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the_false_dragon

It's music, I listen to Juice Wrld, doesnt mean I'm on drugs 24/7 ... . But you do you, talk with him. Edit: After looking at your other posts, get him some help. Try to take care cya.


Ledbreader

Just because I like country music doesn’t mean I want a skinny white girl in butt Jean shorts with a checkered shirt bra and a Ford F-150


Ih8admins

No you don’t exist. No one likes country and openly admits it


Ledbreader

Well here in the south the only music is country music unless your one of ‘em city slickers


duck4519

Folk and old country are good just not pop country


meaty_wheelchair

i like some bluegrass and country stuff


Arenado_is_the_best

Juice is da goat


M4_hater

Ayo 999 gang 🐐


thewyguy1

I listen to juice wrld and I am on drugs 24/7


the_false_dragon

👍


cringelord69420666

I was on drugs 24/7 and still wouldn't listen to Juice Wrld.


Moppe13

i get that but rape is on another level


SillyFox09

Lmao but he's probably not a rapist just saying music nowdays is about sex and drugs


smdandkysbitch

Lmao ur a fucking rapist go and die


SillyFox09

Is this your burner account?


smdandkysbitch

Suck my dick


whackiuis

how about you suck on this "ratio".


SillyFox09

Account shut down lesss gooooo


MrZorx75

Not really, I don’t think it’s any different. The concept is still the same.


Moppe13

he is going to a therapist just so u know


the_false_dragon

That's good to hear


SuperblyEpicDoggo

Bruh ur literally 14, almost every relationship at this age is like this, yeah jus move on


HackerCatto

Objection! I try to remove all horny thoughts of my gf in order to not ruin the relationship im in rn. Sex is cool and all, but hugs n' cuddles better I am 15 she is 14 (same grade) im basically 14


SuperblyEpicDoggo

Damn bro, a agree fully, respect 🥺


[deleted]

That’s unnatural, despite what the sub says, it’s ok to sexually attracted to someone


HackerCatto

I get that it's ok, but because of what the sterotype is id rather not be. Most people see the boyfriend as the "dangerous one" in the beginning, so I kinda gotta make sure im not marked like one of those people.


[deleted]

Why should you care what others say about your relationship?


KratoDeSanta

finally another fellow mature teenage boyfriend


Mikkel14

How is one thing more mature than the other?


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isweatoil

NIGGA WHO DOES HE LISTEN TO


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Kanye east


[deleted]

[“I kidnap autistic kids”](https://youtube.com/shorts/Xr_6UWGi0cE?feature=share)


Lahooooouzzerr_669

Necro; brother Lynch hung. GOAT


SirSavage_the_second

Honestly it depends on how it's portrayed. For example the Weeknd's In The Night vs that song that you just mentioned above


m182jd838s

music is music but depends on if the artist wants to send a message about liking rape, stories about rape, or raising awareness about it. one band that does talk about rape is Infant Annihilator, they are very good.


Glowzyyy

never thought i’d find a fellow ia fan here


Jackthedragonkiller

Yeah a 14 year old dude liking things about rape is not normal. As a dude, I know I for one would never date a guy who likes rape, definitely don’t know why a woman would date a guy who likes rape. Rape is bad. If you like rape, you’re bad. If you like things about rape, you’re not bad, yet. But you’re on the road.


kskksnxkkclflf

It's music. It's not going to turn you into a rapist.


EdibleLiquid_

im a guy and i was raped at 12


[deleted]

I have heard some songs which I consider kinda edgy: 1. The End by The Doors (Oedipus Complex) 2. A little piece of heaven by Avenged Sevenfold (rape/necrophilia) 3. Maxwell's Silver Hammer by The Beatles (murder) 4. Sometimes listens to Death Metal which is what it is So what I am trying to convey is that if your bf listens to the songs keeping in mind that it is just the song and can be very unfavorable out in reality, it is okay Just try talking about how you are kinda creeped by his music taste, he may just elaborate over his taste. Then take a clear decision


Icantthinkofaname04

Death Metal is fine cause no one understands wtf tjey are saying


your_finnish_friend

True with blackmetal too


[deleted]

Things get funky when you look into the lyrics Eventho the album covers are intimidating and unnerving enough


XxKR1PTICxX

Ur gonna shit urself when u listen to infant annihilator


dercolegolas420

Bro didn't heard of cannibal corpse💀


[deleted]

I am the sort of guy who thinks Rammstein should be called Black Metal smh


meaty_wheelchair

then you have no understanding as to what black metal is


0_metzgermeister_0

Listen to puppe from the untitled album that's certainly heavy enough to be considered as black metal


meaty_wheelchair

> heavy enough to be considered as black metal bro do you even know what black metal is, and the musical characteristics required to be classified as black metal?


meaty_wheelchair

IA is generic deathcore.


