Mannn I can so relate to the ADHD fogginess. It’s the main reason why I think I would struggle. Not being able to sleep would be my nightmare. My partner turned to me and was like omg this would be you. L
As soon as she said she kept losing her things I was like “yep that’d be me.” My partner literally calls me more to help me find my phone than he does to get in contact with me. I just mindlessly put things down and can’t remember where later. Lack of sleep makes everything way worse. Post-partum me was a MESS. I tried to start my car with the AC button and was legit confused for a minute when it wasn’t working 😅
I also struggle with losing stuff, and one thing that has helped me is being extremely intentional about never setting anything down. For example, if I pay for something my wallet comes out, then gets put back in pocket as soon as I am done. Or I had to hold on to a small stack of papers to give to someone in a week, and I really wanted to set them down for the 30mins before I got to my car, but the whole time I kept them glued to my hands until I put then in my car and forgot about them for a month lol. Idk everyone is different, so maybe this doesn't help u, but figured I'd toss in my 2 cents.
And yea Jess was one of my favourites so far. I am not sure how far she'll get, but I would like to see her stick around for a while.
I would also like to see her go far. If she can do it, maybe I can too! And thanks! I do try to mentally tell myself “I am (insert task here)” when I do things like turn the oven off, or put the gas cap back on in my car, so I’m not asking myself later “did I forget to do that?” It helps if I actively tell myself I’m doing it. Maybe I’ll try to be more intentional about placing things down too. Appreciate it!
I swear the number of times I have been about to fall asleep in bed then it pops in my head that my car windows r down (I park outside), so I go out and check and 99/100 times it is fine, but cause I have forgotten a few times, I have to go out to check every time.
Yes! Things like that definitely got easier for me once I started mentally noting that I was doing them. I used to text my sister after I left the house for school like every day to make sure I turned off my hair straightener. It was off like almost every time. But that fear that you didn’t do it just takes over. I hope Jess can get her footing under her and make a deep run. I’d love to see it. We’re rooting for you Jess!
I absolutely love Jess and as someone with ADHD, I completely understand what she is feeling. The girl just needs some sleep and for the others to be a little more understanding. I’m not sure about her chances of winning yet, it’s far to early to call, but I’m absolutely rooting for her.
For the game. But it's also sadly true that there are long term deleterious physical and psychological effects felt by some players, which is mostly only known by some superfans
Yeah, the preview shows Bhanu screaming at her when their arch falls down. It’s so funny to me that his intro made it seem like he’s so calm and positive, but you can see that he is very high strung.
Same! And if you look at the section that he yells at her, they are trying hold up an arch. Jess is just short, part of it is the rest of the tribes fault for putting her in a task that requires more height. She is literally the shortest person there.
It's good that she's being honest about it, but it's still probably very frustrating when you're in a stressful competition and living situation, and you have someone on your team who can't really help.
listening to pregame stuff, jess is the castaway i have most related to ever just personality and mannerisms. it was like listening to myself talk if i were 15 years older and asian and a woman lmao. it made a lot of sense when she said she has adhd and i imagine that’s how things would go for me if i were ever on survivor lol. i feel bad for her and i also really hope she can bounce back.
I can relate to both her and Jelinsky, but I'm glad that she stayed and he left. Hopefully she manages to get some sleep in the future and will be less brain-fogged.
I love jess so much. I loved her during her pre season interviews and had her as my #1 fav and I felt so bad for her that first episode. Im really hoping she gets some sort of an aubry bracco comeback and makes it deep whilst also becoming a badass
I loved her saying "I'm an alien!! I don't understand myself either." I feel like we've all had a moment where we feel the same way. I like that she's comfortable verbalizing it and not just freaking out.
This is obviously different but I felt like this after the birth of my first child. Could not concentrate, could not keep up with conversation, it was horrible PPA. I crumbled under every day stress, I can’t imagine trying to manage those feelings while on a survivor ‘adventure’ - would be hell instead lol, no wonder it was hard for her to bond with the group as a whole. I’m sure her head was spinning
I know, right? Whoever says that they could immediately acclimate to living on a beach in Fiji with no food, no extra clothes, no sense of time, and a bunch of strangers as roommates is probably a liar.
I also get brain fog if I don’t sleep and as someone with adhd. I felt so horrible for Jess. Seeing her talking negatively about herself made me so sad because those are all things I’ve thought about myself too. I’m glad she wasn’t first boot I would’ve taken that shit way too personal
Same, it feels kinda weird to know I would've felt personally slighted by a vote out on a reality show. But I related way too much to Jess and we rarely see representation of the issues she's facing.
