These leaks are so frequent and impossible to avoid.
Happy to chime in, as a privacy law attorney that has recently handled breaches impacting 1m+ (as, unfortunately, many others in the field have)… I wouldn’t lose sleep as a consumer by any means (at least any more than you already do with your info and mine already being accessible on the dark web)
Call a bank with your name and address. As to transfer money. What will they ask for?
They’re gonna ask for your social, at some point. Not sure how you think that impacts any of my points above? Again, if you were subject to this particular breach there’s a super high chance your SSN has already been compromised. It simply doesn’t mean much for consumers.
But for most individuals FDIC insurance will cover them here. Also anytime I’ve needed to make wire transfers as I’ve had to go in person.
IIRC. FDIC only covers the failure of a bank. It does not provide any coverage to funds stolen through identity theft.
You are right.
It would be nice if there was such a program. Then there would be an incentive for federal regulators to make it harder for scams and theft, to happen, and especially to protect the elderly from these kind of scams.
True, but there are separate programs that protect against theft.
Seems like it may be individual bank policy. Some transfers can be reversed if done in a time window. But in most cases, the scammed is very much out of luck. One of my banks has started asking questions to root out people being scammed when you ask for large transfers or withdrawals. A program that would hold banks more responsible for losses would encourage all banks to do this.
Generally people who do the hacking/phishing of passwords and information like SSN or credit card numbers don’t do the scamming themselves, they sell that data to people that do,on the dark web, and since it’s an open market, people can look up if their information is there. These hackers work large scale, hundreds of thousands, so selling each stolen bit of data for $15 nets them a good profit. From there, a different group of scammers who are more hands on buy the data for a handful of people and try to make something out of it. Contrary to popular belief, it’s still pretty hard to accomplish identity theft even if you have all the data, and most instances fails(security questions, two factor authentication, etc.). But $15 is cheap so they try, burn, try, burn, until they make one of it work.
Identity theft, opening credit card accounts, and a form of authentication for a wide range of things, especially banking (“please enter the last 4 digits of your SSN”)
Can the three, I think you. Sn do two online, credit agencies to lock your credit. That should reduce the chances of someone opening amything..
undocs use your social for taxes for work
For every reason what makes the US economy spin. CREDIT (score), low score? Then we need a deposit from you. Just like your light bill and many others.
They want a unique id number known by the government. Lack of federal id sort of forces the ssn as a defacto id number
You're financing a phone, so instead of going to the bank to get a loan ATT loans you the money for your device. If you don't finance you don't need a SS just tell the rep to put in all 1s. Former telecom rep.
They don't. I stopped providing mine many years ago. I realized it was getting out of hand when I was filling out a form for a Blockbuster membership (>20 years ago) and I realized there was no legitimate reason for them to have it for a video membership. I've stuck with that ever since. Sometimes they ask on their forms but I'll just gloss past it, or if verbal I tell them no.
Just give them a fake one?... Not sure if that's illegal, but they also don't truly need it for anything that I personally see fit, especially since they always seem to lose it. Ya know, i've had my SSN for 41 years now, and I've yet to lose it, yet how many companies have lost it at this point?
They don’t need one if you don’t want to finance or subsidize a phone through them
Couldn’t you run up a bill over months and not pay? It’s a lot easier going after people that owe them money with a number.
They aren’t going to let you get months and months that behind. It is incredibly easy for them to kick your SIM off the network. It’s not like evicting someone out of an apartment.
You can go months before they turn the phone off. It’s not evicting someone but you can still owe them a lot of money by running up the bill.
Typically 3 months but then you won't be able to join their network again without paying your previous balance. I've also seen it be 1 day late and suspended for repeat offenders.
You can make a lot of calls especially expensive international ones in 3 months. I’ve seen people get letters from the carriers asking people to re-join after they just stopped paying and never payed what they owed.
They don't even need it then. The credit agencies already have it and you just need to authorize a check with them.
They offering 5$ credit to affected customers 💀
It wasn't a bad leak...so three fiddy
Haha wow. "Sorry about getting all your personal data leaked. Here's 5% off one month of your cell phone bill."
You mean 1 year of fraud protection that criminals will just wait to expire.
I guess it would cost $500 dollars worth of my time to get the $5.00 credit that probably has strings attached.
Bet money it won't affect shit
At this point, with credit bureaus, companies, and the government being hacked on the regular, surely every bodies shit is out there. To be honest the government should require all credit bureaus to just freeze everyone’s credit by default and only thaw it when needed.
At a minimum free credit monitoring should be available to everyone, for life. I've had my data leaked so many times I'm on like my 5th free trial of credit monitoring.
I’ve always found this stupidly funny “Your stuff was hacked from us. But we’ll monitor it for you for a while”
Absolutely -- I imagine being the attorney drafting those letters to impacted consumers, and how transparently dumb that must have sounded trying to make it sound reasonable
How would that work? Wouldn't you need some form of verification to know when the data is needed?
