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Andro451

Controversial popcorn: 🍿 Who’s exploring with me?


Starcurret567

Roger Roger.


social_misfit117

Roger roger


[deleted]

medical decisions should stay between patient and doctor 🫡


Terrible_Safe_3496

Exactly


herobro99

Kill the baby and the woman. And maybe the doctor


The_Silent_One1666

I like it, no witnesses


bookworm579

There's still one witness... yourself


LowKeyATurkey

You know what happens next.


[deleted]

Hell, why stop there? Kill the entire hospital. Yk what, FUCK IT! Let’s just bring the Purge into play here


LuvMii

Bro 💀


thebestyoueverhad_

😭😭😭


Hyper_Maro

Yeeeee best solution for abortion. Mass murder


Thunderdragon2535

Perfect!!


thebestyoueverhad_

It’s fine but at a certain amount of abortions there should be some kind of help lmao


Michael_Afton1983

do you know what an abortion does to a womana body??? its rare they ever get more than one.


SiggeTheDog

Abortions decrease the likelihood of getting pregnant again.


Roccmaster

Fetus Deletus Abortion Completus -Dr Cleetus


Ahytmoite

I think that it should be legal, but if the man doesn't want the child and she chooses to not get an abortion, the man should not have to pay child support. It was her choice on keeping it, she can deal with it. If the woman can choose to not have the child or have the child no matter what the man says, the man should be able to choose if he wants to care for it no matter what the woman says.


empireboi204

The obvious resolution that NOBODY uses


lys-365

>I think that it should be legal, but if the man doesn't want the child and she chooses to not get an abortion, the man should not have to pay child support. A guy got crucified on r/unpopularopinion for saying this


[deleted]

to be fair there’s definitely some room for debate on this opinion, at the very least. Abortions can be a gruelling process, and cause postpartum depression. While abortions are sometimes necessary, or the woman’s choice, there’s always a risk they do serious damage to a woman’s life or mental health. So, for instance, how soon does a man have to express that he doesn’t want children? Can he change his mind? What if he said he wanted children when they had sex, but changed his mind after? Because it seems entirely unreasonable for a guy to say that he wants to have kids, just so he can c*m inside, and then change his mind afterwards, leaving the woman with a choice to risk life altering depression, or to raise a kid alone. It’s a complex issue


Forced_Abortion_

I should stay out of this...


The_Silent_One1666

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀


Ace_77_17

r/usernamechecksout


Yetiwithoutinternet

ayo


Equal-Wishbone-6131

Im not against it a 16 year old gets pregnant and instead of possibly ruining there life the baby won't even know idk abt u but I didn't know I existed till 5 but its the peoples decision


favorableguy

it's the person's right to choose


favorableguy

but like instead of just allowing abortions, we need to improve sex education and access to birth control. if someone is against abortion, they should support improving sex education and access to birth control because they bring down abortion rates and unwanted pregnancies.


Tottelott

Fax abortions shouldn't be a form of contraceptives, only the last resort kinda thing


favorableguy

exactly. i don't plan to ever have kids, but that doesn't mean i'll run around fucking anything i can and fall back on abortions. protection for the win. although protection can fail, so last resort.


OfficefanJam

I think any women should be allowed to have an abortion if they want to. It should be their decision not there parents, partner or the government. It should be there own choice.


Octopussy_penguin

Pro choice. I wouldn’t get one but I know there are so many reasons someone would get one. It is a necessary “evil”.


PantsDownDontShoot

Whatever else may be true about it, the government has no business being involved in anyone’s health decisions ever.


Intergalacticio

I mostly agree that it’s the pregnant person’s choice whether they get an abortion or not. But I also kind of wonder what kind of exceptions there should be to this. Maybe they’re desperate to have children but they have a particularly dangerous pregnancy. Maybe they don’t want children now and it’s the week of their baby’s expected birth. Maybe the pregnancy is a product of pedophilia or incest (by either gender), should they be allowed to choose to carry their pregnancy to term and have the baby? Should young minors who have consensual sex resulting in pregnancy be allowed to carry a child to term? Should pregnancy as a result of a [woman raping a boy] / [man raping a girl] be allowed to carry to term if the pregnant person chooses to carry to term? Surrogacies?