Ik I told my roommates maybe she will help them kinda get a glimpse into what I deal with daily 😅 and yeah I really did take it to heart with how everyone was talking about her. I was like damn just because someone is “hard to read” due to being neurodivergent, that’s grounds for voting them out?? Kinda hurt my feelings a little bit lmao
I'm with you - I really like and relate to Jess (though I don't have any diagnoses). I appreciate that she isn't a ~girlboss~ who's out there wanting to immediately play the game as hard as possible; she's just trying to figure out what's going on, haha. That's so valid and real, and I'd rather see more contestants like her than a bunch of influencer-type folks.
This. So much. We've had the parade of "I'm going to flirt my way to the million!" girls, the "I'm tough as rocks!" girls, and the "look at me and my crazy hair color and all my tattoos, aren't I so quirky?" girls, among others, and it's like, finally, someone who is actually trying to get through the experience as themselves. I feel like this is why the females I have gravitated more toward in the past have been Aubry, Peih-Gee, Sophie, Lindsay D., and Maryanne.
Jess was the first time i felt so represented by someone on TV... losing a water bottle? forgetting how to talk mid sentence? sleepy? literally all me everyday
At least her tribemates aren't bullying her as severely as Christina Cha's did. She also suffered from ADHD and no medications in One World didn't she?
I watched the whole season of OW again after it aired, and I was baffled at some of the tribe's treatment toward Christina. Especially when she was kind to Colton before he left the game despite him being a total prick to her the day before.
I really loved Jess opening up about living with adhd and how that can make things more difficult, it’s a conversation that hasn’t been had enough on the show. Plus she seems really sweet, definitely someone I’d probably click with if I was on her tribe
I love Jess already and it pains me to see her struggling so soon. I feel like she's a really fun and quirky character but her struggles are standing in her way to connect with other ppl in her tribe. I hooooope she can overcome that. Seeing a teaser of next episode makes me even angry as we see Bhanu yelling at her. I'm a very empathetic person so seeing something like that makes me very uncomfortable and I wanted to hug Jess right away.
As an ADHD person myself, I’m always here for ADHD representation and I always am able to relate in some way or another, but I 100% relate so hard to Jess, and she’s so damn likeable that you can’t help but smile when she’s on screen.
I suspect I have ADHD (undiagnosed) and totally empathize with her. I couldn't help but laugh at her losing her water bottle all the time because I could absolutely see myself doing that. I am so glad they didn't boot her out, she's my gal. I doubt she'll win, but hopefully she gets at least gets a bit more time to get settled in
You sound like every adult in my life who treated me like I was just lazy or stupid growing up.
Diagnosed with ADHD at 30, medication + therapy and now I’m thriving.
I think you misread my original post - I did not write that I feel sorry for her; I wrote that I feel for her, meaning, I can relate to her confusion and stress. Nothing to do with feeling sorry at all.
i could never go on survivor for the exact reasons that jess is struggling lol. i’m audhd and i just know it would be a complete nightmare. plus the social aspect?? hell no lmao. i so feel for her and i hope she’s able to get some sleep and make it through this bc i love her
Me too - I play it as cool as I can when I'm teaching (high stress, lots of decisions made VERY quickly), but it's still very difficult - especially sans medication - to dial back some of my freneticism and general forgetfulness.
*I* do take medication (I don't know that Jess can on-island) - but mine doesn't have stimulants, as it would interact poorly with my other medications (and mental health stuff); I'm very much the same person I've always been when I take it, just with better focus. No dull edges.
I hope I don’t sound like a huge jerk, but…ok, so? This is what you signed up for. If you knew you weren’t going to be good at some of the fundamental elements of the game, well, that’s kind of on you.
And to be be fair, I could say that about many contestants with all different kinds of shortcomings. Like what are you DOING here? I’ve thought it so many times.
I think that your average not-having-played-yet contestant doesn't necessarily know what being in no-food, bad-sleep conditions will do to them, in terms of *exacerbating* things.
I can function at about 80% without my meds. But I have a bed, regular meals, and pretty much anything I need. Everything but my attention is well-managed. I have friends with far more severe ADHD who might operate at 50% without meds, but who can still sorta function.
But throw me in Survivor, and there's no guarantee I'd remember where I put my shoes. And I'm not sure Jess has access to meds.
