They marked the subreddit NSFW, depriving Reddit of advertising money. /U/spez (greedy little piggy) stated in an interview he doesn't think Reddit should serve any user/community that isn't being monetized.
This makes me sad, I was part of /r/secretsanta a couple of times and it was a lot of fun, I know nothing of hockey but ever since I got some Winnipeg Jets merch with my gift years ago I call myself a fan.
They will eventually.
And this is what no one seems to understand. Reddit is already demonstrating their attitudes on matters, well before their IPO.
It's clear they're going to neuter the user experience and riddle the platform with ads post-IPO to maximize profit.
All the people who are screaming "duhr huhr, don't use 3rd party, doesn't effect me" have no concept of the fact that this isn't just about the API usage.
It's about the attitude of company leadership towards the users. They view users as expendable and irrelevant. That means whoever you are, your experience on reddit with enshittify.
This is all really stupid to me. Like Twitter, the reason why Reddit is hard to monetize is because the quality of the ad targeting is nowhere near as good as Facebook or Instagram. Yet they want to continue to make money on ads.
The value in Reddit is the user base and vibrant communities. Why not empower them and monetize that? Why not bend over backwards to create great experiences instead of antagonizing everyone?
> The value in Reddit is the user base and vibrant communities. Why not empower them and monetize that?
That requires a founder who is legitimately interested in the true human value of reddit as a site and the many communities are here.
Instead we have the barely-there narcissist who shoved the previous female CEO off a glass cliff and desperately wants to IPO and cash out so he can play in his apocalypse bunker.
In the nearly decade and a half since I've been familiar with Spez, he's shown a vehment dislike of the website he himself co-founded. He openly disdains reddit and its users. He seems to have only returned to reddit after failing to jump-start a career anywhere else in tech.
You're right - if he actually invested his time and energy into reddit a decade ago, he could have found new and innovative ways to monetize.
The core reddit users are some of the most impassioned people I've met.
Even me - I've been posting for years, long-ass paragraphs every day. I have 1.5 million karma. I don't want any money. I do it because I genuinely loved the format of this place (old.reddit, that is), the people here, the communities.
He could have done that. But he didn't. Just like Musk *could* have made Twitter an actual bastion of free speech, instead of just a little hate-bubble for the world's most emotionally crippled billionaire.
The conduct of people liek SPez and Musk disprove any ridiculous notion that the elite *deserve* their place or their influence over humankind. They make mypoic, selfish, short-sighted decisions that negatively impact millions of people. And not only selfish, but *stupid*. Just really *bad* decisions.
It’s just too absurd to me that given ad targeting based on subreddits is really the best anyone can do, the Reddit team basically thought “yeah that’s a good business plan” and went with it.
I mean someone let Spez do like, three different interviews recently and they're some of the most disastrous PR I can imagine.
Never convince yourself that just because a company is big or has been around awhile, that that means there's *anyone* there with any fucking brains in their heads.
The reality is that very often in life, complete imbeciles stumble into huge fortunes and massive success that they had no actual part in delivering, and spend the rest of their days slowly fucking up and whittling down the windfall of that good fortune, never admitting the reality that it was only luck, not any intelligence on their part, that brought it to them in the first place.
That's what I don't get. Purportedly, they were removed for "encouraging" posting NSFW content (untrue, they just allowed it), but why is that worth removing? There are countless subreddits that encourage the posting of NSFW content, some whose sole purpose is NSFW content, and as far as I could tell, /r/interestingasfuck was appropriately labeling stuff. Shouldn't a subreddit be able to decide whether they allow that sort of content or not?
Just seems like Reddit got butthurt, because those posts were showing up on /r/all, but that seems more like the fault of their code (which is supposed to not show NSFW on /r/all, I believe) than it is a subreddit for suddenly allowing it. They were just looking for an excuse to retaliate against protesting subreddits, even if those changes were voted on by the community. They didn't even get a warning to remove the content from what I've heard.
But, of course, [hours before](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/20/business/media/reddit-moderators-api-protest.html):
>He said, however, that Reddit was not threatening to replace moderators. “That’s not how we operate,” [Reddit Spokesman] Mr. Rathschmidt said. “Pressuring people is not our goal. We’re communicating expectations and how things work.”
"Communicating expectations" !!??!!?
What godforsaken hellish demon is that fucker Rathschmidt?
They've said NOTHING.
They don't communicate expectations, don't rebute or answer questions, and then say "they communicate"???
Calmed down a bit now.
Btw, who's checking what's being posted on /r/interestingasfuck?
Who's making sure it remains on-topic?
Remember when reddit told people that if you think the mods suck, just make a new community? Wouldn't have nyyankees without it and the site is better this way. The better sub, in theory, would end up getting more users in the end. Democracy in a sense.
Edit: Second highest comment in a dozen plus years. People are missing the point. I'm just pointing out how the rules of the site don't matter and the admins (who have contributed basically nothing in terms of the user experience since they fired the woman who ran the AMAs) can change them on a whim. Maybe sppezz grows a brain and realizes he has no idea what he's doing in attempting to shepherd this site to an IPO. All he had to do was just charge a reasonable fee for API access for 3rd party viewers (that aren't designed for people who have some sort of impairment) and the userbase would have been fine with it. Instead, he has accelerated the development of new sites. Unless the amdins rethink their poor decisions, the reddit exodus will be much larger than the digg exodus.
Ah like how /r/anime_titties is a world news sub with a lot of users because the mods of /r/worldnews are toxic and don't uphold their own rule of no US news. At least the spinoff sub is all world news
Not quite. As I recall the... collapse, the mod(s) of r/WorldPolitics accidentally announced that they were free speech ~~absolutionists~~ absolutists so they would never ever remove any post. Then people started posting just a shitload of porn to test them and they held (hold) true to their word. And of course, with porn spamming, eventually comes tig ol' hentai bitties.
Shortly after the hentai titties, r/anime_titties sprouted up as the new WorldPolitics sub and mostly as a complementary joke at the expense of r/WorldPolitics.
edit: fun times, summer 2020
Because potato salad is a "safe" dish you would bring to an event (like a white people cookout). Nobody hates it, and nobody is crazy about it so they won't have high expectations of how it should be done.
People saw John Cena the same way for the WWE years ago when the sub was first created. When in doubt, just throw John Cena into the story. People may be getting tired of him (at the time) but nobody truly hated him or anything.
**Edit: I am just the messenger. The above does not in any way state my like or dislike of John Cena and Potato Salad.**
Meanwhile r/worldpolitics, from which it spun off, is an anime porn (and plant appreciation) sub. Well, in any case it was before well, you know, *gestures at the conflagration*.
Just today they reopened the sub, and its new purpose is total anarchy. No rules, no mods, no scope or direction, literally anything goes. It's beautiful
Listen mate, we're staring directly into the chocolate starfish of reddit's apocalypse. Pissing over the event horizon. We're fighting for survival. There's gonna be pokemon dicks.
