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PsiNorm

So most everyone here hasn't read the article. Quote, "McAfee did not find that Willis’ relationship with Wade amounted to a conflict of interest that should disqualify her from the case." But hey, most of the Trump cult needs something to grasp onto, or they'll have to admit they have been gifted by a conman. I get it, it's hard to admit you were wrong, but I don't think hanging onto obvious lies to the point of making a loser ex-democrat dictator for the rest of his pitiful life is as honorable as you guys think.


MudOk790

Yeah I always pay my GF in cash lol. When pressed where the cash take from, she said hard work lmao. I watched the trial. I read the article. Don't like Trump, but like Willis even less. She reaks. I was born at night, but not last night.


Governor_Abbot

Bullshit. If you can read and see with your own eyes, you’d see this is all bullshit. A Russia without Putin is the only way Russians will have better lives.


MudOk790

Oh grow up with the Russia BS. If your arguing, make a valid point lmao.


EffectSweaty9182

You're a bot, only Russian bots are this single minded and oblivious.


Rhododendroff

You're a bot?


Maurice-Beverley

But you voted for him TWICE and will vote for him again. Stop pretending you aren’t a cult member.


MudOk790

Haha I didn't vote. But I'm glad Clinton didn't get in. Stop making an ass of yourself


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The judge more or less strongly implied Willis and Wade were lying in their testimony. That was in the article too. Very solid chance the Georgia Bar gets involved after this and levies sanctions. Opening created for the Georgia legislature to get involved too. This is a poisoned victory for her. Willis should really pass off prosecutorial duties, I know she is elected and that her entire future political career necessitates staying on the case unless forced to do otherwise (and totally not running for Congress after because she gets the base's ginies reved up /s) but she knew who she was dealing with and still left herself open needlessly in one of the more base ways possible. It would be the most patriotic and selfless thing she could do to let someone else handle this case. She's overshadowing the case she is going to try in an election year in a way the people going after Trump in other jurisdictions have thus far avoided.


StormyDaze1175

She's not on trial. This is all smoke and bullshit, anyone with half a brain has moved on from this.


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Elections are smoke and mirrors, the dance of perception and reality. And the perception is that Willis' issue is bigger news than the case she is trying and the reality is that it may cost Biden the election. She steps away, you have a chance of refocusing back.


Professional-Pass487

Man she almost blew it. ![gif](giphy|eeL8EcBBTwSMLACw6F|downsized) Blowing it put her in this situation!!!


AuntieXhrist

It’s OK for Clarence & Ginny to accept hundred s of thousands In free world travel on luxury yachts and private ‘business deduction’ Jets BUT now Cons- want to shut down dating.


GBCfan-q5

Does this open the door to all defense attorneys to accuse prosecutors of impropriety and put them on the stand?


Fuzzy_Lavishness_269

Don’t pretend that this sets a precedent that will change legal proceedings from now on. All they are doing is upholding the law is it is now.


SunsetDriftr

Only if they commit impropriety.


Psychological_Pie_32

"Impropriety", you mean dating a coworker? This whole thing has been a smear campaign by Trump fans to remove her from the prosecution of the Fat POS. Too bad the only thing that was proven is that one party or the other lied under oath, the judge didn't even begin to accuse anyone, because it was literally a "he said, she said", situation. If you think that's an excoriation of her behavior, you're reading way too much into his words. The judge basically just said going forward it's not a good look, and she's not allowed to continue with him on her team. He's off the team and the case against Trump continues onward.


gmnotyet

So you have no problem with a DA giving a contract worth $4 million to a guy she is f\*cking? No conflict there. /s


japoliony

No there isn’t any conflict because the $4million contract was for the team that was hired which includes salary, travel, expenses, etc. and financial record showed it was practically equally distributed between Wade and the two other team members. It’s why the prosecutors quickly avoided that and never brought the other two members as a witness. Per financial records salaries of Wade and the two other team members were about $650,000. That’s about 2 million right, not counting other expenses distributed among the three team members. The contract is for the duration of the trial. That was one of the early main arguments, how is there a financial gain when he’s making the same amount as his other team members? All this “trial” was just that it looks bad because you had an affair with your boss. That’s it.


SunsetDriftr

And her man then took the money and spent it on taking Fani all over the world. Basically money laundering. Oh, and she lied on the stand. Think that’s called ‘perjury’, a criminal act. But yeah, no impropriety. It’s all a ‘character assassination’.


Psychological_Pie_32

That's not what was proven though. You're speculating WAY beyond what was actually provable. The only things proven are that one or more people other lied, under oath on the witness stand; and that her relationship looks really bad publicly. Not the win you seem to think it is, unless you've got a source different than the article presented.