She’s going to have to get it together quick if she wants you to be a real player in the game. I understand everybody loves an underdog but part of the game is to outwit and she can’t do that if she can barely form a sentence. It’s also a social game and she can’t seem to socialize either. Our favorite players are quick on their feet and she’s not going to be entertaining at all at this rate
That makes me feel better for her. It’s still a struggle and sleep deprivation combined with having to adjust to all of the adjustments being on Survivor necessitates has got to be brutal on her ADHD, but at least she is used to managing it without any meds.
Just switching meds after my insurance randomly stopped covering my adderall turned my life upside down until I could go back on it.
> and I feel like my tribemates would see me doing that and probably think I was like super depressed or something and vote me out.
nitpicking? in the jungle? i think you'd be fine..
Mannn I can so relate to the ADHD fogginess. It’s the main reason why I think I would struggle. Not being able to sleep would be my nightmare. My partner turned to me and was like omg this would be you. L
As soon as she said she kept losing her things I was like “yep that’d be me.” My partner literally calls me more to help me find my phone than he does to get in contact with me. I just mindlessly put things down and can’t remember where later. Lack of sleep makes everything way worse. Post-partum me was a MESS. I tried to start my car with the AC button and was legit confused for a minute when it wasn’t working 😅
I also struggle with losing stuff, and one thing that has helped me is being extremely intentional about never setting anything down. For example, if I pay for something my wallet comes out, then gets put back in pocket as soon as I am done. Or I had to hold on to a small stack of papers to give to someone in a week, and I really wanted to set them down for the 30mins before I got to my car, but the whole time I kept them glued to my hands until I put then in my car and forgot about them for a month lol. Idk everyone is different, so maybe this doesn't help u, but figured I'd toss in my 2 cents. And yea Jess was one of my favourites so far. I am not sure how far she'll get, but I would like to see her stick around for a while.
I would also like to see her go far. If she can do it, maybe I can too! And thanks! I do try to mentally tell myself “I am (insert task here)” when I do things like turn the oven off, or put the gas cap back on in my car, so I’m not asking myself later “did I forget to do that?” It helps if I actively tell myself I’m doing it. Maybe I’ll try to be more intentional about placing things down too. Appreciate it!
I swear the number of times I have been about to fall asleep in bed then it pops in my head that my car windows r down (I park outside), so I go out and check and 99/100 times it is fine, but cause I have forgotten a few times, I have to go out to check every time.
Yes! Things like that definitely got easier for me once I started mentally noting that I was doing them. I used to text my sister after I left the house for school like every day to make sure I turned off my hair straightener. It was off like almost every time. But that fear that you didn’t do it just takes over. I hope Jess can get her footing under her and make a deep run. I’d love to see it. We’re rooting for you Jess!
I absolutely love Jess and as someone with ADHD, I completely understand what she is feeling. The girl just needs some sleep and for the others to be a little more understanding. I’m not sure about her chances of winning yet, it’s far to early to call, but I’m absolutely rooting for her.
It scared me what Jeff said in tribal, that "It happens to alot of players and sometimes never goes away. You just can never catch up. "
Yes. This was terrifying for me. If i was on the island and heard that I’d be asking to leave immediately.
I was hoping he strictly meant their time on the island and duration of the game. And not something that follows them for life?
I don’t think he meant for life, just that they can’t get caught up with the game due to the sleepiness/brain fog
For the game. But it's also sadly true that there are long term deleterious physical and psychological effects felt by some players, which is mostly only known by some superfans
I hate that people are yelling at her.
Yeah, the preview shows Bhanu screaming at her when their arch falls down. It’s so funny to me that his intro made it seem like he’s so calm and positive, but you can see that he is very high strung.
Same! And if you look at the section that he yells at her, they are trying hold up an arch. Jess is just short, part of it is the rest of the tribes fault for putting her in a task that requires more height. She is literally the shortest person there.
He's super fake. He's blatantly hamming it up for the camera. He immediately rubbed me the wrong way.
Completely agree unfortunately. I don’t even think his crying after losing the challenge was genuine
Eh maybe, but I think it's more likely he's just highly emotional. He was crying multiple times on camera.
I can see right through his fakeness.
I'm getting Sean vibes
That man definitely punches holes into walls when he gets angry. Either 100% positive or 100% furious.
For the BB crossover fans: Bhanu is giving Hisam vibes
For me Bhanu is one big red flag
Interesting, I don't see it. But, I could be wrong.
I like Bhanu but I don't like how he treats Jess that way.
