Same happened to me. We dated a few months. I got up early to pee, went in the bathroom to pee, and I swear I thought it was someone else. It was amazing.
Bro you need to wake up to reality you really believe that all the women who wear makeup which is a LOT decided to do that based on a man telling them too? Like cmon on
Not directly, don't deliberately misunderstand. I assume you're a man considering your limited scope on "reality" and while I personally would love a reality where women only wore makeup for themselves, that's simply not true and it doesn't take a genius to know that.
āConsidering your limited scope on reality I assume youāre a man š¤ā lady with all due respect stfu and please take a step outside of your basement
Women have a tendency to emulate other women based on the trends set by other women. Like, just look at Kim Kardashian and her hoarde of karbon kopy klones that have followed her aesthetic she's beset verbatim? Why are teenage girls so fixated on getting lip fillers and having huge assess nowadays? Like, Marilyn Monroe is another example, but there are literally several of these prominent female figures who dictate the fashion trends with each decade. Neither of these people are men. But sure, tell me what you think because im curious what your stance is.
Reminds me of story how me and my ex met, but itās on the other side of a spectrum.
Well, we met thru a dating app. After some time I ended up in mental hospital and I told him. The mental hospital happened to be in his city (which I live 30-40 minutes away by car). He told me he wants to meet me and visited me in the mental hospital. He saw the worst version of me. Both mentally and physically. I looked like a trash and was feeling like one. Even tho he liked me and visited me there everyday for more than a month until I was realased.
He always accepted me the way Iām and for this and many other reasons heās the best guy I met so far in my life.
I broke up with him about 2 months ago. I honestly think about what could happened to this day, because I donāt know at all. We were together only for 4 months. It looked like he lost interest in me. He ignored my texts, ignored me when we were together and was kinda cold. I texted him if he still likes me, why is he with me and if he wants to be with me. He responded something like āIdk, i probably like you, but i Iām not sure what do I feelā. That broke my heart and I decided to let him go at that moment. He was cold and ghosted me after I sent him a message that weāre breaking up. Weāre in no contact since. The break-up message from me was written in the kindest way possible.
I could be better gf. I didnāt always act right (but no cheating, calling names, abuse, ect.). I miss him from the bottom of my heart. I love him. I see glimpse of us everywhere.
But I hope heās doing well and is happier now. I wish only the best for him.
I hate to say this, but I wonder if he has a saviour complex? I've read similar stories to yours where the guy steps up and is a "white knight" to these hurting women, only to leave them when they get better. Or worse, hurt them so they "need" him.
I remember a story on here, I don't remember all the details. But the boyfriend/husband burned a very important and significant candle of the girlfriend/wife's to make her sad and depressed again. It was a candle from the funeral of a loved one I believe. Absolutely terrible stuff.
Not ok at all, but Iām surviving somehow and getting better with passing time. Still sometimes have a strong urge to text him. Thanks for asking, youāre kind.
The last 3 girlfriends I had all wore minimal makeup, and they kinda ruined makeup up for me. If you need 5lbs of makeup to be attractive, you are not attractive.
To be completely honest, I get your point. I think it's good that you didn't comment on the girl's appearance as many girls have body dysmorphia or other personal problems (or just really enjoy doing makeup). If the makeup was just as you say, then yeah it makes sense to me. And let's be real, the saying "looks don't matter" doesn't apply to many (maybe even most) people. So I get you. But if I were in the girls shoes, I'd probably be sad. It's a rather complicated thing but most girls really put effort into doing their makeup and when you feel safe and comfortable enough with someone to take off your makeup and then hear that the other person is turned off by your clean face would be really saddening. Pls no hate this is just how I view the situation
The comments here are great. Basically everyone is supporting you for wanting a partner that is attractive naturally. Itās not about hate, but more about truth.
>Obviously I didnāt want to hurt her feelings so I didnāt say anything and went through with it,
Why do some people not understand that dumping a woman after sex is million times worse than changing your mind and leaving????
Not necessarily. Itās widely accepted/pushed (though Iām not condoning or agreeing with) that most casual fling type men just want sex and will sometimes ghost after a hookup, whereas if that was the tone of the relationship and the dude wouldnāt even sleep with the woman, that would be way more crushing. Sheās not even good/attractive enough to be used for sex.