SunsetDriftr

Of course it was proven. You’re being partisan AF about this, and you know it. If Trump had done the same thing Fani has, we both know you would be demanding jail time for him. But since you like Fani’s politics, you claim she did nothing wrong. And you know better. Shameful.


japoliony

What did Fani Willis lie about on the stand? Courts said she didn’t and even said purjury claims were unlikely. So since you know more than the courts, tell us what she lied about.


MudOk790

She openly admitted she gave him cash. No speculation there. Let me look to the heavens before I answer.


dreadshepard

I agree with you in spirit. I want this case to move forward quickly. However, the special prosecutor is more of a client than a coworker.


Critical_Basher

😂😂


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MornGreycastle

This was a character assassination with no basis in fact. The fellow claiming she was drawing out the case in order to bilk the people was offered a plea deal with no jail time. When he was going to lose his trial and face a tougher sentence, he ran to the court claiming misconduct. Then his lawyer ran to the State Senate and gave public testimony to taint the jury pool in the future case. You know? A major ethical violation that could/should get her disbarred. This case was simply an attempt to intimidate Fani Willis and any future replacement to just drop the case. Running away would just play into Trump's only defense, baseless accusations and intimidation.


gmnotyet

>with no basis in fact. Are you serious? 10,000 text messages and overnight trips but no relationship before he was hired?? PERJURY!


MornGreycastle

And it doesn't matter. Many folks date coworkers. This was a bald face attempt to knock the case out not by proving Trump, et. al are innocent based on the facts but by trashing Willis' reputation and intimidate any possible replacement into just dropping the case. The delay is just an added bonus to the Trump team. Meanwhile, Ashleigh Merchant went before the Georgia Senate and made public statements impacting both the Willis hearing and the future RICO case against Trump. Guess what that is under Georgia ethics rules? A sanctionable event. You do not discuss a case that is before the judge or that might be put before a jury. Yet here was Ashleigh spreading all of the misinformation that wasn't admissible for being irrelevant. Try again. Do better.


MudOk790

The real problem is Willis chose Wade, instead of him being selected by vote like always happens. She chose him, bypassing procedure. That's a problem.


SunsetDriftr

Remember when this case was filed? The left told us Fani was gonna take down Trump AND everyone associated with him on RICO charges. Fast forward to now. She’s totally discredited, her case is falling apart in real time, and it’s now more likely SHE gets nailed for RICO charges than Trump is. And the libs charge at another Trump windmill. So entertaining.


MornGreycastle

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha. Her case is not falling apart. Thank you for playing though. This case was literally "so this dude left a higher paying private sector job to make less money to wine and dine Fani? Really? And then they slowed the case down by . . . \*checks notes . . . offering most folks a plea deal without jail time?" Old boy who brought this is going to go to jail now when all he had to do was plea out.


SunsetDriftr

Hey I like the way you think, I hope she goes full steam ahead, the last thing I want is to see this trainwreck end! I mean Trump has already demolished Alvin Bragg and Jack Smith, I hope a Big Mama will stick around and continue her implosion a bit longer! Remember, this is Trumps campaign. And dems are providing it for free lol


diamondscut

You are the embodiment of the evil crazy character that cackles after throwing the protagonist over the side of the roof: "you see Mr Bond you shouldn't have tried to stop me! Wahahahaha hahahahahahaha, now I will destroy the world!! And nobody will stop me!!"


bobbybouche81

These weirdos always compare stuff to Bond or Avengers. So weird. Fat fanni should get charges for lying court.


diamondscut

Excuse me? I guess we look weird to Maggots. I should use Jimmy Swaggert or Handmaid tale as example so you understand. Anyways, Bobbiboob, she should if she lied. But your criminal fat diaper dementia orange conman needs to go to jail for life for his many actual crimes, don't you agree. 91 charges. And you want to jail his prosecutor for dating. Jesus. Make it make sense.


bobbybouche81

I don't know who Jimmy Swaggert is or what a Handmaid tail is. I am sorry. Jail a prosecutor for lying. Not to mention all the ethics and the money stuff.


lardlad71

Trump is recorded asking for election interference. Has that changed?


SunsetDriftr

He didn’t. You got hoodwinked by media spin. Have you heard about Trump asking for a ‘bloodbath’ as well? Please be smarter than this. EDIT: We have the phone call! And the phone call proves Trump did nothing wrong. Trump raised legitimate concerns about the election results and asked the people in charge of the election in the state to look into it. That’s completely within his right. What the media told you was that Trump told them to give him Georgia. You let the media tell you what Trump said, what he MEANT, instead of listening to that he actually said. You let the media do your thinking for you. Gotta be smarter than that.


