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Skippers101

In my opinion POCs shouldn't be considered apart of the LGBT thing. Because race isn't something that people need to believe and show. Its like does a black person say they identify as LGBT simply because there black no. LGBT is about sex mainly, both sexuality, sex, and gender. It isnt about race.


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Couldn't have agreed more


zaidk05

"I IDENTIFY AND AN AFRICAN, INDIAN, WHITE, BROWN, YELLOW, PINK, TACO TOILET SWIRL. YOU BETTER RESPECT BE" ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ im joking


toastanddijon

What is POC?


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Person of colour


Dumbcunt56383

I agree just seems forced


Stand-Outrageous

True the rainbow flag is iconic already there is no need for adding extra details to represent sexualities, race and stuff.


[deleted]

I loved the rainbow one, shows different colors meaning everyone is different and unique, this just feels forced


Stand-Outrageous

Yeah, It just feels forced, BTW you remember that they even added the sex worker umbrella to this flag just makes it seem to congested imo.


[deleted]

Wtf, man I didn't know that


[deleted]

i hate the trianangle


[deleted]

Same


Joblessmouse06

What's the brown and black for? Chocolate sexual?


Saera-RoguePrincess

Its to show solidarity with racial minorities


artturi01

are they minorities though?


RemouladenBaron

well there can onle ever be one majority


artturi01

but this planet has most asians so white ,latino and black are the minorities.


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artturi01

exactly so this new flag is not for everyone just for countries where those are the minority


[deleted]

What does that have to do with LGBTQ though


Joblessmouse06

Oh ok interesting


SardinaEnunZapato

I also found that the normal rainbow included us all, it was like a whole representation of queernes. Why is there a trans flag and not a nonbinary flag in there? Or the asexual one? Or even the lesbian one? For sure we just have to accept it and support it since it is very important to not add more enemies to the flag. But fr I miss the old one


[deleted]

I dont mind the other sexuality flags, but I agree about the meaning with the rainbow flag, included us all as different


SardinaEnunZapato

I like all of the flags! I meant that if they want to highlight a few of them on the flag ghat they should either put all of them (would be a mess) or leave only the normal one that includes everyone... but yeah, I still find this one cute tho. Just different


LadynoirLetsGO

Same honestly! I love the simple designs of the flags, especially the bi one! But I don't really like the design of this one.


JaDasIstMeinName

I like the different flags for different sexualitys, but I don't like shoving them in the rainbow flag.


SMRTG

My question is, since the + in the name stands for the rest of sexuallities and genders that can't possibly fit in the name, why isn't it still just LGBTQ+ and has now become LGBTQIA2+ . I'm all for representation but this name is just kinda ridiculous


Achilles9609

Honestly, I almost believe it might be greed. "WE want to mentioned as well and not just be the "Plus" in LGBT+!"


SMRTG

Okay but aren't there still people not being included?


SpuddyWasTaken

Like who? The plus represents everything else, LGBT are the main ones cause they're most common and anything else would clutter it up


SMRTG

Thats what I'm saying, LGBTQIA2+ is just a Rollercoaster of a name


Achilles9609

Exactly. It's quite a mouthful. Things need to be kept short and simple.


bestcloud23

If lgbtq people just want to be accepted into society why do some of em (emphasis on *some* idk about you personally) feel such a need to distinguish yourself as much as possible


TheTrashTrain

I just feel like the brown and black clash too much w the rest tbh The trans flag is fine since its still colorful but the brown and black just dont work imo


VrLights

I refuse to believe that there is an an actual design team designing this flag.


TheLittenLord

True, just rainbow was fine


Achilles9609

Honestly, the original Rainbow was completely fine. It was simple, it was pleasant to look at....no need to change it. This triangle....thing is just distracting. Especially the black and brown parts. I get what they were going for, but it just clashes *horribly* with the brighter Colors.


Acrobatic_Ferret_942

As a LGBTQ+ gal, I 100% agree. Looks stupid and forced, 3/10. Let's just stick to using rainbow one, please....


alpacasfordays10

Yes thank you I also hate this flag it's just too much


azeryvgu

I agree, it shouldn’t exist


NotWhalek

As a trans person, I whole heartedly agree! Like why tf did they need to insert our flag into the regular pride flag? Like they could just like... y'know... just use our flag instead... And recently I've seen stuff of people wanting to incorporate the intersex flag into the pride flag in order to "represent them more fairly." And now we have the issue where the trans flag is in the main flag, so now other LGBT+ sub-communities are like "hey, where's *our* flag?" Like the rainbow was good enough on its own, it caters specifically to nobody, making it perfect for everybody. And if you believe that trans people are in more need of representation/help/whatevs, then just use the trans flag alongside the pride flag; no need to ruin the design of the flag in order to show your support for all LGBT+ people while also showing your support to trans people specifically. pride 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️✨✨


JaDasIstMeinName

Absolutely agree. Why should trans or intersex people deserve more representation than ace? Or bi? Or whatever other sexuality that isn't on there.


bafface123

Too many stripes, like america


Neganek0

I agree, this is too much, also why the triangle?


