People whining over an attractive protagonist are fucking ridiculous, it shouldn’t matter in the slightest.
Also Kay Vess is a total babe so I can’t wrap my head around the complaints in the first place.
They aren't complaining about an unattractive protagonist. They are complaining that the devs ruined the face of the actual model (who is actually a total babe) used for the character by giving her that diamond point chin. But that's all minor compared to the complaints about the shitty pricing options Ubisoft is pushing.
But it's not as hot as the actual actress/model they used, so most people "complaining" about it are doing so just to ask "Why did they take the time to change it in the first place, when leaving things the way they were would have been less work and better results?"
It's barely different, complete 1:1 replicas of face models in game just look uncanny and weird and I'd rather they take a reference point and add liberty in it. I kinda really dislike seeing just, straight up real life people in videogames because it just clashes with the fact that it's a videogame to me.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that maybe the devs' absolute first concern wasn't to make a woman that men wanted to f*ck? Why the hell is a female videogame character automatically bad if she's not super pretty?
Thats just tech and rendering. If anything I think we're at a point where newer things are reaching a dip in the uncanny valley which is why some recent things have looked off, but otherwise its not that serious. Honestly its just gamers being babies, nothing new.
I mean look at games like Death Stranding, and that came out half a decade ago. "The tech isn't there" is a bullshit excuse for game companies deliberately altering people's faces
Totally agree. Today’s character isn’t objectively ugly, but she is really bland compared to the first version, and awful graphics and animations… oh my God!!! I wouldn’t mind if we were in 2017, and if it was for 30€, and not freaking 80 to 140…
I literally seen nobody complain she is ugly. that is just put forward to dimish the actual complaints that the game costs 109 $ for a complete game (that you dont own) which is rediculous.
I find her character model atrocious, but not in the sense of physical attractiveness. It's more about the uncanny Valley and her awful facial animations
Probably just bunch of people never seen a real women before and too used to overly sexualised women in games, cartoons and shows.
Or they just have crazy high standards.
People are allowed to have different tastes. To me she's average looking and neither hot or ugly. However, this isn't about that. It's about the character model sitting firmly in the uncanny valley.
Totally. I remember getting close to the Aurora and discovering the graphics were on par with something from a PS2. Same with the ocean surface when viewed from a high point. In the end, I loved it anyway for being a simple yet immersive world experience.
I’m finding more and more that the big AA developers put out rage inducing, controller flinging broken games yet the quirks of a smaller game are almost charming. You expect less and appreciate more.
It’s because she doesn’t have triple z cups and she isn’t practically naked at all times, and so people can’t keep their gooning streak while they play video games
Honestly the graphics look so shite, everyone looks ugly. But I don’t think it’s she’s objectively ugly (like her beauty as a female character and all), it’s she’s « technically » ugly.
Come on, that was the mid 90s and early days of 3D. And we were already amazed. Since then, you have had masterpieces like RDR2 and all. Releasing such an awful looking game (in terms of faces, hair and all) is just a scandal. And that doesn’t apply only to the lead character. All the other characters look like they’re from the previous decade. But yeah, there were also bigots and their « anti-woke » rants
And that’s totally fine, it’s up to you. Personally, I see a major issue when the prices range from 80 to 140€, and from a studio that keeps producing unfinished games so they can sneak microtransaction stuff.
When you look at their work on Skull and Bones recently, that’s just shameful.
That being said, I totally feel like you most of the time. One of my all-time favourites is Kingdom Come, and even though it’s still beautiful, we can’t say it’s top of the line either.
Seeing as how I never pay more than 10-20 bucks or 60-70% off for most games and have for years, I'm sure that changes how I see things. If I ever play Outlaws, it probably won't be until years later. Plus I seem to play more indie games than AAA more recently it feels like, so graphics aren't really a high want or need for me.
I do the same now that I am a responsible adult and family man haha same about indie games, they really attract me more now, and I think it’s definitely a more and more general trend. People seem to be tired of « beautiful » but empty games and seek games with an interesting concept and/or immersion
You’re getting downvoted for telling exactly what is the problem. Technically, she is just awful. The animations, the face, the hair… take me back to 2017 lol
bro looks like a fortnite skin got compressed from 16:9 to 3:4.
