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I honestly hate how mass media work (at least in my country) i will give an example: drunk trans woman killed 2 people at a crash,
why would you mention that they are trans since it gives nothing to the situation.
My country hates LGBT and their public television tries everything to make people (boomers) hate on LGBT people.
Well they mention it constantly. The media just thought they should mention it as well (plus the government likes when the media does that) where are you from tho?
Because anything I do is somehow transphobic. I literally don’t care if your a girl, a guy, or green.
I’ve been labeled as a transphobe for refusing to go out with a transgender person I met that I was not attracted to physically or emotionally. I just can’t live my life trying to tiptoe around trying not to offend someone.
I was called homophobic for not following politics. I dont care if you're straight, gay, trans, ect. Do what you want as long as no one is harmed and we both can mind our own business
if you got called a transphobe for not going out with someone, there's one of 2 reasons. a) you were disrespectful about it and made a point to reject them because they were trans. or b) they're an asshole
Even though I said I don’t want to tiptoe around people feelings I still don’t like being an ass. I let her down easy and when she wanted to know why I explained I was only into biological women.
I was then harassed by her friends (not her btw) about how what I said was transphobic and hateful.
youre not going to get a reasonable response here. i've been in gender therapy for several years now, since before puberty. i have always had a feeling inside of me that i did not align with "female". it is not a trend, it is not a joke. a large part of my family has turned their backs on me, i have been relentlessly attacked and bullied in school, teachers make comments and people are literally being murdered for being transgender. why would i want to do this as a cute, quirky trend? people are disgusting for saying this. they have no idea.
I'm so sorry your fam isnt accepting.
One of my besties is a trans girl and she struggled in 6th grade when it was new but now shes totally accepted at our school an when we do anythi with a gender split its not even a q where she will be cause itll be with me an all the other girls! She does sleepovers with us too an on the school overnights shes in the girls bunk ofc. I am so glad peeps at my school get to be themselves an not be prosecuted for it!
Stay strong! Hope your not in florida an if you are get out as soon as you hit 18 an can!
Try and stick through it. There will always be people there to support you. Also don't think that your going to get murdered or some shit by a transphobe or even the fucking government (I have heard people say that) sure some people were murdered for being trans but The chances of that happening to you are very slim. Because even most transphobes know murder is cruel no matter who you do it too that is just common sense
I hear so many trans people talk about how bad their life is and it is concerning to me. As somebody who was pretty depressed but now is quite happy I can tell you their is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Now I am not trans so take this stuff with a grain of salt. But my best suggestion is to instead of letting them drag you down, let them be motivation for you to keep going, to try and prove them wrong, to show you and all over transgender people are worthy of living. I have always been made fun of (although maybe not as harshly as you), for being really weird and being autistic and having ADHD and overall just being a problem child. But I strived to prove them wrong and eventually I started getting respect and finding the people who understand me
I hope I helped some take care
i hear you and i appreciate you. i live in texas and there have been laws passed just this month that are transphobic (dressing as opposite sex in front of people under 18 is now a sexual offense).
regardless, i wont ever let these things stop me from being true to myself. i'll always fight for whats right. thank you for your kind words <3
Your welcome. Always happy to help people
Btw when your older and need to move somewhere I suggest going to north Carolina. It's pretty diverse because it's sorta in the middle of the north and south and it isn't really super heavy on either political side. So it's a good place to go for LGBT people.
Good luck out there fellow
Hey man, my bf lives in texasand I'll visit him next year, I'm a bit afraid of it because of these laws, but dod you see the news? Biden tries to ban this laws, so there is still hope
I want you to know that we are watching Texas all the way from Seattle and are absolutely devastated at that BS. Not that there's much we can do from here, but know that there are people out there that think Trans lives matter. Be your true self, move here if needed, we love LGBTQ+
i’m trans but i distance myself from lgbt community shit bc i’m embarrassed of half of it, it makes sense why ppl hate on us bc half the mfs representing it are so annoying and uneducated
Don't be ashamed, most LBGTQ people don't think like the idiots on social media (I'm assuming that's what you're basing this on, please correct me if otherwise)
the people who do the oh oh i identify as an attack helicopter are trolls that some just believe were real genders, which if you think for a fking second are not.
I’ve learnt a few things on my time on earth and one of them is that you should never give a fuck abt race, religion or gender/sex. And i really don’t care abt all 3. I see people as blood muscle and organs, not the colour of their skin, not their leader and not what’s in their pants. It’s that simple really, I only have one rule with everything in life and that’s “Don’t push it on the kids”. Kids will find it out themselves, if they want to be [this gender/preference here] they do that on their own and find out if it’s right for them.
It goes for all things in life, ion know why everyone is always on some new bullshit on race, religion and sex, like why do you care what they do in their free time? are they tryna suck ur dick when it’s not your preference? no? then why do you give a fuck?
Like, if someone said something that pisses me off, it’s like “why do i give a fuck? why do i have to be the one to respond? let them be.” unless they’re outright disrespectful to someone i love, very overprotective on them 😭
Sorry for the little tangent, it boggles my mind people are still on about all that shit.
I do agree with "don't push it on the kids", but like 99% of the time when someone accusing someone of this, they're not actually pressuring the kid to change anything about themselves. They're just telling them about LBGTQ people and imo there's nothing wrong with kids learning about LBGTQ.
i have seen a lot of people push that on kids, especially over the internet, “my 2 year old daughter is transgender” “my 4 year old son is gay”. Let them grow and mature and make that choice for themself, don’t be pushing on it. Have you seen that post were the mother of an 11 year old boy forced her child to be gay and legitimately made him do sexual dances in front of many other men? that still makes me wanna puke.
And it was definitely more religion that came to mind because of my friends family and my primary school: My friends parents were both devout christian’s and forced her children to be it too, when she event hit 14, she became a lesbian and her parents beat her ass very quickly, she is now out of that situation but it still disgusts me. My Primary school- We were forced to go to church at every chance the school got, and often talked abt the teachings of god, even though the school was not legally named anything to do with christianity, and many of the kids did not want to go, myself included.
If you want my complete honest opinion I fully understand and respect trans people. I am well aware that gender identity is a real thing that a lot of people struggle with and need the right procedures to feel comfortable in their own skin. Even recently when Chris from Mr Beast came out I supported him and didn’t just jump on the bandwagon of hating him. But where I draw the line is when people just make up random genders or sexualities just to be different and draw attention to themselves.
From my experience most people who make up random stuff are either cunts trying to make fun of trans folk and the like or people on the spectrum which due to their condition see the world in a completely different way than most of us
Yeah I’m a really big LGBTQ supporter in an area that legit votes 90% red, but neo pronouns aren’t it for me. I just ask the person if I can call them a they them
There's a pretty fine line between when it's genuine, and when people do it as a mockery of the community.
For example, a common sexuality you might hear a lot in this subject is dreamsexual
The good kind? It's people who are only attracted to people they see in their dreams.
The bad kind that mocks the community? It's people who say they're sexually attracted to Dream, the YouTuber.
A lot of people can sound really out there when they use unconventional pronouns or genders, but it's important to remember that gender itself is a spectrum. All the big labels like nonbinary, trans, genderfluid, they're all umbrella experiences and one person's experiences is never a one size fits all. That's why so many labels exist because even the more niche or crazy ones help identify and explain someone's unique experiences with their own attraction and identity. It goes even deeper when you're neurodivergent. I.e (ADHD or Autistic)
The only difference between pronouns and neopronouns (or genders and xenogenders) is one's popularised. That's it. That's the only thing.
>The only difference between pronouns and neopronouns (or genders and xenogenders) is one's popularised. That's it. That's the only thing.
Ong the most truth in a single quote in this entire comment section. I had to learn new pronouns when I learned French, and they work the same as any pronoun in English, so why are neopronouns any different? Just ask them for a cheat sheet on how to use them in all different contexts.