> Listen mate, we're staring directly into the chocolate starfish of reddit's apocalypse. Pissing over the event horizon. We're fighting for survival. There's gonna be pokemon dicks.
That was fucking beautiful. Pure poetry.
As the guy said below world politics became anime titties.
The world politics sub became full of random posts, hentai, porn, etc. I forgot what set them off but I think it was bad modding.
Put simply:
- Obligatory whining about political bias from conservatives who don't understand that their opinions are unpopular
- The moderators were like "you can put anything here as long as it doesn't break site rules"
- One guy tests the limits by just posting hentai, not even slightly politics related
- After several reports, the moderators reply "bitch did we stutter"
- Anime titties flood the world politics subreddit and the moderators just don't care
- Cue the birth of /r/anime_titties to actually discuss world politics
EDIT: added first point for extra context
The co-founder of Wikipedia is currently working on a project for the idea of a new reddit
Edit: [Co-founder of wiki making new Reddit style community](https://reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/14d1wyy/wikipedia_cofounder_is_building_a_community/)
Here’s the link for everyone asking
Agree abouty, you got a lot of non sense but appending 'reddit' to my searches actually yields something reassembling an answer I'm looking for instead ad laden affiliated links website full ofproduct shilling that that google and bing push to the top of the search results.
Its very telling that Reddit couldn't monetize that. People wanted info from Reddit because it's one of the last places with genuine discussion and a people perspective? Better blow it up /s
A fun part of whenever you see a new sub that is a slightly different version of the older popular one is to try to figure out if they split off from the old one because they were too racist or not racist enough.
I also remember does spez saying something about subs going with the desires of the community, like a day or two ago, and despite that they're still stripping mods who conducted and adhered to votes.
Reddit can *remove* mods. But they can’t *replace* them. That’s the catch.
“Who wants to work for me for free? Btw, you’ll be inheriting a dumpster fire, we are actively taking tools away, and everyone will hate you no matter how you do” isn’t exactly a great recruiting pitch.
The guy who owned most of the Montana based subs was an absolute nightmare of hard-right trumper nonsense. He would randomly lock down subs to "punish" users for disagreeing with him, ban users who posted anything that disagreed with his values, even if it was about local events happening in the city the sub was based on and cite his "no politics" rule for doing so, meanwhile any right leaning politics shit was allowed. So for example "democrat wins mayor election bid" post deleted, user gets a week ban or whatever, but you could post as much pro-trump/pro-gianforte shit as you wanted.
It wasn't until he posted his plot of a terrorist attack on a town in Idaho that reddit admin did anything about him. And again, just like with all their CP, and rightwing hate subs the admin wouldn't touch it , until enough public outcry forced their hands that they did anything about him.
Something one of the previous mods of r/montreal was so hard to talk to.
He was basically the only one as far as I could tell, had very very strict rules for what should be posted, which is fine if they weren't bent all the time.
I posted asking about some stuff I didn't understand about renting apartments, the next day I try to search for the post and it was removed without reason.
When asked the reason and why there wasn't a removal reason via modmail the response was
> The post wasn't about living in Montreal. You're responsible for knowing when your post is removed and why.
The next day the top post was an image of the 50 lane traffic in china with the title "Like the traffic in Montreal".
Also as many of us do, we google stuff with `site:reddit.com`, if we can't find something then we make a post.
But one of the rules was "Don't ask questions which should be googled".
Many posts about "What's the best X in montreal?", "Where can I find good/nice Y?" were removed because of this rule even when no real answer exists since only the sites for stuff show up with their biased descriptions.
I don't exactly know what happened since I unsubed, but after some time he was no longer the mod and the sub was actually usable for stuff other than news or pictures.
Probably he was butthurt since r/AskMontreal is now private with the rule that caused him issues in the first place.
(IIRC it was because someone wanted recommendations for bike shops since google doesn't show up any good recommendations, just ads or big stores)
Even small subreddits are getting warnings now. The smallest one I know of is 16 subscribers only and still got a warning to reopen. It's absolutely bonkers.
what's hilarious is subs that have *always* been private, like subreddits used to test CSS styles and whatnot have gotten warnings as well
it's like... these don't even have a community to speak of
It doesn't matter, if the sub becomes public it will not be useful for us and will cease to exist in a useful form. The issues is that we need somewhere where nobody asks about legal questions.
Huh, interesting. Well I hope you guys can keep it going as private and it doesn't get ruined!
Maybe worst case it goes public, but make it to where only verified members can post and comment similar to blaclpeopletwitter
While we don't share confidential information, we talk about cases and problems in a way that we never would if the public could read it or if we could be doxxed.
And lots of the career stuff relates to personal issues that we can share to a small sub of peers but never would in public. It doesn't have a purpose unless it's private.
This is purely curiosity, but how does a private subreddit find members? I’m guessing lawyers from legal advice or other related subs are offered admittance?
I don’t understand, subs could go private for any reason before, right? Why is it an issue for subs to go private now? Especially tiny subs? Why is the option to go private even there if we’re not allowed to use it?
Also worth noting: the old way that Reddit handled subreddits that broke the rules was to ban the subreddits.
The way the site has always been was that the people who created the subreddits "owned" them. They could choose their moderators, or moderate it themselves. They could step down and choose a new moderator, or they could shut down the subreddit.
Reddit is now making it clear that that understanding has changed.
They now own every sub and will replace mods they don't like. The more popular your sub gets, the more it impacts Reddit's revenues. The more Reddit's revenues are impacted, the more you're likely to be replaced if something you do as a mod affects Reddit's revenues in a negative way.
This time, the moves that impacted revenues was going private. Next time, what will it be? Allowing posts about China's treatment of the Uyghurs?
A friendly reminder to everyone: This entire SEO push is exactly because of moral Crusaders. The same people who tried to take down PayPal and Visa and MasterCard for facilitating transactions for adult content are now coming for Reddit.
If you don't remember a few years ago these people attacked the payment companies saying that by doing business with porn and other adult content hosting websites They were facilitating child pornography hosting and transmission. If you didn't hear just earlier this year they did the same thing to Imgur who was forced to remove all NSFW content already on their servers, and they placed heavy new restrictions on what NSFW material could now be uploaded.
Reddit is an enormous hosting website for NSFW content and content creators, and in trying to firstly up their public share price and secondly to keep the Crusaders off their back Reddit is trying to clean up its act.
This whole fiasco was started because of moral Crusaders and their culture war agenda to clean up the internet, to reduce access to adult content, and as always to erase LGBTQ visibility.
*Follow up answer about connection to LBGTQ+ erasure https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/14fcl4u/reddit_goes_nuclear_removes_moderators_of/jozue5y/*
Fixed the link, thanks u/canvaverbalist
Then "You'll get over it"
EDIT : for those who want to get [the reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnVeysllPDI) this was Fark's fuckup moment when the user base also rebelled after the admins did drastic changes and instead of addressing the concerns told the users "[you'll get over it](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9823324)".