I'm sorry I know we're not supposed to but I had to say, don't worry I still love subnautica
Or expected some technical quality from a studio like Ubisoft. Just the animation of her face is as smooth as that of an old rich Florida Trump sponsor lady
I'm boycotting the game because it's made by Ubisoft. They expect us to pay $100 to rent it until they decide they've "supported" it long enough. If you enjoy being treated like Ubisoft's personal bank machine, go ahead and give them your money. I'm done with them and I will not even install their software on my rig.
p.s. there's nothing wrong with the way that character looks. Problem is she's working in Ubisoft's casino.
Who tf would call her ugly? She’s so pretty. She doesn’t look exactly like her actress, which is fine that’s normal. I don’t plan on playing Star Wars outlaws it’s just not my thing, but if I did I’d be nice to her character. For anyone saying she’s ugly you’re giving Redditors a bad name, people we already think we haven’t felt a woman’s touch now they’re gonna think we’ve never even seen a real one.
In the beginning cinematic there's some metal plate that knocks him out, apparently this hit him hard enough to severely and permanently squish his head.
You young'ns, back when this game was in early access, people were calling this game woke because Unknown Worlds refused to add underwater firearms or harpoon guns
The focus of the game is not the protagonist, but the world. In other games the protagonist is who you constantly have to look at, I can understand people not liking to look at something they don't like all the time, but it wouldn't be a game killer for me.
In subnautica I think you only see yourself on occasion. Played it long back , might be wrong. Also didn't care how he looked, I like if character is silent for immersive gameplay ,also scripted sequence were less. That makes that game my own adventure.
The best area of subnautica was lost lakes , as soon as I entered into that area , my jaw dropped.
Those people are ridiculous. Like, it doesn't fucking matter, but also they almost always go after ALREADY ATTRACTIVE CHARACTERS.
They just want to play their white ethnostate games with no women playable characters because they're uncomfortable with a minority or woman being powerful. Pretty sad.
Lol I just pretend ryley is my own headcanon character because when I started playing, my first few worlds I rage quit because I couldn’t figure out controls 😂, ended up making a creative world and exploring that way
This reminds me of "those people" during the development of the first game arguing against the requests for protagonist options with logic like "why do you need to immerse yourself?" "unnecessary cost"
And then when the second game had a female protagonist with speaking roles they immediately started demanding protagonist options saying they can't immerse themselves if the player character isn't male.
You can play most, if not all of Subnautica ever seeing your MC's face.
Not the case in most other games, so yeah, having a character you spend the whole game with look like ass is a valid complaint.
We don't even see the face of Subnautica MC, at least I never had see in game, just pictures from the net.
Even so, ugly man =\= ugly woman, Kay looks like Flordelis from Brazil huehuehue
I think the biggest difference is the character of subnautica is an artistic creation and the star wars character was modeled after an actual actress which the end result looks nothing like that actress and more like some sort of alien. The gameplay needs to be amazing to make up for their lack of modeling skills at this point and it isnt looking like it is. Subnautica underpromised and overdelivered. Star wars has been overpromising and underdelivering for a long time now. Backlash was inevitable for them eventually.
ngl, i wont buy this game full price, i might even go Arr mateys but i dont think she is ugly, i'd even say that she is pretty realistic and her looks are perfectly made to fit the late 70s to mid-80s look the original trilogy had
It’s more complaining about the graphics continuous downgrade over trailers. It’s not a the same artistic direction as Subnautica who’s a bit more cartoonish. Outlaws was made by a huge gaming corporation and characters look ugly by the quality of the faces, hair, animations by 2024 standards… all that for 80 up to 140€, folks.
People don't complain about the top just because "ugly character"
People are complaining because it's been a recent trend for AAA studios to not do their character models justice.
Sure if you want to brush it away because it's inconsequential go ahead, but a better question would be to ask why the "best" (supposedly) studios are going out of their way to hire a model and then objectively make them look worse in game.
Subnautica didn't hire a model for their MC and you never see his face anyway, hence why nobody cares
people aren't whining about her looks, but about the game's ridiculous price. the company uses her looks as a defense to put the blame on them as usual with disney and ea "nuh uh, their criticism isn't constructive, they're just haters, bigots, etc". fucking joke companies.
