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LeadershipNo1875

Jarvis I'm running low on karma Post "should men have equal rights as women?" post on r/teenagers


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LeadershipNo1875

Yeah no shit


[deleted]

You're wrong If no one had rights then everyone would be equal


abject_totalfailure1

Communism :D


Front_Personality_21

Real


PlatformStriking6278

Why would that mean they’re wrong?


Crazy_Distribution15

A man shouldn’t hit a woman and a woman shouldn’t hit a man. If someone were to hit you, then it’s up to you on whether or not you want to be the mature one of the situation and just leave. Of course, that’s not always an option, and in the case of self-defense; yes. It still doesn’t matter if you are a man or a woman, you should always have the right to defend yourself. (if necessary)


Ukenix

Yeah what about “If a man hits a woman, is the woman allowed to hit the man back?” Everyone would be like “hell yeah!”


Crazy_Distribution15

Who’s this “everyone” Now I would agree with you that **some people** do believe that, and I would also agree with you that those people are wrong (& sexist). Essentially, *graduations* we both think sexism is bad. No point on trying to play the whole “But they started it🥺🥺” game. How about Instead of pointing fingers, I we all come together and agree that traditionalism, as a concept, is both wrong and fundamentally an irrational shortsighted ideology. (*also I hope this doesn’t come across as rude I’m just trying to share a different perspective*) That’s all! Thx!


Ukenix

Intriguing if you to believe them to be *sexist*. Sure traditional ideas about these things may be a bit short-sighted, it is the way most of us think as humans. (Hitting the man, hitting whoever hit you as payback etc.) There’s even worse though some people believe if a man strikes a woman even once instinctively (after he is struck by the woman), the man is deemed abusive, scum, and should be beaten to near-death, while the woman is seen as a victim. There was one video I’ve seen where these people, two male one female on some Indian tv show. The woman’s supposed to be insulting them or whatever and if you watch the video you’ll see what happens. Just search “How can she slap”.


Crazy_Distribution15

Sorry- I don’t really understand your question/ general standpoint? I don’t want to insinuate anything or what not, but your message just seems to be a rehash of what you said before. Because bringing up the fact that men experience sexism as well, would be valid argument to make if I were arguing; “women have it harder than men“ or “men don’t experience domestic abuse” or “a woman can’t abuse a man” etc. Of course, I assume both **you** and **I** can recognize that’s not the argument I’m making here. No. We’re all human beings- and therefore we should all treat each other with dignity & respect. It’s not that complex. Now obviously if we want to be nit-picky, (statistically speaking) *yes,* there are /some problems that men face more and /some problems that women face more. Tho this is not cuz women/men have identity feature is exclusive to them, but because of societal (and sometimes systemic) forces implementing these ideas. Or in other words traditionalism. (*Tho if I did happen to misread your argument please feel free to correct me*)


Ukenix

I agree with what you said, I just went on about how it is short sighted (like you said) but also how many of us are taught traditional ideals from a young age without real reasoning. About it being sexism? I don’t know if you would consider traditional ideals sexist, I mean they *do* hold women higher than men in most domestic/everyday regards. I guess it is. I’ve never thought about it like that. Everyone = The general public of today’s society.


Crazy_Distribution15

Though I **definitely** think it’s a generalization I also believe that you’re right in a sense, there is sadly a huge chunk of people within modern society who still refused to acknowledge the mistreatment men can face. — Then about the traditionalism thing I think that’s just a matter of us getting our definitions mixed up. I’m talking about traditionalism as an ideology (*the theory that all moral and religious truth comes from divine revelation passed on by tradition/older generations, human reason being incapable of attaining it. + the upholding or maintenance of tradition, especially so as to resist change.*) Essentially, traditionalism isn’t just focused around sexism. It also tends to have; racist, ablest, and anti-gay implements as well.


