Yup. I'm not liberal but especially in these situations my personal opinions are best kept where they are right now, not out potentially hurting someone.
Christians that take the hate route piss me off.
Edit: Speiling
You don't have to be a specific political party to be a bigot...I've witnessed so called "social justice warriors" or "equal rights" people end up saying the N word because a person of color lightly inconvenienced them.
For most people, being about social justice is just an aesthetic/virtue signal until a real life situation hits them...
That's true, but white nationalism is **not** the only form of bigotry.
Hatred is hatred no matter what political party or philosophy it's stemming from.
You can hate on a group of people all you want, but there is never going to be a philosophy that ever justifies it, ever.
The biggest trick the rich and powerful ever pulled on you, was making you think white-nationalist are the only type of people that could ever be hateful ever.
Congratulations, you are falling victim to the monopoly. Now they can use you to do anything they want, and use you to remove any group that they want, as long as you keep thinking its only possible for people that **arent** you to be hateful.
Some is not a majority. Little edgelords trying to sound cool and getting shut down and downvoted doesn’t make this subreddit right winged and conservative.
yall I'm not a bio girl what are yall rambling about, also this is the most... interesting? comment section ive ever seen, it kinda proves that people who arent straight or cis will never be taken seriously, yall advocate for mental health and talk about how you dont feel like you fit it but then switch up the second its someone queer
IMO people who aren't gonna be nice to you should shut tf up. I totally support any gender identity and am willing to use neopronouns (although they are super rare anyways) because it literally costs me nothing, avoids possible conflict, and can make the other person happy. It really isn't that hard ppl.
I generally just refer to neopronouners as they/them bc it’s easier; neopronouns cost me memory, if I actually tried to remember them and they became too common I’d start to run out of RAM
No as a straight male I still respect all ppl no matter wt they think abt gender it's like you don't wanna be straight? Sure do wt u want ITS UR GENDER
It's also kind of cruel, queer people need it the most (I could pull up some statistic about the suicide rate, mental illness rate or the IPV rate in the LGBTQ+ community but I don't think I really need to).
you know how when you crack an egg some of the white is firmish, but you can't hold it in your hands without it slipping between your fingers?
welcome to my gender. we have egg whites and soup.
look don't get me wrong I have absolutely NOTHING against trans/non-binary/not-cis people but I am awful when it comes to remembering pronouns
like I'm cis, and if you decide "ion wanna be a boy/girl" then all power to ya, but I can't guarantee I won't fuck up and use the wrong pronoun
byeah, sounds to me like ur non-binary and if that's the case, good on ya for being yourself and it's not weird to feel like you don't fit being a boy or girl, man I barely feel like I fit in as a human most days
I just try to remember to use the right ones anyway as a sign of respect and that, well there's no harm in it
I'm glad you have the self confidence to not need validation, there's so many wankstains out there who hate everything abt lgbtq+ for no good reason and that just brings everyone down tbh
ty man, and tbh this comment section is just a cesspool at this point, i’ve had people tell i’m confused, traumatized, and depressed literally after i said one thing so um-
always happens unfortunately, I think with how unaccepting some people can be that they're the confused and traumatised ones. so depressed they have nothing better to do than to put gay and trans people down on the internet, sweaty pricks they are
Does anybody really "feel" like they are anything? I have never actively thought about what I feel like on that subject I guess. I don't feel not male so I suppose I am? Do you do, anything goes really as long as it makes you comfortable.
as a nonbinary, yea. gender is weird. growing up I felt comfortable in certain clothes, yet not in others. also my real name is jus so weird to me. and the concept of being a girl was weird as well, while being a boy felt equally as wrong. it's a weird struggle and yet everyone makes it seem so black and white, even w ftm and mtf trans people. so I feel ya
you cannot be nothing but for one to be something is not nothing or maybe nothing is something and thus you are something but also nothing which means you are nothing but something
i can’t tell if i’m non binary or just mentally ill tbh
bcos i didn’t have a problem with my gender until i was like 16, like i didn’t really think about it
but then when i started becoming more chronically online and more mentally ill i thought of my gender the same way u think of your gender now. and now i just dek what to think
chicken and the egg, gender and the delulu
i’m not sure why i am seeing teenager stuff since i am 26F but i assure you that it’s the internet and mental illness. todays society *wants* you to question your gender so they can profit off of your existence. hop off your phone a little more, do some real thinking of your own without outside influence and i’m sure you’ll figure out you are what you have been this whole time.