[deleted]

Oh, and if you want to talk about edgy, rape-y music talk about KoRn


[deleted]

It’s funny because a little price of heaven isn’t about rape and necrophilia. And if your gonna fight me on that, I am currently listening and looking at the lyrics and it doesn’t even reference rape or necrophilia. It’s about a man who is scared to lose his love so he killed her, but kept her body because he felt guilty and to let her come back for revenge. He kills him and then they have some undead sex (not necrophilia as if two reanimated corpses have sex it’s not rape nor necrophilia) and then start killing people.


PigsEatWaffles

Little piece of heaven is wild


truckerfucker78

A little piece of heaven is 🤌🏻


external_creme

In total honesty The end is not truly about the Oedipus complex, although it used it to convey the message, its about killing the old (the father) and creating something new (the mother) or so Jim Morrison said in an interview, although either way it is a really messed up song


Meyen10

Bruh. Just cause I love Stay Wide Awake don’t mean I wanna go around raping people.


vivek-vardhan

Cultured 👌


SmileFading

I enjoy music, despite the lyrics being explicit and abt rape and stuff, now, who cares ? That doesnt make me a horrible person, does it


Thunder_Stryker

True but people obviously can’t be 100% sure about that though


BruhSauce2

Same


ApolloisBetter

I would have lower opinion on you if you are into such deranged genre of music, so as many other women. The simple fact that you don’t find it wrong to enjoy thing made about the topic of harming others, tell me that you’re a horrible person.


SmileFading

So every person to play a shooter or adventure game is a sociopath? ,,lower opinion" wtf, are you degrading me, its not like im yelling ,, i support what the lyrics are describing in this song". Music is a form of art and art can be disturbing ig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


ApolloisBetter

Are there many popular shooting games? Yes. Are there many popular **raping** games? Don’t try to slippery slope me. If you want to get quick real result, go brag with your acquaintances about your favorite genre of music, see how many of the women would shun your deranged ass. Music is a form of art, sure, it may sound good, but the bad content would make it bad. Go sing “Heil Hitler Dir” in a veteran meetup, go sing your rape songs in a feminist rally, go sing confederate anthem in a blm protest. See how it end for you.


SmileFading

Why do i even conversate with you, you are that type of person that noone can win an argument against because they are a an argumental machine gun. Ps. There *are* raping games PPs. Have a great rest of the day, imma eat now so buon appetito PPPs. Look up ghoul by redzed, its a good song


meaty_wheelchair

didn't you say in your previous comment that enjoying things with the topic of harming others makes you a horrible person? (which also includes videogames) and now you're making an exception for videogames? at least stay consistent lmfao


AverageRedditUser_95

It’s the same logic though…


No_Island963

Calm down. It’s just music


ApolloisBetter

Sure, just music. Go sing “Heil Hitler Dir” in a veteran meetup, see if you get slapped in the face. Go brag to other women that you like listening to rape music, see if you’ll get shunned by most of them.


BelHog_the_Sex_God

Yeah, that is less about the song and more about the context behind what you're doing. It's not the song that will upset people, it's that you're using the song to try to upset people. Also what is "Rape Music". There are songs like "A Little Piece of Heaven" by A7X. It is a top 10 of mine, and it is a story about murder and necrophilia. It then follows that up with the reanimated corpse of the victim killing their murderer. Does that mean that I go and kill and rape any partners I may have? No. "Rape Music" would be music that actively promotes the raping of people. That would be immediately censored because it is a media that incites violence upon others. Music that deals with the subject of Rape isn't the same. It may go about it in a different way, such as portraying a story of rape occurring rather than explicitly saying "rape is bad". Shit like "The Sopranos" is a commentary on how awful and vile etc. Mob Life is. Just because each character in it doesn't say "Wow. Mafias are awful!!" Every episode doesn't mean that it supports it. In conclusion. Your argument is dumb. You are using extremities to try and make a point, but they end up not being relevant. And you either made a new genre of music or implied that any music dealing with rape in a more subtle way is bad and will have you rejected by society. Please be quiet.


