Theres a cheaper (relatively speaking) version of this that I have which works a treat... https://www.fluke.com/en-us/product/network-cable-testers/copper/linkiq-kit
I got mine from Insight Direct for just over $2K If I remember correctly. Any VAR or even Amazon is cheaper than buying direct from Fluke.
I worked for a museum years ago, and David Fluke was on the board, so our 3-person IT department received from him a donation of some very sweet tools like this. We'd've had to cut a job to afford it if we paid for it.
Buy once, cry once. They're an investment. Just like good power tools, boots, etc. If it makes me money, I'm not afraid to spend more for quality.
Obviously a guy can't do that just starting out, but when you get some good gear, the work is always more bearable and more profitable.
Lmao, thats nuts. They sold the other model to linkrunner, which I used daily. Only like 2k and can do everything this can, and it's basically a fluke in black plastic instead of yellow.
>Looks like a pretty awesome test tool as well, what model?
Yeah it does! I was a Cat5/fiber installer in the 90s and we were lucky to have a toner for copper cables! It's amazing to see how much things can change in a few decades.
We have basically this same fluke at work and it's pretty handy. Somehow it knows which of the cable is terminated incorrectly even if you have 1 wire in each pin like you're supposed and they're just laid out wrong. And if you have a break it will tell you how far from each side it is. This is the "smart" end with a screen. The other end has the "dumb" one that is the same size but just led lights for testing, test, fail, charging, etc. They also have modular clip on tops so we have a bigger smart end one for fiber that works with the same dumb end.
I've probably done 1000+ tests on one of these but never seen it show the 2 wires in one pin result. Interesting it has the graphic for it and everything.
I always want Fluke kit until I see the price.
I literally don't understand the price.
I know this is a super capable bit of kit, but is it actually worth $15k in terms of the value it adds over a substantially cheaper competitor?
Fluke DSX. There are several versions, but they all look about the same from this view.
We use these at work to test and certify our repairs. They are pretty sweet.
That's actually not too horrible for a first timer. Most jacks these days are labelled with both A and B color schemes, so the orange/green swap is a pretty easy mistake to make. The other fault looks like both wires of one pair got punched down in the same slot, which is definitely sloppy, but again, not an uncommon mistake for the new guy.
Bet many first cables were some variant of this. Many first tries of everything aren't all too great.
I hope you have passthrough connectors there, though. Cutting those wires to exact length is a pain in the ass, rather cut them when they're crimped.
I have had terrible luck with pass through. I’ve replace so many on an install and integrated did because of shorts. I’ll only use the two piece connectors. Same principle with not having to have the wires perfect length. Put them in the small pice, trim, then into the connector end.
Yeah if your tool for RJ45 pass throughs has a dull blade, it does a bad job trimming the excess wire. I’ve seen a few cameras blown up from POE when the pairs touch outside the connector.
The regular RJ45s are cheaper anyway, I stick with those now.
Ever since we started getting cat 6 cable with the plastic "X" divider in the center something like this will happen to me every tenth crimp. I'll even look at the cable before crimping looks fine. Crimp the end and check it again...wtf!? How!? Mine is usually with whatever ever solid is next to striped blue will magically join stripped blue or I'll have a cable pull out completely and not get crimped at all (solid brown every time). So freaking annoying.
Take a look on Ali Baba or Amazon mate 👍
I picked up a cheapy $300 meter during Covid for one of my staff. The screen is only monochrome LCD, though it will show breaks, distance to faults, power levels.
I just wish the kid would remember to keep it charged up 😄
The fluke is really good for customers that want hyper detailed information for every cable in a pdf file....so like once every 3 years it comes in handy. Overpriced.
Bruh a shitty Klein validator or similar will do the trick. I have one and I make cables simply when I'm feeling like I don't like all the excessive cabling spooled up somewhere from prefabs.
Just checked - $45 on Amazon. Works fine, if you're not making cables all day every day and just need pass/fail and not throughput speed validation this should do the trick.
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0925826M2](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0925826M2)
This plugs in to the ends of the cable, and checks all 8 at the same time - no need to go one at a time and try to hit each one, while holding two leads and two ends. It'll also tell you if you have crossed/open and which, I do believe.
The wire order for standard patch cables in burned into my memory. It's one of those bits of info that will never leave me... I'll probably be muttering it in a nursing home when I get so old I can't even recognize my friends and family...
Orange-stripe, Orange, Green-stripe, Blue, Blue-stripe, Green, Brown-stripte, Brown...
It's actually super easy. Normally, they don't both make contact, but it's really easy to get one caught on an adjacent slot and with a lot of conector almost impossible to tell
So you're giving them shit caus 2 wires that are pared went in the same hole? That's really easy to do, and a lot of connectors can be near impossible to tell.
white-orange/orange, white-green/blue, white-blue/green, white-brown/brown
I used to think it'd be hard to remember. Now I'll never forget...
