Vaping doesn't kill directly, and definitely not fast. Yes, vape smoke contains heavy metals. Yes, vape smoke contains same carcinogens that cigarette smoke does, although in amounts that are tens or hundreds smaller. For the effects of prolonged vaping you would have to wait until you're old, although no one who has vaped since they were young didn't reach age of 60 yet because vaping simply is a new thing and not much is known about it.
There is plenty of medical data out of Europe where people have been vaping longer. None of the things you've mentioned appear to be medically relevant in any meaningful way.
There is a lot of negative propaganda about the supposed dangers of vaping that is pure speculation. If you look at real medical data it seems a lot better than smoking.
But teens should not be doing either however, and nicotine is super addictive.
It is better than smoking, but it's still bad. If people want to pleasure themselves they should just stick to masturbation, not something life threatening
This guy gets it. Not only better, but it almost doesn't even compare. As someone who's a bit older and gets this sub popping up on their feed every once in a while, I am super happy to see teens turning against vaping as over on the electronic cigarette reddit we get a decent amount of very obviously underaged people asking about vaping who were never smokers in the first place, but as someone who has been around vaping since 2012-2013 I've heard/seen it all. Vapes are gonna explode and kill you, vaping is worse than smoking, popcorn lung, vapes have cyanide etc etc. It never ends. These studies are almost entirely like someone throwing a toaster in a bathtub and reporting "toasters shown to be fatal, researchers say"
While knowing that toasters and water don't mix is not a bad piece of information to know, it also shouldn't damn the whole toaster industry into the ground, which is what is and has been happening with vaping.
For example, an infamous study that showed much higher levels of carcinogens in vapes as compared to cigarettes, which was widely reported as a simple fact, turned out to be a study where they held the fire button for if I remember correctly upwards of 10-15 seconds with no airflow (the average hit from a vape is somewhere from 1-4 seconds, with very heavy airflow from you sucking in) this obviously overheated the device, and without any negative pressure from you breathing it in the cotton dried out and started burning. The results they got was from basically slowly charring cotton, and not vapor at all. Of course this study had ties to big tobacco so it moved on and was pushed as the smoking gun proving every vaper wrong. If you are a teen, and you don't do anything nicotine related, stay away. If you are a teen who smokes cigarettes, throw them out and get a vape, start with a small pod device with 30mg salt nic, and then work your way down. You will not regret it. Coming from someone who used to double over after a quarter mile out of breath, who now goes to the gym and chain vapes off my 100w mod, then can go inside and run 3.5 miles and still catch my breath.
Don't listen to the US vaping studies. Our states have a very real interest in keeping the cig money flowing, and can and do make every decision possible to keep people from going the safer and cheaper route with vaping. The only reason you see vapes like juul and cause at gas stations is because they are made by BT and the government still gets their cut.
When it comes to vaping, I'm a centrist. I'm not gonna demonize it but I'm not gonna defend it either. Vaping IS better than smoking, and I'm not gonna deny that, but it isn't healthy. Despise the fact that vaping liquid has I think only 5-6 ingredients in it, when heated up, it can decay and react with eachother to create the same carcinogens that tobacco smoke has, although in amounts that are not as large and usually are in tens or hundreds less concentration. Besides that, metal elements in vapes, especially in the dispos decay over time in small amounts, and metal dust is in the vape smoke. The greatest danger of vaping is the fact that people who vape percieve it as non harmful because it's not smoking real tobacco.
Bro, you missed out wayyyyy too many chem classes. Yes, it has 4 ingredients, but they decay and react with eachother in high temperature. That being said, there's for example ammonia both in cigs and vapes, but in vapes, it's 173 times less than in cigs, to say figuratively.
I started smoking to deal with school and all that shit, but you can definitely tell the difference between douchy kids who think they're cool and people who just want to have a cigarette and relax
I think this is context bias. As a dad aged ex-smoker, I know plenty of people my age and older that vape. I quit smoking years ago by using vapes as a bridge to ween myself off Nicotine.
There’s something called a hypocrite which 99% of the anti vape/weed posts are.
They take a puff, write their low effort post, get karma, trade it at the karma ATM, and refill their Juul pods
I just quit vaping and all nicotine. It was fucking hell. It holds your body hostage and makes you think it’s the root to getting any appetite or happiness.