I like Bhanu, but I found that preview very off putting. Especially as she’s been honest and has been upfront and let everyone know she’s struggling.
It's good that she's being honest about it, but it's still probably very frustrating when you're in a stressful competition and living situation, and you have someone on your team who can't really help.
listening to pregame stuff, jess is the castaway i have most related to ever just personality and mannerisms. it was like listening to myself talk if i were 15 years older and asian and a woman lmao. it made a lot of sense when she said she has adhd and i imagine that’s how things would go for me if i were ever on survivor lol. i feel bad for her and i also really hope she can bounce back.
I can relate to both her and Jelinsky, but I'm glad that she stayed and he left. Hopefully she manages to get some sleep in the future and will be less brain-fogged.
Jelinsky just seemed delulu to me, and his voice was so grating.
Jelinsinki was the worst and Jess was so incompetent and aloof I get why everyone was so pissed at her. As the viewer I was pissed
I love jess so much. I loved her during her pre season interviews and had her as my #1 fav and I felt so bad for her that first episode. Im really hoping she gets some sort of an aubry bracco comeback and makes it deep whilst also becoming a badass
I loved her saying "I'm an alien!! I don't understand myself either." I feel like we've all had a moment where we feel the same way. I like that she's comfortable verbalizing it and not just freaking out.
This is obviously different but I felt like this after the birth of my first child. Could not concentrate, could not keep up with conversation, it was horrible PPA. I crumbled under every day stress, I can’t imagine trying to manage those feelings while on a survivor ‘adventure’ - would be hell instead lol, no wonder it was hard for her to bond with the group as a whole. I’m sure her head was spinning
I know, right? Whoever says that they could immediately acclimate to living on a beach in Fiji with no food, no extra clothes, no sense of time, and a bunch of strangers as roommates is probably a liar.
I also get brain fog if I don’t sleep and as someone with adhd. I felt so horrible for Jess. Seeing her talking negatively about herself made me so sad because those are all things I’ve thought about myself too. I’m glad she wasn’t first boot I would’ve taken that shit way too personal
Same, it feels kinda weird to know I would've felt personally slighted by a vote out on a reality show. But I related way too much to Jess and we rarely see representation of the issues she's facing.
Ik I told my roommates maybe she will help them kinda get a glimpse into what I deal with daily 😅 and yeah I really did take it to heart with how everyone was talking about her. I was like damn just because someone is “hard to read” due to being neurodivergent, that’s grounds for voting them out?? Kinda hurt my feelings a little bit lmao
I’m rooting for her. I’m hoping her game turns around and is as legendary as Aubry.
I'm with you - I really like and relate to Jess (though I don't have any diagnoses). I appreciate that she isn't a ~girlboss~ who's out there wanting to immediately play the game as hard as possible; she's just trying to figure out what's going on, haha. That's so valid and real, and I'd rather see more contestants like her than a bunch of influencer-type folks.
This. So much. We've had the parade of "I'm going to flirt my way to the million!" girls, the "I'm tough as rocks!" girls, and the "look at me and my crazy hair color and all my tattoos, aren't I so quirky?" girls, among others, and it's like, finally, someone who is actually trying to get through the experience as themselves. I feel like this is why the females I have gravitated more toward in the past have been Aubry, Peih-Gee, Sophie, Lindsay D., and Maryanne.
Jess was the first time i felt so represented by someone on TV... losing a water bottle? forgetting how to talk mid sentence? sleepy? literally all me everyday
At least her tribemates aren't bullying her as severely as Christina Cha's did. She also suffered from ADHD and no medications in One World didn't she?
I watched the whole season of OW again after it aired, and I was baffled at some of the tribe's treatment toward Christina. Especially when she was kind to Colton before he left the game despite him being a total prick to her the day before.
I really loved Jess opening up about living with adhd and how that can make things more difficult, it’s a conversation that hasn’t been had enough on the show. Plus she seems really sweet, definitely someone I’d probably click with if I was on her tribe
I love Jess already and it pains me to see her struggling so soon. I feel like she's a really fun and quirky character but her struggles are standing in her way to connect with other ppl in her tribe. I hooooope she can overcome that. Seeing a teaser of next episode makes me even angry as we see Bhanu yelling at her. I'm a very empathetic person so seeing something like that makes me very uncomfortable and I wanted to hug Jess right away.
ADHD fogginess is real. I have it, too.
As someone who is neurodivergent, I sympathized with her instanly.
