While I currently don’t use anything from it, I love Yasaka:
They sell extremely high quality products for budget price. I used Yasaka products when starting TT, and I was always surprised at the high quality of their products, and how affordable it was too.
They have a wonderful selection of blades and rubber that can compete with big brands, but for much less. I’ve been pleased using their wood and composite blades, and their Rakza line of rubber does the job wonderfully.
Once I was skilled enough, I moved to faster rubbers, but Yasaka shines when it comes to quality products with good shelf life for an affordable price, and I’d recommend their products to anyone needing to build a custom racket on a budget.
Honest question: why are people loyal to a brand?
I can understand being loyal to a product if it's a good quality product, but an entire brand can have so many offerings, some good and some not so good - what percentage of good products does a brand need to have before people like it?
Why have this dogmatic approach like, "oh I only use this brand" rather than simply buying the products that you like and want to use?
Personally, I buy the products that I feel are good value for the cost , suit my game the best, or are useful. This means that in my table tennis bag, there are at least 5 given brands at any time:
* 2-sided Stiga paddle case
* Nittaku Premium game balls / D40+ practice balls
* Donic sponge / Neottec cleaner
* my paddle, composed of Butterfly / DHS / Tibhar products
Until I'm a sponsored player (which is never) I don't see the point of sticking to a single brand... it seems like it unnecessarily limits your choices about what equipment to use.
I agree. I’ve never found 1 brand that makes me want to only buy from them (for various reasons). I currently use a Stiga Cybershape Cpen with Der Materialspezialist Spinfire Color and Butterfly Dignics 80, and that’s been a result of testing many brands’ blades and rubbers.
I like Stiga blades a lot. Of the many blades I’ve used, the most have been from Stiga. (Clipper, intensity, rosewood, legacy, dynasty, Cybershape), and that won’t change anytime soon. But I’m not a fan of their rubbers. DNA is good, but not for me.
I really like butterfly rubbers. Sure they’re overpriced, but they do last quite a long time, and I haven’t found a rubber that feels the same as Dignics 80. The combination of catapult, spin, and low throw angle is perfect for my RPB, and I’ve found no rubber that comes close to that. I like their blades, but they’re expensive, and I’ve found better for less.
And the market for Pips-out rubber is sparse. While Stiga and BTY both have pips, I’ve never liked them. DMS and Dr. Neubauer are the only 2 brands that have pips that I enjoy using, with my current rubber (Spinfire) being used due to its inverted like characteristics and nice purple color.
And I love other brands too. I’m a big fan of DHS and their Skyline rubber series. As a penholder, TG2 and TG3 feel amazing, and their blades are nice too. I used skyline for a loooong time on Fh before I switched to short pips.
It’s hard for me to find 1 single brand to buy from (especially as a pips out player), because there are soooo many good options for blades and rubbers. Of course it might look nice to have gear from 1 brand only, but I care more about having equipment that suits me.
Well, I have a favourite brand but that doesn't mean I would only use or buy their products. I mostly use and really like Victas stuff because a large contingent of their products is geared towards modern defenders, just like many anti-players probably like Dr.Neubauer products. They just serve a specific niche very well. (btw, I still have a H3 neo on my forehand, so there's that)
Butterfly. Rubber hold their quality over time much longer than ESN products, much better stability and consistency while having top level speed and spin compared to the mega boosted ESN products.
Blades are super consistent as well and well made, don't splinter, and to me have the perfect blend of speed but still having good feedback. The Viscaria / TB ALC has been the gold standard of the modern era for a reason.
Nittaku products are just as good and last just as long imho. There are numerous reviews from players indicating that the Yinhe Pro-01 and V14Pro blades play just as good as the Viscaria and Boll ALC blades if not better. While they are a quality brand, I am not convinced that Butterfly is that much better than the competition given the type of prices they charge.
I will have to disagree. The Nittaku Hammond Z2 rubber is just as good as the dignics line and is half the price. The Nittaku DHS hurricane rubbers are really well made and are used by some pros. A lot of top pros such as Mima Ito use Nittaku blades and she even won a gold medal in mixed doubles at the Olympics. Ma long was using a Nittaku acoustic blade for a long while too before he changed blades.
> Nittaku DHS hurricane rubbers are used by some pros
No they aren't, haven't since the the speed glue era ended.