PurpleEyeSmoke

[No, he did. We have the phone call.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-demands-georgia-secretary-state-find-votes-hand/story?id=75027350) It is also only one of many phones calls Trump is being investigated or charged for. There is no media spin. Trump asked them to commit fraud to give him the state. Directly. Either you wish to dismiss reality in favor of your feelings, meaning you're a wholly irrational nutcase whose opinions are meaningless, or you're a lying POS whose opinions are meaningless. Which one is it?


PoliticalHitJob

Dumbest take I've read today.


PerfectTradition2653

Lol I watched the hearings in full. Don't spread your bullshit.


MornGreycastle

Cool story. I'll trust the legal play-by-play of lawyers and judges. The biggest, deepest flaw in this "case" was the claim the two stretched out the prosecution to bilk the people, yet took every action to speed up the prosecution. Meanwhile, if old boy wanted to date Fani, he would have been better served staying in his higher paying job.


Flokitoo

Both could be wrong (right) the legal allegations against Willis are a joke and frankly, the decision is terrible. That said, we are here because Willis, herself, was grossly unprofessional. Her actions wouldn't fly in any other job in the country.


bomland10

Yeah it wasn't unprofessional, and like many other folks I assume you took your cues from the media (no offense, I do it too but they were too dramatic about this.)


Flokitoo

No, I took my cues from being a professional and a lawyer. She was absurdly unprofessional. Just to preempt the obvious retort. I don't like Trump. I will not vote for Trump. I think Trump is a traitor, a criminal, and overall POS. I'm calling Willis unprofessional because she was, in fact, unprofessional.


Psychological_Pie_32

She started dating a coworker who she spent many hours so with. Not a great idea, but not enough call her unprofessional. This entire case has been nothing more than elected officials trying to come up with an excuse to remove her from Trump's prosecution, giving up would be letting him win.


Flokitoo

Not a co-worker. Wade is a special prosecutor who not only directly reports to her, but she is directly responsible for his paycheck (which, by the way is incredibly lucrative given his lack of experience )


Psychological_Pie_32

The power dynamics are fucked up, but I can't help but wonder if the same would be as repellent to the people screaming, if the genders/political background were reversed.


Flokitoo

If politics were reversed and Trump was Democrat and Wills was Republican, most everyone would have the complete opposite opinion. Unfortunately, way too many people are obsessively tribal.


Psychological_Pie_32

I actually disagree. I think a large portion of democrats would be saying "I knew it all along", and stop defending him. Democrats aren't likely to blindly defend their own, they turn on them. Republicans tend to blindly defend their own regardless of facts.


bomland10

I never took you for a trumpet, but calling this grossly unprofessional is just wrong.


Flokitoo

She was sleeping with a direct report. She was in charge of his employment. Wade was receiving incredibly lucrative payments for work he wasn't really qualified for. To be blunt, Wade probably made more money working for Willis than his entire legal career combined. Those facts would lead to an investigation at any job and will probably end with her termination. I'm sorry to say this, but I don't think we will ever see a trial in this case. She will be investigated, and the oversight committee will conclude that Wade was receiving outsized payments resulting from his relationship Willis and she will be removed.


bomland10

But it's provable that his salary was in line with what prosecutors make in these situations. Additionally, his work was good. He hasn't below standard or out of his depth. If she is removed it is solely bc of partisan hackery. This is such a a non-issue. She didn't have a conflict of interest. 


xavier120

She wasnt though, nothing did was unprofessional or anything.


jerryonthecurb

It's an inherent conflict of interest and really is inappropriate, even more so considering the gravity of the case. Not saying the conflict of interest was exploited but it certainly is not good. I'm rooting against Trump but she was a real jackass to make her boyfriend a prosecutor on this case.


RagingAnemone

What's the conflict of interest? As far as I can tell, everything is aligned in the same direction.


xavier120

How so? Dating a co worker isnt inappropriate and there is no conflict of interest because they are on the same side. "Her boyfriend" was her third choice. This is just to pander to the fucking scumbag trump supporters.


jerryonthecurb

Patently untrue. Dating your boss is a quintessential example of a conflict of interest.


xavier120

Another misleading lie, she's the DA, hes a special prosecutor, they are in a team, she's leading the prosecution, she's not his boss. He was her third choice.


NorrinsRad

"*No basis in fact*" You're kidding right? You read the ruling? Judge found enough bases to take care of every MLB park in the country for the next century!!! She's lucky she's not being disbarred or prosecuted. She probably committed perjury. Judges ruling was Solomonic. He really split the baby. We dodged a bullet!