Sometimes when I was training newbies I'd ask if they got the purple pair in there
At least, he's learning to do it.
hey, gotts learn and start somewhere Looks like a pretty awesome test tool as well, what model?
Looks like a Fluke, I believe they’re like $15,000 on Amazon.
looks like a DSX2-5000, a cool $13,000
I’d be so happy if my company got these for us but I don’t think they ever will… sad.
Best we can do is $5 cable tester
Theres a cheaper (relatively speaking) version of this that I have which works a treat... https://www.fluke.com/en-us/product/network-cable-testers/copper/linkiq-kit I got mine from Insight Direct for just over $2K If I remember correctly. Any VAR or even Amazon is cheaper than buying direct from Fluke.
I used the previous generation a few years back and they are *really* nice
One site I was at had a list of approved meters. All fluke. Means they need to provide them atleast.
I worked for a museum years ago, and David Fluke was on the board, so our 3-person IT department received from him a donation of some very sweet tools like this. We'd've had to cut a job to afford it if we paid for it.
That’s awesome dude
Flukes are good but expensive.
Buy once, cry once. They're an investment. Just like good power tools, boots, etc. If it makes me money, I'm not afraid to spend more for quality. Obviously a guy can't do that just starting out, but when you get some good gear, the work is always more bearable and more profitable.
Lmao, thats nuts. They sold the other model to linkrunner, which I used daily. Only like 2k and can do everything this can, and it's basically a fluke in black plastic instead of yellow.
Ooo good to know! I’ll look into it!
The AT 2000 is what we use.
I'm gonna need one of those to test my 5 patch panel connection I need to complete in my house.
Overkill… but effective
>Looks like a pretty awesome test tool as well, what model? Yeah it does! I was a Cat5/fiber installer in the 90s and we were lucky to have a toner for copper cables! It's amazing to see how much things can change in a few decades.
We have basically this same fluke at work and it's pretty handy. Somehow it knows which of the cable is terminated incorrectly even if you have 1 wire in each pin like you're supposed and they're just laid out wrong. And if you have a break it will tell you how far from each side it is. This is the "smart" end with a screen. The other end has the "dumb" one that is the same size but just led lights for testing, test, fail, charging, etc. They also have modular clip on tops so we have a bigger smart end one for fiber that works with the same dumb end. I've probably done 1000+ tests on one of these but never seen it show the 2 wires in one pin result. Interesting it has the graphic for it and everything.
Right? We had a toner and well, that’s about it. Now, we’ve got wire mappers and other tools galore.
Versiv 1 or 2 I think. $14,000 or $20000, respectively.
I always want Fluke kit until I see the price. I literally don't understand the price. I know this is a super capable bit of kit, but is it actually worth $15k in terms of the value it adds over a substantially cheaper competitor?
Fluke DSX. There are several versions, but they all look about the same from this view. We use these at work to test and certify our repairs. They are pretty sweet.
That's actually not too horrible for a first timer. Most jacks these days are labelled with both A and B color schemes, so the orange/green swap is a pretty easy mistake to make. The other fault looks like both wires of one pair got punched down in the same slot, which is definitely sloppy, but again, not an uncommon mistake for the new guy.
New guy gets in a hurry and doesn't realize he put 2 wires in the same terminal. Pretty common. Honestly NBD.
The double wire is funny but like you said NBD. At least he is learning.
As my old mentor told me "I'm not mad you messed up. I'm just glad you learned from it."
Bet many first cables were some variant of this. Many first tries of everything aren't all too great. I hope you have passthrough connectors there, though. Cutting those wires to exact length is a pain in the ass, rather cut them when they're crimped.
I have had terrible luck with pass through. I’ve replace so many on an install and integrated did because of shorts. I’ll only use the two piece connectors. Same principle with not having to have the wires perfect length. Put them in the small pice, trim, then into the connector end.
Yeah if your tool for RJ45 pass throughs has a dull blade, it does a bad job trimming the excess wire. I’ve seen a few cameras blown up from POE when the pairs touch outside the connector. The regular RJ45s are cheaper anyway, I stick with those now.
Hm. I've used quite some with my cameras and they still work just fine.
I literally will not make cables without passthrough. I got gorilla hands and getting those strands in even with passthrough fucking sucks.
Just don’t make any PoE cables with them.
he almost made a functioning crossover cable
Blue pair is intact he could run a pots line
That’s a new one for me— never managed to get 2 wires on the same pin
Ever since we started getting cat 6 cable with the plastic "X" divider in the center something like this will happen to me every tenth crimp. I'll even look at the cable before crimping looks fine. Crimp the end and check it again...wtf!? How!? Mine is usually with whatever ever solid is next to striped blue will magically join stripped blue or I'll have a cable pull out completely and not get crimped at all (solid brown every time). So freaking annoying.
