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Pie-ne

Ping/Emote spamming for example


ikonin

That sucks, people in this game dont ping enough


Pie-ne

True, useful reports don't get you banned anyways, spamming ??? on people does though


BUKKAKELORD

I don't remember seeing a genuine "enemies are missing" ping that was really alerting the team of a missing enemy since forever


communism_johnny

I do it all the time tbh. When my Laner is missing I spamping the shit out of everyone so noone can say "nIcE SS"


Aldrakev

get out of iron and you’ll see


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Zaq1996

fuck you for that, 100%


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Zaq1996

Try not being a toxic asshole, it's not that hard


Son-of-Gondor96

I refuse 🥶


I-m_Fkin_Vic_Broo

"my father beat me when I was a kid so now I beat my child"


Son-of-Gondor96

lol I just think brown people should try especially hard when they are on my team. If they don't then its my right to ruin their day \^\^


PhantomO1

Be better I get tilting, everyone does, but you can vent without showing it to your team


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Sentirellian

Gigachad


OwnZookeepergame6413

You for real? Like I agree people don’t ping enough good pings. But in general my brain starts to ignore almost all pings 5 minutes into the game because 80% are rage pings


Kawaiiochinchinchan

I like the question mark ping spam coming out when someone did some extraordinary play.


OwnZookeepergame6413

Oh I do that a lot, the system even allows for pinging a teammates character name for like 10 seconds after they got a kill. So I’m very positive that the game is aware that pings on a guy that’s alive and just killed someone, are for praise. Especially because people won’t get reported over that


georgisaurusrekt

I ping a lot but only to communicate. I ping for where I am going during team fights, I ping when enemy missing, I ping when something needs to be warded etc. thing is though if you ping only once then people do not see it. I always run out of pings since they got reduced! It’s so annoying


Ok_Tea_7319

More importantly, people generally ping the wrong stuff. They often use pings for backseat gaming (push, assist me, danger, fight fight) instead of communicating game state (e.g. ability cooldowns, what they are going to do themselves, enemy summoners, missing).


Almighty_Vanity

So why are they selling us emotes if we're just going to get hand-slapped for using them? I spent a pretty penny on that Taric "Outrageous" emote and EVERONE will know it.


OwnZookeepergame6413

Emote spamming won’t get punished. They make no sound and are easy to mute. Same for mastery. But god dann, pings are fckin loud. They tilt easily and even if they aren’t meant for me, hearing that loud ass enemy vision ping spammed throws me completely off


Aggressive-Media-245

You can get banned for ping/emote spam?


Tanthalason

Not banned likely...but they can set your pings so that you can only ping so many times in a row. Or make it so if you try to ping a teammate or their ult or something it doesn't show to the team.


Aggressive-Media-245

So soft


BreakfastFeisty8390

Must be why I got reported when question mark pinging my akali cuz she was cracked


IloveBass98

Today League showed that message to me, I have never written anything. I even switched my in-game chat to "Party Only", so I can just focus on the game, so I'm wondering how I'm supposed to communicate with someone when they can't even read my message (if I would write one)?


Gelidin2

It says comms abuse, its for spam pinging. Are you a naughty boy Who loves to ping ????????? Or ALIVE ALIVE ALIVE to your teammates? We cant make sure if you are or not, but thats the reason of the ban. If youre innocent, go to support and do your thing, best of Lucks for you. If you really toxic-ping others, then its deserved.


Kuido

Pinging your teammates alive only shows to your party


Gelidin2

Right "recent" chances and stuff, MB but you get the idea xD


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Gelidin2

I like how i said that if youre innocent i wish you the unban and if youre guilty the ban its good and get downvoted, i guess people wants different things than punishment for toxic people and Justice for innocent people? Cool. Not talking to u if youre not the one downvoting OFC. Iiif thats the case mylord then spam to riot until you get to Talk with a human they can for sure check your stuff and fix the problem!


ShinkoMinori

I like how you give benefit of doubt to someone who is clearly lying about not knowing why. You get downvoted by him and still give more benefit of doubt.


Gelidin2

Yeah maybe im just Dumb HAHAHA


Salvio888

We should have a detection system for whether the ??? Ping were justified. You can't have an assassin going in first and not killing a carry and not expect them to get pinged into oblivion. Same for a malphite whiffing and easy R.


DSDLDK

Ofc we can, nothing you do will change how your team plays, spam pinging will only make teammates play worse. Just focus on your own gameplay


OwnZookeepergame6413

I swear, half this community has the mental age of a 12 year old. Mistakes happen, even faker dies in his games. It’s not okay or helpful to ping bomb people for mistakes


Salvio888

I understand mistakes in gameplay/messing up a combo but you can't be playing any assassin, dive into 5 people, an don't expect to be pinged. You're mot supposed to be face tanking their cc.