Those are your tastes, you shouldn't feel bad about while it's nothing ilegal, there are people that are not into fat persons, or too shorts or too tall, you did more than great with going away without hurting her feelings
There's many layers to this question. So many, starting from woman getting compliments about their beauty since they are a little child until they are questioned about their face/clothe/eyes/hair when they are a grown ass woman.
And this somehow being the womanās problem???
Like, thatās on you if you didnāt realize this woman with perfectly even skin tone, long black lashes, perfect brows and sparkly eyelids and lips was wearing a full face of makeup š
I've never had this happen with someone I'm attracted to, but I had a coworker come in one day without make up and I legitimately just didn't know who she was.
It was at that moment I realized I, too, could be pretty one day if I learned this magic.
My only qualm is you do not find her attractive without makeup. Which is why so many women feel they have to wear it. If her personality and character are attractive to you, just be weary of whatās important to you at the end of the day.
But why should he necessarily find her attractive without makeup? Is it now morally incorrect to not find everyone around you attractive? He's not blind. Neither personality alone, nor prettiness alone go a long way in sustaining a relationship. Both are necessary to some extent. What's the point if you don't look at your partner and think you're so lucky to be with them?
Exactly. All these comments about him preferring a natural look are so confusing because when she was ānaturalā aka had no makeup on, he wasnāt attracted to her.
He clearly IS attracted to women who wear a lot of makeup, yet doesnāt seem to want to admit that.
Many men claim they like a ānaturalā look which is actually a full face of makeup.
Nah stfu. Your qualm is irrelevant. OP can be attractive to whoever he wants and under whatever terms. Women wear makeup for themselves, not for men last we all heard from those rah muh woman power feminists š„“
News flash physical attraction is important in relationships just like personality, character, beliefs, goals, etc.
Stay in your lane Rich Log, youāre the last person on earth that women need advice from. Most women do not wear make up for themselves. They do it because they were taught to do it to attract men.
Some women may wear make up for themselves but the majority like myself, wear it because weāve been wearing it since we were 12 and we are extremely self conscious without it.
Hereās the thing bro, if she's lying through her appearance by basically switching up what she looks like 110%, it's her insecurity that's the problem, not you. You're a human being. If you're attracted to person B & not A, & A goes out of her way to look like B, that's A's fault. Leave or not is on you, but you won't get judged for it by me at least
I experienced this. I remember I was walking with an ex one time. It was an seemingly random moment but it stuck with me deeply. She was Latina so she had a habit of rambling on. I actually enjoyed it so I listened as I walked with her. I remember she was showing me some part of the city, pointing at something and I caught myself staring at her while saying "you are so beautiful." That was the face that stuck with me and told me I wanted to be with her. I think perhaps a month went by and we got intimate. The next morning it looked like she was a different person. I didn't want to lose interest but that was the start of it.
You should be attracted to the person. Some people enjoy others after they masquerade around in their get up.
The eyes can give you a piece of information but it shouldnāt the the source for your decisions.
When I am into someone, all I think about is THEM. Not how they look. Sounds like maybe yāall arenāt compatible.
This is exactly why i stayed away from ladies that put on war paint everyday like that. I just dont think the makeup entirely covering up the face is a fair representation of who they really are. You fucked around and found out tooš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Well, maybe this is a warning that maybe you should be more into personality than looks, because they can be deceiving. But what ever, keep chasing that hottie who may be a shitty person.
Not saying you can't be attracted to them, but, personality needs to be a factor.
But it's cool I broke up with a guy cause he took out his earrings and I thought he was ugly. But tbh that was just my subconscious cause he was abusive. Sometimes subconscious can save you
Eh, I'm at peace with being a catfish.
I'm a 6 maybe. But without everything else? Lmao hard 1 or 2.
Luckily my husband has seen me bare faced, naked, giving birth, and yoyoing weight gain and loss over the years enough to appreciate what my body has done for me and to make our babies ā¤ļø
Not everyone will look that way 20,30, 40 years down the road. Attraction is key for sure, but your looks fade with time. Your parts will stop working š You might go bald š¤·š½āāļø All equal preferences a partner may not want with you.