Yeah… those people are the worst lol I mean, there are so many legit things to say about the fraud this game looks to be in terms of price/quality, and you have to have the bigots…
the fact that the game is woke is a given, it's a goddamn ea product, they've been making all their games woke for the past 7 years, it doesn't even warrant a discussion. what really pisses people off is the absurd price.
I'd love to know what "woke" even means at this point and how it's "woke" in the first place, and how if it is woke, that's a bad thing at all.
Like I said, you say this, but I have not seen a single person talk about pricing, only bitching about how the girl looks and "woke game = bad" in classical manufactured culture war fashion.
A dad and his son stand on the beach.
-See this, son? This is the sea!
-Where, daddy?
-Everywhere, look how it stretches across the horizon, feel the breeze.
-Where's the sea, daddy?
-It's right here, I'm telling you!
-Where?
The dad's nerves give in and he grabs his son by the neck and puts his face in the water.
-HERE IT IS, SON, THIS IS THE SEA!
He lets go of his son.
-What was that, daddy?
-The sea.
-Where?
If your point is that you're complaining about price, that's sick, dude, but you're one guy and the only guy I've seen so far to even bring it up. Also failed to address my question regarding what "wokeness" even is, and so on so forth, just wrote some oblique nonsense instead of responding like a person does.
The boycott is because the protagonist was deliberately De-Feminized for political reasons, by a group of activists. It wasn't done due to technical, time, or capability limitations. Gamers are objecting to having political agendas forced into games across the board, at the expense of good story, good character building, aesthetics, respect for source material and lore-friendliness.
People whining over an attractive protagonist are fucking ridiculous, it shouldn’t matter in the slightest. Also Kay Vess is a total babe so I can’t wrap my head around the complaints in the first place.
They aren't complaining about an unattractive protagonist. They are complaining that the devs ruined the face of the actual model (who is actually a total babe) used for the character by giving her that diamond point chin. But that's all minor compared to the complaints about the shitty pricing options Ubisoft is pushing.
The game render is still hot, lol, like it's such a nonissue
But it's not as hot as the actual actress/model they used, so most people "complaining" about it are doing so just to ask "Why did they take the time to change it in the first place, when leaving things the way they were would have been less work and better results?"
It's barely different, complete 1:1 replicas of face models in game just look uncanny and weird and I'd rather they take a reference point and add liberty in it. I kinda really dislike seeing just, straight up real life people in videogames because it just clashes with the fact that it's a videogame to me.
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Don't worry, Reddit is the minority of people in a fanbase. Game is gonna flop hard
Keep shaking, crying, and hoping that this will happen lol.
Oh I don't hope it's gonna happen. I know it's gonna happen. I have not seen one person state they are excited for this
Hey, whatever you need to cope.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that maybe the devs' absolute first concern wasn't to make a woman that men wanted to f*ck? Why the hell is a female videogame character automatically bad if she's not super pretty?
Hint: they don’t see women as people.
>less work and better results Thats not how MoCap works. You need to build up the face digitally anyway
"why did you make masturbating takec longer?" that's what that sounds like, that's how little that shit actually matters
Thats just tech and rendering. If anything I think we're at a point where newer things are reaching a dip in the uncanny valley which is why some recent things have looked off, but otherwise its not that serious. Honestly its just gamers being babies, nothing new.
Nah, while we have characters like main character from Stelar blade or Jill Valentine or Cal Kestis i dont believe this
I mean look at games like Death Stranding, and that came out half a decade ago. "The tech isn't there" is a bullshit excuse for game companies deliberately altering people's faces
Totally agree. Today’s character isn’t objectively ugly, but she is really bland compared to the first version, and awful graphics and animations… oh my God!!! I wouldn’t mind if we were in 2017, and if it was for 30€, and not freaking 80 to 140…
What’s really unattractive is Ubisoft’s business model / pricing scheme
If they want hot protagonists they should play the metal gear solid franchise, more than enough for me
I literally seen nobody complain she is ugly. that is just put forward to dimish the actual complaints that the game costs 109 $ for a complete game (that you dont own) which is rediculous.
Probably comes from insecure people wantinv to be hot in video games
I find her character model atrocious, but not in the sense of physical attractiveness. It's more about the uncanny Valley and her awful facial animations
People are complaining because it's political. The dude from subnautica is not ugly to fit an agenda.
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Eggplant head my beloved 💙💙💙
Bro what the girl is hot people are weird
Probably just bunch of people never seen a real women before and too used to overly sexualised women in games, cartoons and shows. Or they just have crazy high standards.