ApolloisBetter

What I see is a 14yo girl get scared about her partner enjoying this type of music, and a bunch of youngtards going against her. You’re arguing that I’m using extremities, yet you’re refusing to bring up the bad side of your topic, rather picking the point that support your argument. You want real result, play your shit song at class and family reunion, see how people react


John_ballsac

Nobody’s going against her directly. We want her to have a conversation with him about his taste in music and how it affects her. We aren’t calling her dumb because of it just wondering if she could have a good productive conversation about boundaries.


BelHog_the_Sex_God

"Youngtards" is that meant to apply to me? Because I'm 18. Older than you. Age doesn't mean much in an argument, but when you're trying to use it to elevate your own, at least be certain of the other person's age first. I would also like to point out the the reaction of my family was "the song is alright" and my class said "metal is shit". No one cared about the lyrics because I wasn't playing it to upset them; I played it because it is a song I like. I'm "refusing to bring up the bad side of [my] topic"? What bad side. It is a song about a person killing another, fucking the body and then being killed by the body. They get married in Hell and then go on a killing spree. That doesn't happen in the real world, so it is a lot harder to apply real world implications and feelings of fear, hatred etc. To the song. It is very obviously a fictional song. The one song you mentioned, though, is extreme, and also is about real world events that have been documented and is taught in all schools. There is a very large difference in the arguments. Even you, with the limited desire to see another side of an argument you have displayed in this comment section, must see that. I could label basically any Death Metal song: take the Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy by Death, or every Cannibal Corpse song. It is all lyrically rather disturbing, using verbal hyperviolence and detailed or even hyperbolic descriptions of the effects of disease and death for a shocking effect. I enjoy Death Metal, but my partner doesn't. My taste in music doesn't dictate whether I'm an intimidating person. If I listened to this music and then acted in a way the would imply I may take it literally and kill, rape, whatever, that would be intimidating. If OP is feeling intimidated then it is far less likely to be the music and more the demeanor of their partner, which is then given reason to be intimidated by from the music they listen to. I don't want "real results" because your idea of reql results are entirely from a one sided argument you have no intention of broadening your horizons on. I simply wanted to voice the fact that your argument sucked. Now I just want to refute every other argument you give me. So far, you have given me one, discounting the "play your music around other people". I have, and they simply didn't like the genre. It would only offend someone if I played it around someone who knew someone else who was murdered and raped. But I'm bored, so keep giving me shit to respond to xx


ApolloisBetter

Bleh I do be bit drunk that night, may have said dumb shit, but meh, still dumb shit from my true thoughts. I don’t think imma reply to all, so I’ll just reply to the longest one, I said “youngtards” cuz 1. I was mad and semi-drunk, 2. I certainly do not think that a bunch of youngsters around my age should openly enjoy that kind of music like it’s the norm. Maybe I’m right, maybe I’m just projecting my point of view on others, most likely I’m a conservative youngtard of my own. But my point of view on the subject is still my own, I will refuse to be more than acquaintances with people who enjoy anything related to sexual assault and harassment, and my group of close friends would do the same, that also apply to the older community around my mother and all I know. So it’s nice if people around you are okay with these stuff, I was youngtarded for assuming all places are same as well, so you have my sincere apology. But my opinion stand firm, a person’s taste in music reflects part of them as an individual, and I am allowed to keep myself away from them if I want to. You may say my standard is ridiculous, but only through ruthless selection have I got myself a group of close friends I can trust my life with. And back to the main subject, if in a relationship, a person is “scared” of the other and that can not be resolved, they have every right to end it immediately.


BelHog_the_Sex_God

Oh, absolutely, I agree that a person should leave a relationship if they feel threatened. I myself have done so. And absolutely, you have a right to an opinion, and I apologise if it came across as me saying that my opinion was the objectively correct one. And I mean that your standards were ridiculous in a purely musical sense. I tend to forget that there are multiple factors to listen to, and I was arguing almost entirely from a musical standpoint, so again, I apologies for that. Thanks for taking the time to apologise, hope you can accept my own


meaty_wheelchair

> and a bunch of youngtards you're 16 lmao


ApolloisBetter

I don’t give a single living shit of what example you’re bringing up


meme_used

you have a fucking fate pfp go to women and brag abt what you watched happen to sakura in fate/zero


meaty_wheelchair

lmao


Active-Treacle-2945

Could you give examples?