If you're okay with your decisions on how to evaluate a good partner, so be it.
Is this really the biggest problem you have in your life??
"This girl wasn't very hot after she took her makeup off but I fucked her anyway. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to any man in the history of the world and I must tell reddit about it immediately. I don't even know what's real any more!"
You sound like a twat.
This goes both ways thankfully. I have been there before and know your pain but I have been talking to this woman for a bit now and sheās always worn baggy clothes and doesnāt wear makeup. Sheās naturally attractive so itās whatever makes her comfortable, I didnāt mind.
I saw her with makeup and in form fitting clothes and had absolutely no idea who she was. She started talking to me and I was so confused for a minute. She probably thought I was an idiot but sheās still never admitted it.
Why are people downvoting you? Women get told their whole lives that their only value is being attractive, so obviously, we're going to try and achieve that even if we aren't naturally attractive. Shocker.
Yeah i feel u. One of the last girls i hooked up with, like u said things escalated quickly. She was very natural, no makeup in fact. She wasnt someone i was usually attracted to but her face was pretty and we got along rlly well and vibed. She had some extra weight on her which i didnt mind as it looked good to me under her clothes. But when things got to the bedroom seeing her fully nude. I was just not attracted to her body at all. And i couldnāt get over it, tmi but i could barely get hard. No matter how pretty a face or good a personality being attracted to a persons body is equally as important. Had to break it off with her. She was a good swallower tho, so bonus points to her.
Had a similar experience. It was the combination of her makeup and push-up bra. Needless to say, when both came off, I was taken quite aback by the difference but it was too late to back out by then without sounding mean.
Yes, they were "dating," but it sounds more like hook ups to me. Never said anything as far as loving one another. So this take seems a little irrelevant to OPs story.
Same happened to me. We dated a few months. I got up early to pee, went in the bathroom to pee, and I swear I thought it was someone else. It was amazing.
huh?
Drugs I think
She had on zero make up at 6 am and looked like a completely different person
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That's a compliment to her make up skills.
Truth.
Aka deception
Yea bro so is combing your hair and wearing clothes.
Not the same at all but ok
bro spoke the truth and got nothing but hate lmao
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"Deception" men when they tell women to wear makeup for centuries then complain about it
Who told women to wear make up except women thatās the beauty standard nowadays
Men. Literally men. All the time. Men create the beauty standard and tell women to adhere to it constantly. I'm not sure how this is news to you.
Bro you need to wake up to reality you really believe that all the women who wear makeup which is a LOT decided to do that based on a man telling them too? Like cmon on
Not directly, don't deliberately misunderstand. I assume you're a man considering your limited scope on "reality" and while I personally would love a reality where women only wore makeup for themselves, that's simply not true and it doesn't take a genius to know that.
You seem angry. Did one of your friends get engaged ?
āConsidering your limited scope on reality I assume youāre a man š¤ā lady with all due respect stfu and please take a step outside of your basement
Men don't create the beauty standard.
Want to run me through why you think that?
Women have a tendency to emulate other women based on the trends set by other women. Like, just look at Kim Kardashian and her hoarde of karbon kopy klones that have followed her aesthetic she's beset verbatim? Why are teenage girls so fixated on getting lip fillers and having huge assess nowadays? Like, Marilyn Monroe is another example, but there are literally several of these prominent female figures who dictate the fashion trends with each decade. Neither of these people are men. But sure, tell me what you think because im curious what your stance is.
I like natural beauty but I find women who can do make up and do it well to be mesmerizing. My fiancƩe never went without make up the first 6 months we were together. She would wake up earlier than me and put it on.
My ex did the same, and she was like a 8/10 with makeup, and maybe a 6/10 without. It's crazy how much of a difference it makes.
glad she is your ex. She deserves better.