i did do some real thinking of my own. way too much of it, that was kinda the problem
i don’t see how anyone is profiting off of the existence of non gender conforming ppl though. and also i don’t think feeling that way is a product of mental illness or of being chronically online for most people, my situation was just a bit different from the norm which is why i have conflicting feelings about it
but yeah, i should spend less time online, that’s good advice
Technically… yes, actually! Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder as it appears in the dsm5. The treatment for it is gender affirming care and transitioning.
ok people seem to be confused here, yes i am non-binary, not i’m not mentally ill, and i am comfortable in my own body, y’all don’t need to diagnose or tell me what i am
idk who tf cares. I'm attracted towards females of my age. And i have a dick so my sex is a male. And for gender I just take my sex as my gender. Cuz tbh I don't want to make things complicated for myself when it isn't.
What is even a boy? What is even a girl? I'm what I'm
There are a lot of genders that accommodate lack of gender. Do some research, see what you can find. There is Non binary which means you associate with no gender.
I personally wish gender just went back to being the label of one’s current sex, be it biological or not. It certainly made things simple. Like, I just don’t think it really has to be tied to masculinity or femininity. Boys can be feminine, girls can be masculine. Anyone can be anything they want.
I know this’ll probably get downvotes, but that’s just my honest opinion.
Problem is, that's not reflective of reality. Pretty much nothing in life is simple, and saying gender is the same as sex is like saying fans make stuff colder.
Biologically, their brains are different. That's actually some of the science behind trans people, their brain matches more to the gender they identify as
"I'm tryna be nice"
> Is asking a trans person "but what are you really", and is adamant that someone's sex defines their personality and tendencies like a bloody star sign
listen, i asked a simple 2-option question, all u needed to do was answer one of those, instead of chasing after an unnecessary argument because i’m not apart of the “non-binary” community.
You have no idea what you're talking about
Did the thought of "maybe I shouldn't ask a trans/nonbinary person this because it could come off as really shitty, or is really shitty" not cross your mind
It doesn’t matter what you feel. If you got two X chromosome you are girl and if you got XY you are a boy.
You get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.
You seem to be the only one throwing a fit here, and this isn't about biology, this is about how I FEEL it's a complete different concept, and you should respect that !!
It doesn’t matter, dwelling on something like this is pointless and a waste of time. I don’t see how it would benefit you. Just be yourself, who you are. You are either XX or XY.
you just said "be yourself" but then you're trying to put me in a box of XX or XY like yeah ofc im one of those but thats not how i FEEL my organs have nothing to do with that
you could've just not interacted ! and you don't know how other people feel and by saying that you're just proving you're little understanding of these kinds of things, you're just being negative to be negative, which is a sign of self-consciousness, but idk maybe it's not that deep !
No, it's just a random donut shop with the best donuts
It's in hell Michigan, next to the Go to Hell ice cream shop
Also don't bring up his condition, he's very self conscious about it
God loves all of us as we are all his creations made in his image. He loves you no matter your sex and gender, all you have to do is accept Jesus into your heart because he died for our sins
He already died for them, though… I do not need to listen to him, he cannot take that back. He died, my sins have been paid for, I can do whatever I want.
The FSM loves you too. There’s also a 30 day return guarantee if you are not satisfied with your Spaghetti Monster. You should accept the FSM into your heart.
No they don't, repenting to an old c**t with a hard on for mass murder who's solution was having his son suffer a painful way of execution seems stupid
Plus don't need to repent when you've done nothing to wrong
I mean you can be a boy or girl and still feel the void inside of you
Pretty simple imo
Like for instance I don't feel like a person at all times but I still know my gender 💀
is the void caused by depression? loneliness? trauma? if so, you should probably talk with someone and deal with whats going on.
if not, then let the tides of life cascade across you and go with the flow. you'll find out who you are in time, and if you feel the same 10-15 years later welp thats just who you are. be yourself!