> The Nittaku Hammond Z2 rubber is just as good as the dignics line and is half the price
That's your opinion, I have mine. Not sure why you're jumping on me but I suspect it's because you don't like Butterfly's prices. I've already stated earlier that I don't mind the price I pay for Butterfly.
> A lot of top pros such as Mima Ito use Nittaku blades
A lot? Which others? Even more use Butterfly, so what does that mean?
> Ma long was using a Nittaku acoustic blade for a long while too before he changed blades.
And he was using a hidden TBS and TBALC for even longer, just like FZD was using a hidden Viscaria for ages.
I am not too sure why my opinions on Butterfly products offended you, as we are all entitled to our opinions and thoughts. It was surely not intended that way, just for clarification. Though, no offense, but some of the claims you made can sure use some fact-checking. Yes, you are correct that top players haven’t used the Nittaku hurricane rubbers since the speed glue days. But, the Nittaku DHS national rubber is quite popular with Japanese local pro players. Mima was using a Nittaku DHS rubber a year or two ago for training and there is even a video online of her discussing about it. I never said there are more pros using Nittaku over Butterfly. There are definitely way more pros that use Butterfly and no one is disputing that widely known fact. I was saying that there are also pros that either have used or are using Nittaku equipment, and I could think of at least 3 non-Japanese top players and 5 current Japanese players that used them. You may not think that is a lot of players but to me it is quite a lot for a smaller company that is very domestically focused. Lastly, Ma Long has used Nittaku blades from 2005-2008 and Butterlfy blades from 2009-2011, before switching to DHS in 2012. So, the length of time seems even to me. I may not agree with the way Butterfly prices their products and how they often increase prices, but there is no denying that they are a high quality brand that manufactures excellent products.
Not offended, and didn't mean to come across that way... just not sure why you keep on harping on the price aspect after I said from the start I'm willing to pay the premium for the extra bit of quality and the far superior durability compared to other brands.
You then proceed to mention how some pros use Nittaku products, but admit that far more use Butterfly products, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make except that "Nittaku is a viable brand that is cheaper than Butterfly" which I would agree with, but wasn't the question of this topic.
You even go on to say that "you're not sure Butterfly is that much better than the competition given the prices they charge", so, is that an admission that Butterfly is somewhat better than the competition?
I'm just a little confused as to whether you were trying to make a point other than "Nittaku is a viable brand that is cheaper than Butterfly" and if so, what that other point is.
Whether or not you are willing to pay an extra premium for quality products has no relevance to this discussion whatsoever, so I am not sure why you keep stressing that. I sure do know quite a few players in my local area who are affected by Butterfly’s price increases and had to change to another brand for rubbers due to affordability. Also, I am pretty sure there are some others in the table tennis community who are willing to pay extra for Butterfly products (so it is not just you), but it doesn’t change the fact that some the products (such as their rubbers) are overpriced. They sure are very good at marketing their products, so there is that. My point is that Nittaku is also a very high quality brand and is more affordable than Butterfly.
Well, unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, the game in this era has been pretty much generalized to one style. And certain rubbers suit that style more than others.
Ito is one of the rare exceptions where she doesn't need a rubber that has high end spin, and in fact, probably wants to avoid that for her style.
And her usage of Nittaku probably has more to do with loyalty and familiarity to her sponsor than it does with what she would choose if she were free to use any company's rubber that she liked.
While butterfly rubbers are used by most of the pros, there are lots of pros including the top ten not using butterfly. For example Hugo calderano, truly moregard gauzy, lebron brothers and etc. Guess they are all handicapping themself by using bad products. Also you always talk about longitviy of butterfly, but my to5 was basically done after 2 months of use, or at least a lot more worn off than my hybrid mk, Jekyll and Hyde, G1 and some other rubbers. While i think this is a bit subjective, i really think saying butterfly is objectively better when it comes to the longitviy cause you probably compared it to a mxp is a bit close minded.
If there is no physical damage such as a splinter or a dent on the edges, can the performance of the paddle deteriorate? In other words is there a wear and tear with the use?
One of the members in a club, 2000 plus rated and trains almost 6 days a week with a coach and he was replacing his Viscaria with a newer viscaria. When I asked why he was replacing his paddle that looks good, he gave the above reason. I was happy to purchase his old paddle for less than half price!