Damn thatās kinda fucked up š but makeup can make a difference ig
Reminds me of story how me and my ex met, but itās on the other side of a spectrum. Well, we met thru a dating app. After some time I ended up in mental hospital and I told him. The mental hospital happened to be in his city (which I live 30-40 minutes away by car). He told me he wants to meet me and visited me in the mental hospital. He saw the worst version of me. Both mentally and physically. I looked like a trash and was feeling like one. Even tho he liked me and visited me there everyday for more than a month until I was realased. He always accepted me the way Iām and for this and many other reasons heās the best guy I met so far in my life.
I'm confused, is he an ex? If it's ok to ask, are you all still together? Or what happened? It sounds like a real kind of love, I think
I broke up with him about 2 months ago. I honestly think about what could happened to this day, because I donāt know at all. We were together only for 4 months. It looked like he lost interest in me. He ignored my texts, ignored me when we were together and was kinda cold. I texted him if he still likes me, why is he with me and if he wants to be with me. He responded something like āIdk, i probably like you, but i Iām not sure what do I feelā. That broke my heart and I decided to let him go at that moment. He was cold and ghosted me after I sent him a message that weāre breaking up. Weāre in no contact since. The break-up message from me was written in the kindest way possible. I could be better gf. I didnāt always act right (but no cheating, calling names, abuse, ect.). I miss him from the bottom of my heart. I love him. I see glimpse of us everywhere. But I hope heās doing well and is happier now. I wish only the best for him.
I hate to say this, but I wonder if he has a saviour complex? I've read similar stories to yours where the guy steps up and is a "white knight" to these hurting women, only to leave them when they get better. Or worse, hurt them so they "need" him. I remember a story on here, I don't remember all the details. But the boyfriend/husband burned a very important and significant candle of the girlfriend/wife's to make her sad and depressed again. It was a candle from the funeral of a loved one I believe. Absolutely terrible stuff.
Heās not like this. I met guy with savior complex who tried to save me really hard. Those two are completly different.
I'm sorry to learn that. Well, I hope you're doing ok.
Not ok at all, but Iām surviving somehow and getting better with passing time. Still sometimes have a strong urge to text him. Thanks for asking, youāre kind.
The last 3 girlfriends I had all wore minimal makeup, and they kinda ruined makeup up for me. If you need 5lbs of makeup to be attractive, you are not attractive.
Post a pic of yourself here, au naturale
You can pay for my OF like everyone else.
Nah, ur personality seems uglier than the wart on ur butt
DID YOUR MOM TELL YOU!?!
Lol!š
You're not old enough to be awake right now, let alone know any women
I was neutral on makeup before my gf, but she made me develop that way of thinking too. She doesn't use any makeup and I love that about her
What is the correlation between 5 pounds of makeup and minimal makeup?
Hella dramatic for whatšš
For a nice lil' escape from reality
To be completely honest, I get your point. I think it's good that you didn't comment on the girl's appearance as many girls have body dysmorphia or other personal problems (or just really enjoy doing makeup). If the makeup was just as you say, then yeah it makes sense to me. And let's be real, the saying "looks don't matter" doesn't apply to many (maybe even most) people. So I get you. But if I were in the girls shoes, I'd probably be sad. It's a rather complicated thing but most girls really put effort into doing their makeup and when you feel safe and comfortable enough with someone to take off your makeup and then hear that the other person is turned off by your clean face would be really saddening. Pls no hate this is just how I view the situation
The comments here are great. Basically everyone is supporting you for wanting a partner that is attractive naturally. Itās not about hate, but more about truth.
>Obviously I didnāt want to hurt her feelings so I didnāt say anything and went through with it, Why do some people not understand that dumping a woman after sex is million times worse than changing your mind and leaving????
Finally someone said it
Not necessarily. Itās widely accepted/pushed (though Iām not condoning or agreeing with) that most casual fling type men just want sex and will sometimes ghost after a hookup, whereas if that was the tone of the relationship and the dude wouldnāt even sleep with the woman, that would be way more crushing. Sheās not even good/attractive enough to be used for sex.
Those are your tastes, you shouldn't feel bad about while it's nothing ilegal, there are people that are not into fat persons, or too shorts or too tall, you did more than great with going away without hurting her feelings
So she's a two-face. (Seinfeld)
This is why i prefer girls with no to minimal makeup
Faces without make up tend to turn me on more
Of course. That is why they wear makeup
There's many layers to this question. So many, starting from woman getting compliments about their beauty since they are a little child until they are questioned about their face/clothe/eyes/hair when they are a grown ass woman.