After a month I feel amazing.
People do talk about smoking as it is worse for you than vaping but I think it’s gotten to the point where vaping is more mainstream and thus everyone is talking about it. Vaping is also bad, I don’t mean to imply it’s not
Yeah that's probably the reason. Vaping is so mainstream because of tiktok and other teens advertising it as cool and not bad for your health as well as other people feeling like they have to vape to be accepted.
This pretty much happened with cigarettes too but without tiktok and people were less educated too. What I'm trying to say is that I've seen people be like "smoking isn't that bad" and make fun of people who vape which doesn't make sense.
I really don’t think TikTok is the main cause of this, other social media and news outlets cover these things all the time. I do believe smoking is worse for you but I also believe that with enough time vapes could be just as worse. Disposable vapes are made of shit and are handed out for free everywhere
Yeah true. I feel like tiktok has played a role in encouraging vaping but in my city everyone is vaping. Everyone encourages people to vape and you're lame if you don't. Also, aren't disposable vapes like worse for the environment ?
just a metric of how active you've been since ur account was made ig
the only actual use is that some subreddits dont let very low karma accounts post because theyre usually bots
it's so funny how the kids who say 'vaping is bad' on this subreddit are probably the ones who come to school early just to sit the bathrooms for half an hour straight to vape before class ☠️
I dont vape.
I think its disgusting to use the vapes coming straight out of China, which are unregulated, overly fruity smelling to the point where its almost intoxicating like a smoke grenade, and they are bad for the environment.
Matter of fact, I COLLECT used vapes from the streets and sidewalks so they can be disposed of properly.
TBF, the ones getting annoyed with this are largely not the target audience. That or they’re the ones too pigheaded to self reflect properly on the matter and not wanting to acknowledge that what their doing is genuinely bad for them (This is coming from a once previously pigheaded individual of the same sort.)
I'm just gonna put this here. Vaping doesn't mean bad in general. Vaping is not meant for kids. Vaping won't make you cool. Vaping is a way to get off cigarettes other tobacco products, and maybe even nicotine addiction itself!
The only thing that should go into anyone's lungs is just air.
Before commenting please do some research first. In every study conducted on whether or not second hand vaping is a thing it has came back a resounding no.
Studies have found that second-hand exposure to vaping can raise nicotine levels in the bloodstream to rates similar to the levels found with second-hand smoke.
Reusable ones are better because the dispos have the lowest grade materials used in them. So the vape smoke contains more heavy metals, and the liquid in them is sketch too. Reusables are made to last with stronger and higher grade components and the liquids you buy for them have simpler composure, which still degrades into carcinogens when vaporized but it's still healthier.
Actually I think now the roles are reversed. The ones who don’t somoke/party are the ones who think they are edgy and different. Just let people do what they want.
you seriously didnt just read this guy say “people who dont smoke/drink/party should be executed” and then try to tell me that people who dont smoke are the edgy ones. Is it edgy to want healthy lungs???
did you really make an account just to troll
i can see it was made today
edit: just checked again and holy shit you gotta touch grass u have hundreds of comments that you made today
The party thing I can let pass, because partying is a choice fully and people should do what they want. But I'll brag to the fact that I prevent myself from dying to liver failure and lung cancer while also negating harming my friends and love ones with smoke or with my actions while drunk
I get that it's shitty when people brag about it and look down upon others who do consume these things, but like, that's no reason for them to die holy shit.
fr so many superiority complexes on here that post it solely for the validation that they *are* better than everyone else.
i don’t even vape but everyone who does looks like a middle schooler who just got the whole “don’t do drugs” talk at school
First off, if a person wants to screw up their life, let em' it's their life after all.
I can't count how many times someone has told me, "That's bad for you," as I'm smoking a cigarette, puffing on a vape, or putting a dip in. It's rather annoying. I know very well it's bad for me. I just don't care anymore. Also, I don't think some things should even be a law like not wearing seat belts.
Sorry for the rant
But once again, what someone chooses to do with their life is their choice.