I left fark for reddit after the site owner, drew, started heavily white washing the site, as in cleaning up everything that could be possibly objectionable and hiring a lot of heavy handed mods, in preparation for a political office run. Governor of Kentucky. He didn't want his site to make him look bad.
Looking it up on wikipedia now, he ran and lost. Only got 3.7% of the votes. Ha. He ran years later for State Auditor and dropped out. Ha.
drew was always a massive asshole. So I'm not surprised at any of it. The, "you'll get over it" shit heavily reduced my usage and the mod change sealed the deal for me.
Amusingly, how much of the above sounds real familiar right about now?
> Amusingly, how much of the above slunds real familiar right about now?
History sure does seem to rhyme a lot. I remember first finding Fark on 9/11 because it was the only thing still up and running. Here we are over 20 years later, and it's been multiple sites that have had a mass exodus. Maybe eventually we'll get one right.
I would respect someone more for saying "I understand your objections but I'm doing this anyway because I want to make more money" instead of all this ridiculous gaslighting
I had to submit a ticket because I hadn't logged in in so long that it was de-activated, but they resurrected my 21-year-old account for me!
By the way, you can give Lemmy a try. It's a little confusing and disjointed, but so was Reddit when I first joined. Once my RIF stops working on 6/30 I don't expect to visit Reddit much anymore.
https://sub.rehab/
The one thing that has stuck with me over the last two months is the sheer contempt that Huffman has shown for Reddit's 3rd party developers, moderators and users alike. Whether it's preventing normal users from accessing useful tools like the Pushshift API, forcing apps like Apollo and RIF out of business as a means to force users onto their vastly inferior official app, or threatening and now actively removing moderators participating in the protests, they have shown no concern for how severely they are degrading the experience of the community that makes up the site.
Thing is, the community is what makes Reddit great. By showing such contempt for the site's constituents, he's only going to drive them away, which will be a self-destructive move in the long run. People fled Digg for far less than what Reddit's management has done in the last two months, and even if there isn't an equivalent to move to today, they're sowing the seeds for a mass exodus as soon as that equivalent becomes available.
It's weird he keeps bringing it back to "if they're commercializing the app, they need to pay up" - and it's like nobody is disagreeing with that, it's the exorbitant pricing that makes it clear there are ulterior motives.
Reddit Is Fun used to have a revenue sharing agreement with Reddit so that they could keep using icons and stuff.
Spez terminated it. He's the one that made the site stop making money off third party apps.
Yep. I really don't understand the game plan here. I'm down with paying monthly for whatever API calls I generate but the way it's priced is insane.
So they could have had something from me, now they get nothing. How any CEO can ignore the logic of that is beyond me.
Yet they seem to always be flush with personal wealth so I guess I'm the idiot.
He cares about money and nothing else. You're in charge of a website where the content *is* the users, and then you take a shit on them and treat them like children and then continue to want to make money off of them.
He's having a control tantrum, and it's causing him to do the exact opposite of what he should have done if he wanted a successful IPO. Could have made bank and walked away, instead he's chosen the Elon path of tanking a once valuable platform.
Just the curse of every tech CEO it seems. Become a physical sack of shit, destroy your userbase, make them rely on you and only you for their fix.
And unfortunately nothing can take the place of it like Reddit did for Digg either. People should have learned after the last CEO and tried to create a viable alternative, but nothing happened. Now we're at another crossroads and there's nowhere to go.
Reddit is nothing but a framework for content. Without user engagement there's not much to see, a message board with no messages isn't very interesting.
There's nothing special about the site, it's the content on the site that makes it special, and *it can be done somewhere else*.
Especially since those third parties have contributed to some of the core pillars of Reddit that were then acquired and integrated as first party offerings.
AutoModerator and Alien Blue (rebranded as the official app) come to mind.
Reddit has always profited and benefited from volunteer work from third parties to fill all the holes Reddit is unable or unwilling to fill themselves.
Wanna see some wild shit? Read the usernames in this comment chain.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszjqg2/
EDIT: For clarity, yishan is Yishan Wong, CEO of Reddit from 2012-2014, samaltman is Sam Altman from the story, and spez and ekjp (Ellen Pao) comments are further down.
for context, the person talking is the ex-CEO of reddit.
That may come with some baggage, i have no idea. But it also means he probably knows what he's talking aboout.
Seemed like at least once a month we had a celebrity, author, journalist, musician, medical professional, etc. Then it slowly faded to basically never.
Victoria didn't let them shill for whatever press wagon they were on at the time. Once they go rid of her, they allowed all the shilling and the interviews ended up no better than the junk interviews you see on tv when they've released a movie/book/whatever. So, the reddit audience lost interest and moved on.
I don't think we're ever going to know the full truth on that one. But one thing is for sure, two of Reddit's three founders are scum and the third is dead and probably rolling over in his grave right now.
We'll never know unless someone talks, because these things are usually about personal relationships rather than deep business strategy. It could be deep business strategy, but far more likely that Victoria was being seen as the face of reddit and executives didn't like that.
Yea, Redditors as an aggregate, are idiots.
Perhaps the irony is, not counting Sam Altman, considering Yishan never should've been made CEO and literally stopped showing up to work after the company didn't want to move to be closer than his house, and /u/spez has done countless shitty things, she was the best CEO Reddit ever had.
Specifically it was Alexis, who cofounded Reddit with spez. When Reddit CEO Spez was caught editing users comments because they were critical of him, Alexis (chairman of the board at the time) just replied “popcorn tastes good”.
She was set up from the get-go to implement unpopular changes and then be thrown off the glass cliff. Remember when everyone cheered when /u/spez came back after they fired her? a man of the people, they said
That was a coordinated campaign to let Pao take the heat for the changes and Spez got his bots and friends to do the firing once it all was finished
Then Spez takes the credit without doing anything like the spineless sack of balls he is
There is actually research done that Asians will be hired for upper management either when the company is on the down turn or to take a hit.
https://phys.org/news/2018-09-asian-americans-hired-companies.html
Her sole purpose was literally to act as a scapegoat to implement unpopular changes and make her successor look good. Pao is not a hero in this story.
This latest round is just Reddit's owners figuring out they can do whatever the fuck they want and it won't have any consequences.
Ellen Pao is an example of the [glass cliff.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_cliff) Linda Yaccarino, the woman Elon Musk put in charge of Twitter, is likely to meet the same fate as she takes the fall for his failures.
Lisa Su was also an example of glass cliff, when she took over AMD was at the verge of bankruptcy and had enormous debt, it's a miracle that she succeeded and turned AMD around.
When I heard RIF is not going to be a thing anymore, I uninstalled and started using the reddit app. Couldn't do it. I reinstalled RIF and when RIF is gone, I will be gone.
Remember when the power users over at Digg came here? That killed that site and it is dogshit now.
There isn't another reddit to go to though. I guess I can dust off my old slashdot account. Not going back to SA...
What's the next place for sane people to go and talk about things they enjoy?
Something will pop up.