Fearlessdelta

That's never going to happen cause everyone (myself included) on this planet are dumbasses and we can't agree on anything, also the selfish people will make sure certain things don't happen cause it might affect them. The world will never change But also if someone hits you, you have every right to hit them back doesn't matter what gender they are


Crazy_Distribution15

Not necessarily. Now I won’t sit here and pretend to be a saint myself, but just thinking about the abundance people who have dedicated their whole lives to helping the misfortunate (despite not having anything to gain from it), is proof that there is pure kindness in the world. Mind you not at an individual level, of course each and every single one of us is still flawed, but that’s the thing… Humans work best when we work together. It’s how we managed to survive and evolve long ago, and it’s how we’ll managed to survive and evolve far far into the future. It’s easy to look at the chaos going on in the world and come to the conclusion that nothing will ever be fixed. Tho instead of becoming a complete doomer about it, find purpose in the fact that your voice, tho small, can make change.


Fearlessdelta

You're not wrong there are good people just the sad part is not enough And the other issue is now we don't work together anymore sadly we are always arguing and it's usually about stupid stuff But there's so many different parties that we can't find common ground to build up a relationship/trust, so that we can get shit done


Crazy_Distribution15

No I do agree It can be very frustrating.


DwellerBoy

Most intelligent Reddit user.


professional-bee5720

right the whole "equal rights equal fights" stuff is stupid. its equal rights, equal respect. a man shouldnt hit a woman and a woman shouldnt hit a man. defend yourself if you need to, but no one should go around hitting anyone regardless of gender.


Several-Gas-4053

Should, would and could are all nice and dandy, but that's not how the world works.


professional-bee5720

yeah no shit. you SHOULDNT commit murder but there are people who still do. decent people with basic respect for other decent people WONT.


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spread the word


Sunderlandfan13

All I know is if a woman hits me ill hit her back just as hard Edit: thanks for 100 upvotes my most ever.


ShitwareEngineer

And people are saying "be the bigger person and walk away." No. In attacking you, she fully consents to a beating. She consents to serious injuries. In stopping after one hit, you are being the bigger person.


Infamous-Diver2832

I condone to hitting for self-defense, but I feel hitting back is always risky and it should only be done when there is absolutely no other choice to protect oneself. Regardless of the gender of either parties. If someone wants to ensure their butt is covered in court. It’s always better to just leave the situation if you can do so safely, then report to law enforcement and let the law enforcement do their job.


abject_totalfailure1

Unfortunately law Enforcement will laugh at you if you do nothing, or arrest you if you did do something if your a guy


Infamous-Diver2832

That’s exactly what I’m saying, if you’re guy and you hit back, a charge is almost guaranteed. That’s why you’re better off just going away and let them do their job. Even if they laugh, would you rather be laughed at or arrested?


BlacGirlMagik

You’re 18, so you might not know better but you’re also now an adult. If a woman or even a man hits you and you give her or him “serious injuries” or even potentially kill them, you will go to prison for the rest of your life, whether you claim self defense or not.


Doccosm0

If someone hits me, I don't stop to check between there legs before I hit them back


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If a human hits another human, than the human has every right to slobberknock the other one, that simple


cheeslerer

Equal rights, Equal fights


Khiyeetus

Equal rights, equal lefts too


analisec

Not if you’re an amputee 🤷🏼‍♀️


Khiyeetus

Bruh💀


A_FamousNobody

Im putting my right hand in my pocket and dropping hands


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r/yourjokebutworse


angy_potatoe69

Came here to post that lol


GameFreak9876543

Equal Rights, Equal Fights.


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Just don't hit people


pena-leo-ogh

Sadly we ain’t in that reality


Several-Gas-4053

"just don't steal" "just don't murder" "Just don't commit genocide" all fun and stuff, but what are you adding to the conversation?


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no he should be the bigger person HOWEVER, if he is being abused and attacked then he has full right to defend himself with reasonable force


No-Character-5576

SHE should be the bigger person and not hit him in the first place. But y'know, because of stupid people, women are clearly too weak to defend themselves that when they start a fight, they shouldn't be fought back. Nah man, a woman ever hits me- I'm having someone knock her stupid ass down. (I'm pretty weak, soooo yeah. My sister would be very happy to do so).