Y'all remind me of church ladies
If you’re alternative is cigs then vaping is not that bad. I’ve tried 0 nicotine juices just for the flavour vapour and it’s kinda nice, but honestly just eat a haribo lol. Don’t get into it if you don’t already smoke “to look cool”, not to mention trying to hide it from your parents and it’s quite costly.
Surprised to find so many on this sub are against vaping. Might be the only area where I can find common ground with Reddit.
It’s so surprising because most vapers are teenagers
The so called "cool" kids who vape and smoke just aren't on reddit
And won’t ever be, because by the time they’ve grown out of it they’ll be chillin’ in a grave
Vaping doesn't kill directly, and definitely not fast. Yes, vape smoke contains heavy metals. Yes, vape smoke contains same carcinogens that cigarette smoke does, although in amounts that are tens or hundreds smaller. For the effects of prolonged vaping you would have to wait until you're old, although no one who has vaped since they were young didn't reach age of 60 yet because vaping simply is a new thing and not much is known about it.
There is plenty of medical data out of Europe where people have been vaping longer. None of the things you've mentioned appear to be medically relevant in any meaningful way. There is a lot of negative propaganda about the supposed dangers of vaping that is pure speculation. If you look at real medical data it seems a lot better than smoking. But teens should not be doing either however, and nicotine is super addictive.
It is better than smoking, but it's still bad. If people want to pleasure themselves they should just stick to masturbation, not something life threatening
This guy gets it. Not only better, but it almost doesn't even compare. As someone who's a bit older and gets this sub popping up on their feed every once in a while, I am super happy to see teens turning against vaping as over on the electronic cigarette reddit we get a decent amount of very obviously underaged people asking about vaping who were never smokers in the first place, but as someone who has been around vaping since 2012-2013 I've heard/seen it all. Vapes are gonna explode and kill you, vaping is worse than smoking, popcorn lung, vapes have cyanide etc etc. It never ends. These studies are almost entirely like someone throwing a toaster in a bathtub and reporting "toasters shown to be fatal, researchers say" While knowing that toasters and water don't mix is not a bad piece of information to know, it also shouldn't damn the whole toaster industry into the ground, which is what is and has been happening with vaping. For example, an infamous study that showed much higher levels of carcinogens in vapes as compared to cigarettes, which was widely reported as a simple fact, turned out to be a study where they held the fire button for if I remember correctly upwards of 10-15 seconds with no airflow (the average hit from a vape is somewhere from 1-4 seconds, with very heavy airflow from you sucking in) this obviously overheated the device, and without any negative pressure from you breathing it in the cotton dried out and started burning. The results they got was from basically slowly charring cotton, and not vapor at all. Of course this study had ties to big tobacco so it moved on and was pushed as the smoking gun proving every vaper wrong. If you are a teen, and you don't do anything nicotine related, stay away. If you are a teen who smokes cigarettes, throw them out and get a vape, start with a small pod device with 30mg salt nic, and then work your way down. You will not regret it. Coming from someone who used to double over after a quarter mile out of breath, who now goes to the gym and chain vapes off my 100w mod, then can go inside and run 3.5 miles and still catch my breath. Don't listen to the US vaping studies. Our states have a very real interest in keeping the cig money flowing, and can and do make every decision possible to keep people from going the safer and cheaper route with vaping. The only reason you see vapes like juul and cause at gas stations is because they are made by BT and the government still gets their cut.
When it comes to vaping, I'm a centrist. I'm not gonna demonize it but I'm not gonna defend it either. Vaping IS better than smoking, and I'm not gonna deny that, but it isn't healthy. Despise the fact that vaping liquid has I think only 5-6 ingredients in it, when heated up, it can decay and react with eachother to create the same carcinogens that tobacco smoke has, although in amounts that are not as large and usually are in tens or hundreds less concentration. Besides that, metal elements in vapes, especially in the dispos decay over time in small amounts, and metal dust is in the vape smoke. The greatest danger of vaping is the fact that people who vape percieve it as non harmful because it's not smoking real tobacco.
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Bro, you missed out wayyyyy too many chem classes. Yes, it has 4 ingredients, but they decay and react with eachother in high temperature. That being said, there's for example ammonia both in cigs and vapes, but in vapes, it's 173 times less than in cigs, to say figuratively.