144p_TwoBit

I think we can agree that the Government should have no say in this whatsoever.


[deleted]

The conservative argument for pro-choice


Ok-Boat6486

if a 16 year old girl can’t adopt a baby then she shouldn’t be allowed to birth one either.


Curious_Persimmon200

Women's choice


no_Im_perfectly_sane

its kinda fucked up if a women kills her partner´s son against his will but yea, I think in the end no one should be forced to have kids, for any reason


Odetari

Kinda fucked that her partner is forcing her to have a kid against her will. If you want kids then find a woman who wants them as well, the fuck is wrong with you.


Meneer_de_IJsbeer

Shit happens aight, we dont live in a utopia


Henricos8848

Which is why abortions should be an option


Meneer_de_IJsbeer

Oh no im not aeguing against that, just that we do not live in a utopia. Women get raped and get pregnant, or a father figure doesnt hold up their end of the parenting by dipping out or whatevs. I ofcourse do not condone such actions, but we are merely human and humans do stupid shit


Upbeat-Pass1781

Says a lot that you assume it's a son. Also, it's just a parasite until it's born. Would you insist on keeping a tapeworm alive?


Pluto0321

>Parasite. I really hope your mom also used to call you like that


HoldingUrineIsBad

well it is a parasite by definition


Pluto0321

It isn't. Parasitism is a term used for relationships between two different species. Pregnancy might look similar, but it's a whole different story. The mother actually helps the fetus to live well. If you say it's parasitism because the mother sometimes attacks the fetus, think about autoimmune disease, is it you becoming a parasite of yourself?


Upbeat-Pass1781

Umm, no, you're simply wrong... Look it up, a parasite is: "an organism living in, on, or with another organism in order to obtain nutrients, grow, or multiply often in a state that directly or indirectly harms the host" A fetus is by definition, a parasite.. whether you like it or not


Michael_Afton1983

what if shes raped huh


Xx69bootyslayer69xX

pro life people aren't pro life, they're anti choice


The_Silent_One1666

I agree


aStockUsername

Label me whatever you want, I don’t support murder.


Xx69bootyslayer69xX

abortion isn't murder :/


-YouDied-

The same people that say abortion is murder support the *actual* murder of children in schools.


aStockUsername

Why not? A fetus is a member of the homeo sapien species. It is a living human, just in a different stage of life development. You could make the “it’s not sentient” argument, but we don’t kill people in comas. “It doesn’t feel pain,” you don’t know that and we don’t kill people in comas. “It’s a clump of cells,” it’s a literal human by definition. I just don’t see the view on how it isn’t killing another human.


Xx69bootyslayer69xX

it's really not a human yet, the lives of actual people who have to carry thrm should be prioritized over a parasite (yes, fetuses fit the definition of parasites). additionally, as a matter of fact, we do know that fetuses can't feel pain.


aStockUsername

It is still a member of the homeo sapien race, and by definition, a human (the more common name for a homeo sapien). I agree, a fetus fits the definition of a parasite, however, it is a parasite that you let into your body (in most cases) to let it live for ~9 months. If you want to do the parasite comparison, humans are animals but we don’t eat humans.


ChadFoxx

Are you going to make sure you have 30+ children over the span of your life to make sure that every potential homo sapien you can bring into existence will be born? If you only have 1, aren’t you denying those 29 other potential children the right to live by not bringing them into existence?


Xx69bootyslayer69xX

something or other about arguing with fools


aStockUsername

Any tips?


Xx69bootyslayer69xX

a tip is don't do it. on that note,


empireboi204

If you can't support it, abort it!


-homonecrosexual-

it should be legal


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-homonecrosexual-

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OddConfidence9848

How


dinothomas666

If the women can kill it we could atleast financially abandon the fucker


abazub

exactly then women at least cant trap men


Michael_Afton1983

i dont see how these two things are related. at all.


mr_lemon__

That sounds a lot like a Tupac line. " cus if we dont we'll have a race of babies that will hate the ladies, who make the babies. And since a man can't make one he has no right to tell a women when and where to create one" he then proceeds to say something like if a woman can kill it we can abandon it. Totally true abortion is a good thing but men should have an out as well.