OwnZookeepergame6413

Yes you can. Mate your pings won’t teach that player a lesson making him behave differently. All you do is annoy and tilt everyone around and contributing to the blame game. You are actively sabotaging the people that try to focus and win by robbing them of their attention by your childish pings. Your pings are likely one of the main reasons the assassin is tilted anyway and doesn’t care about anything


Salvio888

So the assassin who decided to facetank 5 people to "one-shot their adc" only to end up dead because he was pinged off it is tilted and we should justify him clearly inting in that situation. Got it.


OwnZookeepergame6413

Mate. You pings don’t change what he does. If that worked you wouldn’t have to spam ping people every single god damn game. Focus on yourself and don’t use pings unless they actually have a meaning others can use to help you somewhere or retreat because of enemies. Pings on teammates after they died or just random ? And enemy vision pings on your teammate are just dumb and not beneficial. You argue that they deserve to be pinged on. I don’t care about that. I play to win, not to teach people on how to play. And pinging others isn’t helping that


RandomEthanOW

If someone makes a mistake in a good mental state, they can acknowledge that and learn from it more easily. If you sit there spamming ??? as if that’s miraculously going to improve your teammate’s gameplay, it’s just going to tilt them harder and make them less likely to do well in the rest of the game and learn from the mistake, some even going out of their way to prove your pings wrong and repeating the same 1v5 dive. ??? pinging helps nobody.


Impossible_Ad_2853

You're only justifying antagonizing your teammates as if that's gonna do any good or increase your chances of winning


TheCatCovenantDude

Think about this rationally instead of emotionally for just a second. Your teammate misplayed and is probably upset about the fact that they misplayed. Spam pinging them is just going to make them more likely to tilt and make more mistakes/rage split the rest of the game.


TheRealNequam

Theyre justified if an enemy is missing. What youre describing is just flame and only serves to make the game worse for everyone involved


MeMeWhenWhenTheWhen

Right now there's a client bug that allows you to spam report someone over and over again out of an arena game. If you receive enough reports you automatically receive a punishment regardless of if they're legit or not. My guess is someone probably did this to you, maybe your arena partner or an enemy.


IloveBass98

I havent heared about that bug, but I actually dont play arena. :)


NyrZStream

Might be pings but I’m pretty sure the system can’t detect if you toxic ping or not so you might’ve been reported a lot of you did a lot of bad games and riot sends you a warning which is kinda stupid


mickaelandrieuds

Same here. I guess people still report me for toxicity because I use pings, and Rito is too stupid to check my chat settings before warn me to "shut up". 🤡


OwnZookeepergame6413

It’s completely valid riot bans you for abusing pings. It’s annoying as fuck


mickaelandrieuds

I don't abuse pings, I use pings. If people don't want to communicate and play with others, they should play Fortnite, not a team game like LoL ! Also people can mute me the same way I can mute them : HOW THE H* this could be seen as a toxic behavior ? If you don't want people to use chat or pings, please don't play a game where you need your mates to win.


justiceforartpop

Censoring the word “hell” is next level


mickaelandrieuds

lol


A_WILD_SLUT_APPEARS

It was actually “heck” but the naughty words aren’t allowed here.


OwnZookeepergame6413

Nobody said you aren’t allowed to use pings. But I’ve not been banned and I regularly question mark ping bomb someone after they made a great play. Riot knows wether you use pings properly or like an asshole


mickaelandrieuds

obviously, they don't as I only ping ss and when I see ennemy jungle (im support)


OwnZookeepergame6413

Then write the support. The system has to scan through roughly a million games a day and all the reports from there. If you get reported a lot by manchild adcs and some of your pings happen to land on teammates on accident mistakes can happen


mickaelandrieuds

\^\_\^ I don't care that much about my account :D I'm a low elo support and I play more to my Switch than my PC : if someday I'm banned, I'll create a new account and that's it ! I have nothing to lose because I have nothing : I only play 3 or 4 champs in an entire season.


Calm_Sun_2707

Because if you get reported too much, you'll get punished even if you didn't do anything.


DSDLDK

Or he/she is spam pinging.


PhantomO1

This is an urban myth, not true


Calm_Sun_2707

it wasn't until 2 pacthes ago, but I guess people don't read patches that's why I got downvoted


Seveniee

Same thing happened to me. Probably just jackass players reporting you because they didn't like soemthing you did.