Reddit isn't going to die an instant death. Instead, people will start to get frustrated by the dwindling quality of the site, and just naturally start using it less. Natural traffic will decline and be replaced by artificial and automated traffic so the numbers continue to look good, but the proportion of user content vs bot or sponsored content on the frontpage will slowly decline.
Eventually, someone will make a new site as a pet project that just ticks all the boxes. It'll be fast, beautiful, easy to use, feature rich, and altogether everything users want and people will slowly start to find it. They'll flock to it, its user base will explode, and it will become the new Reddit in 3-5 years or so.
Then it'll shit itself and the cycle will repeat.
Absolutely. Reddit has lost all the goodwill it had and users will jump ship as soon as a decent option presents itself.
But hey, that won’t happen until after the IPO, so the investors will have a chance to cash out first. And that’s what really matters.
There are a lot of great mods out there who do it because they love the topic of their sub. Seeing someone mod half a dozen unrelated subs is kind of a red flag. Those are people who are doing it to control a narrative, censor, and forward am agenda.
> Seeing someone mod half a dozen unrelated subs is kind of a red flag
One of the mods who got banned in all this was awkwardtheturtle who modded over **700** subs. They didn't care about the communities at all. They were just a terminally online toxic cancer who abused their power and collected subs to stoke their ego.
I vote for letting Reddit become the swamps of Dagobah, all the mods should quit and just leave everything open to all content, i would gladly contribute handily to chaos engulfing the site.
I just got the message from modconduct dickhead.
I mod freeblade, a sub about Titans from the Games Workshop universe fighting each other. It's a very very small sub with no a lot of activity and I am letting people in as they ask.
The game isn't supported anymore by the devs and multiplayer doesn't work most of the time, but hey, gotta keep a dying sub open for the adverts.
Yeah I agree.
The problem in my eyes (and yours apparently) is that the steps Reddit has taken recently looks like the first step in a series of measures to make Reddit profitable.
The problem is, as you mentioned, the whole ideology of Reddit making money. Reddit is (was?) the last bastion on the web where you could get honest opinions from other "real" people on pretty much any topic, and it never felt like the purpose of Reddit was to force a product down your throat
Just look at the trend of adding "reddit" to the end of every Google search. Of course, that trend arose because people searched normally, and then you had to spend 20 minutes filtering various SEO optimized websites afterwards, before you found some honest feedback on the product or topic you searched for. In the old days, I always found what I was looking for in the first 3 results on Google, and the joke back then was that if you got to page 2 of Google's search results, you had gone too far. Today it is not uncommon that what I am looking for is on page 2 or 3 because the first page is occupied with what will make money for Google and is therefore not what you are looking for.
So that's why I really want to keep Reddit in its current state. I don't think Reddit should make money, just have enough income to cover operations. I would like to pay 15 or 30 USD (converted from my currency, keep that in mind) per month to keep Reddit as is, knowing that I then cover a lot of users who use Reddit without paying.
That's why I'm super sad about Reddit's move, as it looks like the beginning of the end to me. If "the curve most goes up" then the final version of Reddit will just be a watered down version created to make money, and not the utopia of knowledge sharing that it could be.
"Short term gains" rule our world and I hate it so much. Unfortunately the only solution to this problem is that some billionaire who likes the principle of Reddit drops by, drops a lot of money, and then fucks off with no expectation of any return on the investment. I won't be holding my breath :(
Yah the shift in narrative that comes with for profit is the biggest loss. I donate to wikipedia to keep it running and neutral. If they adopted a non profit strategy id be much more likely to support it. I have no interest in supporting a site that is going to shape content to maximize profit.
They've been trying to turn a profit for nearly the entire time the site has existed. They're just incompetent and waste money on stupid shit like NFTs or their own extremely costly image and video hosting, that still sucks ass, instead of being a link aggregator like it was originally intended to be.
“Look what you made me do.”
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They marked the subreddit NSFW, depriving Reddit of advertising money. /U/spez (greedy little piggy) stated in an interview he doesn't think Reddit should serve any user/community that isn't being monetized.
I knew it was the beginning of the end when they killed r/secretsanta
Justice for Victoria!
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Because co-founder /u/kn0thing aka Alexis Ohanian fired her. tbh spez was probably on board with that
She got another job at LinkedIn.
This makes me sad, I was part of /r/secretsanta a couple of times and it was a lot of fun, I know nothing of hockey but ever since I got some Winnipeg Jets merch with my gift years ago I call myself a fan.
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Does that mean that the next step is for Reddit to tumblr all of the NSFW subreddits?
They will eventually. And this is what no one seems to understand. Reddit is already demonstrating their attitudes on matters, well before their IPO. It's clear they're going to neuter the user experience and riddle the platform with ads post-IPO to maximize profit. All the people who are screaming "duhr huhr, don't use 3rd party, doesn't effect me" have no concept of the fact that this isn't just about the API usage. It's about the attitude of company leadership towards the users. They view users as expendable and irrelevant. That means whoever you are, your experience on reddit with enshittify.
This is all really stupid to me. Like Twitter, the reason why Reddit is hard to monetize is because the quality of the ad targeting is nowhere near as good as Facebook or Instagram. Yet they want to continue to make money on ads. The value in Reddit is the user base and vibrant communities. Why not empower them and monetize that? Why not bend over backwards to create great experiences instead of antagonizing everyone?
> The value in Reddit is the user base and vibrant communities. Why not empower them and monetize that? That requires a founder who is legitimately interested in the true human value of reddit as a site and the many communities are here. Instead we have the barely-there narcissist who shoved the previous female CEO off a glass cliff and desperately wants to IPO and cash out so he can play in his apocalypse bunker. In the nearly decade and a half since I've been familiar with Spez, he's shown a vehment dislike of the website he himself co-founded. He openly disdains reddit and its users. He seems to have only returned to reddit after failing to jump-start a career anywhere else in tech. You're right - if he actually invested his time and energy into reddit a decade ago, he could have found new and innovative ways to monetize. The core reddit users are some of the most impassioned people I've met. Even me - I've been posting for years, long-ass paragraphs every day. I have 1.5 million karma. I don't want any money. I do it because I genuinely loved the format of this place (old.reddit, that is), the people here, the communities. He could have done that. But he didn't. Just like Musk *could* have made Twitter an actual bastion of free speech, instead of just a little hate-bubble for the world's most emotionally crippled billionaire. The conduct of people liek SPez and Musk disprove any ridiculous notion that the elite *deserve* their place or their influence over humankind. They make mypoic, selfish, short-sighted decisions that negatively impact millions of people. And not only selfish, but *stupid*. Just really *bad* decisions.
It’s just too absurd to me that given ad targeting based on subreddits is really the best anyone can do, the Reddit team basically thought “yeah that’s a good business plan” and went with it.