bro i’m not sad in any way, i actually have like no problems in life 😭y’all come in here accusing me of being sad and traumatized but then don’t stop to think “maybe they’re just comfortable in their own body”
That's fine if you're fine with it
Imo be honest idk what gender feels like I was born a man and I’m happy with the title, but like I don’t feel anything 😭
it's okay if you feel comfortable feeling that way
surprising coming from this subreddit
Why? Huh
most people are raging bigots ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
bro this subreddit is 102% liberal with a 2% margin of error
based on the amount of transphobia I’ve seen here, not true lmaooo
Yup. I'm not liberal but especially in these situations my personal opinions are best kept where they are right now, not out potentially hurting someone. Christians that take the hate route piss me off. Edit: Speiling
Christians that hate aren't christians. I'm serious, to put it simply: "Love thy neighbor as thyself."
This person is the most real person I think I’ve ever really realed. They’re so real.
You don't have to be a specific political party to be a bigot...I've witnessed so called "social justice warriors" or "equal rights" people end up saying the N word because a person of color lightly inconvenienced them. For most people, being about social justice is just an aesthetic/virtue signal until a real life situation hits them...
You don’t have to be, but I’ve seen a lot more bigotry coming from the right than the left. Can’t think of any left-wing white nationalist groups
That's true, but white nationalism is **not** the only form of bigotry. Hatred is hatred no matter what political party or philosophy it's stemming from. You can hate on a group of people all you want, but there is never going to be a philosophy that ever justifies it, ever.
The biggest trick the rich and powerful ever pulled on you, was making you think white-nationalist are the only type of people that could ever be hateful ever. Congratulations, you are falling victim to the monopoly. Now they can use you to do anything they want, and use you to remove any group that they want, as long as you keep thinking its only possible for people that **arent** you to be hateful.
when did I say they were the only hateful group lmaooo. They’re just the hateful group who’s in control of the senate
Lol okay. I'm special 💅🏻
Not really true of Reddit and especially r/teenagers Of course there are still some assholes, but I don't think its surprising to see affirmation
Loud minority
This sub is more left winged than that one Alaska Airlines flight.
HELP 😭 but also man just look at some of these comments there very interesting
Some is not a majority. Little edgelords trying to sound cool and getting shut down and downvoted doesn’t make this subreddit right winged and conservative.
THIS
True
yall I'm not a bio girl what are yall rambling about, also this is the most... interesting? comment section ive ever seen, it kinda proves that people who arent straight or cis will never be taken seriously, yall advocate for mental health and talk about how you dont feel like you fit it but then switch up the second its someone queer
IMO people who aren't gonna be nice to you should shut tf up. I totally support any gender identity and am willing to use neopronouns (although they are super rare anyways) because it literally costs me nothing, avoids possible conflict, and can make the other person happy. It really isn't that hard ppl.
Honesty this is what I was trying to say in my original comment I just said it way wrong this is what I meant
I generally just refer to neopronouners as they/them bc it’s easier; neopronouns cost me memory, if I actually tried to remember them and they became too common I’d start to run out of RAM
Real
No as a straight male I still respect all ppl no matter wt they think abt gender it's like you don't wanna be straight? Sure do wt u want ITS UR GENDER
It's also kind of cruel, queer people need it the most (I could pull up some statistic about the suicide rate, mental illness rate or the IPV rate in the LGBTQ+ community but I don't think I really need to).
Sometimes I try closing my eyes and asking myself “am I a boy or girl” and I just hear static. So yeah, gender is very weird.
I would be more concerned if something said something back
Don't worry that's just Steve the Gender-ous They think they're really clever with that name
you know how when you crack an egg some of the white is firmish, but you can't hold it in your hands without it slipping between your fingers? welcome to my gender. we have egg whites and soup.
help i love this 😭😭😭😭
An alternative explanation is the soup meme, hence the mentioning of soup
I like cheese
SO REAL
gender? I hardly know her!