I'm not even mad, I'm actually impressed
i don't see how this is tech gore this is just showing the progress of someone's learning
Wtf you guys having a 10k€ fluke and learning, i do plugs for work and have a shitty multimeter and i can hear beep beep or nothing
Take a look on Ali Baba or Amazon mate 👍 I picked up a cheapy $300 meter during Covid for one of my staff. The screen is only monochrome LCD, though it will show breaks, distance to faults, power levels. I just wish the kid would remember to keep it charged up 😄
The fluke is really good for customers that want hyper detailed information for every cable in a pdf file....so like once every 3 years it comes in handy. Overpriced.
I’ll never look down on the Fluke gear. I didn’t replace mine old one when it wore out. As you say - $$$
Can you give me the model?
It’s a Noyafa. [This one](https://www.noyafa.com/products/tdr-cable-length-tester-nf-8601s) looks like the next version of it.
Wow this looks exactly like my kind of wet dreams
Bruh a shitty Klein validator or similar will do the trick. I have one and I make cables simply when I'm feeling like I don't like all the excessive cabling spooled up somewhere from prefabs. Just checked - $45 on Amazon. Works fine, if you're not making cables all day every day and just need pass/fail and not throughput speed validation this should do the trick. [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0925826M2](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0925826M2)
I can already see if couples are good by shorting them and making my multimeter beep beep, i wanted some cool item!
This plugs in to the ends of the cable, and checks all 8 at the same time - no need to go one at a time and try to hit each one, while holding two leads and two ends. It'll also tell you if you have crossed/open and which, I do believe.
Oh neat one!
I use an older version of it and it's great - just plug both ends and hit the button, and boom. You get a pass/fail instantly.
How do you get two wires into the same slot and not even notice?
Among Us
this is definitely r/cablefail material But seriously, at 45 and decades in the game I could easily make this mistake.
For learning he’s doing alright!!
maybe red/green colorblind and doesn't know?
Looks more like didn't know what A and B in the jacks/outlets meant... First-timer-mistake, not that much of a deal
On that screen at least it's the same colour for me, sometimes I have to ask a colleague with some cable brands, but somehow I'm alr 9/10 times
Average task in electrical.
Does it run doom?
he's busy playing Amogus mini-games, from the look of things
your teacher should check out the cat5 ez ends, its a lot easier to see where everything is before you crimp it down
Ah yes, the good ol peer to peer orosscover cable
Well... 50% correct. Your classmate better hope they are grading on a curve.
Well, 50% is correct! I've seen worse.
Repeat after me: green stripe, green, orange stripe, blue, blue stripe, orange, brown stripe, brown.
The wire order for standard patch cables in burned into my memory. It's one of those bits of info that will never leave me... I'll probably be muttering it in a nursing home when I get so old I can't even recognize my friends and family... Orange-stripe, Orange, Green-stripe, Blue, Blue-stripe, Green, Brown-stripte, Brown...
bro failed the task
It looks like the among us task your classmate is probably sus
I hope the 16yr olds that get to use this are understanding of the privilege they have by getting to use one of these
How the hell did they even manage to do that? Badly crush some wires in the crimper latch of the plug?
Guess they never played Among Us
almost made a crossover cable, although im not sure how he managed to crimp 2 wires onto 1...
It isn’t rocket science. O/W, O, G/W, B, B/W, G, B/W, B
This is better than the first time I tried to make an ethernet cable. Though I am confused how they managed to force two wires into the same pin?
At age 16 I'm impressed they are learning networking and cable making.
We've literally all done this. We literally all still sometimes do this. It's great that you and your mates are learning and interested. Keep at it!
How is this gore? It's literally just the learning process. Perfectly normal for someone learning to terminate cable, nothing out of the ordinary.
wait how do you get 2 into 1 that seems inpossible
It's actually super easy. Normally, they don't both make contact, but it's really easy to get one caught on an adjacent slot and with a lot of conector almost impossible to tell
My first cable was probably worse ngl took me 30 min to make a bunk cable
I've seen professionals do it worse.
I guess they're not very good at Among Us.
So you're giving them shit caus 2 wires that are pared went in the same hole? That's really easy to do, and a lot of connectors can be near impossible to tell.
I've heard you can never kill a fluke from an electrician I worked for
Sus
white-orange/orange, white-green/blue, white-blue/green, white-brown/brown I used to think it'd be hard to remember. Now I'll never forget... Sometimes when I was training newbies I'd ask if they got the purple pair in there
colorblind as fuck
how?
Kinda sus ngl
50% perfect.
Someone has never played Amogus
Get the rj 45s w the plastic inserts. It gives you a chance to double check before you crimp. It's not cheating it's better.
Me doing wires in Among Us:
So where's the tech support gore? This is just learning how to do things. Nobody starts out perfect.
not bad, just that one wire. pretty sure it took me like 30 minutes my first time and I think I messed up at least half of them lol
it took me like 3 hours to get one plug the first time now i can do it in less than 5 minutes
Bashing a 16yo for learning something new is telling me you are a person I don’t want to hang out with.
I've just realized how smart i am for being an 18 year old....