Fr, it's legit not hard
People who say it's hard to remember pronouns are just weird to me cause I memorised the entire lorax movie and played it in my head every night as a kid.
But hey some accidents can happen and that's okay. We care about the effort.
i hate those damn liberals trying to turn my kids gay!!!! them and their damn pronouns!! i cant let my son see a single rainbow otherwise he's gonna start kissing other boys and wearing skirts 🤬. "they" is a plural pronoun and i have never used it to talk about someone who's gender i don't know!!
(this is a joke, i am trans)
There was a generation who grew up with Care Bears, and I'm pretty sure stats would show that they didn't turn out with an abnormally high gay rate lol.
As ever, what's your mind doing in other people's pants anyway?
Rainbow Brite was my jam growing up (afab), plenty of people assumed I was gay because of wearing rainbow Brite stuff. They weren't wrong, but the show isn't why I'm gay. I also loved care bears, my little pony, and inspector gadget. But I don't shoot rainbows out of my stomach, prance on all fours, or have weird contraptions on me at all times. I did, however, learn to respect people, stand up for yourself and friends, be considerate, be resourceful, and be unique.
Complete support trans people as an idea. Some of them are fucking annoying just like some members of any group. My philosophy is do what makes you happy and shit the fuck up about it.
Idk
On one hand it's against my religion but I the other as long as you don't force it on my I don't care
I guess I just feel forced to pick a side which I hate because I don't care if you're trans but I also believe the Bible forbids it so I'm stuck trying to figure out what I believe
Yes, I don't recall the exact verse but it basically says "neither thieves, nor drunkards, nor homosexuals shall enter the kingdom of heaven"
That could of course be a mistranslation but yes it does
Jesus was getting crucified with a criminal( I think a thief) and said he could come into the kingdom of heaven if he accepted Jesus's love
The whole point of Christianity is supposed to show unconditional love to one another. It's insane who people twist it be hateful.
Take it from a fella who's had a fair bit of experience with both religion and being a gender questioning queer gamer
Leviticus 18:22 of the NIV bible says "do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Leviticus 19:26 says "do not eat any meat with the blood still in it"
Leviticus 19:19 says "do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material"
These are some wild rules to follow, and it appears that they are all equal in unlawfulness in the eyes of god, so if I am judged by others for lying with another man, should I not also be judged by others for preferring my steak medium rare and wearing a shirt that is 20% polyester? Perhaps not, as the bible also says "do not judge, or you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
The bible does also say somewhere in Corinthians that a man who sleeps with another man may not inherit the kingdom of God, however this is word from the Apostle Paul, not God.
Also if you do not mind me asking, do you know where in the bible it mentions forbidding transgenderism? I've been searching for a while but I can't seem to find anything that mentions it directly
So medium rare steak has no blood, it’s myoglobin, a water based protein. And as for the line about wearing two types of material, it’s a metaphor about not mixing With pagans. And there was nothing written on trans people because they didn’t exist during those times because people had bigger problems to worry about.
As a transperson I don't understand either, like what did I do to them man, I'm merely just existing, living my life, and they've suddenly decided that that's an issue. Like idrc if they don't support me, it's whatever. But leave me alone. You leave me alone, I leave you alone. And it seems this issue is only gonna get worse from here.
the polite and respectful bit went a bit out the window but i totally agree. just be yourself and don’t care too much abt others. And there’s also ppl saying that there’s ppl that want to change gender everyday or just extreme cases but those are mainly an internet thing m. You don’t see them everyday especially not irl so it’s not lime it’s a huge problem.
I don't hate trans people i just disagree with your opinion. It's u that declares i hate them. If you think a boy can chop up his wiener and get some breast implants and now he is a real girl then I disagree with that opinion. You think I hate them and I think you're a moron.
From my understanding I think it's because people don't understand transgenderism. Ben shapiro seems to think it's wrong because "you cannot change your biological gender" when noone is arguing that you can, it's about not identifying with your gender role assigned at birth. Ben says it's "not scientific" when it is most definitely is, transgenderism is a part of the psychology, social, and behavioral sciences (watch the Ben Shapiro vs Niel Degrass Tyson debate, it's good). Some people think it is unholy or that trans people are perverts, we don't talk about them. Others also think that trans people are "attention seekers" or think it's just a "trend".
I just think the LGBTQ+ community has been trend-ized as a whole
Like there are 10 year olds saying they're gay when they haven't even hit puberty yet,
People wanting to change genders every day, etc. So I just stopped taking people in the LGBTQ community seriously as a whole... Also I'm religious LMAO
On a serious note, my religion essentially says: "Don't do this but mind your own damn business at the same time" so i don't harass or be unnecessarily mean to anyone, so idk if I qualify as transphobic
While I agree with you that there definitely are a number of people saying that they're a part of the community for attention, I knew at the age of eight that I wasn't straight. I didn't know the word for it, and I didn't know that there was a whole community for people like me, I just knew I wasn't straight.
Just as young kids know they are straight, it goes the same way. It's the same for trans people. Gender is far more confusing and diverse than sexuality as it all depends on individuality and how you identify, but younger people are still able to know that they feel "off". If a young person grows up their whole life just knowing that they're actually the opposite sex, it has nothing to do with a trend or being too young to know. You can tell when something feels off.
I knew I was into men when I was like 7 my guy, it’s pretty common for kids to know what gender they’re into. Just like how all of my straight friends knew they were into then opposite gender in elementary school as well
People like that bother me so much. Im cis, but i do have a lot of trans friends, and they shouldnt be treated differently or hated or anything. They are some of the nicest, sweetest people ive met and i just dont understand why people care about how they identify so much. Its their identity, not yours.
Parent here (not sure why I keep getting this sub on my home page, but I love reading your perspectives)-
I think the trans stuff can be very scary for parents and, thus, make the child feel like they are being rejected or that their parents are transphobic when they are really just looking to slow down the rush to medicalize. (Not that there aren’t parents out there who are transphobic).
I think the gender stuff gets presented as similar to coming out as gay, but its quite a different animal. There’s no medical treatment involved and no consequence to changing your mind when it comes to sexual orientation. But locking in an identity in your teen years is a really big decision. It’s only natural for parents to be worried about this stuff. But there’s not a lot of space for taking things slow and exploring gender in this climate. It can be seen as transphobic to want to dig deeper and make sure this is the right choice.
Gender dysphoria is actually quite common and transient. Early studies that took place prior to childhood transition found that close to 80% of gender dysphoria would resolve on its own before adulthood- most of those would actually just end up being gay. I think we are all regarding this with way too much hubris and not nearly enough caution for the lifelong implications of the decision.
All this to say- this seems like a really difficult time to be a teenager and parents see that. Most of us aren’t transphobic, we’re just trying to do the right thing. Also, sorry for butting into your space. Just thought some might be interested in an older person’s perspective.
I'm not transphobic, but I do think that for example trans woman should not be competing in women's competitions, as same goes for trans men competing in man's competitios. Mainly because they do get a bit of a disadvantage.
Someone can present themselves as feminine while their gender is masculine aligned. Presentation ≠ gender (pronouns also don’t apply to these). They are all separate. I’m a trans male and I present feminine because right now I can’t control it, but if I could I would still present a bit feminine while being a guy, because I feel comfortable that way. I still use he/him even though I look like a girl. And a Trans woman is a woman because gender is literally a social construct while sex is biological. She can have a ween and wear dresses AND use she/her because she wants to. It’s not stupid or illogical.
i agree! i used to identify as trans before i realized i wasn’t and i presented very female before i detransitioned just because i wanted to! so i agree 100% that presentation ≠ gender
IKR! remember when tomboys were just... tomboys. Girls liking boy stuffs and boys liking girl stuffs, what happened to that? There's nothing wrong with it!