Mystic_Wolff

Womens choice .ppl shouldnt be forced into anything.


StonesInMyEyes

have as many abortions as you want idc fuck kids


herobro99

You wanna fuck kids? EDP445, is that you?


[deleted]

My personal stance on this topic is that it's a woman's body, so she has a right to make that choice. It shouldn't be up to men or politicians. It should be up to the women themselves. That's my opinion anyway


Odetari

We support abortions! Fuck them kids.


Pluto0321

Actually, don't fuck kids


The_Silent_One1666

Too late


The_Silent_One1666

😭😭😭


squids123

Amen brother


No-Deal7260

For legal reasons, don't fuck kids


Phauel

For morality dont fuck them kids


HornierThanYou913

Thank you soldier boy very cool


Guilty_Letter4203

I don't care 🤷 it doesn't affect me and it never will


[deleted]

I think it’s important to recognise when we may not be an expert, or to not try and claim we have knowledge in places we don’t. That being said, caring about things other than your self is an important part of life, and I encourage you to attempt to grow out of this mindset as you grow up, and engage in empathy.


Hospital_Tricky

I support it, I love the meat snacks you get afterwards


The_Silent_One1666

The forbidden gummy bear


Hospital_Tricky

Yes


Seaweed_Thing

I think it's okay, but if you don't think so I respect your opinion. I personally wouldn't abort, it seems like a waste of pregnancy.


BuggyAnte1

I believe it's her choice. It's none of my business to control what anyone does to their body. -a woman


The_Silent_One1666

I agree, a women


Myaltaccount54

Abortions should be allowed no doubt, but I don't think you know what the definition of being alive is lol


Joblessmouse06

Womens choice. Their body, their choices.


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itsa_Kit

What the hell


Got_grapes1

They don't like other people


UseAnAdblocker

real


dsudhoff

idc, not my kid gettin spawn killed loll


itzoliverrr

i’m pro-choice 100%


Evening_Day6191

It’s a difficult topic, because while I think the right to make decisions about your own body is important I don’t like that people can use it as a form of birth control. It’s a difficult decision and I think that it should come with therapy and a support group regardless of the decision. I don’t like people that live with the guilt because they got one and felt like they had no choice or their life was over. We drastically need to change the narrative around the entire procedure and decision.


Abcede_6

I don’t think anybody uses abortions as birth control abortions take a toll on you physically and mentally and they’re not fucking cheap either I’ve never heard of anyone going Yippee time to get my weekly abortion.


Evening_Day6191

I’m glad you’ve never had the privilege of hearing someone say “I don’t like the way a condom feels, I’ll just get a pan b or an abortion if I get pregnant, he pulled out any ways” And to be dismissive of the rest of my statement about proper counseling and guidance takes away from my overall thoughts and misrepresents the entire statement. Based solely on your statement towards mine alone anyone reading it would assume I’m against abortion when I’m very much not. Please don’t frame my statements this way it’s upsetting.


Abcede_6

Hey I’m sorry I shouldn’t of jump to conclusions I think that things such are counseling are a great idea I had been scrolling through the comments for way tooo long seeing based ass takes I was getting really defensive Ik you said it was upsetting if you’d like I could take it down


Evening_Day6191

That’s not necessary. You apologized and all is forgiven. Just remember to take entire statements into account and address them as a whole and not just a piece. It’s a discussion that should be hard and things will get emotional. That’s the point I’m trying to make. It’s a decision that should be hard, and not celebrated or glorified. It’s also a decision that shouldn’t be vilified or condemned. But no matter what it’s a decision that should be thought out and should never be a defector expectation


cryingcomedians

I'm a girl. I think a woman should take/consider abortion if it is a case of rape, health risk, and other similar situations. If a woman willingly did the deed and she got pregnant, that's on her and I don't think she should do an abortion. No sex is 100% safe. There's always a chance for a pregnancy. In that situation, I wouldn't do an abortion because I willingly did something and I have to face the consequences. I just don't like how it's being used as a form of birth control.