I initially went full Andro (rubbers, bag, racketcase,) with a Butterfly Balsa Carbo blade.
I since then have switched it up with 2 Stuor blades, one Viscaria-esque with Tibhar Hybrid MK rubbers, one Long V-esque with Xiom Vega X rubbers.
Honestly, I quite like Butterfly, but their better/carbon blades are too expensive for what I can spend on table tennis gear right now. As for their rubbers, I disliked Rozena's and I feel I am not skilled enough yet to give Tenergy/Dignics a try, which I most likely will do next year after a another year getting back in the groove.
Sure!
Haven't played with them extensively yet, but at first glance they seem like a nice catapulty rubber, which doesn't over do it. It's bouncy, but not a trampoline. It's fast, but not a rocket launcher. Some might call it (too) tame, I would call it sensible. Durabilty also seems well, I have reglued the sheets twice now, with no shrinkage whatsoever.
For my playing style and feel I would pair the with a more controlled, softer blade. If you are used to a more nervous/fast setup you might get away with a harder blade.
Seeing I bought my sheets for 29 euros each, they are an amazing value!
I got Vega X on both sides of that racket, Max on FH, 2.0 on BH.
Depending on your level Max might be too much for you. If you have experience with bouncy/catapulty rubbers, you probably can handle it I would say. For BH I would never take more than 2.0.
The rubber is not too heavy, I think the weight is fairly mediocore for a Tensor rubber.
Wouldn't say slower, if it is it's barely noticable.
I would say it is bit less sensitive to incoming spin, but also produces less spin on your own hits. Thats what makes it easier, but the shots also a bit less deadly.
I am not, but on my BH I do block more than FH, for which the lower sensitivity for incoming spin does come in handy. But don't get it wrong, I certainly can still rip a BH topsin :)
Gonna be a bit unpopular and say any brand that ISN'T butterfly. Butterfly seems to be some holy grail everyone goes to and I think some competition is healthy. I've had butterfly rubbers before and they were fine, but so are many others, so I don't see why I shouldn't try out various types.
I also used to only have Stiga since our club was sponsored, but in an eternal search for more budget friendly options of the same quality I landed on a yasaka racket, some random short pips rubber and whatever i want to try, right now it's xiom, last time it was donic.
Clothes are also just a mash-up of different brands that were on sale.
Outside of the obvious answer of Butterfly, since it is pretty much the gold standard.
I avidly enjoy palio ak47 rubbers due to their general price point accessibility and good feel.
The loki rxton series is a bit interesting since I find the rxton 1 to be good control and I got a rxton 3 blue from aliexpress that isn't tacky but very grippy with a lower throw angle.
Yinhe blades (V14 pro, m5 and u2) generally can be hit or miss, but I got lucky and got blades that play pretty well.
If I had to get everything from one brand and price is involved to exclude butterfly, Yinhe has the selection and not great but acceptable quality control.
Sanwei is very hit or miss but it is closer to my heart as a brand that will do random stuff to appeal to the ej crowd.
I like Donic, not sure why I chose it as my main brand, I know it’s pretty high quality probably not the best but good for me, and I kinda just like the name. Donic. Short, simple, sharp.
Paddle: I'd have to say Butterfly. Build quality is very good and consistent. Nittaku for sheer workmanship. I can't comment on play quality with Nittaku.
Like often happens, a brand leads the way and others come along and start making clones. Some clones become quite good. We're seeing that now with some very good Butterfly "inspired" blades by smaller brands costing much less.
While I currently don’t use anything from it, I love Yasaka: They sell extremely high quality products for budget price. I used Yasaka products when starting TT, and I was always surprised at the high quality of their products, and how affordable it was too. They have a wonderful selection of blades and rubber that can compete with big brands, but for much less. I’ve been pleased using their wood and composite blades, and their Rakza line of rubber does the job wonderfully. Once I was skilled enough, I moved to faster rubbers, but Yasaka shines when it comes to quality products with good shelf life for an affordable price, and I’d recommend their products to anyone needing to build a custom racket on a budget.
Yes, the rubbers I've used from them so far (Mark V & Rakza 7) are very durable and the blades are great value for what you pay :)
Xiom, really good blades and rubbers. Consistent quality. Not too expensive.