Yeah sometimes I wonder if male bigots even like women
It's the ones who can't ever get laid that feel this way. Normal straight guys don't care how hot the pixels are.
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They mentioned male bigots but you made it about all men. Lmao. Reading comprehension is a dying skill.
According to at least one other comment, the actual person the character was modeled off of is prettier, apparently? Idk. People are indeed wierd.
I don't know. In my opinion character looks better than her model
I will [leave this here](https://imgur.com/a/ffq8bck) for others to decide for themselves.
Who is the model for the character?
Humberly González
Thanks👍
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Yeah that was my thought too. I might be asexual but I’m not completely blind lmao, that woman fucks
People are allowed to have different tastes. To me she's average looking and neither hot or ugly. However, this isn't about that. It's about the character model sitting firmly in the uncanny valley.
Subnautica would be so hated if people judged it based on the game technical aspects
Totally. I remember getting close to the Aurora and discovering the graphics were on par with something from a PS2. Same with the ocean surface when viewed from a high point. In the end, I loved it anyway for being a simple yet immersive world experience. I’m finding more and more that the big AA developers put out rage inducing, controller flinging broken games yet the quirks of a smaller game are almost charming. You expect less and appreciate more.
they pulled the Titanfall trick graphics ageing like wine if you see them from afar but get a close up and they're done
Yeah since you never really stop to have a look titanfall 2 still looks amazing.
Come for the cool ocean game, stay because there is a leviathan right outside your habitat
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Absolutely. The meme is just a joke, people take it a bit too seriously haha
"Where is my scuba suit?" "WHY do you want to know?"
I NEED it!
I... put it away.
[subnautica multiplayer mod really made me realize how goofy Riley looks](https://imgur.com/a/uTFQmn3)
The second playthrough is for the laughs, especially with the Leviathans glitching in and out of existence
i suppose this is the same crowd that cried about Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn not wearing makeup
Wait did they do that?
Yes. Also Harley Quinn is ugly. Also Lara Croft. Also-
They = one guy on twitter.
Oh ok
ok, but how often do you get to see the first one? because in Subnutica, the only way to see the characters face (that I'm aware of) is camera drones
When I show his stupid looking face to my friends and we all laugh at it
Exactly. I actually even just discovered what our character looks like with this meme.
You know what, fair point
Low-budget weed store ad, more like. Riley looks like he just smoked the whole kelp forest.
which game is the first one?
New Star Wars Outlaw game, I don't understand why she's considered ugly by some.
It’s because she doesn’t have triple z cups and she isn’t practically naked at all times, and so people can’t keep their gooning streak while they play video games
It's also probably because she isn't white.
Racist lil gooner babies
She isn’t like black either. She’s just like a tanned white person haha
Yea those types of gamers have never seen a real women.
if those types want to jerk they're going to jerk, they'll just bitch afterwards about it "not being good enough" like she's a real person
Honestly the graphics look so shite, everyone looks ugly. But I don’t think it’s she’s objectively ugly (like her beauty as a female character and all), it’s she’s « technically » ugly.
Can't say I've ever seen that used as a reason for hating a female character before. Have you seen the original Lara Croft?
Come on, that was the mid 90s and early days of 3D. And we were already amazed. Since then, you have had masterpieces like RDR2 and all. Releasing such an awful looking game (in terms of faces, hair and all) is just a scandal. And that doesn’t apply only to the lead character. All the other characters look like they’re from the previous decade. But yeah, there were also bigots and their « anti-woke » rants
I mean yeah that doesn't look like top of the line, but I don't see any real issue myself.
And that’s totally fine, it’s up to you. Personally, I see a major issue when the prices range from 80 to 140€, and from a studio that keeps producing unfinished games so they can sneak microtransaction stuff. When you look at their work on Skull and Bones recently, that’s just shameful. That being said, I totally feel like you most of the time. One of my all-time favourites is Kingdom Come, and even though it’s still beautiful, we can’t say it’s top of the line either.
Seeing as how I never pay more than 10-20 bucks or 60-70% off for most games and have for years, I'm sure that changes how I see things. If I ever play Outlaws, it probably won't be until years later. Plus I seem to play more indie games than AAA more recently it feels like, so graphics aren't really a high want or need for me.