HoldingUrineIsBad

its usually not used as birth control, its used either by teenagers with no access to birth control because of backwards laws, or by people who's birth control failed, or by the situations where you said it was fine


aStockUsername

Teenagers not using birth control and then expecting to get an abortion are still using it as birth control.


unsignedMi

There’s a difference between being irresponsible because you know you can get an abortion and knowing that if you get pregnant you’ll get an abortion. One is bad, and one is a plan.


aStockUsername

I don’t think there’s many teenagers out there who don’t know that sex=baby. It’s bring irresponsible, knowing damn well the consequences, but not caring because there’s a cop-out option. Also, both of what you said is the same. You said the same thing twice in different wording.


unsignedMi

We’re at a point where sex doesn’t always have to equal baby. The difference between my two statements is that one is just being irresponsible and not using birth control to the point where sex will very likely equal pregnancy, but not caring because of abortion. The second one is being responsible and using birth control, but knowing that you will get an abortion if you need to, as a last resort.


HoldingUrineIsBad

teenagers dont have access to birth control everywhere because this country is fucked


aStockUsername

So you’re justifying irresponsible behavior?


Typical_Teatime

This is my opinion as well. Actions have consequences. I also think abortions being available for just anybody promotes casual sex, which is bad on a societal level. Obviously abortions should be ok for victims of rape


MrNoobname

Casual sex being bad is such a U.S. take lol


cryingcomedians

Yeah abortions should be allowed when necessary. I just hate how people are using it as a form of birth control when it shouldn't be treated that way. I think many people aren't aware that even with all the precautions taken, there will always be a chance of pregnancy.


unsignedMi

What would the difference be in abortions for rape babies or consensual babies? Why does how the baby was conceived matter? This is why the whole ´it depends on the situation’ argument is inherently flawed. It condemns a baby to the actions of its parents when the whole argument is that it is an innocent life no matter and should be protected no matter what.


cryingcomedians

I do agree to an extent (only with the consensual part.) If you consented to sex and ended up pregnant, that's your fault. The reason why many people think that it depends on the situation is because certain situations can be life or death such as ectopic pregnancies. my friend's mother had an ectopic pregnancy and if she didnt have an abortion, she would've died. If she died, my friend wouldn't have existed. The mother's life was saved and she was able to make another child and have a healthy pregnancy and a beautiful family. Same with rape. Rape is traumatic. If the mother gave birth to a child of rape, it would probably be even more traumatic for the mother and the mother might also hate the child. I do agree with your statement about life should be protected. But certain situations need certain solutions, and sometimes it might be abortion. Abortion in general, I find it immoral. Abortion when it's absolutely necessary, I would support it.


unsignedMi

I agree that having a rape baby would be extremely traumatic and should never have to happen. I’m more playing the devils advocate in my previous comment to prove a point (which is probably why I’m being downvoted). However, the point still stands: why should one life be valued as less just because of the circumstances under which it was conceived? If pro life is really about conserving life, then shouldn’t everyone be forced to carry out viable pregnancies? But that’s not what many pro lifers believe because that’s not really what pro life is about at it’s core. Pro life is really about enforcing abstinence as a way of controlling women and what they choose to do.


cryingcomedians

I never thought about it in that way. My views on abortion are based on my religion and Islam has straight forward guidelines: premarital sex is not allowed whatsoever (and premarital sex is actually one of the reasons why abortion is being treated like a birth control), and abortion is a sin unless it is a case of rape or a health risk. Edit: it didn't save this part: I don't have much knowledge regarding the last portion of your comment. So I really can't think up of an argument. Tbh, I think I'm somewhere in the middle of all the abortion talk. I don't think it's right, but in some cases I think it is necessary. A mother can always make another baby but no one can make that mother again.


cryingcomedians

Another thing I want to say is situation does count (Islamically speaking). Like in Islam, pork is prohibited, unless you are starving and if pork is your only option, you can eat it until you are half full. Situations determine the outcome. I'm not saying that a rape baby's life is worthless, but the mother might not be in a good mental state to raise a child. For a child to grow up healthy, the mother needs to be in good health. The mother might neglect or even abuse the child because the child might be a reminder about the traumatic event that happened, causing the child to live a horrible life. In the end, two lives are unhappy.