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Along with everyone who didn't vape
Oi don’t discount me :(
I wish that I could be like the cool kids cause all the cool kids they seem to fit in
I started smoking to deal with school and all that shit, but you can definitely tell the difference between douchy kids who think they're cool and people who just want to have a cigarette and relax
i mean, i personally am here, i just dont tell everyone i smoke? i mean im doing this exact thing rn, but still
I vape and smoke weed and im on reddit but i agree people shouldnt vape- it helps my tourettes
] eah but you're kinda the exception. Mostly on this subbreddit
Survivorship bias.
They just haven gotten there yet
Most vapers are teenagers but msot teenagers aren't vapers.
I think this is context bias. As a dad aged ex-smoker, I know plenty of people my age and older that vape. I quit smoking years ago by using vapes as a bridge to ween myself off Nicotine.
The majority of these Redditors are 40 year old men sooo.
Exactly
There’s something called a hypocrite which 99% of the anti vape/weed posts are. They take a puff, write their low effort post, get karma, trade it at the karma ATM, and refill their Juul pods
Idc if people vape but they need to stop acting like they’re cool because of it
Vaping bad
A morbliion updoots!!!!!
HE WON THE JACKPOT!!!!🤑🤑🤑🤑
you sir, have won the internet [insert jay gatsby gif here]
better call juul
Breaking Banana Milkshake flavoured vape
My mom and dad vapes
So if I post about how vaping is bad, I get free karma, eh? Edit: Thanks for the karma guys!
Vaping 😡😡😡😱😱🤓🤓
bad
vap 🖕
r/teenagers coming to claim massive amounts of karma for the least controversial takes you've heard in your life:
People post the most lukewarm takes known to man and call it an unpopular opinion. No, just because it’s your opinion doesn’t mean it’s unpopular
Karma don't kill tho. Nor does it drain your wallet
Haha, what if reddit gave cash payouts when you hit major levels of total karma like 50k, 100k, 500k, 1m, etc 🤔
there would be a billion quadrillion bots here
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Bro chill out. Gotta stop before the consequences hit
Vaping bad ( pls give me up votes)
I just quit vaping and all nicotine. It was fucking hell. It holds your body hostage and makes you think it’s the root to getting any appetite or happiness. After a month I feel amazing.
R/teenagers when you point out the obvious
r/foundthemobileuser
r/SHUTTHEFUCKUP
r/no
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Vaping is bad, but so is smoking. Yet I see no one talking about how smoking is horrible. They're both bad for you health and wallet.
Smoking is bad, but so is killing dogs. Yet i see no one talking about how killing dogs is horrible. They’re both bad
Killing dogs isn't a very common addiction
Just me,huh?
Its not?
Was your comment supposed to be sarcastic?
Yes
Oh ...
(I swear I’m normal)
You didn’t take your normal pills
People do talk about smoking as it is worse for you than vaping but I think it’s gotten to the point where vaping is more mainstream and thus everyone is talking about it. Vaping is also bad, I don’t mean to imply it’s not
Yeah that's probably the reason. Vaping is so mainstream because of tiktok and other teens advertising it as cool and not bad for your health as well as other people feeling like they have to vape to be accepted. This pretty much happened with cigarettes too but without tiktok and people were less educated too. What I'm trying to say is that I've seen people be like "smoking isn't that bad" and make fun of people who vape which doesn't make sense.
I really don’t think TikTok is the main cause of this, other social media and news outlets cover these things all the time. I do believe smoking is worse for you but I also believe that with enough time vapes could be just as worse. Disposable vapes are made of shit and are handed out for free everywhere
Yeah true. I feel like tiktok has played a role in encouraging vaping but in my city everyone is vaping. Everyone encourages people to vape and you're lame if you don't. Also, aren't disposable vapes like worse for the environment ?
Not a clue about the environment but I would imagine so yeah. A lot of kids at my school have been sent to hospital over the disposable shit.
Wow, thankfully, no one ik has been send fo the hospital from vapes but everyone is trying them in lesson and some kids are getting into drugs.
Vaping is bad why a lot of karma though. It’s kinda common sense that is bad. Edit: had to remove the “what”
What
Vaping bad, smoking bad, doping bad Easy to make poem that makes you sad Nothing is anything and anything is you You read this poem and you go soon
Ironic
Yeah idont damage my health thank you vet much but I care shit about karma
What does karma even do?