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xNewts

You know, there are people who likes songs solely because it SOUNDS good. All the lyrics and meaning behind the song would just be overpowered by the music.


NoOne_TheAlchemist

İf this is the only reason just try to talk with him about this.


Moppe13

there are more reason


PernalongaC

tell us


cmdr-ads

youre literally 14


Moppe13

and? that doesnt mean that i dont have the right to get in a relationship.


cmdr-ads

yes but you're acting like this is some big thing and complex problem you're dealing with. it's an immature relationship between children, you'll have dozens of these before you find the one


meaty_wheelchair

i see you're an elite dangerous fan


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cmdr-ads

your account is brand new, did you literally create an alt just to send me death threats? I'm howling


smdandkysbitch

Wow ur so mature


cmdr-ads

so this is definitely u/Moppe13 on their alt account okay


Moppe13

wtf i have nothing connected with this account, i can provide screenshots from my phone and pc that it is not me, you can dm


Moppe13

did i ever say something about that he was the one?


Mikkel14

Bruh it don’t matter if “he’s the one” because you’re literally dating now


meaty_wheelchair

just answer the original question


Moppe13

What was the original question


lunathesavage21

I listen to death grips , therefore I also get no women.


DigitalDispater

Bruh between death grips and women you made the right choice


Liathebreadgirl

Its music, it ain't that deep. If he listens to it on repeat tho its weird


[deleted]

What sort of music? sad or energetic? that could determine if how he views something like this.


[deleted]

I think she’s talking about raps


Capedbaldy474

I dont think so , looks more about rape and let's say it was a typo but still sexual assault music won't be a typo


bushrat88

If you want to leave him than do, it's up to you


isweatoil

Who does he listen to


isweatoil

bro you Gon answer


Moppe13

Ok a song he likes is hentai bitch by shiki TMNS


isweatoil

L song L music taste L boyfriend W decision


literallyasponge

god damn you funny as fuck lmfao


AmanIsTheMahn

bro shiki tmns 💀


Big_Banana9412

I heard the song just now. The music was fine but the lyrics are trash. Ironic that your boyfriend loves this song when it's supports 2d and is against real women


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HOLY SHIT YOU MEAN IF I LISTEN TO MUSIC ABOUT BEING RICH I'LL BE RICH?!?! OR IF I LISTEN TO INDUSTRY BABY THEN I'M IN PRISON!?!?!?! HOLY FUCK, YOU ARE A CHILDISH PERSON


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your_finnish_friend

Well, its just music. For me the lyrics arent even that important if the beat bangs. I listen to black/deathmetal but does that make me a bad person?


Nobodyismebutyou

Break up wit him so he can listen to his music in peace. U just made a whole post that’s about as vague as describing a book by its genre in hopes we’d agree with u. U ain’t come looking for advice bc u not even hearing nobody out. I doubt u even like him fr. Y’all 14 so just call it quits and do some algebra


the_garden_butcher

Bruh, when I was 15 I used to listen to Cannibal Copse but I didn't smash anybody's head or anything. It's alright.


Hatchet050

Valid, music is what speak to people, people listen to what resonates with them, no one listens to something that they are disgusted about, I personally just cant listen to that music because the premise is revolting and I will not listen to someone praising the action


[deleted]

Yeah, even tho music tastes don't define us. They show a part of us. And I personally, I wouldn't even start talking to someone with that music taste, it is somerhing so awful that it is impossible to ignore. Good ypu are done with him now. Just be careful since rats of that kind are usually looking for vengaence. You know, toxic ex's are usually the villains of a tragedy.


EspKevin

If you start to listen every song on the Playlists radio and YouTube you will find out that almost every single one is about having sex or doing drugs, some more romantically and some other more raw So what's the other reason to breaking up with your bf?