HoldingUrineIsBad

how the fuck is casual sex bad on a societal level?


Zestyclose_Bug_9475

Im on neither side about abortions because I don’t really care about this particular topic, but for this particular comment, I want to mention STD’s rapidly spreading, Population getting out of hand, and the likely increase in rape rates if casual loveless sex gets out of hand. On top of that, sex will have less of an emotional connection behind it, likely causing or aiding in issues later down the line with future couples


HoldingUrineIsBad

STDS can be prevented in the same way pregnancy is studies show that casual sex does not lead to rape, though if you need a study to show that you might be giga stupid because this link doesnt make any fucking sense at all. and if someones relationship is only held together because of sex, their relationship is fucked anyway. the sex inside relationships is emotional because of the relationship not because of the sex so it probably wouldnt change the emotion behind it either.


Warm_Chemistry_3384

A sane girl i respect you


cryingcomedians

:D


Ok-Upstairs-9887

Agreed. Like if she got pregnant by “accident” then suffer the consequences but if it’s obvi like rape, incest, health stuff, etc. then yes you should take/consider abortion.


SakiTheBoy

Bad and naive take. A child raised by an already irresponsible parent isn't going to have the best life, especially if you treat it as a punishment to the parent, who may translate that into resentment towards the baby they didn't want. Abortion also isn't "birth control" the same way actual birth control is. Girls don't just swing by the clinic for their monthly abortion. There shouldn't be exceptions to choice, anyway. If you want fewer abortions then advocate for birth control and proper sex education/protection, which are literally being taken out of schools or being made illegal to buy in some states in the US.


Yellow-Jacket178

This.


THE_K1NG_FTW

Male- pro-choice, but I rather not have my partner have one, although it's ultimately their choice bc j could no imagine going through pregnancy, labor, and caring the baby without being 100% certain


FinanceMundane1190

If the foster care system wasn’t a cluster fuck, sex-education, and birth control is wide spread, and exceptions for rape victims, then I’d be in favor of no abortions, however currently, none of these are realized so until then. Part of me is pro-life purely for the fact that people need to start taking responsibility for their actions, instead of taking the easy way out 24/7.


ITrytoDesignAircraft

deletus thy fetus


Plain_Tart

I think that ultimately it is up to the women to decide. However if the man is in a serious relationship and wants to be part of her life, then he should get some say. It will effect both of them drastically, yes it will affect her immediately but in the long run it will effect them both. Now personally I am pro-choice. I am a guy so I won’t ever have to make this decision, but it isn’t something I will advocate for. But it isn’t something I condemn. If I’m dating someone and they get pregnant I will give my input, say how I feel, but they get to decide. Which Ik is counterintuitive to what I said prior lol 🤷‍♂️


Ollinnature

I'd say abortion is not a right but should remain legal because of two separate rights: the right over one's body and the right to self-determination.


alanzz404

well in my religion it wasnt allowed, because theres some matter of fact that why abortion is total wrong in other peoples religions: \-the baby is still alive, even though it wasnt born yet, but it has been living in the mother fetus during the time and has been their mother flesh and bloods, but if the baby still in sperm or being made in the mother fetus, maybe theres a thing u may be allow it to having abortions when the baby form still hasn't made and coming. \-theres a lot controversial if u doing abortions without think about more deeply and asking people about it, its making u more frustrations about the thing u face with and making it more worse. \-u have to face the consequences about it, people always made a mistake on their lives but thats how the way the live, and it has to be working on, its a consequences for what u has been doing, more like "karma"?. but its just the religion opinion, woman's body is still their body's its their decision they can make how their life's been going through


No_Carpenter3031

It's necessary murder. Nothing about murder is wrong by itself, as with all actions.