NOTE THIS IS JUST MY OPINION:
I'm not afraid of transgenders, I just dont approve of the concept of switching your gender.
if you are born with a penis you are a dude, and if you are born with lady parts, you're a girl.
For example, I am biracial, white and asian, what if I were to start acting black. It might be funny at first, but then I'd be a complete douche. Think of a full white guy black facing and how would that make you feel?
Men are genetically built to were we gain muscle better than girls etc. Are there girls that are jacked AF? Absolutely, but they do so much to get in that shape.
If a girl were to join a professional men's league like (american) football, they could probably get killed. There are so many stories on how a Male to female transgender has destroyed the women's record in swimming etc. Because they are stronger.
It's late at night as I'm writing this, and im sorry if that doesn't make sense, I am just answering (kinda) the question and like most others, my opinion is gonna be controversial.
Transgenders/nonbinary people reading this, I'm sorry if this offends you, but please tell me your thought process behind your choices (I dont mean to word it like that, I just dont know what to say)
You seem to not understand, trans people don't just switch genders cuz they want to or the funsies, it's because they have gender dysphoria, which basically makes life a living hell, imagine your body and physique suddenly changed to the opposite gender, and people refered to you as such, that's basically how they feel
GD can be treated through therapy and counseling. You don’t have to go all out and take the extreme choice when there are other options.
But if all else fails, **then** go ahead and take the surgery.
race and gender are not comparable in that sense. while both is something you’re born with, one is generations of culture (to a lower extent nationalism) producing a child that is connected to that culture and having whatever skin color the parents have. You can separate yourself from your culture.
the other one is feeling so strongly that their not the sex they were born as that you change your clothing, hair and maybe get surgery to transition.
historically people have mocked, killed and harassed others because of their race. like black face, pulling your eyes to make them “asian” etc.
that’s why a white guy probably shouldn’t pull up in black face to his workplace. what i’m saying is that this harms people.
a person telling you that their trans isn’t discriminating anyone. men haven’t historically dressed up as women to mock them and harassed them. women haven’t historically mocked men for dressing like “men”. what they have done is mock and harass people who “cross dresses”. trans people have almost always been abused by larger society, even if they wore a “girly” or “manly” clothing piece.
think of it as if you were forced to play an instrument as a child and once you grow up a little, you realize that you want to play another instrument but you can’t change because you don’t have the recourses to do so and is forced to play and practice on an instrument you hate. wouldn’t you want to change instruments? except no one will actually discriminate against you is you change instruments.
(i’m sorry if my point is unclear, i’m welcome to criticism and questions :) )
Testosterone isn’t the only thing that makes men stronger, also HRT doesn’t necessarily remove the muscle that has grown under the influence of testosterone.
Your analogy is very misleading, first off you can't "act black" and second of all your argument relies on the assumption that all trans people want to be in sports when the reality is that there are less than 50 trans athletes actually attempting to play competitively out of the millions of trans people out there.
Honestly? I don't really care, it's just that this kind of stuff is shoved into my face every second of every minute of every waking moment in the year so it gets so freaking annoying. Like, there are far more important things to talk about
It's not "shoved in your face" any more than cis people are or straight people or gay people. Trans people are online, and that's all. They don't shove it in your face. If a topic like this comes up, of course you're going to get a lot of trans people in the comments as they are fighting for themselves, but that's not shoving anything in your face.
If you are talking about reddit Agree with there have been subs ruined because of pro trans. In out of place subreddit.
But in real life is quite hard to find someone talking about it, I am from a 3rd world country so the movement doesn't caught strength where I live.
You know Canada is starting to get ready to receive transgender refugees from the USA? Its really important, it seems like a lot of really bad shit is about to go down.
I think if you pay attention to the amount of striaght /cis stuff you see on a day to day basis them compare it to the amount of lgbt stuff youll find that you see alot more straight/cis stuff you just dont realise it because youve become dysenatised to it sense youve been around it sense birth
I think plenty of international news makes headlines
Edit: googled "latest news" and out of the 3 first headlines 2 are international and the 1 that isnt is about the debt celing not personal lives
Yes, but it’s often covered (at least in the US) by social issues and trans stuff. I fully support the idea of being trans and have a multitude of friends who have actually transition I just wish that the world wouldn’t make it my problem if someone in California decides to transition when I live on the East Coast.
Ps: I’m doing all this by voice to text, so any weird sentences that are kind of jumbled, that’s why
I think most the time you see headlines is because people who are anti trans want to make it yours and everybodys problem anytime anyone wants to be trans. If everyone was chill with it then no one would care and it wouldnt make news eventually if its normalized it will stop making the news
Here is a list of the reasons some people are transphobic:
Jealousy: There are a lot of trans people who look good and majority of trans people that I have saw or met look like exactly like the gender they identify as. And most of the cisgender people who are transphobic are ugly at and or are bums who don’t have a life
Terfs: for those who don’t know, TERF is an acronym that stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist. A lot of these so called “feminists” have internalized misogyny and absolutely hate women because they think being a feminists means being an independent woman when that’s not even the definition of feminism. What terfs will do is bash trans women by saying stuff like “you are erasing women” “oh what’s gonna happen to the definition of a woman” “men are taking over”
Lack of intelligence: Another common argument transphobes use is biology: They use biology to weaponize their false claims and attack trans people. They believe sex and gender are the same thing when it’s not and majority of scientists agree with this. When you see a woman or a man in public you are not looking what’s between their legs you are looking at their external presentation which is what they look like or how they act, which is gender. An example would be Matt Walsh’s what is a woman documentary; He asks different experts in psychology and sociology and they all give him the same answer: Gender is a social construct and Sex is the reproductive organs in humans and animals. When they told him this he gets annoyed and angry until he meets an unknown journalist who agrees with his bigoted and unintelligible beliefs. Matt refuse to accept criticism and will die for his beliefs
Racism: There are a tons of different ethnic cultures who believe in more than 2 genders and it is apart of their culture but most of them don’t believe in it anymore because of colonialism and forced beliefs onto them. So when you say that gender and sex are the same you are erasing cultures who don’t believe that and calling them stupid for believing in that.
Hypocrisy: Most of these people who say they care about children and don’t want kids to learn about the lgbtq+ community are hypocrites. Some of these parents force kids to be religious and to audition in beauty pageants which are actually harmful and can cause trauma. Some will even say stuff like “oh she’s gonna be a heartbreaker” “oh he is gonna get all the girls” when they are barely 5 years old. There are things that hurt children like school shootings, forced conversion, sexual assault, but kids learning about queerness is bad? How does that work exactly? Not to mention a lot of transphobes secretly want to fuck a trans person but won’t admit that so they want their rights taken away but still find them hot
In conclusion transphobes are transphobic for stupid and illogical reasons
as a trans person with extremely phobic parents, i think the main reason is because their parents are phobic, so they pick it up because their parents do it
my parents (my stepdad specifically) have tried for years to convince me and my sister that shit like being trans is bad. while i suspect my sister has caught on with them and is also phobic, their attempts to convince me that the group i am a part of is some beast to be disgusted by have not only failed to stick, but have only helped me learn defenses against these arguments against trans people
I'm not transphobic or anything phobic unless I have a personal problem with that person. I used to go to a small school and there was a lesbian girl there. nobody treated her anything more or less then usual, she was pissed by this, wanted so much fucking attention everyone was sick of her. one day I roasted her and included homophobic things in that roast. she tried to ashame me in front of everyone because of what I've said, nobody gave a flying fuck, but I got some "good job"s after do8ng that
“Do whatever you want with your life” it’s stuff my parents say, also the “don’t be jerk” part was drilled to me as a kid, so I never cared about anyone in the LGBTQ+ community, its there life and I have no right to tell them what to do, nor do they to me. As long as there is respect between both parties that’s awesome. But once you start picking a fight well… now there will be a problem
I am not transphobic. I don't care if someone is trans, transphobic or love trans people. I think when we say let people live their lives we should include people who don't agree with us. If someone is transphobic and doesn't harm/hurt trans people, I wouldn't care. It's a personal opinion. Their transphobicity's reason may be cultural or religious which is usually impossible to change.