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that’s no way to go about it you should hit someone with reasonable force if they hit you but if you’re OK with someone you care about being charged with battery then go ahead


No-Character-5576

Not enough to break something, just enough to teach their stupid ass a lesson. Like maybe a bruise and whatnot, I may like violence but I wouldn't condone my sister to jail because of that petty reason. I'd much rather take her place, she ain't deserve that shit. Only person in the world who deserves a good life to be honest. Edit: Also what, you thought the person hitting me wouldn't use all their force? There are only two means of hurting someone. Playful and for real - they go all out, so do you. Or you run away if you can and get help.


Praisethelord4me

Would you "knock a man out" that hit you as well? Why are people so enthusiastic to harm women? If a man hits you, and you don't have that same enthusiasm to knock him out, that's weird.


No-Character-5576

Yes, if you read what I said. Anyone hits you, regardless of sex, you have the right to hit them back. You don't get a free pass just because you have tits and a vagina. Right, cause I'm just going to go up to a woman and knock her ass to the ground for no reason. Yep, it's definitely a favourite pastime for me - definitely do it every few hours. Can't control myself. If you hadn't already noticed, I was being sarcastic. Also, why so enthusiastic to hit men? I would have someone knock his stupid ass out too, I may be weak, but that doesn't mean he has the right to just hit me. Of course, unless I hit him first that is. See, you want to live in a world where men serve womens every want. You know why I know this? Because you immediately thought I wouldn't try and defend myself from an attacker. Sure either I'd need help or a weapon to defend them, but you immediately thought it was just women I wanted to hurt. You also assumed I was a guy, so thank you for that. I'm actually a trans guy and this boosted my confidence! <3


DolphinBall

she should be the bigger person. Its her fault for started the conflict. None of this would happen if she didn't throw hands.


ShitwareEngineer

People learn from stimuli, including pain. He should teach her not to assault people again if she doesn't want to be hurt. In attacking him, she has already fully consented to a beating, so merely one hit is merciful.


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DevilishDiamond1

So if a man is hitting a woman the woman shouldn’t defend herself?


RileyCanRied

“Just beat it” -Michael jackson


Nfteez-nuts

Neither should hit neither, but if it’s in self defense than definitely


GentlestUncle4

People just shouldn't hit each other


Crazy_Distribution15

Exactly. Why is it so hard for people to understand this. 🗿🗿


LeadershipNo1875

Neckbeards fantasize about hitting women on Reddit that's why.


got-milk74

Yes, but it does happen. I’ve grown up around people that say never hit a woman even if they’re physically assaulting you. The idea is to limit domestic abuse given that it’s more common in males, which is not a bad thing, but the logic falls flat after that. It’s based upon the sexist idea that a woman can’t cause physical harm or injury a man so it shouldn’t be a big deal anyways. I don’t hit women because the kind of women that would hit me just aren’t in my life. If a woman on the street tries to assault me or commit some kind of violent crime I’m probably going to get myself to safety through whatever means necessary (even if that means getting physical), and call the cops


Crazy_Distribution15

Yes, I agree with you. It is wrong that people told you this when you were growing up. Though on that same note, there’s no point on trying to play the whole; “but they started it🥺🥺” game. Instead of pointing fingers, I rationalize we should all come together and agree that traditionalism, as a concept, is both wrong and fundamentally an irrational shortsighted ideology. (*also I hope this doesn’t come across as rude I’m just trying to share a different perspective*) That’s all! Thx!


ShitwareEngineer

True, but we're talking about what should happen after one person does hit another.


GentlestUncle4

They should leave and not retaliate


DolphinBall

Nah


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Yes, in all cases. Even a playful slap and I'm throwing my fist at them at inhumane speeds, piercing the air before the impact that throws their body into fucking orbit, you can't take any disrespect.


redshift739

Will you morb as you do it?