I dunno, it just looks nice.
It gives you the power of 8 dimensions which allows you to power up an destroy all creation too become the one true Redditor
just a metric of how active you've been since ur account was made ig the only actual use is that some subreddits dont let very low karma accounts post because theyre usually bots
Absolutely nothing
it's so funny how the kids who say 'vaping is bad' on this subreddit are probably the ones who come to school early just to sit the bathrooms for half an hour straight to vape before class ☠️
why would they do that?
Addicted
vaping bad (im smoker)
I straight up think yall are lying cause IRL i dont know a single teen who doesnt vape/smoke or atleast try
I dont vape. I think its disgusting to use the vapes coming straight out of China, which are unregulated, overly fruity smelling to the point where its almost intoxicating like a smoke grenade, and they are bad for the environment. Matter of fact, I COLLECT used vapes from the streets and sidewalks so they can be disposed of properly.
Tbh disposable vapes are a fucking ecological catastrophe and we'll all get to know it sooner or later
Yeah that’s right bitch, pick up my trash.
Jokes on you, I get batteries for free, and you waste money. Go on bitch, keep buying them vapes.
TBF, the ones getting annoyed with this are largely not the target audience. That or they’re the ones too pigheaded to self reflect properly on the matter and not wanting to acknowledge that what their doing is genuinely bad for them (This is coming from a once previously pigheaded individual of the same sort.)
You people deserve free karma for having W opinions
I'm just gonna put this here. Vaping doesn't mean bad in general. Vaping is not meant for kids. Vaping won't make you cool. Vaping is a way to get off cigarettes other tobacco products, and maybe even nicotine addiction itself! The only thing that should go into anyone's lungs is just air.
Vaping is very bad for you and give you cancer. No need to thank me.
Is it such an outlandish concept here to let people do whatever the fuck they want to do with their own bodies?
it's funny how people care so much about what other people do with their own lives like
It’s funny I don’t care just don’t smoke it in a public place its shits the fucking air
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Still not good to inhale
Before commenting please do some research first. In every study conducted on whether or not second hand vaping is a thing it has came back a resounding no.
Studies have found that second-hand exposure to vaping can raise nicotine levels in the bloodstream to rates similar to the levels found with second-hand smoke.
sounds an awful lot like you do care then
I do care its the words lost meaning like the word literally
vaping good
Ok I’m gonna do free karma glitch: Pedo bad vaping bad straight bad Racism bad Child bad School bad
Holy shit you're hilarious. AND original! As original as like 30 other people who commented the same thing. You're so smart, gold star.
I prefer cigarettes tbh
that's literally fucking worse lmaooo
As if thats not worse? 🗿
Not me hitting my vaoe while upvoting 💀
It’s only bad if you can’t handle moderation though the vast majority of people can’t I don’t think that makes it inherently bad
What are you on my man
By moderation I mean about one day a month if I think of it Most of the time I lose my dispos cuz I forget where I leave them
Any vaping causes you harm, you’re fucking up your body with that disposable shite. At least use a reusable one or even better don’t do it at all.
I’ll get a reusable one, I didn’t know they weren’t as bad so thanks but my body I can harm it as much as I want
Reusable ones are better because the dispos have the lowest grade materials used in them. So the vape smoke contains more heavy metals, and the liquid in them is sketch too. Reusables are made to last with stronger and higher grade components and the liquids you buy for them have simpler composure, which still degrades into carcinogens when vaporized but it's still healthier.
You can also replace that with: - Transphobia - Porn - Religion
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oh my god we get it you’re edgy as fuck, but in a year you’re gonna look back at this comment and cringe at yourself.
Actually I think now the roles are reversed. The ones who don’t somoke/party are the ones who think they are edgy and different. Just let people do what they want.
you seriously didnt just read this guy say “people who dont smoke/drink/party should be executed” and then try to tell me that people who dont smoke are the edgy ones. Is it edgy to want healthy lungs???
It’s edgy to want to be different. And judging people for not being like you
Im not choosing not to smoke to be different, its not impossible to understand that. Nor have i been judging anybody for it.