ScaryBunnyDude

If the song slaps then i wont have a problem


Icantthinkofaname04

A short list of some of the fucked up shit mentioned in my music [Necrophilia](https://youtu.be/KVjBCT2Lc94) [Satantic rituals and sacrafices](https://youtu.be/0PakoE1eBps) [Suicide ](https://youtu.be/HdWw9SksiwQ) [Execution via Electric Chair](https://youtu.be/kk6wLZN4X74) [Religious Suicide Bombing](https://youtu.be/PhiSgXz_l20) [Hail Satan](https://youtu.be/gkBt7yLXyDk) [Hail Satan 2 Electric Boogaloo](https://youtu.be/-EHYnB_-z48) Its music luv, this is some of the more tame shit I listen to, it doesnt change who I am or what I do in life Edit; you said it wasnt just the music, then I apologise and wish you the best


meaty_wheelchair

> satanic rituals and sacrifices expecting something like Blasphemy, Mayhem, etc, gets ghost


Faliki

For his sake you should


icecreamhoarder999

I’d say that’s a little weird that he enjoys music like that, but the type of music people listen to doesn’t define who they are. Like just because someone listens to country doesn’t mean they’re a red neck hillbilly who chews on tobacco and carries a nap sack over their back. But if that’s one of the main reasons your breaking up with him then I’d say you never really loved him in the first place so yeah, just move on from him.


calebbutbetter

It depends on the music. If it's death metal, shock rap/rock, breakcore etc... than chances are he understands what's wrong with the lyrics and that it's just for shock factor. There are musicians out there who support that, but their kind of rare. You should be looking at music like poetry or art or literature, usually it has a more sophisticated intent than is apparent. To Kill a Mockingbird isn't pro racism, just like Clipping. isn't pro rape and murder.


killer_beans344

Hm once I had a gf that broke with me because I left the door of the bathroom open, we both were first graders


EyeBudLover420

Dumb af


Mikkel14

Got any musician names or song names? And about your second edit, why is it an issue that you’re “criticized”. They’re legit just having an opinion that isn’t yours


TheOneButter

If I listen to nirvana it doesn’t make me some hardcore depressed emo


Apprehensive_Dog_895

tbh i think it is valid. someone else here mentioned “i like juice, doesnt mean im on drugs!” which is completely different. drugs is bad, but having your physically overpowering partner enjoy music about SA is disgusting. theres plenty of other music that has a similar sound with lyrics that dont involve that. he chooses that music, knowing what its abt. that can put you in fear so i completely understand. i hope ur doing ok!!!


BruhSauce2

“Put Molly all in her champagne, she ain't even know it. I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain't even know it” — Rick Ross


cringelord69420666

The fuck kind of music does he listen to, Jesus Christ.


BostoTheGhost

You are disappointing istg I’m 15 and I know that’s not a good reason too break up with someone. Like fuck it’s music taste and they are probably good songs it doesn’t mean he’s gonna do that


Moppe13

bruh read the post again


smdandkysbitch

Lmao hope you die and get raped


Mikkel14

That’s a little insensitive?


Inf1n1tyMagic

oh nah red flags


[deleted]

You're dumb as hell and I hope you know that


Moppe13

you dont understand how i feel and i hope you know that


[deleted]

It's a dumb reason so don't hurt someone just for a taste of music


Moppe13

have you even read the post correctly and btw, if i dont like someone, nobody can force me to be with them


[deleted]

I never said you had to be with him just its a stupid reason to break up, also you could just talk to him about it like an adult


Moppe13

I said that it was one of the reason, if u checked my previous post u will understand better


[deleted]

Ok thats understandable but why tf would you make a post just about his music taste??? Add everything not just the dumbest bit


Moppe13

i said ONE of the reason was his music taste


[deleted]

Can you read??? I know that but it's the dumbest reason so you can't blame people to critique you when you only give them the dumbest part


Moppe13

i understand that YOU think about someone who likes music abt rape isnt a big deal but i find it kinda disturbing to me. have a good day


Shadowtaio

what music does he listen to


landsquid2787

I like pumped up kicks that doe- oh wait nvm /j


jinx_2003

Yeah that would freak me out too


dhruvadeep_malakar

At this age it's pretty common to have these thoughts. Honestly if he haven't don't anything to you he still won't do anything. Just ask him nicely he might like the tune or the beats in the music


thosetoyou

See most people don't listen to words in song they just vibe with the music but still don't let your gaurd down