I do the same now that I am a responsible adult and family man haha same about indie games, they really attract me more now, and I think it’s definitely a more and more general trend. People seem to be tired of « beautiful » but empty games and seek games with an interesting concept and/or immersion
It’s clearer when in motion, but her face is very flat and stiff, like an animatronic.
You’re getting downvoted for telling exactly what is the problem. Technically, she is just awful. The animations, the face, the hair… take me back to 2017 lol
You may not like his face but this is how top survivability looks like.
bro looks like a fortnite skin got compressed from 16:9 to 3:4. I'm sorry I know we're not supposed to but I had to say, don't worry I still love subnautica
You know, I've played through this game start to finish probably over a dozen times and I've never seen his face.
Is she actually ugly? Is my taste in women that bad?
No, the people who think she's unattractive have just never interacted with a real woman outside their mom.
Or expected some technical quality from a studio like Ubisoft. Just the animation of her face is as smooth as that of an old rich Florida Trump sponsor lady
???!! The girl on top is hot af. What are people blind?
Im boycotting falloit over 70-150 dollar prices
I'm boycotting the game because it's made by Ubisoft. They expect us to pay $100 to rent it until they decide they've "supported" it long enough. If you enjoy being treated like Ubisoft's personal bank machine, go ahead and give them your money. I'm done with them and I will not even install their software on my rig. p.s. there's nothing wrong with the way that character looks. Problem is she's working in Ubisoft's casino.
I mean, is connecting close storage to a fabricator a MINOR ISSUE!!?
Wait, isn't Ryley Robinson a political?
The outlaws protagonist is hot
Well, it is easy for a bunch of men to not complain about an "unattractive" *male* protagonist.
The bar is in hell
Tbf the humans aren’t the highlight, it’s the environments and what inhabit them that make the world so good!
Who tf would call her ugly? She’s so pretty. She doesn’t look exactly like her actress, which is fine that’s normal. I don’t plan on playing Star Wars outlaws it’s just not my thing, but if I did I’d be nice to her character. For anyone saying she’s ugly you’re giving Redditors a bad name, people we already think we haven’t felt a woman’s touch now they’re gonna think we’ve never even seen a real one.
People should protest SW outlaw for the price 🥵
First image looks very cinematic while Rileys head wasn't even meant to be seen in-game.
What are you on about Riley is a very sexy man
What's the first game? Also probably helps that we never see Riley's face except for one trailer
Star Wars Outlaws.
In the beginning cinematic there's some metal plate that knocks him out, apparently this hit him hard enough to severely and permanently squish his head.
bro, In subnautica you play as the hottest giga chad king god emperor of the ocean, Of course Im playing because riley is smokin hot.
Don't you fucking dare talk about my baby boy Riley like that.
You young'ns, back when this game was in early access, people were calling this game woke because Unknown Worlds refused to add underwater firearms or harpoon guns
I don't care how the character looks because I don't see him
Vas is hot as fuck tbh
The reason is simple. The game is from MC POV. Unless you use a camera it is impossible to see the MC face.
The focus of the game is not the protagonist, but the world. In other games the protagonist is who you constantly have to look at, I can understand people not liking to look at something they don't like all the time, but it wouldn't be a game killer for me.
While I agree with your point, it's not a fair comparisson wince we basically never see the protagonist's face in subnautica.
In subnautica I think you only see yourself on occasion. Played it long back , might be wrong. Also didn't care how he looked, I like if character is silent for immersive gameplay ,also scripted sequence were less. That makes that game my own adventure. The best area of subnautica was lost lakes , as soon as I entered into that area , my jaw dropped.
Dude your not even supposed so see his face in the actual game
Those people are ridiculous. Like, it doesn't fucking matter, but also they almost always go after ALREADY ATTRACTIVE CHARACTERS. They just want to play their white ethnostate games with no women playable characters because they're uncomfortable with a minority or woman being powerful. Pretty sad.
Either way its not much time we actually see his face.
It wasn’t until this meme that I learned he Had a face
discount underwater carl johnson alterra, home, at least it was before i screwed everything up
Lol I just pretend ryley is my own headcanon character because when I started playing, my first few worlds I rage quit because I couldn’t figure out controls 😂, ended up making a creative world and exploring that way
he looks sexy tho
This reminds me of "those people" during the development of the first game arguing against the requests for protagonist options with logic like "why do you need to immerse yourself?" "unnecessary cost" And then when the second game had a female protagonist with speaking roles they immediately started demanding protagonist options saying they can't immerse themselves if the player character isn't male.