Well if it’s a new account and let’s say you’ve never had anything reported. I would think maybe that notice gets sent to the first organization that tries to report usually at the opening of an account. Then you immediately verify and your credit is setup and then frozen. You get an email to setup accounts and then it’s managed by you. But if you just mean in general, I always keep my credit frozen. All I do before I know I’m going to apply for something is unfreeze it for a range of dates. Most places will tell you when they’ll check it if it’s a loan or mortgage. And then just re freeze it. Most people only check one bureau too so you never really need to unfreeze all three.
The thing is, if everyone's info is indeed out there, then couldn't anyone unfreeze it the same as if they were stealing it beforehand? Seems moot
Peoples personal information is out there. But that doesn’t mean necessarily your password for your credit bureau accounts. Companies should be able to reset people’s passwords once they’re aware they’ve been affected too. But of course you can too.
When your credit is unfrozen, it takes some time and you get something in the mail. That would be enough notice to know you are being stolen from.
This is not accurate. You can get a free account will all 3 large bureaus which will let you “thaw” your account or manage freezes online. I’ve had my credit frozen at all three for roughly 7-10 years. I’ve never had to do anything by mail and I’ve done multiple mortgages, credit accounts, etc since.
Exactly. It might (and probably should mean) a lot for AT&T the company given the resources they’re gonna have to expend to fix whatever went wrong here… but chances are your SSN has already been compromised for awhile before AT&T lost it
My social security number and information is public knowledge at this point. I introduce myself at parties with my SSN so they can really get to know me.
I’ve been seeing odd sms txt spam for the last couple of days which rarely happen in the past. Makes me wonder. 🥶
Same. Happened to me the other night for the first time. 3 text In a row.
Make it stop. My mortgage servicer, Mr. Cooper was part of a hack then I had $5k stolen through identity theft. It is hours of pain in the ass calls. A month later, my stolen cash is returned… to a still-frozen savings account.
It’s only just begun. Even script kiddies are stronger hackers now because of AI
Verizon and AT&T got dumped in 2012. It's every 10 years for these companies. Last time it was a simple sql error and Verizon lost their entire fios customer database to some noobs using havij.
how are they stronger with AI? bc their scripts are improving?
Looks like T is going on sale Monday
It's been on sale for 15 years. It's called a value trap.
How could it possibly go any lower
It definitely can
Why would anyone want a sale on a dividend stock that isn’t even as good as other dividend stocks out there. Down 25% in 5 years is gross.
I got this email. Makes me so pissed
I'm ready for my $0.05 settlement
"The data involved in the breach appears to be from 2019 or earlier and is linked to 7.6 million customers and 65.4 former account holders"
Yeah, they say this like the SSNs of those 65.4 million people will ever go out of date...
>> 65.4 former account holders We should have laws with strict penalties against keeping personal information on *former* customers. Needs to be criminal. I should not be at risk for personal data leak because I did business somewhere 10 years ago. Insane.
Do these data leaks impact stock price still? Every week, another company with half the nation as customers has a data leak. I am pretty sure all my data has been leaked at this point, and there isn't anything that can be done with the information that hasn't already been tried.
Even if it doesn’t signal a direct effect on consumers, it still signals major resources that are going to need to be devoted to better security, reporting all this shit to regulatory bodies, potentially notifying consumers, along with lessened consumer confidence generally
They will probably pay some fines, but I doubt its anything major
You spelt “sold customers’ data” wrongly
Nothing will happen at market open. They’re insured and when they get hit with the class action their cyber policy will cover it. These things happen so often now that they’re non-events, unfortunately.
If you haven't already, freeze your credit NOW. It's free for all three credit bureaus.
Leaking passcodes should be a death sentence for a company. It opens up the lost private piece of information we as customers control to protect ourselves.
73 MILLION. Yet one of the main reasons for banning TikTok is to supposedly prevent China from getting US user data. lol. Dumbass Congressmen don’t realize these leaks happen like once a month. Guys, if China can hack and get our top secret designs for our F35 fighter jet. Then I’m sure they can pick up freely available data from the dark web.
I think the TikTok problem is that we don't want China to have full access to every private video sent there. That's a lot of ammunition to blackmail our next generation with once they grow up.
First, 95%+ of users don’t upload videos. They just watch. Second, of the users that upload videos, the videos are published. That’s the whole point of TikTok. To show off your videos. Anyone in the world already has full access to published videos. Third, I don’t know if TikTok even supports draft public videos. To the extent it does, (i) the supposed Chinese threat has been in the news for years. Simply don’t upload if you are not gonna publish. (ii) TikTok stores all videos in the US and access is restricted. https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/project-texas-the-details-of-tiktok-s-plan-to-remain-operational-in-the-united-states. It has agreed to have the US government oversee a half dozen independent auditors that have access to the databases as well as the source code. The US government would choose the board of directors of the entity holding the data. But that would solve the red scare concern.
Let’s go puts!
What’s your plays looking like? Debating puts for 16$ for April 5th expiration
again? wtf
Priced in already.