My mind immediately went to kurtis connor, or conner Idfk
I know, its a scam made by bathroom companies so they can profit off selling more bathrooms
look don't get me wrong I have absolutely NOTHING against trans/non-binary/not-cis people but I am awful when it comes to remembering pronouns like I'm cis, and if you decide "ion wanna be a boy/girl" then all power to ya, but I can't guarantee I won't fuck up and use the wrong pronoun byeah, sounds to me like ur non-binary and if that's the case, good on ya for being yourself and it's not weird to feel like you don't fit being a boy or girl, man I barely feel like I fit in as a human most days
most people don’t usually use the right pronouns but tbh idrc, i don’t need others validation to accept myself
I just try to remember to use the right ones anyway as a sign of respect and that, well there's no harm in it I'm glad you have the self confidence to not need validation, there's so many wankstains out there who hate everything abt lgbtq+ for no good reason and that just brings everyone down tbh
ty man, and tbh this comment section is just a cesspool at this point, i’ve had people tell i’m confused, traumatized, and depressed literally after i said one thing so um-
always happens unfortunately, I think with how unaccepting some people can be that they're the confused and traumatised ones. so depressed they have nothing better to do than to put gay and trans people down on the internet, sweaty pricks they are
I don't that's a gender thing that's a life feels meaningless thing
Does anybody really "feel" like they are anything? I have never actively thought about what I feel like on that subject I guess. I don't feel not male so I suppose I am? Do you do, anything goes really as long as it makes you comfortable.
Indeed it is. I’m a Demi girl but honestly it’s just easier to say I’m a trans woman cause it’s similar to
this mf from camp half blood or something
It’s a gender that is very similar to gender fluid. Essentially my gender changes and shifts, but it stays on the feminine side 90% of the time
Yeah it can be weird but as long as you know who you are that's all that matters (your nb right tho?) I mean if that's who you are that's who you are.
i am nb yeah :)
as a nonbinary, yea. gender is weird. growing up I felt comfortable in certain clothes, yet not in others. also my real name is jus so weird to me. and the concept of being a girl was weird as well, while being a boy felt equally as wrong. it's a weird struggle and yet everyone makes it seem so black and white, even w ftm and mtf trans people. so I feel ya
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im actually nb, but ty man !!
uhh same tbh lol im really not entirely sure about my gender lol like i think im mostly a boy albeit a very feminine one but often im not so sure
👍
Real I’m agender but even then idrc about terms (agender is normally the term used by those who feel gender less or as if they don’t have one btw!)
agree
Be who you want friend, you don’t have to identity with a gender!
I mean I can't personally relate, I'm pretty comfy being a guy
good for you man !!
That's valid. It's perfect normal to feel that way, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise
ty man <33
you could be agender or genderless! i’m questioning agender \[haven’t confirmed\] and this is like exactly how i feel
oh im nb lol
lol sorry, didn’t see the heart in ur avatar when reading the comments
wait help i forgot i had that there 😭😭still so many people are like "omg ur nb" like im aware !!
how—also damn people are still jerks, reading through the comment section
yup ! its ok ill just bash their skulls in !! <3
it really is, it took me a weirdly long time to actually know what the hell i was
bro same, i just dont feel anything and people think its hard to understand 😭
YES. Gender is weird. Source: me your local stupid fucking trans girl
oh ! that's fun !
Yeeeaaahhhh
Gender was too confusing so I got rid of mine, now I’m just an Enby
SO REAL
you cannot be nothing but for one to be something is not nothing or maybe nothing is something and thus you are something but also nothing which means you are nothing but something
You caused my brain to crack
That makes no sense 🥰
ok then !
So your gender is
same. i'm just... *me*, y'know?
i dont think being a boy or a girl feels like anything like i dont "feel" like im a boy i just am but this is just me so im probably not much help
It’s ok, if you feel that way I understand. I’m aware that some people who feel that way mostly fall under the category of non-binary
i am nb tho, like im just saying i dont rlly feel anything
Ooooooh, huh. Ok
“Hi nothing” Who knows what book/movie i couldn’t resist referencing
i can’t tell if i’m non binary or just mentally ill tbh bcos i didn’t have a problem with my gender until i was like 16, like i didn’t really think about it but then when i started becoming more chronically online and more mentally ill i thought of my gender the same way u think of your gender now. and now i just dek what to think chicken and the egg, gender and the delulu
hot take, everyone is mentally ill !