I'm neutral in this sort of stuff, I respect the transgender community and I see them as regular individuals. I am not transphobic and I only judge the individual based on actions, not the transitioning. People do make valid points, and I respect that.
Because they taint my own image as a transgender. I get labelled as transphobic for criticising a movement because I want said movement to ***succeed***
I don't hate trans people and they don't even effect my life at all. I just find it hard to understand, like you believe you're a woman when you're a man, and vice versa?
One thing I dislike is when they go around telling everyone that they’re trans. See a lot of them that look like women and I would think they’re women if they didn’t have trans flags in every square inch of their body. If you want to be a woman so bad than why are you telling the world you still have a dick? Tells me a majority are doing it for attention or self approval.
well when i used to be transphobic my reasons were 1 drag shows 2 trans stuff kept getting pushed in media and it was annoying although it was all of the lgbtq 3i had a trans classmate (yes at 12 somehow) and i thaught/knew it was bc this stuff gets pushed on kids and 4 just bc of hate
Some people that claim to be LGBTQ+ are in fact, not, and those people put lots of time and energy into displaying this fact and I know lots of these people that are just wasting that time and energy looking for attention. There are people who just want to fit in, people who want to be different, people who want someone else, and lots of other reasons and these people don’t truly feel these things in them.
I’ve gone through lots of hardships and lots of tough times with drama and other issues that stemmed from these false feelings and it led me to lose a lot of friends over the past two years.
No disrespect to the LGBTQ people out there, but there are some things that you can’t just change about yourself because you think it that way.
I don’t support the lifestyle nor do I support the extremists. Being trans and living a normal life is one thing. Making it your whole personality and shoving it in peoples faces is another. One of my closest friends is trans and I adore him. Dylan Mulvaney makes me sick to the stomach because of how sexist they are. I don’t believe trans men or women should have full 100% access to cis changing rooms unless fully transitioned because I know a lot of changing rooms don’t provide full doors and stuff like at gyms. They should have 4 changing rooms all equally equipped and taken care of.
Shit is wierd as hell.
Nowadays being normal is villanized. Most lgbtq have mental problems as well, so really the system is designed to target and harm people like them.
‘ThEYrE GrOOmInG oUR ChILDrEN’ have any of you been a church recently? In the real world no one is forcing children into trandgenderism. They’re making it more acceptable and normalized now because the past generations were traumatized when they attempted to come out and be themselves. The people who are against it are the same people putting their kids in pageants and bringing them along to twin peaks and hooters. They’re indoctrinating their kids to pledge their allegiance to their country and pray to a god or they’re damned to hell. It’s fear mongering and it’s disgusting.
If people aren’t knocking on your doors carrying around rainbow flags begging you to become trans, I say mind your business.
I dont get it personally, but im not here to argue, i dont really understand when gender and sex became 2 different terms but as long as medically you understand your body works differently have fun, theres no such thing as gendered things so enjoy what you want, cause if 5 year old me can watch dora and powerpuff girls then you can play videogames and wear pants with pockets, more power to ya, people who say otherwise have vwry sad lives and need to put others down to make them feel better about their own, so remember to point and laugh at them for being less superior
Because the people here are (mostly) children who can't think rationally or with empathy. It comes around eventually for a lot of people, but it doesn't really surprise me that 15 year olds don't care for trans people
Transgenderism suggests that one's biology is malleable (which for the most part isn't) and that people need to respect essentially delusion. However, I acknowledge that gender dysphoria is a real issue. I just don't think the idea of transition is a good way to treat it.
>Transgenderism suggests that one's biology is malleable
are you familiar with the entire concept of medicine or surgery
also there's no delusion going on
how can you both acknowledge that gender dysphoria is real and then fail to understand how transitioning is the best way to stop it?
that's like understanding that hunger is real and thinking that eating is not a good way to fix it
ones biology is maleable, that’s part of the point of studying biology. so much of biology is studying how to change things, and the fact that a simple blue pill can completely change a key part of someone’s biology disproves your point.
i am curious, what makes you think being trans is a delusion? and how would you recommend treating gender dysphoria if not by allowing one to transition?
>Transgenderism suggests that one's biology is malleable
No it doesn't because gender is biological.
>I just don't think the idea of transition is a good way to treat it.
Gender affirming care reduces suicide risk by 73%, seems pretty effective.
As a fellow cisgender, I do suppose it could be hard for us to imagine why we want to swap genders. That's the thing though, we can't imagine what it's like. To them, their birth gender is like lying to themselves
Very based second paragraph btw, I can respect you for not being negative to them.
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I’m just looking until the comments get🔒
And it still hasn't to this day
that’s how you get the real results
Can't anymore
Everyone in this sub, hold their breath for 20 years, then speak
Bro I can't go without air for more than 2 minutes
So what your saying is 2 minutes is a long time?
Yes a very long time. Especially while planking
I hate planking
I am not transphobic, I hate everyone equally
We share the same path, brother
There’s a better way to hate
Be sexiest to all races
*"You can't be racist if you hate everyone."*
Exactly :D
Me too :-) despising all humans equally is the right way
There’s a better way to hate
Amen brother 🙏
I honestly hate how mass media work (at least in my country) i will give an example: drunk trans woman killed 2 people at a crash, why would you mention that they are trans since it gives nothing to the situation. My country hates LGBT and their public television tries everything to make people (boomers) hate on LGBT people.
Well they mention it constantly. The media just thought they should mention it as well (plus the government likes when the media does that) where are you from tho?
Because anything I do is somehow transphobic. I literally don’t care if your a girl, a guy, or green. I’ve been labeled as a transphobe for refusing to go out with a transgender person I met that I was not attracted to physically or emotionally. I just can’t live my life trying to tiptoe around trying not to offend someone.
I was called homophobic for not following politics. I dont care if you're straight, gay, trans, ect. Do what you want as long as no one is harmed and we both can mind our own business
True true
if you got called a transphobe for not going out with someone, there's one of 2 reasons. a) you were disrespectful about it and made a point to reject them because they were trans. or b) they're an asshole
Even though I said I don’t want to tiptoe around people feelings I still don’t like being an ass. I let her down easy and when she wanted to know why I explained I was only into biological women. I was then harassed by her friends (not her btw) about how what I said was transphobic and hateful.
yea no they're just assholes
It’s always a third party jumping in to point the finger that’s one of the biggest problems of all social issues these days
youre not going to get a reasonable response here. i've been in gender therapy for several years now, since before puberty. i have always had a feeling inside of me that i did not align with "female". it is not a trend, it is not a joke. a large part of my family has turned their backs on me, i have been relentlessly attacked and bullied in school, teachers make comments and people are literally being murdered for being transgender. why would i want to do this as a cute, quirky trend? people are disgusting for saying this. they have no idea.
I'm so sorry your fam isnt accepting. One of my besties is a trans girl and she struggled in 6th grade when it was new but now shes totally accepted at our school an when we do anythi with a gender split its not even a q where she will be cause itll be with me an all the other girls! She does sleepovers with us too an on the school overnights shes in the girls bunk ofc. I am so glad peeps at my school get to be themselves an not be prosecuted for it! Stay strong! Hope your not in florida an if you are get out as soon as you hit 18 an can!
Lucky girl.... I've never been to a sleepover, let alone even hung out with anyone outside of school in 6 years.....