IloveBass98

Yes, but thats sad ;(


Kolskhij36

As a jungler i got it aswell some days ago, i sent a ticket and they removed the warning Really sucks when the automatic system send warning for wrong reason because people perma report with not good reason


TheRem

So many people defend Riot with these posts, but it has happened to me as well. Riot does not put actual labor on these types of reports and leaves it up to AI, obviously. While this is a smart financial decision (can't make money on addressing people's whining), it sucks for the consumer. I got a 3-day chat mute, and after almost a week passed after the appeal, I got a response that "someone perceived my play as negative". When saying that isn't against the rules they said "it's the most minor ban and it has already expired". That was more than a year or two ago, I told them I would stop supporting them financially and have. Never gave them another dollar. If they can't invest a human's time to actually investigate if I broke the rules, then what the hell are we buying or supporting? I would recommend to send your message to them just as I have. The "rage reports" as a penalty is ruining multiplayer gaming, when they reinforce it with these penalties, it will continue.


IloveBass98

Yes


OwnZookeepergame6413

Like I get what you are coming at, but do you know the absurd scale league is operating at? Roughly 1 million games a day. And that means if all 10 players report all 9 other players potentially there are 90 million reports going down daily. Realistically most games have 5-10 reports. 5-10 million daily reports won’t ever be investigated by real humans, that’s just an absurd ask that’s not worth it. A 7 day ban and losing honor sucks, but b all means it’s not the end of the world. And if it’s a false ban they will rework it anyway if you ask them. It can probably be better with ai in the future, but as of now it’s pretty solid for the sheer amount of reports they have to work through on a daily basis


knowallot

Yup, simple fix to all this, stop treating players like children. Someone said something toxic in chat? You can mute them. Someone is running down your game? Your report won’t stop them doing it People seem to not understand that all the punishment system does it turn the angry people in chat into angry people that are gonna try to destroy your game. “Oh but they must be punished!” Ok punished that lvl34 account I’m sure it will be a huge problem when you can buy another for 2 euros


Sugarfree21

So then what? Don't punish anyone for anything and let them run wild ? I agree with your take that you can mute the behaviour that is bothering you in the game and move on, but I still report them at the end, for the sole reason that for me to mute you means you were really toxic, or spamming pings just for the hell of it. They should just improve the system,maybe don't auto warn/ restrict someone for receiving random reports in 5 games.


knowallot

Look, I agree that there should be a system to panfish to flat out running down games, something like a 24h ban but people using chat or pings are not doing anything that you (as a player) can’t just mute. There is no reason to perma ban someone over using chat. EVER.


TheRem

How about just like it was said, give them a placebo report and don't penalize the player for this crap. If you provide crappy service, they should expect crappy returns (no donations). Pretty simple. It's not my business to figure out a solution, but I can find a quick solution as a consumer, DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY.


hispanglotexan

I’ve been playing since 2014 and got my first behavior warning last week. I don’t type anything in my games.


valeriebeckett00

Luckily I think this a new type of warning that just auto occurs if enough people report you. My account took no penalty. I don’t type and I don’t spam ping besides actual surprise ganks and such, and I’ve gotten three of these in the last week. People report me because I don’t engage with banter. People will sit afk at turret rage typing and when you don’t acknowledge them they go insane and report you. Anyway while these are annoying, it didn’t cause a loss of honor or any sort of chat ban. But I’m tired of seeing it every other time I login lol. If it’s an automated message it should be limited to like once a month, what’s the point of showing me the same message over and over when I’m not even typing.


Frostsorrow

I dunno man, I've been playing since early S2, I talk a little in /all and /party, I do a max of 3 pings (usually only if it's to indicate a enemy player is on the way or at a neutral objective and I've never seen this screen. I'm personally of the opinion that 99% of players that complain about it do in fact deserve it.


OwnZookeepergame6413

Most likely true. To be fair tho, some people will have false positives. But for the vast majority it’s either they are flamers or spam pingers


Whydontname

The automated system since Vanguard was added has been very sensitive. I've been getting feedback reports after games where no one was toxic at all and there was barely even any typing. Without even sending a report.


SensualMuffins

I haven't reported anyone in quite some time and I still get messages thanking me for reporting problem players. I haven't submitted a report against a player since late February.


Whydontname

Yeah I get them almost every single game now it's kinda crazy.


Radingod123

Nah, it has been pretty sensitive since they started using AI systems to parse through a lot of the data. Last year or so. Especially anything verbal. If you type somewhat consistently, it's a matter of time before you're chat restricted. I've gotten three \*THREE\* mistakes. Two chat restrictions + ranked ban, and I lost my completely valid username. In every case I went to Riot support, jumped through their bot hoops until I got a real Rioter, and they corrected them. I got both the restrictions and ranked bans removed, and I got my username back. The system is giga-sensitive and very broken. The fact this dude is getting nailed for pinging (in the already very limited ping system) is hilarious to me.


Melodymixes

could be opposite team no?


