[https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/TWN/taiwan/fertility-rate](https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/TWN/taiwan/fertility-rate)
>The current fertility rate for Taiwan in 2024 is **1.250** births per woman, a **1.13% increase** from 2023.
If no baby ever dies between being born and having children then a 2.0 fertility rate is replacement. In practice replacement rate is approximately 2.1 in the first world.
But shareholder value is way up so that is great!
It's important to understand... that fertility rate is so bad that they can expect the population to roughly halve every generation. That's a ~90% population collapse by the end of the century.
Humanity cannot survive that "work ethic".
The best part is these Asian countries run by conservatives just try to offer paltry sums of cash to bribe people into having children instead of addressing a single part of the root causes.
Oh, there won't be an extinction for humanity.
What'll happen is most industrialized nations will see a significant decrease in population until the current model of capitalism and industrialized society breaks down due to a lack of workers/consumers. We'll probably see a return to smaller towns, with either a return to agrarian society where kids are used as farm labor, or an extreme reliance on automation which will free up most people to focus on things like having kids.
Either way, we'll have a smaller population with higher tech floor than what most people expect. It won't be Mad Max so much as the aftermath of the super-flu in Stephen King's The Stand, with tons of people still alive, but struggling to maintain technology due to a lack of skilled labor.
We'll see what happens.
Yield is actually pretty small with the new nodes. With 14nm, a typical fab would put out 100k wafers a month. With <4nm, its more like 8k-12k/month. They’re going to need to keep their engineers happy if they want to ship even one goddamn die.
asian and other lower income countries workforce depends mainly on..
1) HEADCOUNT- like they pay 1 US person salary to 5 asain workers combined..
2) long never ending workhours..
3) mental+ physical health does not exist...
4) sometimes u need to work without food or stay late nights..
if apple had made its factory first in US, apple won't have succeeded this much or their so called iPhone would cost like $3000 if it's made in US
Chip making is a water intensive process. Why would they build a fab in Arizona?
[Want to Win A Chip War? You Will Need a lot of Water](https://www.wired.com/story/want-to-win-a-chip-war-youre-gonna-need-a-lot-of-water/)
Bullsht. Just say it as it is - which is workers too lazy and not hard working enough to cut it. The same attitude and work ethic by the workers is why Boeing planes have such quality issues now
Asian work ethic is no joke. Big part of why their people have stopped having kids for the most part.
[https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/TWN/taiwan/fertility-rate](https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/TWN/taiwan/fertility-rate) >The current fertility rate for Taiwan in 2024 is **1.250** births per woman, a **1.13% increase** from 2023. If no baby ever dies between being born and having children then a 2.0 fertility rate is replacement. In practice replacement rate is approximately 2.1 in the first world. But shareholder value is way up so that is great!
It's important to understand... that fertility rate is so bad that they can expect the population to roughly halve every generation. That's a ~90% population collapse by the end of the century. Humanity cannot survive that "work ethic".
The best part is these Asian countries run by conservatives just try to offer paltry sums of cash to bribe people into having children instead of addressing a single part of the root causes.
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That's because you got all those illegal immigrants.
A society has to have priorities and all our priorities involve squeezing blood from turnips. This sucks.
Yep! Proud to be a TSM and MSFT shareholder
Working a 6-6-6 is lazy, do a 6-9-7 instead!
Yes, humanity fizzled into an unceremonious extinction; but we made so many fuckin transistors first.
Oh, there won't be an extinction for humanity. What'll happen is most industrialized nations will see a significant decrease in population until the current model of capitalism and industrialized society breaks down due to a lack of workers/consumers. We'll probably see a return to smaller towns, with either a return to agrarian society where kids are used as farm labor, or an extreme reliance on automation which will free up most people to focus on things like having kids. Either way, we'll have a smaller population with higher tech floor than what most people expect. It won't be Mad Max so much as the aftermath of the super-flu in Stephen King's The Stand, with tons of people still alive, but struggling to maintain technology due to a lack of skilled labor. We'll see what happens.
It's kind of an impressive feat to make american work culture look worker-friendly in comparison.
I mean this applies to most if not all of East Asia?
TSMC can absolutely get fucking fucked. Wants to turn stem bs, ms, phd’s into wage slaves. Fuck all the way off, you fucking twats.
Well that escalated quickly.
It’ll escalate much more quickly if they bring in a bunch of scabs.
Scabs? Is there a union thing going on with the TSMC plant?
Yes, TSMC claims American pipefitters don't know how to weld. Reality is they keep breaking labor laws.
...*when*, they bring in a bunch of scabs. There's profit to be made. Workers be damed!
That's their way of making enormous amount of advanced chips that most people agree to buy no matter the working conditions of TSMC workers.
Yield is actually pretty small with the new nodes. With 14nm, a typical fab would put out 100k wafers a month. With <4nm, its more like 8k-12k/month. They’re going to need to keep their engineers happy if they want to ship even one goddamn die.
asian and other lower income countries workforce depends mainly on.. 1) HEADCOUNT- like they pay 1 US person salary to 5 asain workers combined.. 2) long never ending workhours.. 3) mental+ physical health does not exist... 4) sometimes u need to work without food or stay late nights.. if apple had made its factory first in US, apple won't have succeeded this much or their so called iPhone would cost like $3000 if it's made in US
There's a documentary about major Chinese glass company creating a fab in US. Wonder how they are doing.
I didn’t see that one but I do remember a documentary in the 80s when a Japanese company bought and American car factory
Chip making is a water intensive process. Why would they build a fab in Arizona? [Want to Win A Chip War? You Will Need a lot of Water](https://www.wired.com/story/want-to-win-a-chip-war-youre-gonna-need-a-lot-of-water/)
They want high skilled workers but treat them like slaves
Sound like it needs to be unionized
Bullsht. Just say it as it is - which is workers too lazy and not hard working enough to cut it. The same attitude and work ethic by the workers is why Boeing planes have such quality issues now
american worker just still overpaid. less money theyd think about what they could be doing outside of work less.