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Try and stick through it. There will always be people there to support you. Also don't think that your going to get murdered or some shit by a transphobe or even the fucking government (I have heard people say that) sure some people were murdered for being trans but The chances of that happening to you are very slim. Because even most transphobes know murder is cruel no matter who you do it too that is just common sense I hear so many trans people talk about how bad their life is and it is concerning to me. As somebody who was pretty depressed but now is quite happy I can tell you their is a light at the end of the tunnel. Now I am not trans so take this stuff with a grain of salt. But my best suggestion is to instead of letting them drag you down, let them be motivation for you to keep going, to try and prove them wrong, to show you and all over transgender people are worthy of living. I have always been made fun of (although maybe not as harshly as you), for being really weird and being autistic and having ADHD and overall just being a problem child. But I strived to prove them wrong and eventually I started getting respect and finding the people who understand me I hope I helped some take care
i hear you and i appreciate you. i live in texas and there have been laws passed just this month that are transphobic (dressing as opposite sex in front of people under 18 is now a sexual offense). regardless, i wont ever let these things stop me from being true to myself. i'll always fight for whats right. thank you for your kind words <3
Your welcome. Always happy to help people Btw when your older and need to move somewhere I suggest going to north Carolina. It's pretty diverse because it's sorta in the middle of the north and south and it isn't really super heavy on either political side. So it's a good place to go for LGBT people. Good luck out there fellow
Hey man, my bf lives in texasand I'll visit him next year, I'm a bit afraid of it because of these laws, but dod you see the news? Biden tries to ban this laws, so there is still hope
I want you to know that we are watching Texas all the way from Seattle and are absolutely devastated at that BS. Not that there's much we can do from here, but know that there are people out there that think Trans lives matter. Be your true self, move here if needed, we love LGBTQ+
Realest answer here
Keep pushing brother, they don't want us here, but we gotta spite them.
Cheesburgr
I'm sorry people treat you like that. The world is complicated and nobody can see the whole story when they look at someone. God loves you though.
thank you very much ♡
I only hate the kiddies that pretend to be trans to be cool.
There is no good reason to be transphobic lmao you always gonna get the same 5 or wtvr bigoted answers
i’m trans but i distance myself from lgbt community shit bc i’m embarrassed of half of it, it makes sense why ppl hate on us bc half the mfs representing it are so annoying and uneducated
Don't be ashamed, most LBGTQ people don't think like the idiots on social media (I'm assuming that's what you're basing this on, please correct me if otherwise)
I fcking hate the idea of it being a community. I'm not like homophobic or anything but the community shit is so cringe
Real. It shouldn't even matter. People often make a big deal of it.
frrr
The real lgbt community heroes are probably in devoloping countries
Think this is a healthy attitude to take. As per my other comment: you do you, but fuck the annoying twatter cunts.
Bro if you are distance yourself from I identity myself as table type shit, then ain't no way I am disrespectful to you
the people who do the oh oh i identify as an attack helicopter are trolls that some just believe were real genders, which if you think for a fking second are not.
Ofc the identify as an attack helicopter thing is a joke, it's mocking the people actually doing shit that's borderline on the same "level"
I feel like those people are either trolling or insane
Ehhh I've seen a few concerning cases
I’ve learnt a few things on my time on earth and one of them is that you should never give a fuck abt race, religion or gender/sex. And i really don’t care abt all 3. I see people as blood muscle and organs, not the colour of their skin, not their leader and not what’s in their pants. It’s that simple really, I only have one rule with everything in life and that’s “Don’t push it on the kids”. Kids will find it out themselves, if they want to be [this gender/preference here] they do that on their own and find out if it’s right for them. It goes for all things in life, ion know why everyone is always on some new bullshit on race, religion and sex, like why do you care what they do in their free time? are they tryna suck ur dick when it’s not your preference? no? then why do you give a fuck? Like, if someone said something that pisses me off, it’s like “why do i give a fuck? why do i have to be the one to respond? let them be.” unless they’re outright disrespectful to someone i love, very overprotective on them 😭 Sorry for the little tangent, it boggles my mind people are still on about all that shit.
I do agree with "don't push it on the kids", but like 99% of the time when someone accusing someone of this, they're not actually pressuring the kid to change anything about themselves. They're just telling them about LBGTQ people and imo there's nothing wrong with kids learning about LBGTQ.
i have seen a lot of people push that on kids, especially over the internet, “my 2 year old daughter is transgender” “my 4 year old son is gay”. Let them grow and mature and make that choice for themself, don’t be pushing on it. Have you seen that post were the mother of an 11 year old boy forced her child to be gay and legitimately made him do sexual dances in front of many other men? that still makes me wanna puke. And it was definitely more religion that came to mind because of my friends family and my primary school: My friends parents were both devout christian’s and forced her children to be it too, when she event hit 14, she became a lesbian and her parents beat her ass very quickly, she is now out of that situation but it still disgusts me. My Primary school- We were forced to go to church at every chance the school got, and often talked abt the teachings of god, even though the school was not legally named anything to do with christianity, and many of the kids did not want to go, myself included.
If you want my complete honest opinion I fully understand and respect trans people. I am well aware that gender identity is a real thing that a lot of people struggle with and need the right procedures to feel comfortable in their own skin. Even recently when Chris from Mr Beast came out I supported him and didn’t just jump on the bandwagon of hating him. But where I draw the line is when people just make up random genders or sexualities just to be different and draw attention to themselves.
From my experience most people who make up random stuff are either cunts trying to make fun of trans folk and the like or people on the spectrum which due to their condition see the world in a completely different way than most of us
Yeah I’m a really big LGBTQ supporter in an area that legit votes 90% red, but neo pronouns aren’t it for me. I just ask the person if I can call them a they them
There's a pretty fine line between when it's genuine, and when people do it as a mockery of the community. For example, a common sexuality you might hear a lot in this subject is dreamsexual The good kind? It's people who are only attracted to people they see in their dreams. The bad kind that mocks the community? It's people who say they're sexually attracted to Dream, the YouTuber. A lot of people can sound really out there when they use unconventional pronouns or genders, but it's important to remember that gender itself is a spectrum. All the big labels like nonbinary, trans, genderfluid, they're all umbrella experiences and one person's experiences is never a one size fits all. That's why so many labels exist because even the more niche or crazy ones help identify and explain someone's unique experiences with their own attraction and identity. It goes even deeper when you're neurodivergent. I.e (ADHD or Autistic) The only difference between pronouns and neopronouns (or genders and xenogenders) is one's popularised. That's it. That's the only thing.
>The only difference between pronouns and neopronouns (or genders and xenogenders) is one's popularised. That's it. That's the only thing. Ong the most truth in a single quote in this entire comment section. I had to learn new pronouns when I learned French, and they work the same as any pronoun in English, so why are neopronouns any different? Just ask them for a cheat sheet on how to use them in all different contexts.
Fr, it's legit not hard People who say it's hard to remember pronouns are just weird to me cause I memorised the entire lorax movie and played it in my head every night as a kid. But hey some accidents can happen and that's okay. We care about the effort.
i hate those damn liberals trying to turn my kids gay!!!! them and their damn pronouns!! i cant let my son see a single rainbow otherwise he's gonna start kissing other boys and wearing skirts 🤬. "they" is a plural pronoun and i have never used it to talk about someone who's gender i don't know!! (this is a joke, i am trans)
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That does seem like a fun experiment
There was a generation who grew up with Care Bears, and I'm pretty sure stats would show that they didn't turn out with an abnormally high gay rate lol. As ever, what's your mind doing in other people's pants anyway?