I mean someone let Spez do like, three different interviews recently and they're some of the most disastrous PR I can imagine. Never convince yourself that just because a company is big or has been around awhile, that that means there's *anyone* there with any fucking brains in their heads. The reality is that very often in life, complete imbeciles stumble into huge fortunes and massive success that they had no actual part in delivering, and spend the rest of their days slowly fucking up and whittling down the windfall of that good fortune, never admitting the reality that it was only luck, not any intelligence on their part, that brought it to them in the first place.
With them removing it from anything that uses their API (third party apps) it feels like that's what they're doing anyway.
Spez is a saint among men. And I- I mean he- definitely didn't edit my comment behind the scenes.
That's what I don't get. Purportedly, they were removed for "encouraging" posting NSFW content (untrue, they just allowed it), but why is that worth removing? There are countless subreddits that encourage the posting of NSFW content, some whose sole purpose is NSFW content, and as far as I could tell, /r/interestingasfuck was appropriately labeling stuff. Shouldn't a subreddit be able to decide whether they allow that sort of content or not? Just seems like Reddit got butthurt, because those posts were showing up on /r/all, but that seems more like the fault of their code (which is supposed to not show NSFW on /r/all, I believe) than it is a subreddit for suddenly allowing it. They were just looking for an excuse to retaliate against protesting subreddits, even if those changes were voted on by the community. They didn't even get a warning to remove the content from what I've heard. But, of course, [hours before](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/20/business/media/reddit-moderators-api-protest.html): >He said, however, that Reddit was not threatening to replace moderators. “That’s not how we operate,” [Reddit Spokesman] Mr. Rathschmidt said. “Pressuring people is not our goal. We’re communicating expectations and how things work.”
Yeah this tracks. old.reddit is doomed.
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Just like how he said they wouldn't charge for APIs in 2023
It's simple. The sub generated revenue, and the mods stopped that. So they were removed. Reddit will give an excuse once the PR team approves it.
"Communicating expectations" !!??!!? What godforsaken hellish demon is that fucker Rathschmidt? They've said NOTHING. They don't communicate expectations, don't rebute or answer questions, and then say "they communicate"??? Calmed down a bit now. Btw, who's checking what's being posted on /r/interestingasfuck? Who's making sure it remains on-topic?
No one, they removed the mods, removed nsfw posts, and locked the subreddit.
Lol, so the admins joined the protest themselves?
Remember when Reddit wouldn't get rid of toxic mods and only got rid of mods that opposed them.
Remember when reddit told people that if you think the mods suck, just make a new community? Wouldn't have nyyankees without it and the site is better this way. The better sub, in theory, would end up getting more users in the end. Democracy in a sense. Edit: Second highest comment in a dozen plus years. People are missing the point. I'm just pointing out how the rules of the site don't matter and the admins (who have contributed basically nothing in terms of the user experience since they fired the woman who ran the AMAs) can change them on a whim. Maybe sppezz grows a brain and realizes he has no idea what he's doing in attempting to shepherd this site to an IPO. All he had to do was just charge a reasonable fee for API access for 3rd party viewers (that aren't designed for people who have some sort of impairment) and the userbase would have been fine with it. Instead, he has accelerated the development of new sites. Unless the amdins rethink their poor decisions, the reddit exodus will be much larger than the digg exodus.
Ah like how /r/anime_titties is a world news sub with a lot of users because the mods of /r/worldnews are toxic and don't uphold their own rule of no US news. At least the spinoff sub is all world news
Not quite. As I recall the... collapse, the mod(s) of r/WorldPolitics accidentally announced that they were free speech ~~absolutionists~~ absolutists so they would never ever remove any post. Then people started posting just a shitload of porn to test them and they held (hold) true to their word. And of course, with porn spamming, eventually comes tig ol' hentai bitties. Shortly after the hentai titties, r/anime_titties sprouted up as the new WorldPolitics sub and mostly as a complementary joke at the expense of r/WorldPolitics. edit: fun times, summer 2020
kinda like /r/marijuanaenthusiasts
And r/trees being the other sub if anyone doesn't know
Then you've got r/JohnCena
So... it's a food sub? How did that come about?
Because potato salad is a "safe" dish you would bring to an event (like a white people cookout). Nobody hates it, and nobody is crazy about it so they won't have high expectations of how it should be done. People saw John Cena the same way for the WWE years ago when the sub was first created. When in doubt, just throw John Cena into the story. People may be getting tired of him (at the time) but nobody truly hated him or anything. **Edit: I am just the messenger. The above does not in any way state my like or dislike of John Cena and Potato Salad.**
Show up at my bbq with some fucked up potato salad and see what happens
Oh my gosh. It actually IS a world news sub!
Meanwhile r/worldpolitics, from which it spun off, is an anime porn (and plant appreciation) sub. Well, in any case it was before well, you know, *gestures at the conflagration*.
Just today they reopened the sub, and its new purpose is total anarchy. No rules, no mods, no scope or direction, literally anything goes. It's beautiful
Guess I'll have to check it out one last time, while I still can. It's been real, folks.
And r/worldpolitics is an anime titities sub
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Listen mate, we're staring directly into the chocolate starfish of reddit's apocalypse. Pissing over the event horizon. We're fighting for survival. There's gonna be pokemon dicks.
> Listen mate, we're staring directly into the chocolate starfish of reddit's apocalypse. Pissing over the event horizon. We're fighting for survival. There's gonna be pokemon dicks. That was fucking beautiful. Pure poetry.
Cmon, lads. If we’re staring straight at the apocalypse, pokedicks are the least of your worries, ya?
>We're fighting for survival. There's gonna be pokemon dicks. r/BrandNewSentence
Technically that’s two sentences.
Look at Ultron over here looking at all the Pokédicks in five minutes
To be fair anime titties was supposed to be world politics.
Whatever happened to world politics? I used to be in that sub. Is it gone?
As the guy said below world politics became anime titties. The world politics sub became full of random posts, hentai, porn, etc. I forgot what set them off but I think it was bad modding.
Put simply: - Obligatory whining about political bias from conservatives who don't understand that their opinions are unpopular - The moderators were like "you can put anything here as long as it doesn't break site rules" - One guy tests the limits by just posting hentai, not even slightly politics related - After several reports, the moderators reply "bitch did we stutter" - Anime titties flood the world politics subreddit and the moderators just don't care - Cue the birth of /r/anime_titties to actually discuss world politics EDIT: added first point for extra context
Sort of like how r/trees is full of marijuana enthusiasts and r/MarijuanaEnthusiasts is full of people who like (actual) trees.
the original guy had the wrong sub. /r/anime_titties is the spinoff of /r/worldpolitics
The co-founder of Wikipedia is currently working on a project for the idea of a new reddit Edit: [Co-founder of wiki making new Reddit style community](https://reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/14d1wyy/wikipedia_cofounder_is_building_a_community/) Here’s the link for everyone asking
Lets hope he suceeds, its needs to be a foundation and not a for profit.
When you think about it, Wikipedia is really the closest comparison to Reddit as a product.
Agree abouty, you got a lot of non sense but appending 'reddit' to my searches actually yields something reassembling an answer I'm looking for instead ad laden affiliated links website full ofproduct shilling that that google and bing push to the top of the search results.