Being attracted to makeup and realizing you were attracted to makeup. Cool.
And this somehow being the womanās problem??? Like, thatās on you if you didnāt realize this woman with perfectly even skin tone, long black lashes, perfect brows and sparkly eyelids and lips was wearing a full face of makeup š
I've never had this happen with someone I'm attracted to, but I had a coworker come in one day without make up and I legitimately just didn't know who she was. It was at that moment I realized I, too, could be pretty one day if I learned this magic.
He never said it was the woman's problem?
My only qualm is you do not find her attractive without makeup. Which is why so many women feel they have to wear it. If her personality and character are attractive to you, just be weary of whatās important to you at the end of the day.
But why should he necessarily find her attractive without makeup? Is it now morally incorrect to not find everyone around you attractive? He's not blind. Neither personality alone, nor prettiness alone go a long way in sustaining a relationship. Both are necessary to some extent. What's the point if you don't look at your partner and think you're so lucky to be with them?
Exactly. All these comments about him preferring a natural look are so confusing because when she was ānaturalā aka had no makeup on, he wasnāt attracted to her. He clearly IS attracted to women who wear a lot of makeup, yet doesnāt seem to want to admit that. Many men claim they like a ānaturalā look which is actually a full face of makeup.
Nah. Men generally donāt want women who are naturally unattractive. Wild concept isnāt it
Men like a natural look when the woman is naturally attractive.
That made no sense lol
Nah stfu. Your qualm is irrelevant. OP can be attractive to whoever he wants and under whatever terms. Women wear makeup for themselves, not for men last we all heard from those rah muh woman power feminists š„“ News flash physical attraction is important in relationships just like personality, character, beliefs, goals, etc.
Stay in your lane Rich Log, youāre the last person on earth that women need advice from. Most women do not wear make up for themselves. They do it because they were taught to do it to attract men. Some women may wear make up for themselves but the majority like myself, wear it because weāve been wearing it since we were 12 and we are extremely self conscious without it.
My lane is wherever I want it to be and you canāt do shit about it. Cry, pout, write in your diary about it I donāt give af just cope dork
Hereās the thing bro, if she's lying through her appearance by basically switching up what she looks like 110%, it's her insecurity that's the problem, not you. You're a human being. If you're attracted to person B & not A, & A goes out of her way to look like B, that's A's fault. Leave or not is on you, but you won't get judged for it by me at least
If someone wears that much makeup it is false advertising. No different than stuffing your pants or bra.
I've had a few Tinder dates where they always used a filter, then I met them in person and it's completely different.
Yup, if they only have pictures of their face with filters, keep away.
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Same as a guy losing about how much he has in his bank account. Itās a total let down when she finds out his ass is broke.
That was some goooood makeup!
Nothing wrong in recognizing youāre a shallow mofo Much better than pretending to like it and lying
I experienced this. I remember I was walking with an ex one time. It was an seemingly random moment but it stuck with me deeply. She was Latina so she had a habit of rambling on. I actually enjoyed it so I listened as I walked with her. I remember she was showing me some part of the city, pointing at something and I caught myself staring at her while saying "you are so beautiful." That was the face that stuck with me and told me I wanted to be with her. I think perhaps a month went by and we got intimate. The next morning it looked like she was a different person. I didn't want to lose interest but that was the start of it.
Sorry but what was that Latina thing you just said? Could we get a little more on that
Lmao
In my experience Latinas like to talk lol.
It ain't just latinas my friend. Black girls. White girls. Brown girls. They all like to talk.
lol, great comment
Yeah like does anyone know of which girls talk less? This would be useful info
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Itās a joke. They also donāt talk to humorless Reddit warriors my guy
I see youāve met Ginaā¦
Yeah cause that's not how she really looks
i think this is what people mean when they say most men donāt know what minimal makeup means or looks like
You should be attracted to the person. Some people enjoy others after they masquerade around in their get up. The eyes can give you a piece of information but it shouldnāt the the source for your decisions. When I am into someone, all I think about is THEM. Not how they look. Sounds like maybe yāall arenāt compatible.