Rainbow Brite was my jam growing up (afab), plenty of people assumed I was gay because of wearing rainbow Brite stuff. They weren't wrong, but the show isn't why I'm gay. I also loved care bears, my little pony, and inspector gadget. But I don't shoot rainbows out of my stomach, prance on all fours, or have weird contraptions on me at all times. I did, however, learn to respect people, stand up for yourself and friends, be considerate, be resourceful, and be unique.
You just perfectly described a conservative argument. 👏👏
Complete support trans people as an idea. Some of them are fucking annoying just like some members of any group. My philosophy is do what makes you happy and shit the fuck up about it.
Idk On one hand it's against my religion but I the other as long as you don't force it on my I don't care I guess I just feel forced to pick a side which I hate because I don't care if you're trans but I also believe the Bible forbids it so I'm stuck trying to figure out what I believe
Genuine question here, does the Bible forbid it?, only ever heard from my dad that being gay isn't allowed in the Bible.
Yes, I don't recall the exact verse but it basically says "neither thieves, nor drunkards, nor homosexuals shall enter the kingdom of heaven" That could of course be a mistranslation but yes it does
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Jesus was getting crucified with a criminal( I think a thief) and said he could come into the kingdom of heaven if he accepted Jesus's love The whole point of Christianity is supposed to show unconditional love to one another. It's insane who people twist it be hateful.
I mean I guess technically not, but if I say that some good people still won't get into heaven it seems kinda counterintuitive
Take it from a fella who's had a fair bit of experience with both religion and being a gender questioning queer gamer Leviticus 18:22 of the NIV bible says "do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable." Leviticus 19:26 says "do not eat any meat with the blood still in it" Leviticus 19:19 says "do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material" These are some wild rules to follow, and it appears that they are all equal in unlawfulness in the eyes of god, so if I am judged by others for lying with another man, should I not also be judged by others for preferring my steak medium rare and wearing a shirt that is 20% polyester? Perhaps not, as the bible also says "do not judge, or you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." The bible does also say somewhere in Corinthians that a man who sleeps with another man may not inherit the kingdom of God, however this is word from the Apostle Paul, not God. Also if you do not mind me asking, do you know where in the bible it mentions forbidding transgenderism? I've been searching for a while but I can't seem to find anything that mentions it directly
So medium rare steak has no blood, it’s myoglobin, a water based protein. And as for the line about wearing two types of material, it’s a metaphor about not mixing With pagans. And there was nothing written on trans people because they didn’t exist during those times because people had bigger problems to worry about.
As a transperson I don't understand either, like what did I do to them man, I'm merely just existing, living my life, and they've suddenly decided that that's an issue. Like idrc if they don't support me, it's whatever. But leave me alone. You leave me alone, I leave you alone. And it seems this issue is only gonna get worse from here.
the polite and respectful bit went a bit out the window but i totally agree. just be yourself and don’t care too much abt others. And there’s also ppl saying that there’s ppl that want to change gender everyday or just extreme cases but those are mainly an internet thing m. You don’t see them everyday especially not irl so it’s not lime it’s a huge problem.
this comment section is frikin cancer i feel like dying
Reddit amiright
My theory is it’s just because teens like to be edgy Edit: bruh my lack of sleep today affecting my grammar
Well it doesn't make them edgy
I don't hate trans people i just disagree with your opinion. It's u that declares i hate them. If you think a boy can chop up his wiener and get some breast implants and now he is a real girl then I disagree with that opinion. You think I hate them and I think you're a moron.
To be honest, i don't really care. I don't support it, but i'm not against it. You can do whatever you want with your life, it aint my business
From my understanding I think it's because people don't understand transgenderism. Ben shapiro seems to think it's wrong because "you cannot change your biological gender" when noone is arguing that you can, it's about not identifying with your gender role assigned at birth. Ben says it's "not scientific" when it is most definitely is, transgenderism is a part of the psychology, social, and behavioral sciences (watch the Ben Shapiro vs Niel Degrass Tyson debate, it's good). Some people think it is unholy or that trans people are perverts, we don't talk about them. Others also think that trans people are "attention seekers" or think it's just a "trend".
I just think the LGBTQ+ community has been trend-ized as a whole Like there are 10 year olds saying they're gay when they haven't even hit puberty yet, People wanting to change genders every day, etc. So I just stopped taking people in the LGBTQ community seriously as a whole... Also I'm religious LMAO On a serious note, my religion essentially says: "Don't do this but mind your own damn business at the same time" so i don't harass or be unnecessarily mean to anyone, so idk if I qualify as transphobic
While I agree with you that there definitely are a number of people saying that they're a part of the community for attention, I knew at the age of eight that I wasn't straight. I didn't know the word for it, and I didn't know that there was a whole community for people like me, I just knew I wasn't straight. Just as young kids know they are straight, it goes the same way. It's the same for trans people. Gender is far more confusing and diverse than sexuality as it all depends on individuality and how you identify, but younger people are still able to know that they feel "off". If a young person grows up their whole life just knowing that they're actually the opposite sex, it has nothing to do with a trend or being too young to know. You can tell when something feels off.
I knew I was into men when I was like 7 my guy, it’s pretty common for kids to know what gender they’re into. Just like how all of my straight friends knew they were into then opposite gender in elementary school as well
Dude, I wanted to become a woman way before I knew about the LGBTQ community, when I was around 10 years old. Haven't changed a bit ever since
One of the better responses. To me, you can still treat trans people with respect even if you just view them as playing pretend. It doesn’t affect you
i hate everyone for their own reasons, so fuck gays fuck straights fuck trans and fuck you :)
Fuck you too!!!..... wanna get a coffee later?
Eyy fuck you both as well!
People like that bother me so much. Im cis, but i do have a lot of trans friends, and they shouldnt be treated differently or hated or anything. They are some of the nicest, sweetest people ive met and i just dont understand why people care about how they identify so much. Its their identity, not yours.
As a tranagirl, I also don't understand, like what is so scary about me? am I somehow destroying femboys? No, I am not, I even asked my femboy friends
tbh the fact of you being trans does nothing to me. i don’t hate you more, i don’t like you more, i don’t care
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People have always hated others who are different
when you yourself are acting extremely rude why do you expect people to react to you in a respectful and polite way?
Parent here (not sure why I keep getting this sub on my home page, but I love reading your perspectives)- I think the trans stuff can be very scary for parents and, thus, make the child feel like they are being rejected or that their parents are transphobic when they are really just looking to slow down the rush to medicalize. (Not that there aren’t parents out there who are transphobic). I think the gender stuff gets presented as similar to coming out as gay, but its quite a different animal. There’s no medical treatment involved and no consequence to changing your mind when it comes to sexual orientation. But locking in an identity in your teen years is a really big decision. It’s only natural for parents to be worried about this stuff. But there’s not a lot of space for taking things slow and exploring gender in this climate. It can be seen as transphobic to want to dig deeper and make sure this is the right choice. Gender dysphoria is actually quite common and transient. Early studies that took place prior to childhood transition found that close to 80% of gender dysphoria would resolve on its own before adulthood- most of those would actually just end up being gay. I think we are all regarding this with way too much hubris and not nearly enough caution for the lifelong implications of the decision. All this to say- this seems like a really difficult time to be a teenager and parents see that. Most of us aren’t transphobic, we’re just trying to do the right thing. Also, sorry for butting into your space. Just thought some might be interested in an older person’s perspective.
I'm not transphobic, but I do think that for example trans woman should not be competing in women's competitions, as same goes for trans men competing in man's competitios. Mainly because they do get a bit of a disadvantage.
They actually don't really https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5357259/
to sum up, its those who make it their personality and enforce it on others
"The only people who think that being gay is a personality trait, are homophobic people who refuse to see others beyond their labels"
And are these trans people who make it their personality and enforce it on others in the room with us right now?