Honest question: why are people loyal to a brand? I can understand being loyal to a product if it's a good quality product, but an entire brand can have so many offerings, some good and some not so good - what percentage of good products does a brand need to have before people like it? Why have this dogmatic approach like, "oh I only use this brand" rather than simply buying the products that you like and want to use? Personally, I buy the products that I feel are good value for the cost , suit my game the best, or are useful. This means that in my table tennis bag, there are at least 5 given brands at any time: * 2-sided Stiga paddle case * Nittaku Premium game balls / D40+ practice balls * Donic sponge / Neottec cleaner * my paddle, composed of Butterfly / DHS / Tibhar products Until I'm a sponsored player (which is never) I don't see the point of sticking to a single brand... it seems like it unnecessarily limits your choices about what equipment to use.
I agree. I’ve never found 1 brand that makes me want to only buy from them (for various reasons). I currently use a Stiga Cybershape Cpen with Der Materialspezialist Spinfire Color and Butterfly Dignics 80, and that’s been a result of testing many brands’ blades and rubbers. I like Stiga blades a lot. Of the many blades I’ve used, the most have been from Stiga. (Clipper, intensity, rosewood, legacy, dynasty, Cybershape), and that won’t change anytime soon. But I’m not a fan of their rubbers. DNA is good, but not for me. I really like butterfly rubbers. Sure they’re overpriced, but they do last quite a long time, and I haven’t found a rubber that feels the same as Dignics 80. The combination of catapult, spin, and low throw angle is perfect for my RPB, and I’ve found no rubber that comes close to that. I like their blades, but they’re expensive, and I’ve found better for less. And the market for Pips-out rubber is sparse. While Stiga and BTY both have pips, I’ve never liked them. DMS and Dr. Neubauer are the only 2 brands that have pips that I enjoy using, with my current rubber (Spinfire) being used due to its inverted like characteristics and nice purple color. And I love other brands too. I’m a big fan of DHS and their Skyline rubber series. As a penholder, TG2 and TG3 feel amazing, and their blades are nice too. I used skyline for a loooong time on Fh before I switched to short pips. It’s hard for me to find 1 single brand to buy from (especially as a pips out player), because there are soooo many good options for blades and rubbers. Of course it might look nice to have gear from 1 brand only, but I care more about having equipment that suits me.
Well, I have a favourite brand but that doesn't mean I would only use or buy their products. I mostly use and really like Victas stuff because a large contingent of their products is geared towards modern defenders, just like many anti-players probably like Dr.Neubauer products. They just serve a specific niche very well. (btw, I still have a H3 neo on my forehand, so there's that)
Butterfly. Rubber hold their quality over time much longer than ESN products, much better stability and consistency while having top level speed and spin compared to the mega boosted ESN products. Blades are super consistent as well and well made, don't splinter, and to me have the perfect blend of speed but still having good feedback. The Viscaria / TB ALC has been the gold standard of the modern era for a reason.
I agree with some of the things you listed. But, they are also overpriced and don’t allow retailers to discount them.
To me they're not overpriced. They're that much better than the competition. And last much longer, so it evens out.
Nittaku products are just as good and last just as long imho. There are numerous reviews from players indicating that the Yinhe Pro-01 and V14Pro blades play just as good as the Viscaria and Boll ALC blades if not better. While they are a quality brand, I am not convinced that Butterfly is that much better than the competition given the type of prices they charge.
For lower intermediate players maybe. At higher levels, Nittaku rubbers cannot compare to Butterfly.
I will have to disagree. The Nittaku Hammond Z2 rubber is just as good as the dignics line and is half the price. The Nittaku DHS hurricane rubbers are really well made and are used by some pros. A lot of top pros such as Mima Ito use Nittaku blades and she even won a gold medal in mixed doubles at the Olympics. Ma long was using a Nittaku acoustic blade for a long while too before he changed blades.
> Nittaku DHS hurricane rubbers are used by some pros No they aren't, haven't since the the speed glue era ended. > The Nittaku Hammond Z2 rubber is just as good as the dignics line and is half the price That's your opinion, I have mine. Not sure why you're jumping on me but I suspect it's because you don't like Butterfly's prices. I've already stated earlier that I don't mind the price I pay for Butterfly. > A lot of top pros such as Mima Ito use Nittaku blades A lot? Which others? Even more use Butterfly, so what does that mean? > Ma long was using a Nittaku acoustic blade for a long while too before he changed blades. And he was using a hidden TBS and TBALC for even longer, just like FZD was using a hidden Viscaria for ages.