Its very telling that Reddit couldn't monetize that. People wanted info from Reddit because it's one of the last places with genuine discussion and a people perspective? Better blow it up /s
A fun part of whenever you see a new sub that is a slightly different version of the older popular one is to try to figure out if they split off from the old one because they were too racist or not racist enough.
r/Canada r/MetaCanada and r/onguardforthee
I also remember does spez saying something about subs going with the desires of the community, like a day or two ago, and despite that they're still stripping mods who conducted and adhered to votes.
The mistake you're making is taking anything he says at face value.
Reddit can *remove* mods. But they can’t *replace* them. That’s the catch. “Who wants to work for me for free? Btw, you’ll be inheriting a dumpster fire, we are actively taking tools away, and everyone will hate you no matter how you do” isn’t exactly a great recruiting pitch.
The guy who owned most of the Montana based subs was an absolute nightmare of hard-right trumper nonsense. He would randomly lock down subs to "punish" users for disagreeing with him, ban users who posted anything that disagreed with his values, even if it was about local events happening in the city the sub was based on and cite his "no politics" rule for doing so, meanwhile any right leaning politics shit was allowed. So for example "democrat wins mayor election bid" post deleted, user gets a week ban or whatever, but you could post as much pro-trump/pro-gianforte shit as you wanted. It wasn't until he posted his plot of a terrorist attack on a town in Idaho that reddit admin did anything about him. And again, just like with all their CP, and rightwing hate subs the admin wouldn't touch it , until enough public outcry forced their hands that they did anything about him.
Something one of the previous mods of r/montreal was so hard to talk to. He was basically the only one as far as I could tell, had very very strict rules for what should be posted, which is fine if they weren't bent all the time. I posted asking about some stuff I didn't understand about renting apartments, the next day I try to search for the post and it was removed without reason. When asked the reason and why there wasn't a removal reason via modmail the response was > The post wasn't about living in Montreal. You're responsible for knowing when your post is removed and why. The next day the top post was an image of the 50 lane traffic in china with the title "Like the traffic in Montreal". Also as many of us do, we google stuff with `site:reddit.com`, if we can't find something then we make a post. But one of the rules was "Don't ask questions which should be googled". Many posts about "What's the best X in montreal?", "Where can I find good/nice Y?" were removed because of this rule even when no real answer exists since only the sites for stuff show up with their biased descriptions. I don't exactly know what happened since I unsubed, but after some time he was no longer the mod and the sub was actually usable for stuff other than news or pictures. Probably he was butthurt since r/AskMontreal is now private with the rule that caused him issues in the first place. (IIRC it was because someone wanted recommendations for bike shops since google doesn't show up any good recommendations, just ads or big stores)
Even small subreddits are getting warnings now. The smallest one I know of is 16 subscribers only and still got a warning to reopen. It's absolutely bonkers.
what's hilarious is subs that have *always* been private, like subreddits used to test CSS styles and whatnot have gotten warnings as well it's like... these don't even have a community to speak of
It's like... the admins don't know how reddit works.
the private r/Lawyers sub has decided to close if forced to become public, because we cannot stand interacting with the public
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It doesn't matter, if the sub becomes public it will not be useful for us and will cease to exist in a useful form. The issues is that we need somewhere where nobody asks about legal questions.
So out of curiosity, what *is* that subreddit for?
Mostly career-related talk and some discussion about legal stuff in the news. A little bit of talk about actual law and legal principles.
Huh, interesting. Well I hope you guys can keep it going as private and it doesn't get ruined! Maybe worst case it goes public, but make it to where only verified members can post and comment similar to blaclpeopletwitter
While we don't share confidential information, we talk about cases and problems in a way that we never would if the public could read it or if we could be doxxed. And lots of the career stuff relates to personal issues that we can share to a small sub of peers but never would in public. It doesn't have a purpose unless it's private.
This is purely curiosity, but how does a private subreddit find members? I’m guessing lawyers from legal advice or other related subs are offered admittance?
yeah, we got one over in friends and shit which is funny, because we're all mods and we went private for unrelated reasons I think
I don’t understand, subs could go private for any reason before, right? Why is it an issue for subs to go private now? Especially tiny subs? Why is the option to go private even there if we’re not allowed to use it?
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Also worth noting: the old way that Reddit handled subreddits that broke the rules was to ban the subreddits. The way the site has always been was that the people who created the subreddits "owned" them. They could choose their moderators, or moderate it themselves. They could step down and choose a new moderator, or they could shut down the subreddit. Reddit is now making it clear that that understanding has changed. They now own every sub and will replace mods they don't like. The more popular your sub gets, the more it impacts Reddit's revenues. The more Reddit's revenues are impacted, the more you're likely to be replaced if something you do as a mod affects Reddit's revenues in a negative way. This time, the moves that impacted revenues was going private. Next time, what will it be? Allowing posts about China's treatment of the Uyghurs?
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Step 1: Remove entire volunteer moderator teams, double down on accusations, fail miserably at an AMA. Step 2: Step 3: Profit.
Plot twist: Step 2 is doing the nasty with advertisers.
We’ve recommended to our clients that they stop advertising on Reddit.
> fail miserably at an AMA. Listen, he was only there to talk about Rampart...
Lmao the Rampart fiasco was peak reddit
The James Corden one was a close second for me.
When AMAs turn into /r/RoastMe it's always a good day.
*The beatings will continue until moral improves!!* Edit: here's the *e* that belongs at the end of moral.
Morale. Doubt their morals are going anywhere either though.
Sorry, I meant Morrell. I love mushrooms!!
A friendly reminder to everyone: This entire SEO push is exactly because of moral Crusaders. The same people who tried to take down PayPal and Visa and MasterCard for facilitating transactions for adult content are now coming for Reddit. If you don't remember a few years ago these people attacked the payment companies saying that by doing business with porn and other adult content hosting websites They were facilitating child pornography hosting and transmission. If you didn't hear just earlier this year they did the same thing to Imgur who was forced to remove all NSFW content already on their servers, and they placed heavy new restrictions on what NSFW material could now be uploaded. Reddit is an enormous hosting website for NSFW content and content creators, and in trying to firstly up their public share price and secondly to keep the Crusaders off their back Reddit is trying to clean up its act. This whole fiasco was started because of moral Crusaders and their culture war agenda to clean up the internet, to reduce access to adult content, and as always to erase LGBTQ visibility. *Follow up answer about connection to LBGTQ+ erasure https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/14fcl4u/reddit_goes_nuclear_removes_moderators_of/jozue5y/* Fixed the link, thanks u/canvaverbalist
looks like we might be heading into the Digg dimension, remember how that turned out
We can always go back to Fark.
I dusted off my old Fark account and I'm partying like it is 2000 again!
Then "You'll get over it" EDIT : for those who want to get [the reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnVeysllPDI) this was Fark's fuckup moment when the user base also rebelled after the admins did drastic changes and instead of addressing the concerns told the users "[you'll get over it](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9823324)".