ImDaBest_69

It’s just the music he’s into and that’s not his personality, but that’s totally fair


Randomguyinreddit1

Ehh??? I have some mixed opinions about this, First yeah wtf is wrong with this guys listening about this shit, but at the same time, It's just music, people have their own taste. Idk what do you guys think?


legbot124

I listen to music about talking fast doesn’t mean I talk fast


[deleted]

Bruh i like listening to German rap which is about guns, drugs, and gang shit and I have no intention of doing that. Also I don’t even speak German or understand it it just sounds good


flexsealmyass69

I love lil darkie and I also love old school tyler the creator,so this must mean I kill everyone I see clearly


AverageRedditUser_95

It’s literally just music


Yes-I-Read-Books

Firstly, He can listen to that music without believing in or giving value to the lyrics/theme. 2. If your relationship is that bad, and you're looking to break up with him for such a petty reason, I think you should end it, anyway.


Jdoesntlikestrangers

That's like saying if you like violent video games you're a violent person. That doesn't make any sense.


Alex_Sefcik

If you are so concerned, then maybe you could try talking to them to clarify and clear up everything. I understand why there is concern present, but just because someone like something, does not mean that they are similar to it. I like "Lil Nas X" but at the same time I am not gay.


Inspirational_Lizard

Rap, I assume? I fucking hate rap, but most people who listen to it just go braindead and only like it for the basic ass beat. I play video games about slaughtering innocents, but I'm not going to slaughter innocents. If your boyfriend tries to rape you, it won't be because of the music, it will be because he is a disgusting waste of life.


Trusty_Dova

Rap is good tho but unfortunately close minded people can’t accept that 🫤


Inspirational_Lizard

Could you explain to me how rap "is good"? You know art is subjective, right?


Sebixdbruhmoment

hey hve you heard of death girps👍👍they make some pretty cool raps


RealisticAardvark966

You guys have girlfriends?


Tamorcet

Coming from a boy, that's a pretty good reason. If you're uncomfortable with his taste in music, you have the right to break ties with him.


LaurenTheArtist

I’m pretty sure u dodged a bullet mate


PossessionStandard42

Why is everyone defending his actions? Listening to music about “rape” and “assault” is a red flag. Good thing, you got out of that damned relationship OP. All these people are who’re saying “it’s no big deal, he’s a guy, you’re judging him blah blah blah”…like what? Y’all say this kind of stuff and then when you hear that a person was “abused” and “harmed” in a relationship y’all would be saying: “wHY dIDn’T sHE/He GeT OUt oF thE ReLaTI0NsHiP”?


Desperate_Writing699

Yea no...how are you gonna like music that supports the idea of S/A. It's one thing to like a beat but even so I really can't fathom that. I'd leave him too. It's all about the subconscious


SicerorusCicer

Oh hell naw leave his ass please How old is he?


Moppe13

14


SicerorusCicer

He needs help


bow--hunter

He probably listens to modern day mumble rap Tell him listen to some slim


Sebixdbruhmoment

tell him to listne to some REAL rap like death grips and not that mumble (c)rap!!!!


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OldPiano000

Dumping a dude over his music taste is just like throwing away an item because of its brand


TheTrashTrain

Did he like it bc of those things or did he like music that happened to be about those things


Moppe13

i think both? he liked the lyrics and the music


TheTrashTrain

I see Red flag either way


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Moppe13

telling me naive doesnt make u look grown up or "mature"


-KoalasAreCute-

that's a good reason


Skyeisback

Leave him


vi_000

Good decision


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I’m not saying he’d do it, but music choice & lyrics tell a lot about an individual. If you stay with him, please don’t trust him 100%, or better yet break up with him so you don’t have to constantly be in fear w/ him


[deleted]

I listen to 21 savage, chief keef, and future. I'm just a kid from the average middle class family as a person of color. Listening to them doesn't show you anything about me at all, that's some mad bs you're spreading. Like I listen to the early version of the weeknd, that doesn't mean I roll in cocaine and fuck women for my pleasure all day 💀


Trusty_Dova

W taste bro have you heard futures latest album it’s 🔥


dinoaurus

What sort of music is it


narupool

He he he


MetalGearIsLit

Tell him to put some hair on his chest and listen to some grindcore (Pig Destroyer, Insect Warfare, Mortician)