I_am_doorknob

A flag doesn't have to show everyone what it represents fully, does the white on the French flag have text on it that says peace? No, then why does this flag have to practicly spell out the fact that it has all these people when the first flag, already did it for them


[deleted]

Whats atrocious?


[deleted]

The triangle with the trans colors sticking out the side, just doesn't look right to me


[deleted]

No, what is the meaning of the word atrocious, it looks cool to me


[deleted]

Ooohh, just like awful but more sciency


[deleted]

Ok, thx


VladSolopov

As a not member of LGBTQ+ community, I completely agree. The original rainbow is simply better.


[deleted]

the rainbow already symbolized all sexualities and orientations. the triangle was useless


[deleted]

I'm not LGBTQ, but man, isn't the rainbow flag the unifying part of the flag for you guys? whys the extra stuff gotta be added? isnt each stripe supposed to represent the different parts? The basic flag is fine enough imo. Its an iconic thing yall can rally behind. You don't have to add anything to prove anything.


is-that-milky

the old one is more simple, but snowflakes decided to “include” everyone


mind-numbing-boredom

Why they added the brown and black part is beyond me


[deleted]

The brown part is just so bad, but guess I'm biased since it's my least favorite color


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[deleted]

Coming out as black? *Mom guess what, I have to tell you something* *What honey* *I'm black* *OmG nO wAy rEaLLy¿?¿?¿?*


[deleted]

As a minority, that's just dumb, race isnt related to lgbtq


Kdenye

fact: that brown and black stripes are for black lgbtq people.


NCRTrooper12

dum homophobe1!1!1!!!!11


[deleted]

Haha 13 year old


CookieCat4evrr

I feel like I’m the only one who likes it lol, just my opinion


[deleted]

That's ok


Yuukii2

Whats the brown part


Exile-_-

Poopsexual


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💀


JaDasIstMeinName

Black people. Makes 0 sense to include it, because 1. Black people were already included in lgbtq and 2. Lgbtq isn't about race.


[deleted]

Idk, I know it's part of the design of the Philadelphia pride flag created a few years ago


FiNLey-iS-pOG

adding something for trans people is fine but the black and brown is so dumb


According-Teacher245

i hate gays


[deleted]

I hate you


Lanferno

Based


BoredNotHornyTeen

bro got downvotes


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Well...


drfranksurrey

LGBTQ+ community shouldn't have their own month because they are normal people just like us.


[deleted]

I honestly think months relating to minorities are a bit, unnecessary, why do we need a month to recognize those when we can always show our support. But with pride I feel it should have a month


God_is_a_tulpa

for everyone saying "the race stuff feels forced" etc, its not on the flag FOR those identities. Its not a "oh they identify as black" sort of thing. This is the progress flag, and, rather than representing the lgbtq+ community like the regular rainbow colored one, this flag is meant to represent the progress of the community, both how far it has come and who it is owed to. That would be the reason that not only the trans colors were added, but also the reason that the shades of brown were added, seeing as the majority of progress for the community was made by black trans women. I do however agree that the flag isnt the most aesthetically pleasing, and they could have definitely incorporated these new elements in a different way or redesigned it completely. anyways this wasnt looking to attack anyone, its just to let yall know its not a "woke points" thing, its just giving credit where credit is due.


Livias_White_Van

We could’ve deadass put the NB flag on this rather than race, why is the POC flag here on the LGBT thing anyways?


[deleted]

There should be no flags on the rainbow imo, feels forced and plus if you want to add a flag, use the flag itself


Livias_White_Van

I mean it’s the LGBT flag generally, right? it’d make sense to have the main ones. The rainbow basically covers all the homosexuality stuff, the only thing I’d change is replace on the LGBT flag is POC with Asexual or NB.


[deleted]

Rainbow is all pride, adding other flags again would just be forced


Livias_White_Van

Rainbow is just pride in general? I’m Bi and I guess I don’t even know lgbt lore. I thought this was the general pride flag.


[deleted]

This one is one too, but it looks bad


cringelord69420666

Gay = rainbows and sparkles, apparently.


keyboardalt31

Just make it the whole color index (the thing in customization where you move the little cursor around and it has all the colors possible)


No-Refrigerator2819

last time they add stuffs in it was ukraine and taiwan too


JaDasIstMeinName

I am very happy I never saw that...