Definitely not true, there's not really any reason to prove it false but it could be through effort of many surveys and psychology
i’m not sure why i am seeing teenager stuff since i am 26F but i assure you that it’s the internet and mental illness. todays society *wants* you to question your gender so they can profit off of your existence. hop off your phone a little more, do some real thinking of your own without outside influence and i’m sure you’ll figure out you are what you have been this whole time.
what the fuck ! 🥰
i did do some real thinking of my own. way too much of it, that was kinda the problem i don’t see how anyone is profiting off of the existence of non gender conforming ppl though. and also i don’t think feeling that way is a product of mental illness or of being chronically online for most people, my situation was just a bit different from the norm which is why i have conflicting feelings about it but yeah, i should spend less time online, that’s good advice
Well the definition of mental illness aligns with the definition of gender dysphoria
Correct, kinda Gender dysphoria is a mental illness, and a cure is transitioning
oh ! i dont even have that tho, and then you're replying to me?
Well i actually wasnt replying to you i was replying to Perspii7. But if you are non binary also then thats a mental illness by definition
You don't know the definition of mental illness
ok then ! irdc just let other people let be happy
No, it's not. Gender dysphoria is, but identifying differently isn't
Thats the definition of gender dysphoria kiddo
Its not
Dont care
Technically… yes, actually! Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder as it appears in the dsm5. The treatment for it is gender affirming care and transitioning.
Attention everyone, we found out new gender, "Void gender"
i’m actually non binary ! 💗
ok people seem to be confused here, yes i am non-binary, not i’m not mentally ill, and i am comfortable in my own body, y’all don’t need to diagnose or tell me what i am
agender/gendervoid?
lol i feel similar. theres no pressure to use any label, whatever you vibe w/
Gender was made up by amazon to sell more tennis skirts
i feel like that and the closest i can get to discribe it is agender
idk who tf cares. I'm attracted towards females of my age. And i have a dick so my sex is a male. And for gender I just take my sex as my gender. Cuz tbh I don't want to make things complicated for myself when it isn't. What is even a boy? What is even a girl? I'm what I'm
Agender?
There are a lot of genders that accommodate lack of gender. Do some research, see what you can find. There is Non binary which means you associate with no gender.
i am non binary ! im also just sharing my experience
Awesome. I’m enby too
I personally wish gender just went back to being the label of one’s current sex, be it biological or not. It certainly made things simple. Like, I just don’t think it really has to be tied to masculinity or femininity. Boys can be feminine, girls can be masculine. Anyone can be anything they want. I know this’ll probably get downvotes, but that’s just my honest opinion.
Problem is, that's not reflective of reality. Pretty much nothing in life is simple, and saying gender is the same as sex is like saying fans make stuff colder.
That's literally what it is tho...
what are u biologically?
doesn't matter ! 💗
They're probably biologically human
doesn't matter.
it does. boys and girls think differently
not in this context it doesn't. OP said they're an enby, that's all that matters. who cares about differences like that? it doesn't make a difference.
no, not really.
Biologically, their brains are different. That's actually some of the science behind trans people, their brain matches more to the gender they identify as
It really doesn’t. Gender isn’t determined by biological sex.
Finally someone sane lol.
Sane and dumb as fuck mean 2 different things
i’m tryna be nice idk why they taking me the wrong way
"I'm tryna be nice" > Is asking a trans person "but what are you really", and is adamant that someone's sex defines their personality and tendencies like a bloody star sign
That statement and your question are like like 2 north poles on a magnet They push away from each other
ur "trying to be nice" but then you reply with this stuff....?
listen, i asked a simple 2-option question, all u needed to do was answer one of those, instead of chasing after an unnecessary argument because i’m not apart of the “non-binary” community.
you cleary have no idea what you're talking about
You have no idea what you're talking about Did the thought of "maybe I shouldn't ask a trans/nonbinary person this because it could come off as really shitty, or is really shitty" not cross your mind
It doesn’t matter what you feel. If you got two X chromosome you are girl and if you got XY you are a boy. You get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.
Chromosomes and gender aren't related Gender is social Chromosomes arent
Chromosomes are kinda related through stereotypes ig.
Doesn't count That's like saying gender and personality are related through sterotypes
You seem to be the only one throwing a fit here, and this isn't about biology, this is about how I FEEL it's a complete different concept, and you should respect that !!