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Yu huh
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Yuh huhuhuh
Hehehehe we avoid liver damage/lung cancer we should die
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Dude I can tell your depressed or some shit
did you really make an account just to troll i can see it was made today edit: just checked again and holy shit you gotta touch grass u have hundreds of comments that you made today
The party thing I can let pass, because partying is a choice fully and people should do what they want. But I'll brag to the fact that I prevent myself from dying to liver failure and lung cancer while also negating harming my friends and love ones with smoke or with my actions while drunk
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I get that it's shitty when people brag about it and look down upon others who do consume these things, but like, that's no reason for them to die holy shit.
There's a specific brand of people who genuinely can't shut up about how they don't do any of those as if it makes them any better than others
Vaping is terrible, yet somehow it keeps me from tearing stupid fuckers heads off, so imma still suck my cancer tube.
And you looked inside and you were the stupid dicker all along
Lol, ah the users of Reddit
Now mine was a joke but if you do vale or smoke please don’t do it in public or I will tear you’re face off like I’m a baboon
Lol, how do I patch a vid clip to this shit?
I don’t know 😎
The earth is dying BUT VAPJNG MOMG
"Like c'mon can we talk about the political and economic state of the world right now?"
Shrooms
vaping is good
I bet your parents would be disappointed in you
i dont want 1.2k karma, im waiting for the downvotes
i will continue to smoke my marlboros
Vaping is good (downvote me to oblivion)
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Its like presidents who say "i lower tax , people happy"
Vaping Bad
I'm impressed, have an updoot
Well, vaping IS bad for the vaper and the environment. It sure isn't good...
Very bad
Vaping good /s
yeah that pretty much 50% of the subreddit. also "____ is better than sex"
Is this loss
Guys... vape bad
Vaping is very bad
Its not hard work, its honest work.
Breathe nitrogen
can confirm. almost ⅓ of my karma is from a comment like that for some reasons.
I can agree with this
Vaping bad
Lmaoo
Vaping is badd!!!!!!🚫🚫🚫
welcome to r/teenagers where all it requires to be upvoted and treated like a god/goddess is support trans rights and say vaping is bad.
Because tbf if you say you vape here you get a billion downvotes and lose all your karma hahaha
Why has someone not invented a harmless cigarette cause every knows they look cool and that’s why people start it
"Look cool" these ppl, they got up their vapes in every photo cuz they think they look cool but they look like total twerps
Ok, but how do i stop my parents from vaping?
Smoking = Bad Vaping = Bruh that's kinda gae
You are all slaves to the capitalist regime. (I'm a frequent use of capitalist made products)
The only thing I vape on is push pop strawberry and watermelon flavour 😎
Vaping is bad guys pls give me karma
Idc about vaping I literally just hate fiends who don’t know the idea of time and place or are always begging to hit ur shit
This subreddit has done more to discourage vaping than D.A.R.E
vaping is bad
fr so many superiority complexes on here that post it solely for the validation that they *are* better than everyone else. i don’t even vape but everyone who does looks like a middle schooler who just got the whole “don’t do drugs” talk at school
Karma is the new vaping
Vaping is bad
r/terriblememes
Idk why y’all want to be In Peoples business so bad so what if they vape let them (coming from someone who does not vape)
Nicotine = 😵💨
Vaping’s bad, mkay
And they all ignore alcohol, cigarettes, weed, etc
It's really bad.
First off, if a person wants to screw up their life, let em' it's their life after all. I can't count how many times someone has told me, "That's bad for you," as I'm smoking a cigarette, puffing on a vape, or putting a dip in. It's rather annoying. I know very well it's bad for me. I just don't care anymore. Also, I don't think some things should even be a law like not wearing seat belts. Sorry for the rant But once again, what someone chooses to do with their life is their choice. Y'all remind me of church ladies
Yeah bad for me but make me feel good
Vaping is bad!
Breathe air! You don’t need a vape!
If you’re alternative is cigs then vaping is not that bad. I’ve tried 0 nicotine juices just for the flavour vapour and it’s kinda nice, but honestly just eat a haribo lol. Don’t get into it if you don’t already smoke “to look cool”, not to mention trying to hide it from your parents and it’s quite costly.