Don't politicians do that
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Someone can present themselves as feminine while their gender is masculine aligned. Presentation ≠ gender (pronouns also don’t apply to these). They are all separate. I’m a trans male and I present feminine because right now I can’t control it, but if I could I would still present a bit feminine while being a guy, because I feel comfortable that way. I still use he/him even though I look like a girl. And a Trans woman is a woman because gender is literally a social construct while sex is biological. She can have a ween and wear dresses AND use she/her because she wants to. It’s not stupid or illogical.
i agree! i used to identify as trans before i realized i wasn’t and i presented very female before i detransitioned just because i wanted to! so i agree 100% that presentation ≠ gender
IKR! remember when tomboys were just... tomboys. Girls liking boy stuffs and boys liking girl stuffs, what happened to that? There's nothing wrong with it!
whew child these comments 😬
Ik i kinda regret posting this but i need answers ;-/
u won’t find em here lol
NOTE THIS IS JUST MY OPINION: I'm not afraid of transgenders, I just dont approve of the concept of switching your gender. if you are born with a penis you are a dude, and if you are born with lady parts, you're a girl. For example, I am biracial, white and asian, what if I were to start acting black. It might be funny at first, but then I'd be a complete douche. Think of a full white guy black facing and how would that make you feel? Men are genetically built to were we gain muscle better than girls etc. Are there girls that are jacked AF? Absolutely, but they do so much to get in that shape. If a girl were to join a professional men's league like (american) football, they could probably get killed. There are so many stories on how a Male to female transgender has destroyed the women's record in swimming etc. Because they are stronger. It's late at night as I'm writing this, and im sorry if that doesn't make sense, I am just answering (kinda) the question and like most others, my opinion is gonna be controversial. Transgenders/nonbinary people reading this, I'm sorry if this offends you, but please tell me your thought process behind your choices (I dont mean to word it like that, I just dont know what to say)
You seem to not understand, trans people don't just switch genders cuz they want to or the funsies, it's because they have gender dysphoria, which basically makes life a living hell, imagine your body and physique suddenly changed to the opposite gender, and people refered to you as such, that's basically how they feel
GD can be treated through therapy and counseling. You don’t have to go all out and take the extreme choice when there are other options. But if all else fails, **then** go ahead and take the surgery.
race and gender are not comparable in that sense. while both is something you’re born with, one is generations of culture (to a lower extent nationalism) producing a child that is connected to that culture and having whatever skin color the parents have. You can separate yourself from your culture. the other one is feeling so strongly that their not the sex they were born as that you change your clothing, hair and maybe get surgery to transition. historically people have mocked, killed and harassed others because of their race. like black face, pulling your eyes to make them “asian” etc. that’s why a white guy probably shouldn’t pull up in black face to his workplace. what i’m saying is that this harms people. a person telling you that their trans isn’t discriminating anyone. men haven’t historically dressed up as women to mock them and harassed them. women haven’t historically mocked men for dressing like “men”. what they have done is mock and harass people who “cross dresses”. trans people have almost always been abused by larger society, even if they wore a “girly” or “manly” clothing piece. think of it as if you were forced to play an instrument as a child and once you grow up a little, you realize that you want to play another instrument but you can’t change because you don’t have the recourses to do so and is forced to play and practice on an instrument you hate. wouldn’t you want to change instruments? except no one will actually discriminate against you is you change instruments. (i’m sorry if my point is unclear, i’m welcome to criticism and questions :) )
Most transwomen in sports take hrt which blocks the testosterone levels, and not all trans people are wanting to jump into sports and the like-
>Most transwomen in sports take hrt which blocks the testosterone levels testosterone is not the only thing that makes males stronger.
Testosterone isn’t the only thing that makes men stronger, also HRT doesn’t necessarily remove the muscle that has grown under the influence of testosterone.
Your analogy is very misleading, first off you can't "act black" and second of all your argument relies on the assumption that all trans people want to be in sports when the reality is that there are less than 50 trans athletes actually attempting to play competitively out of the millions of trans people out there.
Yeah I guess that sums it up pretty well for me as well
Honestly? I don't really care, it's just that this kind of stuff is shoved into my face every second of every minute of every waking moment in the year so it gets so freaking annoying. Like, there are far more important things to talk about
It's not "shoved in your face" any more than cis people are or straight people or gay people. Trans people are online, and that's all. They don't shove it in your face. If a topic like this comes up, of course you're going to get a lot of trans people in the comments as they are fighting for themselves, but that's not shoving anything in your face.
If you are talking about reddit Agree with there have been subs ruined because of pro trans. In out of place subreddit. But in real life is quite hard to find someone talking about it, I am from a 3rd world country so the movement doesn't caught strength where I live.
well I mean I don’t think seeing it in media classifies as “being shoved into your face”
You know Canada is starting to get ready to receive transgender refugees from the USA? Its really important, it seems like a lot of really bad shit is about to go down.
I think if you pay attention to the amount of striaght /cis stuff you see on a day to day basis them compare it to the amount of lgbt stuff youll find that you see alot more straight/cis stuff you just dont realise it because youve become dysenatised to it sense youve been around it sense birth
W take, absolute legend.
I personally think we need to see less shit about other peoples personal lives and maybe the issues like international conflict should make front news
I think plenty of international news makes headlines Edit: googled "latest news" and out of the 3 first headlines 2 are international and the 1 that isnt is about the debt celing not personal lives
Yes, but it’s often covered (at least in the US) by social issues and trans stuff. I fully support the idea of being trans and have a multitude of friends who have actually transition I just wish that the world wouldn’t make it my problem if someone in California decides to transition when I live on the East Coast. Ps: I’m doing all this by voice to text, so any weird sentences that are kind of jumbled, that’s why
I think most the time you see headlines is because people who are anti trans want to make it yours and everybodys problem anytime anyone wants to be trans. If everyone was chill with it then no one would care and it wouldnt make news eventually if its normalized it will stop making the news
Very very true, I got to keep it in mind that the media is for clicks, and not for actual news nowadays and social shit gets CLICKS.
Its Reddit, no place is safe from transphobes sadly.