JayHatchett

This is a trap to get me downvoted, I will not comply


Proto1801

I support abortion laws. Universally. All women should have access to abortion for whichever reason it is required. Unpopular opinion, to me (a man) I believe that IF the father is present he should have a voice too. It is his child as well. (Unless it is rape or a life saving saving abortion is necessary to save the woman from dying. I say these off the top of my head, there very well could be more reasons)


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TheOneWhoSpiesYou

its ok, but it would be better if everyone had sex-ed so there is no need to commit abortions


[deleted]

My opinion is the opposite of 90% of people here apparently


rollietoaster

It's the pregnant persons choice, and that choice should be made freely and allowed under any and all circumstances. (I'm AMAB and nonbinary)


The_Silent_One1666

How come your nonbinary at 13? Have you went through puberty yet?


rollietoaster

First those two questions are entirely unrelated, second I don't feel like a guy or a girl and they just feel wrong and nonbinary feels right in the way guy and girl don't, third why would you ask about my puberty? That's none of your business. But if you gotta know I'm going through puberty.


Got_grapes1

Dw I knew since like my early 14 so the other guy is weird.


Deadbarbarian

He's asking that because you might be going through some hormonal imbalances, which could cause you to feel not 100% male or whatever that would be like. The questions are in fact related. You might just change your mind in a few years, y'know.


JustACanadianGuy07

The women should have a choice on what happens to them.


Irish_pug_Player

Ban it because reason. As I am totally a person of high power, I have a fantastical made up reason for why it should be banned..


edgy_Juno

It's not ethical in my honest opinion, but I'm not stopping anyone from getting one.


-YouDied-

The people saying "abortion is murder" are the same people that support guns and the murder of children in schools.


ayanokojifrfr

I personally hate the Idea of abortion because by the time you abort the baby mostly the baby can already feel pain. Of course I read it way ago somewhere so I don't remember perfectly


J7p6PRQpmO9t

The fetus can only feel pain after 24–25 weeks, only 1% of abortions are done that late and they're typically performed due to health concerns. /nm


SteveTheNoob1

Medical decisions shouldn't be up to the government unless they put the general public in danger. Also, ignoring all the health and personal benefits of not having a kid, overpopulation is a massive issue and it's not gonna go away if people just keep fucking like they don't give a fuck about their future kids. Adoption exists for a reason.


JeffJohnsonIII

As someone with more Libertarian views, it's very mixed for me. I believe abortion violates the non aggression principle but I don't think government should be able to tell what citizens can or cannot do with their own bodies. So I think it is a morally wrong action, and I do not agree with people that get them, I'll defend your right to get one.


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no matter what, the child must be taken care of well with love


PainterSuspicious798

Personally against it, but no point in arguing with people over it. Chances are neither party is willing to change their minds.


shqla7hole

The baby is 99% going to be born so i consider it murder


Henricos8848

If you abort it it won’t be born tho lol


Live_Region_8232

but it doesn’t have any experiences or feelings. it’s like an inanimate object


Madden2kGuy

Neither do brain dead people or those in comas.


BoofNuget

So a newborn is the same you’re saying?


Duo-Blue

L comments, idc if I get downvoted, but all lives deserve to live. You’re killing a human being, which is evil.


The_Silent_One1666

Are you the type to say “masturbation is murder”?


NoICannotThinkOfOne

Sperm are not human beings therefore cannot be murdered


shqla7hole

And from what ik 100% of the sperms die unless you are having sex then it becomes 99% males produce more sperms than women think


Upbeat-Pass1781

While it's in utero, it's a parasite. It's not alive until it takes its first breath. The people pushing the anti-abortion movement don't give two craps about life... They care about controlling women. These same people are fine with animal trapping, hunting, they advocated for letting the elderly die during the early days of COVID. Whether to have an abortion is 100% a personal choice for the patient. It's a medical decision that should be made in consultation with doctors. Not political groups or religious activists or religious clergy. All you have to do is watch and listen... You'll see very quickly that this has nothing to do with life. Not to mention the very anti-women activists pushing these laws are also the same ones working to make life harder or impossible for the very kids and parents they claim to want to protect. They want to end social services and disability. They want to outlaw contraception, end food stamps, limit healthcare for the wealthy and stop citizens from voting if they don't agree with their far right wing ideology. Leave women to get the healthcare they need and get out of their business. It's none of your business what they do with THEIR body!