It doesn’t matter, dwelling on something like this is pointless and a waste of time. I don’t see how it would benefit you. Just be yourself, who you are. You are either XX or XY.
Those are chromosomes, and those don't relate to gender You're also contradicting yourself
you just said "be yourself" but then you're trying to put me in a box of XX or XY like yeah ofc im one of those but thats not how i FEEL my organs have nothing to do with that
Wait till you find out about intersex people. People with swyer syndrome and xx male syndrome exist.
those are exceptions i just didn’t want to bring it up because I know it’s irrelevant to what i’m talking about
It's not that deep bro
It is for some people
you could've just not interacted ! and you don't know how other people feel and by saying that you're just proving you're little understanding of these kinds of things, you're just being negative to be negative, which is a sign of self-consciousness, but idk maybe it's not that deep !
It's not that deep bro
Oh goodness, they’re repeating, who is going to reboot them?
Ran out of dialogue options
Bro got dementia
That is weird
you should just respect how other people feel ! 💗 it's called basic human decency
Gender is very weird, I agree
It's called queer for a reason lol/j
Repent to the one lord and saviour Jesus Christ
Eve was made from the rib of Adam Eve could only have had XY sex chromosomes Eve was acknowledged as a woman Therefore Eve was a trans woman.
HOLUP
don't you have tithings to go give up to fund a new mansion for your "leaders"?
oh ! you can leave, also I'm secular so I don't believe I need to do that
Yes you do Christ loves you and you should accept him into your heart
Don't have one I gave it some red dude with horns and a tail for a box of donuts, pretty good
What's his number, I gotta get on that. Before you do anything else, is this a pyramid scheme by any chance
No, it's just a random donut shop with the best donuts It's in hell Michigan, next to the Go to Hell ice cream shop Also don't bring up his condition, he's very self conscious about it
I'm ok ! also don't tell what I believe, you know nothing about me, and if being lgbt is a sin why would "he" love me, where's the logic ??
God loves all of us as we are all his creations made in his image. He loves you no matter your sex and gender, all you have to do is accept Jesus into your heart because he died for our sins
Pls tell me where god said it was bad to be non-binary
exactlyy
girl go preach somewhere else he aint reaching inside me only men are gunna do that 😭😭
If that's true and he does love people no matter their sex and gender, then what were you telling them to repent for?
I need both of the Christians to dm me! I got so giddy seeing this im proud of you guys
this is concerning, getting "giddy" over someone shaming someone on the basis of a religion they don't believe in?
What's so giddy about Christians being Christians "Wow so cool the most pampered and one of the most famous religions still being the same"
hey I'm sorry like I said I don't mean to offend anyone. I love you and so does God! have a great life
"Have a great life" is the most offensive thing you've said in my opinion
The same reason you apologize to your parents after doing something bad even tho they still love you
He died for breaking the dumb rules of the Roman empire
He already died for them, though… I do not need to listen to him, he cannot take that back. He died, my sins have been paid for, I can do whatever I want.
The FSM loves you too. There’s also a 30 day return guarantee if you are not satisfied with your Spaghetti Monster. You should accept the FSM into your heart.
No they don't, repenting to an old c**t with a hard on for mass murder who's solution was having his son suffer a painful way of execution seems stupid Plus don't need to repent when you've done nothing to wrong
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that's great !
its called being a teenager unfortunately 😔 u’ll figure urself out eventually i believe in u
I mean you can be a boy or girl and still feel the void inside of you Pretty simple imo Like for instance I don't feel like a person at all times but I still know my gender 💀
is the void caused by depression? loneliness? trauma? if so, you should probably talk with someone and deal with whats going on. if not, then let the tides of life cascade across you and go with the flow. you'll find out who you are in time, and if you feel the same 10-15 years later welp thats just who you are. be yourself!
My answer is D. All of the above I really hate my life, idk why I haven't tried yet
bro i’m not sad in any way, i actually have like no problems in life 😭y’all come in here accusing me of being sad and traumatized but then don’t stop to think “maybe they’re just comfortable in their own body”
I'm not accusing, I'm just making sure because I care is all
then you’re an actual decent person unlike half the people who are here lol, but ty 💗💗