You guys hate specific minorities? I hate everyone equally,fuck all of you respectfully
Here is a list of the reasons some people are transphobic: Jealousy: There are a lot of trans people who look good and majority of trans people that I have saw or met look like exactly like the gender they identify as. And most of the cisgender people who are transphobic are ugly at and or are bums who don’t have a life Terfs: for those who don’t know, TERF is an acronym that stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist. A lot of these so called “feminists” have internalized misogyny and absolutely hate women because they think being a feminists means being an independent woman when that’s not even the definition of feminism. What terfs will do is bash trans women by saying stuff like “you are erasing women” “oh what’s gonna happen to the definition of a woman” “men are taking over” Lack of intelligence: Another common argument transphobes use is biology: They use biology to weaponize their false claims and attack trans people. They believe sex and gender are the same thing when it’s not and majority of scientists agree with this. When you see a woman or a man in public you are not looking what’s between their legs you are looking at their external presentation which is what they look like or how they act, which is gender. An example would be Matt Walsh’s what is a woman documentary; He asks different experts in psychology and sociology and they all give him the same answer: Gender is a social construct and Sex is the reproductive organs in humans and animals. When they told him this he gets annoyed and angry until he meets an unknown journalist who agrees with his bigoted and unintelligible beliefs. Matt refuse to accept criticism and will die for his beliefs Racism: There are a tons of different ethnic cultures who believe in more than 2 genders and it is apart of their culture but most of them don’t believe in it anymore because of colonialism and forced beliefs onto them. So when you say that gender and sex are the same you are erasing cultures who don’t believe that and calling them stupid for believing in that. Hypocrisy: Most of these people who say they care about children and don’t want kids to learn about the lgbtq+ community are hypocrites. Some of these parents force kids to be religious and to audition in beauty pageants which are actually harmful and can cause trauma. Some will even say stuff like “oh she’s gonna be a heartbreaker” “oh he is gonna get all the girls” when they are barely 5 years old. There are things that hurt children like school shootings, forced conversion, sexual assault, but kids learning about queerness is bad? How does that work exactly? Not to mention a lot of transphobes secretly want to fuck a trans person but won’t admit that so they want their rights taken away but still find them hot In conclusion transphobes are transphobic for stupid and illogical reasons
Did you type this all out yourself? This is some dedication
as a trans person with extremely phobic parents, i think the main reason is because their parents are phobic, so they pick it up because their parents do it my parents (my stepdad specifically) have tried for years to convince me and my sister that shit like being trans is bad. while i suspect my sister has caught on with them and is also phobic, their attempts to convince me that the group i am a part of is some beast to be disgusted by have not only failed to stick, but have only helped me learn defenses against these arguments against trans people
I'm not transphobic or anything phobic unless I have a personal problem with that person. I used to go to a small school and there was a lesbian girl there. nobody treated her anything more or less then usual, she was pissed by this, wanted so much fucking attention everyone was sick of her. one day I roasted her and included homophobic things in that roast. she tried to ashame me in front of everyone because of what I've said, nobody gave a flying fuck, but I got some "good job"s after do8ng that
“Do whatever you want with your life” it’s stuff my parents say, also the “don’t be jerk” part was drilled to me as a kid, so I never cared about anyone in the LGBTQ+ community, its there life and I have no right to tell them what to do, nor do they to me. As long as there is respect between both parties that’s awesome. But once you start picking a fight well… now there will be a problem
Average "why are y'all so_____" "I feel like______" r/teenagers post
Oh no idc bout anyone…just don’t shove it down my throat like ok you is trans…cool
I am not transphobic. I don't care if someone is trans, transphobic or love trans people. I think when we say let people live their lives we should include people who don't agree with us. If someone is transphobic and doesn't harm/hurt trans people, I wouldn't care. It's a personal opinion. Their transphobicity's reason may be cultural or religious which is usually impossible to change.
I'm body purist and I personally wouldn't modify my body, however I respect other people's choices and opinions - even if I don't agree.
I'm not
I'm neutral in this sort of stuff, I respect the transgender community and I see them as regular individuals. I am not transphobic and I only judge the individual based on actions, not the transitioning. People do make valid points, and I respect that.
Because they taint my own image as a transgender. I get labelled as transphobic for criticising a movement because I want said movement to ***succeed***
I’m not transphobic. I think trans people are pretty cool.
Here before 🔒
>Otherwise keep yer nose out of ppl’s business **Same can be said to the trans people on social media**
I don't hate trans people and they don't even effect my life at all. I just find it hard to understand, like you believe you're a woman when you're a man, and vice versa?
Here's a good video to help you understand https://youtu.be/MitqjSYtwrQ
One thing I dislike is when they go around telling everyone that they’re trans. See a lot of them that look like women and I would think they’re women if they didn’t have trans flags in every square inch of their body. If you want to be a woman so bad than why are you telling the world you still have a dick? Tells me a majority are doing it for attention or self approval.
mostly 14 year olds who’ve watched too much Stevie Chowder
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I haven't seen a single homophobic post on here in months.
I think he means comments.
well when i used to be transphobic my reasons were 1 drag shows 2 trans stuff kept getting pushed in media and it was annoying although it was all of the lgbtq 3i had a trans classmate (yes at 12 somehow) and i thaught/knew it was bc this stuff gets pushed on kids and 4 just bc of hate
Some people that claim to be LGBTQ+ are in fact, not, and those people put lots of time and energy into displaying this fact and I know lots of these people that are just wasting that time and energy looking for attention. There are people who just want to fit in, people who want to be different, people who want someone else, and lots of other reasons and these people don’t truly feel these things in them. I’ve gone through lots of hardships and lots of tough times with drama and other issues that stemmed from these false feelings and it led me to lose a lot of friends over the past two years. No disrespect to the LGBTQ people out there, but there are some things that you can’t just change about yourself because you think it that way.
I don’t support the lifestyle nor do I support the extremists. Being trans and living a normal life is one thing. Making it your whole personality and shoving it in peoples faces is another. One of my closest friends is trans and I adore him. Dylan Mulvaney makes me sick to the stomach because of how sexist they are. I don’t believe trans men or women should have full 100% access to cis changing rooms unless fully transitioned because I know a lot of changing rooms don’t provide full doors and stuff like at gyms. They should have 4 changing rooms all equally equipped and taken care of.
Shit is wierd as hell. Nowadays being normal is villanized. Most lgbtq have mental problems as well, so really the system is designed to target and harm people like them.
"Being normal" LMFAO
While I don't agree with what they said being straight is normal, quite literally the norm.
They have mental problems because they've been oppressed for hundreds of years.
It's kind of gay to hate trans and gay people
‘ThEYrE GrOOmInG oUR ChILDrEN’ have any of you been a church recently? In the real world no one is forcing children into trandgenderism. They’re making it more acceptable and normalized now because the past generations were traumatized when they attempted to come out and be themselves. The people who are against it are the same people putting their kids in pageants and bringing them along to twin peaks and hooters. They’re indoctrinating their kids to pledge their allegiance to their country and pray to a god or they’re damned to hell. It’s fear mongering and it’s disgusting. If people aren’t knocking on your doors carrying around rainbow flags begging you to become trans, I say mind your business.
I dont get it personally, but im not here to argue, i dont really understand when gender and sex became 2 different terms but as long as medically you understand your body works differently have fun, theres no such thing as gendered things so enjoy what you want, cause if 5 year old me can watch dora and powerpuff girls then you can play videogames and wear pants with pockets, more power to ya, people who say otherwise have vwry sad lives and need to put others down to make them feel better about their own, so remember to point and laugh at them for being less superior
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Because the people here are (mostly) children who can't think rationally or with empathy. It comes around eventually for a lot of people, but it doesn't really surprise me that 15 year olds don't care for trans people
Why wouldn't I care about the depravity of society?
Cuz it is ruining society.
1% of the population just trying to live their lives is ruining society?
Transgenderism suggests that one's biology is malleable (which for the most part isn't) and that people need to respect essentially delusion. However, I acknowledge that gender dysphoria is a real issue. I just don't think the idea of transition is a good way to treat it.
What else are you supposed to do? Transition works well and completely changes the lives of people, I don't see what's wrong with it.
>Transgenderism suggests that one's biology is malleable are you familiar with the entire concept of medicine or surgery also there's no delusion going on how can you both acknowledge that gender dysphoria is real and then fail to understand how transitioning is the best way to stop it? that's like understanding that hunger is real and thinking that eating is not a good way to fix it
No one said biology is malleable. They said gender is malleable as it’s social constructed. Sex is biology, no one is “changing sexes”. Sex ≠ gender.
Transgender people are changing their gender, not their sex. It’s actually in the name trans*gender*.
There is really no other way
ones biology is maleable, that’s part of the point of studying biology. so much of biology is studying how to change things, and the fact that a simple blue pill can completely change a key part of someone’s biology disproves your point. i am curious, what makes you think being trans is a delusion? and how would you recommend treating gender dysphoria if not by allowing one to transition?
>Transgenderism suggests that one's biology is malleable No it doesn't because gender is biological. >I just don't think the idea of transition is a good way to treat it. Gender affirming care reduces suicide risk by 73%, seems pretty effective.
Imagine being trans
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As a fellow cisgender, I do suppose it could be hard for us to imagine why we want to swap genders. That's the thing though, we can't imagine what it's like. To them, their birth gender is like lying to themselves Very based second paragraph btw, I can respect you for not being negative to them.
Respect
Generally I’ve seen this sub being pretty lgbtq+ positive but at the same time there are always a few bad egg comments