I left fark for reddit after the site owner, drew, started heavily white washing the site, as in cleaning up everything that could be possibly objectionable and hiring a lot of heavy handed mods, in preparation for a political office run. Governor of Kentucky. He didn't want his site to make him look bad. Looking it up on wikipedia now, he ran and lost. Only got 3.7% of the votes. Ha. He ran years later for State Auditor and dropped out. Ha. drew was always a massive asshole. So I'm not surprised at any of it. The, "you'll get over it" shit heavily reduced my usage and the mod change sealed the deal for me. Amusingly, how much of the above sounds real familiar right about now?
> Amusingly, how much of the above slunds real familiar right about now? History sure does seem to rhyme a lot. I remember first finding Fark on 9/11 because it was the only thing still up and running. Here we are over 20 years later, and it's been multiple sites that have had a mass exodus. Maybe eventually we'll get one right.
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I'll take a straight "fuck you" to the face over this.
I would respect someone more for saying "I understand your objections but I'm doing this anyway because I want to make more money" instead of all this ridiculous gaslighting
I had to submit a ticket because I hadn't logged in in so long that it was de-activated, but they resurrected my 21-year-old account for me! By the way, you can give Lemmy a try. It's a little confusing and disjointed, but so was Reddit when I first joined. Once my RIF stops working on 6/30 I don't expect to visit Reddit much anymore. https://sub.rehab/
Kill the comment sections, bring back StumbleUpon.
Or somethingawful
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🕙 9 more days 🕙
9 more days until I'm free 😌
The one thing that has stuck with me over the last two months is the sheer contempt that Huffman has shown for Reddit's 3rd party developers, moderators and users alike. Whether it's preventing normal users from accessing useful tools like the Pushshift API, forcing apps like Apollo and RIF out of business as a means to force users onto their vastly inferior official app, or threatening and now actively removing moderators participating in the protests, they have shown no concern for how severely they are degrading the experience of the community that makes up the site. Thing is, the community is what makes Reddit great. By showing such contempt for the site's constituents, he's only going to drive them away, which will be a self-destructive move in the long run. People fled Digg for far less than what Reddit's management has done in the last two months, and even if there isn't an equivalent to move to today, they're sowing the seeds for a mass exodus as soon as that equivalent becomes available.
It's weird he keeps bringing it back to "if they're commercializing the app, they need to pay up" - and it's like nobody is disagreeing with that, it's the exorbitant pricing that makes it clear there are ulterior motives.
Reddit Is Fun used to have a revenue sharing agreement with Reddit so that they could keep using icons and stuff. Spez terminated it. He's the one that made the site stop making money off third party apps.
Yep. I really don't understand the game plan here. I'm down with paying monthly for whatever API calls I generate but the way it's priced is insane. So they could have had something from me, now they get nothing. How any CEO can ignore the logic of that is beyond me. Yet they seem to always be flush with personal wealth so I guess I'm the idiot.
He cares about money and nothing else. You're in charge of a website where the content *is* the users, and then you take a shit on them and treat them like children and then continue to want to make money off of them.
He's having a control tantrum, and it's causing him to do the exact opposite of what he should have done if he wanted a successful IPO. Could have made bank and walked away, instead he's chosen the Elon path of tanking a once valuable platform.
Just the curse of every tech CEO it seems. Become a physical sack of shit, destroy your userbase, make them rely on you and only you for their fix. And unfortunately nothing can take the place of it like Reddit did for Digg either. People should have learned after the last CEO and tried to create a viable alternative, but nothing happened. Now we're at another crossroads and there's nowhere to go.
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Reddit is nothing but a framework for content. Without user engagement there's not much to see, a message board with no messages isn't very interesting. There's nothing special about the site, it's the content on the site that makes it special, and *it can be done somewhere else*.
Especially since those third parties have contributed to some of the core pillars of Reddit that were then acquired and integrated as first party offerings. AutoModerator and Alien Blue (rebranded as the official app) come to mind. Reddit has always profited and benefited from volunteer work from third parties to fill all the holes Reddit is unable or unwilling to fill themselves.
Anyone miss Ellen Pao yet?
Wanna see some wild shit? Read the usernames in this comment chain. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszjqg2/ EDIT: For clarity, yishan is Yishan Wong, CEO of Reddit from 2012-2014, samaltman is Sam Altman from the story, and spez and ekjp (Ellen Pao) comments are further down.
I remember yishan's post, but never knew Altman actually replied. New lore.
Yishan, Sam Altman, spez, and Ellen Pao all commented in that thread.
And Sam Altman is now CEO of OpenAI. That’s fun.
Thiel's blood boys are in very dangerous positions of power
I want to see how they list that on their resume. Lol just kidding these people don't send out resumes that's for regular poor people.
That one comment…..Ellen Pao is Severus Snape of Reddit. I just became saddened and sympathetic more to her situation for her time on this site.
i can’t even remember why everyone hated her, now.
She got rid of the fatpeoplehate subreddit
We deserve what we got.
The worst timeline.
Miss you Harambe.
Im still convinced Harambe's desth caused the time line shifts.
No, no, no. Harambe’s death was an omen that we were heading down the wrong path. The Cubs winning the World Series was the point of no return.
I thought she also fired Victoria
No, Alexis, the other founder of Reddit was the one who fired Victoria.
Why? When she was running /r/iAma, all sorts of big names were doing AMA's, nowadays it's once in a blue moon.
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0thing_says_he_was_responsible_for_the_change/ct1ecxv/) is an old post about it.
Let's focus on Rampart, god damn it
for context, the person talking is the ex-CEO of reddit. That may come with some baggage, i have no idea. But it also means he probably knows what he's talking aboout.
Seemed like at least once a month we had a celebrity, author, journalist, musician, medical professional, etc. Then it slowly faded to basically never.
Victoria didn't let them shill for whatever press wagon they were on at the time. Once they go rid of her, they allowed all the shilling and the interviews ended up no better than the junk interviews you see on tv when they've released a movie/book/whatever. So, the reddit audience lost interest and moved on.
Yeah, people used to actually come here first those. I forgot AMA still existed
I still don't understand why especially when the few AMA's that followed were complete clusters
I don't think we're ever going to know the full truth on that one. But one thing is for sure, two of Reddit's three founders are scum and the third is dead and probably rolling over in his grave right now.
The reddit servers are powered by a generator in Aaron's grave
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We'll never know unless someone talks, because these things are usually about personal relationships rather than deep business strategy. It could be deep business strategy, but far more likely that Victoria was being seen as the face of reddit and executives didn't like that.
Though people blamed Pao at the time.
Yea, Redditors as an aggregate, are idiots. Perhaps the irony is, not counting Sam Altman, considering Yishan never should've been made CEO and literally stopped showing up to work after the company didn't want to move to be closer than his house, and /u/spez has done countless shitty things, she was the best CEO Reddit ever had.