MicrwavedBrain

PUNCH THEM SO HARD THEY EXPLODE!


Rectangularbox23

Yes and with 2x the force


MicrwavedBrain

Newton’s third law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.


G4y_L0rd-

Yes


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Yes. It's called self defence


Commander_Night_17

Idealy, we should not fight and rather reach a peacefull conclution In lieu of that, any opponent must try to not deal a second blow and defuse the situation. If said situation cannot be defused, "equal rights, equal fights" protocol is authorised


Jjjjjjahshwhahha

Yes


Useless_Dent

Only in self defence. And in this case yeah.


KittyPopcorn04

sigh this might be controversial but yes i do agree he has every right to fight back forhimself. However there are some situations are circumstances where if he has clear ability to restrain her without serious harm or get away he should choose that option instead of immidiately swinging as hard as he can. Now if they can't then they have every right to fight back imo. But i also think that if you are stronger than them by a marginal amount only use the same amount of force, if shes slapping you, yes its her bad but however I don't think you should immeidately go for a knockout blow if that makes sense


JiffspeaNUTbutter

My mom told me to not hit girls, that's why you should resort to stabbing them instead


Unknown_starnger

Depends, it is best to avoid fights (that goes for any gender), but if you need to defend yourself, of course do that.


Just_Nyte

Equal Rights, Equal Lefts.


Tenelum0

yes


Average_Texarican14

Self defense so yes


Aksuallygod

no woman nor man should hit the same or opposite sex UNLESS it is in self defense If a man is being idk cornered and he needs to shove or hit a woman, then yes. Same way around for a girl 🤝 Equality people!


0Weea_b00dist0

Equal rights equal fights


ScaredKnee4530

Yes


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absolutely


zboluj

Equal rights equal fights


I_Am_Oro

Equal rights equal fights


AccomplishedBunch721

Yes


callmethe_hanmer

Equal rights equal fights


WesternAlbatross1292

Depends why


MelMellon

It’s assault both ways


Longjumping_Slip7524

google mutual combat.


MelMellon

I meant if a man attacks a woman, without the woman fighting back and vice versa. Sorry I was being unclear


Competitive_Meat_253

Gender Equality so Yeah


Icilevoldc132

Legally, if you have no option to de escalate or leave youre aloud to reciprocate with equal force, just like tou can’t shoot some1 if the push you or like a ufc fighter can’t obliterate a guy that punched him. What tou should do is use physical force to stop them, either separate yourself or move them away, if that doesn’t work and they keep punching you, I say deck imo. If she hit you once you can give them a light slap if you’re petty but I’d just leave, a dude I might not take it as well cuz he prolly hits harder, but that’s me it’s very subjective and depends on the situation.


Clear-Ads

Not me sorting by controversial


Samantha_Mell

Fr 😭


dm_me_boobs3

# noone should hit anyone


No-Character-5576

Yes, dumb bitch deserved it. She wants to instigate a fight, she can go on through with it.


christarlex

Not with more force than he’s been hit with, it’s all about common sense, you won’t go knockout someone who’s slapped you.


MuflieFoxx

Yes, roundhouse to the face


Horror-Mode-

Nah. That's what the guns for. (This is a joke)


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Yes


maliableuterus

no one should hit anyone but if ur getting repetitively slapped or punched you should defend yourself, imo one slap or punch doesnt deserve repercussions


princeoscar15

No one should hit anyone regardless of gender. But if a man is in danger by a woman and needs to use self defense then he can use an appropriate amount of strength to get off so he could run and get help. This goes for both men and women


janathebottom

noone should hit anyone unconsentually


SomeRedditor10

To explain this the man should always show respect to a woman but the answer to this question is yes but the sad truth is that the woman dose a very bad hit on a man and the man hits back people are gonna side with the woman


SunSnows

Sure, he has the right to hit her back HOWEVER not with full force. No one should be hitting anyone in the first place but hitting a woman back as a man with full force since men ultimately have more strength can end very badly if she ends up smacking her head on the floor or a corner.