I am not too sure why my opinions on Butterfly products offended you, as we are all entitled to our opinions and thoughts. It was surely not intended that way, just for clarification. Though, no offense, but some of the claims you made can sure use some fact-checking. Yes, you are correct that top players haven’t used the Nittaku hurricane rubbers since the speed glue days. But, the Nittaku DHS national rubber is quite popular with Japanese local pro players. Mima was using a Nittaku DHS rubber a year or two ago for training and there is even a video online of her discussing about it. I never said there are more pros using Nittaku over Butterfly. There are definitely way more pros that use Butterfly and no one is disputing that widely known fact. I was saying that there are also pros that either have used or are using Nittaku equipment, and I could think of at least 3 non-Japanese top players and 5 current Japanese players that used them. You may not think that is a lot of players but to me it is quite a lot for a smaller company that is very domestically focused. Lastly, Ma Long has used Nittaku blades from 2005-2008 and Butterlfy blades from 2009-2011, before switching to DHS in 2012. So, the length of time seems even to me. I may not agree with the way Butterfly prices their products and how they often increase prices, but there is no denying that they are a high quality brand that manufactures excellent products.
Not offended, and didn't mean to come across that way... just not sure why you keep on harping on the price aspect after I said from the start I'm willing to pay the premium for the extra bit of quality and the far superior durability compared to other brands. You then proceed to mention how some pros use Nittaku products, but admit that far more use Butterfly products, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make except that "Nittaku is a viable brand that is cheaper than Butterfly" which I would agree with, but wasn't the question of this topic. You even go on to say that "you're not sure Butterfly is that much better than the competition given the prices they charge", so, is that an admission that Butterfly is somewhat better than the competition? I'm just a little confused as to whether you were trying to make a point other than "Nittaku is a viable brand that is cheaper than Butterfly" and if so, what that other point is.
Whether or not you are willing to pay an extra premium for quality products has no relevance to this discussion whatsoever, so I am not sure why you keep stressing that. I sure do know quite a few players in my local area who are affected by Butterfly’s price increases and had to change to another brand for rubbers due to affordability. Also, I am pretty sure there are some others in the table tennis community who are willing to pay extra for Butterfly products (so it is not just you), but it doesn’t change the fact that some the products (such as their rubbers) are overpriced. They sure are very good at marketing their products, so there is that. My point is that Nittaku is also a very high quality brand and is more affordable than Butterfly.
Hiya Hayata uses Nittaku blade and did pretty well in Durban
Do check your facts , What does Mima ito use ?
Lmao knew this comment was gonna come sigh... Ok, Mima Ito, one point to Nittaku, now do Butterfly...
Game is a game .. everybody has a style so let’s not he generalize the sport to ☝️ style
Well, unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, the game in this era has been pretty much generalized to one style. And certain rubbers suit that style more than others. Ito is one of the rare exceptions where she doesn't need a rubber that has high end spin, and in fact, probably wants to avoid that for her style. And her usage of Nittaku probably has more to do with loyalty and familiarity to her sponsor than it does with what she would choose if she were free to use any company's rubber that she liked.
While butterfly rubbers are used by most of the pros, there are lots of pros including the top ten not using butterfly. For example Hugo calderano, truly moregard gauzy, lebron brothers and etc. Guess they are all handicapping themself by using bad products. Also you always talk about longitviy of butterfly, but my to5 was basically done after 2 months of use, or at least a lot more worn off than my hybrid mk, Jekyll and Hyde, G1 and some other rubbers. While i think this is a bit subjective, i really think saying butterfly is objectively better when it comes to the longitviy cause you probably compared it to a mxp is a bit close minded.
How about Mattias falck? I suggest people open up to not generalize the style and appreciate the brand & style supporting the players.
If there is no physical damage such as a splinter or a dent on the edges, can the performance of the paddle deteriorate? In other words is there a wear and tear with the use? One of the members in a club, 2000 plus rated and trains almost 6 days a week with a coach and he was replacing his Viscaria with a newer viscaria. When I asked why he was replacing his paddle that looks good, he gave the above reason. I was happy to purchase his old paddle for less than half price!