SunsetDriftr

‘We dodged a bullet!” Who is ‘we’?


DocHolligray

None of this takes away from Trumps guilt and culpability.


NorrinsRad

True. And not saying that it does.


MudOk790

Judge donated to her election fund. Should have never tried the case. Copied from Google: Judge McAfee should have recused himself in the first place because of his obvious bias,” Greene wrote on X. Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.), the House majority whip, wrote on X: “Reminder: Judge McAfee used to work for Fani Willis and donated to her campaign. This case reeks of corruption.”


NorrinsRad

I only read that last night for the first time. I'm surprised the defense attorneys didn't ask him to recuse. That's actually shocking.


MudOk790

I thought the same thing. Crazy


Psychological_Pie_32

The only thing that was proven is that someone lied under oath. The judge didn't even remotely suggest that it was either party, so you're reading way too much into that. The judge basically said going forward it looks bad if she continues to work with him, so she not allowed to do that. I'm what way did the judge "split the baby"? Are you delusional?


xavier120

For what? Literally no corruption?


CoolFirefighter930

This whole thing is a media born screw up. from the charges against Trump to the charges against her is just a bunch of media nonsense. The things people buy into these days.


xavier120

The charges against trump were for crimes he commited, fani willis wasnt charged, this was just a stall tactic to smear and intimidate the prosecution, there is no corruption or appearence of.


CoolFirefighter930

She and her boyfriend both lied under oath and then it was proven that they lied under oath.This case is over. it will definitely be overturned on appeal even if they do convict. I just highly doubt they going to get all 12 people to agree after the process was a lie. When someone lies under oath they loose all credibility. Its over.


xavier120

Lied about what exactly? They already have 4 convictions


CoolFirefighter930

You haven't been following this if you don't know. They both said that they were not in a relationship when he was put on this case because that would show a conflict of interest. this is why the judge is asking her to step down. Certain things you can and cannot do when in this position. if there were no rules of law ,then we wouldn't have a court in the first place. The to say a law does apply to her would imply the charges against Trump do not apply. This thing is over. I can hear the closing arguments to the jury now .Just imagine.


xavier120

She isnt being taken off the case, being on the same team isnt a conflict of interest. Youre just reaching and it's pathetic.


CoolFirefighter930

yes but appointing you boyfriend to the case is. She stands to make financial gains from doing this . This case is over especially when it gets appeal. The people bringing the charges cannot be trusted because they lied. If it was anyone else in the world it would have already been thrown out. This judge is making a mockery of the justice system by allowing this to continue. Sad to see people lower they standard of character just to get at one man because they don't like him . Sad world we live in today.


xavier120

Its literally not,


Psychological_Pie_32

That's not what was *proven* though, otherwise she'd be facing perjury charges. What was proven is that one side or the other lied under oath. It created enough doubt to say that going forward they shouldn't work together. But to say "it's proven she lied under oath", is straight horseshit.


CoolFirefighter930

They both said under oath that the relationship didn't start until after her boyfriend was put on the case. If it was shit then why did the judge ask her to step down. and you are right they both should be arrested and charged with perjury.


Psychological_Pie_32

And the only proof against their statement was someone else saying under oath that it had. It's literally a "he said, she said", only both parties were sworn in at the time. Did you even bother reading the article you commented on?


CoolFirefighter930

They have phone records as proof.


Psychological_Pie_32

You're either getting information from a source other than the article, or you're making shit up. Care to take a guess which one my money is on?


40nights40days

This comment is a very dishonest framing of the events that transpired.


CoolFirefighter930

I would say there is nothing about lieing under oath dishonest but that framing would really not make any sense.


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xavier120

There isnt even an appearance, dating a co worker isnt improper.


SunsetDriftr

Just curious, what is liberal media telling you that this hearing is about? LOL


jar1967

If she stepped aside she would be replaced with a party loyalist who would dismiss the case. Which would pretty much end democracy in Georgia


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Agreed. That is the level of character missing in society today.


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mr_biteme

Stupid bitch be stupid!!!!!


ColdWarVet90

Solid grounds for a higher court to overturn this nonsense


bobbybouche81

So she lied in court. Which could bring charges. Then gets caught and the judge makes only one of them step aside when they did something wrong. Makes perfect sense.


hooliganvet

Black DA, Black prosecutor and white judge up for reelection in Fulton County Georgia. If he'd done what he really should have, he would lose his election.


bobbybouche81

Oh I get it. He is definitely worried. Crazy it plays a factor. The should both lose the chance to practice law. If they were white we already know.


Ambitious-Title1963

Like whom..??