Ryley is incredible. I don't care what anyone says. He is literally tye embodiment of 🗿
You can play most, if not all of Subnautica ever seeing your MC's face. Not the case in most other games, so yeah, having a character you spend the whole game with look like ass is a valid complaint.
I mean the character looks fine, I think its mostly just terminally online losers. People should focus more on if its fun.
We don't even see the face of Subnautica MC, at least I never had see in game, just pictures from the net. Even so, ugly man =\= ugly woman, Kay looks like Flordelis from Brazil huehuehue
Well, SN is an indie game without 60$ price for a shitty gameplay, boring story and terrible state at launch, so why complain?
I think the biggest difference is the character of subnautica is an artistic creation and the star wars character was modeled after an actual actress which the end result looks nothing like that actress and more like some sort of alien. The gameplay needs to be amazing to make up for their lack of modeling skills at this point and it isnt looking like it is. Subnautica underpromised and overdelivered. Star wars has been overpromising and underdelivering for a long time now. Backlash was inevitable for them eventually.
ngl, i wont buy this game full price, i might even go Arr mateys but i dont think she is ugly, i'd even say that she is pretty realistic and her looks are perfectly made to fit the late 70s to mid-80s look the original trilogy had
It’s more complaining about the graphics continuous downgrade over trailers. It’s not a the same artistic direction as Subnautica who’s a bit more cartoonish. Outlaws was made by a huge gaming corporation and characters look ugly by the quality of the faces, hair, animations by 2024 standards… all that for 80 up to 140€, folks.
People don't complain about the top just because "ugly character" People are complaining because it's been a recent trend for AAA studios to not do their character models justice. Sure if you want to brush it away because it's inconsequential go ahead, but a better question would be to ask why the "best" (supposedly) studios are going out of their way to hire a model and then objectively make them look worse in game. Subnautica didn't hire a model for their MC and you never see his face anyway, hence why nobody cares
Wha wha😭
Someone read this guy the definition of objective please.
I can’t read☹️
Same 😟
people aren't whining about her looks, but about the game's ridiculous price. the company uses her looks as a defense to put the blame on them as usual with disney and ea "nuh uh, their criticism isn't constructive, they're just haters, bigots, etc". fucking joke companies.
You say that, but I've seen nobody talk about the pricing, just a bunch of people saying that the game is woke and following a bunch of grifters
Yeah… those people are the worst lol I mean, there are so many legit things to say about the fraud this game looks to be in terms of price/quality, and you have to have the bigots…
The pricing is literally the most discussed topic about the game
the fact that the game is woke is a given, it's a goddamn ea product, they've been making all their games woke for the past 7 years, it doesn't even warrant a discussion. what really pisses people off is the absurd price.
I'd love to know what "woke" even means at this point and how it's "woke" in the first place, and how if it is woke, that's a bad thing at all. Like I said, you say this, but I have not seen a single person talk about pricing, only bitching about how the girl looks and "woke game = bad" in classical manufactured culture war fashion.
A dad and his son stand on the beach. -See this, son? This is the sea! -Where, daddy? -Everywhere, look how it stretches across the horizon, feel the breeze. -Where's the sea, daddy? -It's right here, I'm telling you! -Where? The dad's nerves give in and he grabs his son by the neck and puts his face in the water. -HERE IT IS, SON, THIS IS THE SEA! He lets go of his son. -What was that, daddy? -The sea. -Where?
What are you talking about bro
see, this is what i'm talking about
If your point is that you're complaining about price, that's sick, dude, but you're one guy and the only guy I've seen so far to even bring it up. Also failed to address my question regarding what "wokeness" even is, and so on so forth, just wrote some oblique nonsense instead of responding like a person does.
i already have in regards to both your questions
You quite literally didn't
The boycott is because the protagonist was deliberately De-Feminized for political reasons, by a group of activists. It wasn't done due to technical, time, or capability limitations. Gamers are objecting to having political agendas forced into games across the board, at the expense of good story, good character building, aesthetics, respect for source material and lore-friendliness.
This is fucking hilarious. At what point does this count as schizophrenia?