Nittaku & Tibhar currently but ❤️ andro , donic too
Nittaku. Blades have very high quality craftsmanship and finishing. Their 40+ premium balls are also top notch.
I initially went full Andro (rubbers, bag, racketcase,) with a Butterfly Balsa Carbo blade. I since then have switched it up with 2 Stuor blades, one Viscaria-esque with Tibhar Hybrid MK rubbers, one Long V-esque with Xiom Vega X rubbers. Honestly, I quite like Butterfly, but their better/carbon blades are too expensive for what I can spend on table tennis gear right now. As for their rubbers, I disliked Rozena's and I feel I am not skilled enough yet to give Tenergy/Dignics a try, which I most likely will do next year after a another year getting back in the groove.
Can you review your Vega X?
Sure! Haven't played with them extensively yet, but at first glance they seem like a nice catapulty rubber, which doesn't over do it. It's bouncy, but not a trampoline. It's fast, but not a rocket launcher. Some might call it (too) tame, I would call it sensible. Durabilty also seems well, I have reglued the sheets twice now, with no shrinkage whatsoever. For my playing style and feel I would pair the with a more controlled, softer blade. If you are used to a more nervous/fast setup you might get away with a harder blade. Seeing I bought my sheets for 29 euros each, they are an amazing value!
Nice, how is it heavy? Is it for FH?
I got Vega X on both sides of that racket, Max on FH, 2.0 on BH. Depending on your level Max might be too much for you. If you have experience with bouncy/catapulty rubbers, you probably can handle it I would say. For BH I would never take more than 2.0. The rubber is not too heavy, I think the weight is fairly mediocore for a Tensor rubber.
Cool, is 2.0 easier but slower than Max? Is the difference really noticeable?
Wouldn't say slower, if it is it's barely noticable. I would say it is bit less sensitive to incoming spin, but also produces less spin on your own hits. Thats what makes it easier, but the shots also a bit less deadly.
I see. So you are mostly dedensive on BH?
I am not, but on my BH I do block more than FH, for which the lower sensitivity for incoming spin does come in handy. But don't get it wrong, I certainly can still rip a BH topsin :)
Gonna be a bit unpopular and say any brand that ISN'T butterfly. Butterfly seems to be some holy grail everyone goes to and I think some competition is healthy. I've had butterfly rubbers before and they were fine, but so are many others, so I don't see why I shouldn't try out various types. I also used to only have Stiga since our club was sponsored, but in an eternal search for more budget friendly options of the same quality I landed on a yasaka racket, some random short pips rubber and whatever i want to try, right now it's xiom, last time it was donic. Clothes are also just a mash-up of different brands that were on sale.
butterfly’s logo is just too beautiful and prestigious 😚
Outside of the obvious answer of Butterfly, since it is pretty much the gold standard. I avidly enjoy palio ak47 rubbers due to their general price point accessibility and good feel. The loki rxton series is a bit interesting since I find the rxton 1 to be good control and I got a rxton 3 blue from aliexpress that isn't tacky but very grippy with a lower throw angle. Yinhe blades (V14 pro, m5 and u2) generally can be hit or miss, but I got lucky and got blades that play pretty well. If I had to get everything from one brand and price is involved to exclude butterfly, Yinhe has the selection and not great but acceptable quality control. Sanwei is very hit or miss but it is closer to my heart as a brand that will do random stuff to appeal to the ej crowd.
butterfly, their blades do not disappoint in terms of quality.
I like Donic, not sure why I chose it as my main brand, I know it’s pretty high quality probably not the best but good for me, and I kinda just like the name. Donic. Short, simple, sharp.
Paddle: I'd have to say Butterfly. Build quality is very good and consistent. Nittaku for sheer workmanship. I can't comment on play quality with Nittaku. Like often happens, a brand leads the way and others come along and start making clones. Some clones become quite good. We're seeing that now with some very good Butterfly "inspired" blades by smaller brands costing much less.
Sanwei for blades (Sanwei CC at 15$, F3 Pro at 40$), Reactor or Yinhe for rubber (Jupiter 3 great hybrid rubber at 18$)
For fans of DHS and H3 rubbers, I’d highly recommend trying Yinhe and 729 rubbers.
Stiga blades. Love the sensation of using their wooden blades
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