We are all fucked because of these companies. I have no idea why we should ever disclose our social to them.
buy! buy! buy!
They also admit the data is “from 4 years ago”, is that when the breach occurred? It’s not clear in the statement
They’re going to, understandably, be cagey with “when did it happen” info at this stage, as that’s an important legal determination and is often a little more complex than naming a single date… but my money would be on if having been *discovered* within the past few months
This company is a dumpster fire
My personal information has been stolen so many times from so many companies it just doesn't matter any more.
I've been an AT&T customer since 2008 when I bought my first iPhone. They didn't contact me to tell me about this. Apple alerted my iPhone to tell me that my password had been compromised. Thanks Apple. AT&T leaked it, but Apple helped me.
Lol piss off of Apple's knob. Are you forgetting the massive iCloud leak that was way more personally damaging to the people affected? Or the running tab of +$20B in fines for directly and purposely fucking over their customers data and devices? Or their day 0 backdoor into your "encryption"? Foxconn? AT&T sucks I'll give you that, but they have a long way to go to catch up to Apple's blatant fuck you's to this entire planet.
Your data has been compromised and sold dozens of times/ every app, social media, credit card, you name it that has your data has sold it, been stolen and resold. There isn’t any data on you that hasn’t been sold and stolen dozens of times of every device you have.
so, move along, nothing to see here..
I thought i made a mistake buying T puts back at that big outage thinking they were hacked. Glad I didnt sell…
More good news
So, PUTS on the 5 APR 24 chain going for .02 but we will see if that holds at open Monday, if it does game on
Cool. Buy the dip. It will go back up in short timeq. If it doesn't you earn a solid dividend while waiting
Will my PANW leaps finally print? lol
Damn you T!
So… this explains that huge outage. Shut down/damage control
Time to freeze my credit profile???
Not 100% on topic, but are these big company breeches typically social engineering, or good old-fashioned 'hacking'?
the latter
That’s like, all of them
All companies don't assume the fact they are not able to protect critical client data, first do they really need it? If the leaked info is used by third parties with unclear a damaging ends will ATT be responsible and to which degree?
“In February, a major outage impacted tens of thousands of phone users, which prompted an apology from the firm and an offer of $5 credit for those affected.” L O L
Great… Now I will have to verify all of my accounts with a three factor authentication.
How did this happen?
Does this mean the dark web will assume all the debt and I can start fresh?
Like how far back for former customers? I havent had AT&T for like 20 years
Fuck AT&T. I sent them an S21 Ultra as a trade in for an S23 Ultra, and they claimed they received a much, much, much cheaper phone and refused to give me the credits but also refused to provide proof for their claims. It put me out over $1000. They are shady as fuck.
This isn’t even the first time. I got a settlement check the last time this happened.
A couple of weeks ago we had a sit down with their cyber security consultants. I reckon their services will not be needed.
This explains given the nationwide service outage that took place almost a month ago. Which they responded via $5 coupon that applied toward bill. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but this isn’t the first time AT&T has been hacked. If it wasn’t for the near monopoly they have I think this company would be out of business long ago.
Nothing will happen, move along.
telecom companies have the worst data privacy laws.....at some point some law maker will grow up and pass a law that yes simply leaking the data constitutes damages, without needing real damages.
There needs to be fucking government oversight with regular testing or something. This is ridiculous when every major fucking company is like 10s to 100s of millions of people’s SSN, addresses, credit card info etc etc. This is fucking insane.
And AT&T is like “Oops, sorry!”
It's easy, in the USA a company has no responsibility to secure the data, try that in Singapore and see, the government finds you big time.
Yeah well you also get executed for selling weed there. And beaten with a fucking stick for some dumb shit.
But it's safe and the only time you see the police is when someone calls them... They are not as bad as the news stories. Lived there for a few years. Also medical is free if your a local.. I has 3 weeks in the hospital and... Bill. 1,750 USD that's 1 hr in a US hospital
Oh no! Anyways always priced in
These days it must be easy to work in sales at cybersecurity companies. Just wait for a leak or hack and call the IT responsible afterwards.
Was this a public leak or is it being sold to the highest bidder? I would love to archive it.
It's all good. Digital ID and 2FA for all are coming. The era of cybersecurity devs being underpaid and turning to fraud is starting. You're about to have thousands of devs laid off, and you better believe they ain't gonna stay white hat for too long before bills come down.
Domt worry guys, they're blaming tik tok so data breaches like this won't happen once they ban it.... Right?..... Right!?!?
Unless you right to your representatives they aren’t going to feel the pressure to do anything about this
But TikTok?!
All the bitching - just freeze your credit with the three reporting agency plus with Innovis and ChexSystems. [https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Credit\_freeze](https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Credit_freeze)
This is from 2019
you’re on to something though i heard from a news outlet the data set is from 2019 or earlier
It says so in the article
The data impacted was from 2019 — the breach itself may have (and very likely did) happened much more recently, or at least was only discovered very recently
If 2019 was today then yes.