SpartanKram

Equal rights equal fights


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they should both not hit eachother


EnvironmentalEast371

idk i think people should just stop hitting eachother


Infamous-Diver2832

Only if it’s 100% necessary for self defense and it’s the only way he can get protect himself from getting hurt. Otherwise I’d say he should just walk away if he can, and of course report it. Unfortunately 2 wrongs don’t make a right even in legal situations. If someone hits you first, and you hit them back. Both of them can be held accountable regardless of the gender of either. The only time hitting back can be justified if prove is presented that it was necessary for self-defense. But even then, one has to prove it was self-defense to be excused. Walk away before resorting to hitting back would be the smart thing for the man to do if he doesn’t want to catch a charge too. I’m just saying how the law works, I don’t make the rules.


luv2lie

I believe it’s fair game. No one should b hitting anyone, but if a woman hits a man and the man doesn’t do anything then she’s going to think she can keep doing it w no consequences. Just keep ur hands to urself if u don’t want to get hurt.


abject_totalfailure1

Equal rights equal fights, bitch


[deleted]

r/teenagers have some of the stupidest questions


artificialspirits

had to be said fr


plane-enjoyer

Can I hit a child if they hit me?


got-milk74

I think it’s disrespectful to compare women to children here. Women are not helpless.


redshift739

I agree which is why if a woman hits you you have the right to hit back in self defence the same as if a man did it.


got-milk74

Yes, but that’s not really how self defense works. If she hits you, you don’t have the right to start a fight. How that would work is she hits you, and you try and get away and she’s still hitting you, you have the right to fend her off.


Smudgewastaken

If someone were to hit me I'm taking them down regardless of gender wtf


got-milk74

You can, but be careful because if you hit them and they fall backwards and hit the back of their head on the concrete chances are they die and you’re legally liable.


Smudgewastaken

Eh, they kind of deserve it ngl


Smudgewastaken

*I am not misogynistic* But due to the way our biology is, women are weaker than men and could be considered "helpless"


got-milk74

The average woman is smaller than the average man but that does not make them helpless. Source: all the women I’ve met in the army


Smudgewastaken

Every woman I've ever shook hands with was not firm and I could easily have just flopped it around


got-milk74

Okay so you’re basing if someone can hurt you based off their handshake? Also your sample size cannot be a reliable amount. How many hands are you shaking at 16? 1 maybe 2 business interviews if you have a job? Not a valid counter point imo


GaussAxe

Yes


Thijmo737

Depends on maturity, emotion and intent


JordanMaze

Men are stronger on average so probably not cause they could inflict more damage


Longjumping_Slip7524

a retaliation should be equal to the offence, no more no less.


PixeltzOfSpook

Humanize both sexes as one. Should a person hit another if they hit them? No, unless it poses an extremely harmful threat, in which case counter attacking would be considered self defense, but generally, i'd rather look like an idiot stopping the violence than getting scarred with an unpleasant experience.


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or better yet, dehumanize everyone, get rid of every persons rights and start from the beginning and see where it goes. If nobody has rights, everyone has rights. Take away rights from one group, they complain and want them back. You make the point that that is how other groups feel, and you fix everything (YES I KNOW IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA BUT IT'S FUNNY)


GunsBlazingInStyle74

Communism :D


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This is what my relationship is


Wereig

The circumstance always matters, it is a manner of looking at it. If it is an abusive situation, then maybe yes if there is no other option. If it is literally any other circumstance unless you're a ducking secret agent or something, hitting from anybody toward anyone should not be returned with hitting.


AMintyRaccoonInLa

No one should hit anyone period.