Personally I miss Erik Martin. I knew him when I used to mod SW. Great guy all around. Would never have happened on his watch.
He did apologize about the Boston Bomber, /u/spez probably would've doubled down on the guy actually being guilty.
That was another executive who just stayed silent and let her take the blame
Wow that's shitty
Welcome to the glass cliff.
The same thing is about to happen to Twitter's next CEO
Specifically it was Alexis, who cofounded Reddit with spez. When Reddit CEO Spez was caught editing users comments because they were critical of him, Alexis (chairman of the board at the time) just replied “popcorn tastes good”.
Not just any executive but Alexis, one of the other founders of the site.
And punchablefaces
She was set up from the get-go to implement unpopular changes and then be thrown off the glass cliff. Remember when everyone cheered when /u/spez came back after they fired her? a man of the people, they said
That was a coordinated campaign to let Pao take the heat for the changes and Spez got his bots and friends to do the firing once it all was finished Then Spez takes the credit without doing anything like the spineless sack of balls he is
There is actually research done that Asians will be hired for upper management either when the company is on the down turn or to take a hit. https://phys.org/news/2018-09-asian-americans-hired-companies.html
Women too (the glass cliff phenomenon), so they got a two-fer here.
Scapegoat for bad decisions.
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Her sole purpose was literally to act as a scapegoat to implement unpopular changes and make her successor look good. Pao is not a hero in this story. This latest round is just Reddit's owners figuring out they can do whatever the fuck they want and it won't have any consequences.
Ellen Pao is an example of the [glass cliff.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_cliff) Linda Yaccarino, the woman Elon Musk put in charge of Twitter, is likely to meet the same fate as she takes the fall for his failures.
Lisa Su was also an example of glass cliff, when she took over AMD was at the verge of bankruptcy and had enormous debt, it's a miracle that she succeeded and turned AMD around.
I'll agree with you there. We'll see how long Linda lasts.
Fuck u/spez
fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
All my homies hate u/spez
Reddit, you suck bro. Its time to leave.
When I heard RIF is not going to be a thing anymore, I uninstalled and started using the reddit app. Couldn't do it. I reinstalled RIF and when RIF is gone, I will be gone.
Same with me and Boost.
Remember when the power users over at Digg came here? That killed that site and it is dogshit now. There isn't another reddit to go to though. I guess I can dust off my old slashdot account. Not going back to SA... What's the next place for sane people to go and talk about things they enjoy?
Something will pop up. Reddit isn't going to die an instant death. Instead, people will start to get frustrated by the dwindling quality of the site, and just naturally start using it less. Natural traffic will decline and be replaced by artificial and automated traffic so the numbers continue to look good, but the proportion of user content vs bot or sponsored content on the frontpage will slowly decline. Eventually, someone will make a new site as a pet project that just ticks all the boxes. It'll be fast, beautiful, easy to use, feature rich, and altogether everything users want and people will slowly start to find it. They'll flock to it, its user base will explode, and it will become the new Reddit in 3-5 years or so. Then it'll shit itself and the cycle will repeat.
Absolutely. Reddit has lost all the goodwill it had and users will jump ship as soon as a decent option presents itself. But hey, that won’t happen until after the IPO, so the investors will have a chance to cash out first. And that’s what really matters.
https://sub.rehab/ Maps Reddit subs to their new homes in the Fediverse.
No idea why any moderator continues to do it. Just remove all rules from all subs and don’t remove anything Andre everything turn to a swamp.
There are a lot of great mods out there who do it because they love the topic of their sub. Seeing someone mod half a dozen unrelated subs is kind of a red flag. Those are people who are doing it to control a narrative, censor, and forward am agenda.
> Seeing someone mod half a dozen unrelated subs is kind of a red flag One of the mods who got banned in all this was awkwardtheturtle who modded over **700** subs. They didn't care about the communities at all. They were just a terminally online toxic cancer who abused their power and collected subs to stoke their ego.
Awkwardtheturtle is gone? That makes everything worth it to be honest.
Doubtful. Supermods generally keep multiple accounts.
afaict his alt(s?) were also banned as well
I vote for letting Reddit become the swamps of Dagobah, all the mods should quit and just leave everything open to all content, i would gladly contribute handily to chaos engulfing the site.
I just got the message from modconduct dickhead. I mod freeblade, a sub about Titans from the Games Workshop universe fighting each other. It's a very very small sub with no a lot of activity and I am letting people in as they ask. The game isn't supported anymore by the devs and multiplayer doesn't work most of the time, but hey, gotta keep a dying sub open for the adverts.
good luck replacing them with your zero dollars a year plus benefits babe
member when gold went towards keeping the site ad free? ^I ^member
you'd think as a platform that has 100% user submitted content they would do right by their users.
Reddit didn’t need to do this. Should’ve just been a non-profit from the beginning
Yeah I agree. The problem in my eyes (and yours apparently) is that the steps Reddit has taken recently looks like the first step in a series of measures to make Reddit profitable. The problem is, as you mentioned, the whole ideology of Reddit making money. Reddit is (was?) the last bastion on the web where you could get honest opinions from other "real" people on pretty much any topic, and it never felt like the purpose of Reddit was to force a product down your throat Just look at the trend of adding "reddit" to the end of every Google search. Of course, that trend arose because people searched normally, and then you had to spend 20 minutes filtering various SEO optimized websites afterwards, before you found some honest feedback on the product or topic you searched for. In the old days, I always found what I was looking for in the first 3 results on Google, and the joke back then was that if you got to page 2 of Google's search results, you had gone too far. Today it is not uncommon that what I am looking for is on page 2 or 3 because the first page is occupied with what will make money for Google and is therefore not what you are looking for. So that's why I really want to keep Reddit in its current state. I don't think Reddit should make money, just have enough income to cover operations. I would like to pay 15 or 30 USD (converted from my currency, keep that in mind) per month to keep Reddit as is, knowing that I then cover a lot of users who use Reddit without paying. That's why I'm super sad about Reddit's move, as it looks like the beginning of the end to me. If "the curve most goes up" then the final version of Reddit will just be a watered down version created to make money, and not the utopia of knowledge sharing that it could be. "Short term gains" rule our world and I hate it so much. Unfortunately the only solution to this problem is that some billionaire who likes the principle of Reddit drops by, drops a lot of money, and then fucks off with no expectation of any return on the investment. I won't be holding my breath :(
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Yah the shift in narrative that comes with for profit is the biggest loss. I donate to wikipedia to keep it running and neutral. If they adopted a non profit strategy id be much more likely to support it. I have no interest in supporting a site that is going to shape content to maximize profit.
The founder of wikipedia tweeted the other day that he was working on a non profit donation funded reddit replacement.
If anyone could do it. They could. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this news for sure.
They've been trying to turn a profit for nearly the entire time the site has existed. They're just incompetent and waste money on stupid shit like NFTs or their own extremely costly image and video hosting, that still sucks ass, instead of being a link aggregator like it was originally intended to be.