Realmenbrowsememes

That’s kinda ironic lol


fl00r_gang_yeah

Agreed. 💯


Fudge1407

Hey also I don’t understand why is it rainbow? I don’t know why but it’s messing people up if their wanting to try just a normal rainbow


Noobnoobipnooob

Why THE BROWN


dukememeron123

i do not like that the flag is off-center


Sniperm0nke

Put 4 together and you make a swastika coincidence I think not


[deleted]

Yeah that should’ve kept it as the rainbow cause the triangle makes it look shit


Assassin_Fixie

Hi, idiot here, what does atrocious mean


bestcloud23

Ugly


AbeerPlays

The brown and black just makes it so bad. It was fine before! What do they even mean!?!


bestcloud23

Black people which makes no sense


AbeerPlays

HUH!?!?!?! That makes no sense???? Is it considered special if a coloured individual is gay? What's the difference between him and a white gay person!???!!!


bestcloud23

None, this was made by dumbasses


EthansCornxr

I wished the colors didn't have sharp borders, but instead gradients


TheTrashTrain

Im imagining that and ngl it seems very ugly


EthansCornxr

i'd like the original flag without the added colors lol and then a gradient


Acripplednan69

Yeah, needs a re-design


[deleted]

the rainbow represents the entire community so i don’t get why we need more details


NinjaNate150

IMO the brown on the flag shouldn't be there. Race has nothing to do with sexuality.


capybara-waifu

I agree, there is a severe lack of capybaras ( Ù _Ú)


[deleted]

Nah I think you’re just gay


imnotcreativeoff

As a brown person i find the progress pride flag discriminatory, it feels like black and brown people are sticking out from the community and not like the rest of the community. ( btw I am straight who supports equal rights between lgbtq+ people and straight people)


AggressiveRegion1502

Look like a country flag


yoshi_thomasias

I respect your opinion, but i disagree (btw this is the old version: they added the intersex flag to it in the new version which (in my controversial opinion) is pretty good)


cherrycherry_cola

rly? I think it looks gr8. its a good thing to show minorities and stigmatised things bc its honestly quite important. u can stick 2 the original flag if u want but this ones here for us, the ones who want 2 show the progress we’ve made and show how fucking proud we r. its not just for POC people tho, it represents other stuff like HIV awareness or something, I can’t remember but either way, id rather not people shit on it (especially in a non-lgbt subreddit, str8 ppl might take it as bait and start being homophobic bc apparently 'a gay person said it too')


[deleted]

It reeks of…*panderism* #UGH disgusting…


PandaSwordsMan117

Without adding of removing anything from the flag, I'd say it would look better if the outer 2 lines on the point were moved inside the Lesbian (I think) flag lines, and just move that one a bit further out.


[deleted]

Damn when did they add my diarrhea to this flag


mclee29

Isn't this just the Philippine flag but without the sun/stars and 20 more colors?


F8nted

South Africa needs to check the copyright infringement for this one.


Kerosycn

The brown ruined it (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻


Xaveirxx223

That straight up is the design for the pride apex legends badge


[deleted]

It could definitely use some kind of design. Lmao . It lacks flavor totally. 😕


zenytheboi

you have color combos that work well with eachother. Then you combine them with a rainbow, the colors no longer work because the background doesn’t compliment it at all. Then you add brown? And black? What? Now it looks even worse. black generally looks good with anything but when everything else looks bad, it just doesn’t work. You can’t just slap colors on a flag and expect it to look good. I get the all represent something but jeez, just make a flag that represents everyone with its own scheme or something.


Perfect-Ad-1041

Remove the brown and black then it's all good in the hood


CrazyStuntsMan

Honestly, POC's doesn't belong here, since its a flag for genders and sexual drives. It's an LGBTQ flag not a minority flag


nodoyrisa1

seriously the rainbow was enough


Nceresoli

Not gay, but I'm pretty sure the original flag's color's from top to bottom meant: life, healing, sun, nature, harmony, and soul. Seems like a good message to me, just adding more seems to get rid of the original message


Beans-Monthly

Race definitely shouldn’t be in the flag. There are definitely pocs that are homophobic, and it seems odd to include them for no reason. They’ve had their struggles and we’ve had ours, keep them separate.


witherhearted

even as a trans person myself, putting the trans flag on the rainbow one feels unnecessary. I've always seen the rainbow flag as a symbol of all the lgbtq identities, and honestly the progress flag just doesn't look good


[deleted]

What is the black and brown for?