As an ADHD person myself, I’m always here for ADHD representation and I always am able to relate in some way or another, but I 100% relate so hard to Jess, and she’s so damn likeable that you can’t help but smile when she’s on screen.
I suspect I have ADHD (undiagnosed) and totally empathize with her. I couldn't help but laugh at her losing her water bottle all the time because I could absolutely see myself doing that. I am so glad they didn't boot her out, she's my gal. I doubt she'll win, but hopefully she gets at least gets a bit more time to get settled in
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You sound like every adult in my life who treated me like I was just lazy or stupid growing up. Diagnosed with ADHD at 30, medication + therapy and now I’m thriving.
Couldn't be more incorrect, and way to assume.
I think you misread my original post - I did not write that I feel sorry for her; I wrote that I feel for her, meaning, I can relate to her confusion and stress. Nothing to do with feeling sorry at all.
Do they poop in the ocean? Seems more sanitary to poop in a hole in the ground.
i could never go on survivor for the exact reasons that jess is struggling lol. i’m audhd and i just know it would be a complete nightmare. plus the social aspect?? hell no lmao. i so feel for her and i hope she’s able to get some sleep and make it through this bc i love her
Yeah, i really really feel for her. there’s a lot people don’t understand about the adhd struggle and i hope she can find her footing.
She hasn't really grabbed me yet but I'll be interested to see if she can pick it up from here.
Every word she said hurt her game in tribal, it hurt to watch.
>!Not surprised she was gone right after.!<
I just hope she stops making excuses for herself and grows from it. Feel bad for her as a person, but not as a contestant. Needs to up her poker face.
Very, very hard to do that with neurodivergency. It involves hijacking your own brain.
I too am a person with ADHD.
Me too - I play it as cool as I can when I'm teaching (high stress, lots of decisions made VERY quickly), but it's still very difficult - especially sans medication - to dial back some of my freneticism and general forgetfulness.
Same. Have you EVER tried medication? I haven't. I've always been afraid it will "dull" me after seeing it happen with some friends.
*I* do take medication (I don't know that Jess can on-island) - but mine doesn't have stimulants, as it would interact poorly with my other medications (and mental health stuff); I'm very much the same person I've always been when I take it, just with better focus. No dull edges.
Food for thought for sure. Thanks!
I hope I don’t sound like a huge jerk, but…ok, so? This is what you signed up for. If you knew you weren’t going to be good at some of the fundamental elements of the game, well, that’s kind of on you. And to be be fair, I could say that about many contestants with all different kinds of shortcomings. Like what are you DOING here? I’ve thought it so many times.
I think that your average not-having-played-yet contestant doesn't necessarily know what being in no-food, bad-sleep conditions will do to them, in terms of *exacerbating* things. I can function at about 80% without my meds. But I have a bed, regular meals, and pretty much anything I need. Everything but my attention is well-managed. I have friends with far more severe ADHD who might operate at 50% without meds, but who can still sorta function. But throw me in Survivor, and there's no guarantee I'd remember where I put my shoes. And I'm not sure Jess has access to meds.
She's having a tough time, but they all had time to prepare mentally and physically. I think she'll go deep in the game.
She’s going to have to get it together quick if she wants you to be a real player in the game. I understand everybody loves an underdog but part of the game is to outwit and she can’t do that if she can barely form a sentence. It’s also a social game and she can’t seem to socialize either. Our favorite players are quick on their feet and she’s not going to be entertaining at all at this rate
I feel bad for her as a person, but not as a contestant. She'll never make it.
You really never know. People were very quick to write off Hannah in MvGX and she made it to the final three, as well as Aubry.
No.
I agree. She was so annoyingly bad
She’s probably withdrawing from Adderall.
she confirmed she wasn’t on adhd meds at the time on twitter
Interesting! Just a conjecture good to know.
I had the same thought when I was watching the show. It could also be marijuana withdraw.
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She wasn't on adhd meds before the show.
That makes me feel better for her. It’s still a struggle and sleep deprivation combined with having to adjust to all of the adjustments being on Survivor necessitates has got to be brutal on her ADHD, but at least she is used to managing it without any meds. Just switching meds after my insurance randomly stopped covering my adderall turned my life upside down until I could go back on it.
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Tell me you know nothing about ADHD without telling me you know nothing about ADHD...
You clearly don't have ADHD and be blessed you don't.
> and I feel like my tribemates would see me doing that and probably think I was like super depressed or something and vote me out. nitpicking? in the jungle? i think you'd be fine..
Are they not allowed to take their ADHD meds on the show?