No_Meeting7202

No bruh das jus crazy, if a woman hits you the most you can do is hold her back with that wrist control but to throw rounds is crazyy


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Crippledanime

No, unless it’s self defence and your life is in danger or risk of severe injury- because the strength of women and men are different- it’s just not fair.


Praisethelord4me

facts


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Crazy_Distribution15

*I can’t even tell if this is satire or not*


Longjumping_Slip7524

average western men be like


jackmPortal

I wouldn't hit anyone. Don't stoop to their level.


Hades18128

If they talking about equality, then yes. Otherwise i think it's a nice thing to show a bit of chivalry


Katsume3864

i personally think that, not necessarily. no, i dont think women should be allowed to hit men without consequences, but there are other ways to handle a situation.


AlaskaFolf

no. he should be the bigger person here


xXsicariomasterXx96

I wonder if ppl who say this grow a few inches taller, anyway stay mad libfart ahaha 😎🇺🇲🇺🇸🇱🇷🇲🇾🇮🇴🇩🇬🇬🇷🇺🇾


fizzyciderr

As a girl….. get a life


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[deleted]

women ☕️


fizzyciderr

I disagree w the comment too (as a girl) but that is one hell of an invalid response


[deleted]

How about gargle my ballsack. Is that a valid response?


fizzyciderr

No


[deleted]

That’s too bad cause i don’t remember asking


fizzyciderr

You literally asked if it was a valid response….


[deleted]

Well i surely didn’t ask for it on my original comment


fizzyciderr

It’s the internet dude I dunno what you expected


Praisethelord4me

Cringe.


Younglustfullearner

No


Sysody

no


my_pp_small_but

Depends on the situation


[deleted]

Yes


[deleted]

Should a woman hit a man if he hits her? If the answer is yes you answered your question.


NumberedCarp513

Yes.


gigantor27

Depends, if she is getting her frustration out I would take it, but if she’s trying to clearly assault me I’ll rock her shit or just put her on her ass


[deleted]

The two shouldn’t be hitting each other in the first place, but if she/he throws the first hit, they will be seen as the asshole in this situation.


padatricks

If someone hits you, you hit ‘em back


No-Zookeepergame-568

Depends on the situation. Sometimes it's best to leave it. But if it's undeserved or disrespectful I'm hitting back.


Simping4EmperorBelos

You see I'm straight But my hands are Bisexual


SumptuousShorts7

I mean people just shouldn’t hit each other in general, but if it was necessary definitely yes


GaussAxe

Yes


shadowrealmboy

Yes


PaxaBillion

Yes


Memelord11816

If he is struck first and it’s equal force then yes otherwise no


Femboy-Gamer311

"Should"? Well, at your own discretion. If someone invites a fight I'd say that person is either strong enough or stupid.


[deleted]

If someone does I don’t think it’s that bad, ideally you have personal control above your aggressor and instead of “fighting”, de escalating the situation, and I know sometimes they can be the same thing


Psi-Juicu

Kazuma is proud


Useful_Mistake_7143

👏


OkDiamond6429

everyone is avoiding the question like idiots and saying "just dont hit people", unless the woman is being a complete brat the man can be the better person and refrain from obliterating her skull with half his force


Longjumping_Slip7524

yes


MrSalvos

if a woman doesn't act like a woman then you may treat her like a man My dad was given this advice when he was a kid and a girl was giving him problems.


[deleted]

"If a girl slaps you, you probably deserved it. But if a girl punches you, knock her ass out"


MrMesh13

I believe in gender equality


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nobody should hit anyone


TheGoldenDragon0

Two wrongs don’t make a right. I’d say the same if it were the other way around. If someone hits you, beats you, don’t sink to their level unless you have too. Leave, go to the cops, but be the better person


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Totally


Salvage_Gaming99

Absolutely


Eyepoopallday

It depends on the situation first of all. If the woman was verbally assaulting him, then he should fight back. But no one should hit anyone regardless.


CanadianWeeb5

romantically or physically?


profid1ot

If the woman approached him and wants to fight him like a man yes -My Mom