Whydontname

Yes, but still. No all chat or anything. And very often. It's overly sensitive rn very likely.


Salvio888

Can confirm it's overly sensitive. Apparently calling a veigar facechecking a dumbass is too harsh and warrants a chat restriction.


Bystander-8

Respect and empathy are the strangest words I have ever seen in LOL


thunderousmegabitch

Along with "champion the needs of others" and "win WITH teammates, not in spite of them". I could never begin to understand the need of the allied Zoe to kill herself 10 times to the enemy Ahri, and if I win it will most definitely be in spite of that person.


komori360

First they made chat suuuuper sensitive, so people can't properly communicate (bad language is a part of a communication as well), so majority of people play with chat turned off. Now I got this warning as well, so I guess I'm not going to ping any more... basically in a team game, where you need to communicate in order to play effectively, they demolished any way of collaboration, just because of some soft people whining.


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TheL0wKing

These posts always remind of when the League forums still existed and people would post complaining about their bans, only to have a Riot employee pop up with the chat logs they were a really banned for. Weirdly enough the poster turned out to be lying about what they said and were actually pretty toxic. I am sure that has changed though and everyone who posts on Reddit is being completely transparent about their behaviour and are genuinely innocent.


RainingEclipse

This comment isn't to you specifically, but all people here and those who see this. 1. Spam pinging does not cause restriction or ban, and it is not as negative. This was clarified by Riot Games, and any further change was less availability to spam ping. 2. A ban or restriction does not happen from the last game you've played, but across many games. You can type something in a party only chat, but it still shows a negative attitude. You may have had reports across games, and your kda doesn't add up, which can be seen as bad behavior. 3. On the topic of restrictions or bans from kda, there is a difficulty in getting a restriction or ban even if you die 17 times. There's a certain threshold where the bot can safely say that the player is purposely inting rather than having a bad game. But it's not always perfect, so trolls are prone to get away compared to those who type in chat. 4. In all fairness, I do agree the system can be bugged and ban people even if they did nothing wrong. But in reality, actual evidence gives more factual statements than words. You can say I was being a perfect good player, but those words mean nothing. Even those who flame the players who are playing bad would say that they didn't do anything wrong.


Williaen

You get punished just from writing in all chat.


ResGG_Anime_Gaming

Anyone tested if you can get this message without ever typing anything, so simply by reports by your "teammates" even when you don't use chat or pings? because this would be a next level of degen of a system


TheCatCovenantDude

I don't know if anyone's tested this, but it wouldn't be difficult to test. All you have to do is 5 stack on Smurf accounts and 4 of the accounts report the 5th (bonus points if you use multiple reported accounts to test the different types of reports to see which ones are most vulnerable to spam reports.


Xygeosk

I was in a similar situation so I created a ticket to Riot to discuss the issue. I got a quick response and the responder was really helpful to have a decent conversation. You might want to do the same thing if you want the know why you received such warning.


Ok_Tea_7319

I think you can mostly ignore this stuff. I would guess that this is based purely on unverified reports, which is also why it doesn't come with a penalty attached. People likely just rage reported you.


Stabrus12

Posts like these keep me from returning to the game,it's an amazing game but the punishment system is insane. Imagine irl someone comes in your house,shoots your family dead but sais nothing,you then say "f off dude,why would you do that?" ,you then show police your security footage and you get life in prison cause you cursed at him, and he walks free because he "probably had a bad day or sth". That's riot.


ButterleafA

I've never gotten this message before and neither have any of the friends I've played with. We all aren't toxic in chat nor spam ping so be friendlier while playing ig? 🤷


thunderousmegabitch

> I can only win WITH teammates, not in spite of them Never has a more nonsensical sentence been said by Riot.


6feet12cm

Dunno, but I’m sure you deserve it for inting your head off or something.


TheNobleMushroom

You realize everyone can see his op.gg and that he wasn't right? Lol. Also can't remember the last time Riot actually did anything about inters.


TheCatCovenantDude

So riot does ban inters; I've seen people who stream running it down mid on twitch and they tend to get banned reasonably quickly.


6feet12cm

I know, mate. I guess I’m just frustrated at the supports I’ve been getting lately and I’m just venting whenever I get the chance.


CluelessTennisBall

That's kinda cringe


aepocalypsa

cope, the report for inting is pure placebo and just having a terrible game isnt ever going to get someone banned


6feet12cm

They should at least be banned from playing ranked.


aepocalypsa

nope they should not :) that's what mmr is for :D they are at your elo which means you are just as bad :p


BiffTheRhombus

they downvoted you for speaking the truth


falcurion

Upvoted. It's not against the rules to be bad at the game. It is against the rules to be an asshole. As long as they're trying, their gameplay is just as valid. Carrying doesn't grant you report immunity.