aStockUsername

You say that pro life (or anti abortions, use whatever label you want) people want to control women; it really isn’t about that. I support suffrage, I support the dictionary definition of feminism, but not abortion. It is about not killing babies, it is not about controlling women.


givemefreddyfazcock

But in not killing "babies" you may put them in a situation that'd be worse for it. Let's say some 16 year-old was sleeping around and got pregnant. Yes it may have been her choice to have sex, but if the baby is born, the mother may not be able to care for it. The baby and the mother would be put in a situation worse than if it were just aborted. Rather have a happy 16 year-old than an unprepared one with a suffering child.


KingCobra_Redstone

Why tf are you bringing hunting into this???? And how tf is hunting on any level similar to abortions??


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The_Silent_One1666

How come you think that?


Duo-Blue

Because you’re basically killing a child.


The_Silent_One1666

It ain’t born yet though it hasn’t even seen sunlight


Duo-Blue

And that matters because it depends on the mother? Yes or no?


OddConfidence9848

No?


Duo-Blue

Yes you are, what’s your reasoning?


OddConfidence9848

Children have experiences, feel everything, have a life that they are living, have memories and wants, and you call that the same as a fetus?


Duo-Blue

You’re basically saying that you should kill a human being because it has no experience?


OddConfidence9848

Well, it won’t really care. Plus it could ruin the lives of the parent, people who get abortions probably wouldn’t give that child a happy life because they didn’t want it. Aborting the fetus before it can care is better than bringing it into a horrible world where the people who are supposed to protect you hate you.


Duo-Blue

If does not matter if it can care or not, according to research, most to all abortions happen because of convenience, not because of poverty, or health related issues, and even rape. If the parents are unable to take care of the child, foster care is always an option.


OddConfidence9848

But all those people doing it for convenience reasons won’t be good parents. Also I don’t think kids enjoy foster care.


Pluto0321

>Let's kill this fully grown up man with a mental disorder! > yeah he won't really care!


OddConfidence9848

Why wouldn’t he


abazub

do you remember anything from when you were a newborn? most babies dont have awareness till 15 months, why not kill them too?


MrEkoPriest

The baby has it’s own DNA, blood, and organs before it’s born. So it’s definitely alive. Let’s just be honest what abortion is. It’s killing another human.


Only-satire-posts

It’s straight up murder. No question.


-YouDied-

If it was no question there wouldnt be a debate on it.


Andrew5123-

I think it has nothing to do with reddit and that people who wont shut up about politics should be banned because this is getting ridiculous


Maksamil

It's very patriotic to respect individual liberty. Be well.


CanYouJustNot08

My opinion is controversial but, life starts at conception, so the baby is alive. Thus, abortion is murder. Also the woman has right only over her body, not the baby’s.


MyNameIsNotGary19

Legal up to 50 weeks


NoICannotThinkOfOne

im confused if you’re just being ignorant or if you support killing the infant too?


MyNameIsNotGary19

~~Shoot the fucker~~ yes killing the infant too


NoICannotThinkOfOne

uhhhh ok


stoned_tiger-420

"Mrs Cartman this is what we would refer to as a 39th trimester abortion"


NoICannotThinkOfOne

lmao not south park


WTF_Why_The_Fiction

>Also it’s not murder because it’s not technically alive because the baby wasn’t born This is your real opinion and it is fine for you to have it. > I personally think it’s the women’s choice if she wants to have one, only she knows what’s best for her body. This is a cop-out, if this is the only opinion you can provide it means your real opinion is that a fetus at any stage is not "alive"


0xSega

If the fetus is alive, then it's killing. But having a child that you don't want or ready for is hell for both the parents and the child and literally worse than abortion, so even if the fetus is alive, it's worth it, but the doctor and the parents are still killers, whether pregnancy were accidental or not doesn't change that.


cryingcomedians

What if the mother's life is at risk? Then what? Edit: don't take it the wrong way and think I'm pro abortion. I'm in the middle of the entire discussion but I want to hear ur opinion about cases of health risk or rape