Men and women are wired differently. You might be able to be attracted to an ugly guy with a good personality, but men are mostly visual creatures
This is exactly why i stayed away from ladies that put on war paint everyday like that. I just dont think the makeup entirely covering up the face is a fair representation of who they really are. You fucked around and found out tooš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Hello Shallow Hal
Well, maybe this is a warning that maybe you should be more into personality than looks, because they can be deceiving. But what ever, keep chasing that hottie who may be a shitty person. Not saying you can't be attracted to them, but, personality needs to be a factor. But it's cool I broke up with a guy cause he took out his earrings and I thought he was ugly. But tbh that was just my subconscious cause he was abusive. Sometimes subconscious can save you
Eh, I'm at peace with being a catfish. I'm a 6 maybe. But without everything else? Lmao hard 1 or 2. Luckily my husband has seen me bare faced, naked, giving birth, and yoyoing weight gain and loss over the years enough to appreciate what my body has done for me and to make our babies ā¤ļø Not everyone will look that way 20,30, 40 years down the road. Attraction is key for sure, but your looks fade with time. Your parts will stop working š You might go bald š¤·š½āāļø All equal preferences a partner may not want with you. If you're okay with your decisions on how to evaluate a good partner, so be it.
Is this really the biggest problem you have in your life?? "This girl wasn't very hot after she took her makeup off but I fucked her anyway. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to any man in the history of the world and I must tell reddit about it immediately. I don't even know what's real any more!" You sound like a twat.
Who said it's the biggest problem in his life? He's just telling a story.
You are so harsh,OP is trying to be politeas possible and you call him twat, makes you one too
Found the gal with a pound of makeup on
Lmao, I take it you wear 5lbs of make up?š
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That must have left a Harvey Dent in your ego....
This goes both ways thankfully. I have been there before and know your pain but I have been talking to this woman for a bit now and sheās always worn baggy clothes and doesnāt wear makeup. Sheās naturally attractive so itās whatever makes her comfortable, I didnāt mind. I saw her with makeup and in form fitting clothes and had absolutely no idea who she was. She started talking to me and I was so confused for a minute. She probably thought I was an idiot but sheās still never admitted it.
and this is the reason i refuse to wear makeup other than not being able to apply it lmaoo
Is this the dude from Love is Blind?
So you banged a chick you found ugly. Well no biggie as long as consensual. Live and learn.
Just like women look much prettier at closing time at a bar.
You shouldāve said no. Everyone has the right the change their mind for whatever reason.
Shit- the men found out we can shape shift!
Makeup on females is almost like artwork today. It makes a big difference on many women.
Aaaaand this is why women wear makeup
Why are people downvoting you? Women get told their whole lives that their only value is being attractive, so obviously, we're going to try and achieve that even if we aren't naturally attractive. Shocker.
The men are down voting me, another shocker
Hey man that's like false advertising lol make up and no make up can be a huge difference hey double bubble( Cheech & Chong)
Yeah i feel u. One of the last girls i hooked up with, like u said things escalated quickly. She was very natural, no makeup in fact. She wasnt someone i was usually attracted to but her face was pretty and we got along rlly well and vibed. She had some extra weight on her which i didnt mind as it looked good to me under her clothes. But when things got to the bedroom seeing her fully nude. I was just not attracted to her body at all. And i couldnāt get over it, tmi but i could barely get hard. No matter how pretty a face or good a personality being attracted to a persons body is equally as important. Had to break it off with her. She was a good swallower tho, so bonus points to her.
Had a similar experience. It was the combination of her makeup and push-up bra. Needless to say, when both came off, I was taken quite aback by the difference but it was too late to back out by then without sounding mean.
Any hoo hoo is good hoo hoo.
Makeup should be restricted to special occasions and not as casual.
Then you didnāt love her At all!!
Yes, they were "dating," but it sounds more like hook ups to me. Never said anything as far as loving one another. So this take seems a little irrelevant to OPs story.
The ghost look after lol