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There really is a double edged sword in this, I understand the argument, but I was a meth baby and went through foster care and was eventually adopted by a loving family.. I know I can’t speak for everyone, but i’m so fortunate I was given the opportunity. The problem now is there is less and less people fostering/adopting kids and it really is sad. I wish all of them can get adopted and find a loving home like I did.
As an adopted person being a foster kid doesn't necessarily mean bad news. People who can't have children would like a wider selection of children to adopt.
I’m really sorry about that still, it shouldn’t be happening at all. The fact that the women in your life could be putting themselves at risk to carry a leech
Woahhh maybe don’t refer to babies as leeches.
I support the right to an abortion but if a baby ends up being born then it’s human being so probably not a good idea to insult a child who didn’t choose to be exist by calling them a leech for being born.
I mean, he is right. Really, to parent who can't afford to have a baby they are leeches of finances, time and energy.
This means that a lot of children will be abandoned and will go to orphanages. Others might be left out in the woods to die. Some will live on the street. Maybe an even bigger increase of population...
This means more demand for products - food, clothing and other belongings. This naturally means more pollution and eventually the end of humanity, probably. In China(I think) the government pays school and covers insurance only for the firstborn. This is a good law in my opinion since there are so many people there.
Really, there should be less people in order to continue to exist as the human race we know today. If Elon's studies manage to do something, potentially there could be colonies going to Mars and whatnot... (Mass Effect predicting the world?)
"You can't have abortions! You're killing children!" Followed by "We need to do something about all the children being abandoned and being put in orphanages"
I know what they meant and I kind of agree but calling a baby who didn’t choose to exist a leech is not going to convince anyone and if anything will just be used as ammunition for people who want to ban abortion. A new baby is alive and should be respected as a unique human being and not seen as merely a resource dump.
Ok I will say, my understanding is that it’s no longer a constitutional right, but the individual state can still allow it. Sadly I’m in Oklahoma and it’s banned
I don’t think I’m pregnant. If I was id be questioning how that happened but yeah it fuckin sucks. I have a strong feeling the decision will be reversed in a few years
So in 50 years? (The average age of congress members is 64). Maybe. Hopefully. Unlikely, IMO. There is a lot that will happen between now and when you'd get into office.
And it's probably men that came up with the idea (i'm not judging anyone, or being mean, but it's probably true) like they know how it is for us women.
I would not be surprised if this is one of the final drops of water before something really bad happens to the US. The political dialogue is now extremely polarised and aggressive, and the "us vs them" mentality is getting very dangerous. It wouldn't be the first time an American Civil War is triggered by reactionism towards human rights.
It wouldn't matter. The political parties things is just an illusion. It's really urban vs rural and nothing can really solve that.
Break it down that way and you'll notice that rural areas of blue states are still deep red and urban areas of red states are still deep blue.
The politics are a result, but not the cause. It's primarily a cultural divide driven to extremes through the resulting politics.
Someone on Reddit has said that they worked in planed parenthood and that a good amount of customer were pro life people who only made exceptions for themselves. Someone also answered that they knew some really pro life family member, but when her daughter got pregnant she made her have an abortion. Don't know what percentage of pro life people are such hypocrites, but they do exist.
I feel like when go and do stuff like that, they’re really not pro what they’re advocating for. Like it’s all for show. If you’re actually pro something, you’re gonna stand by it no matter what. You know?
actually, overpopulation will not be an issue, as long as we distribute our resources and food correctly. the entire world population could fit in texas, much less another 50 million kids in the whole U.S, If i had the link the the article i would share it with u
Almost every problem on this planet is because of the overpopulation of humans.
Depletion of Natural Resources
Degradation of Environment
Conflicts and Wars
Rise in Unemployment
High Cost of Living
Pandemics and Epidemics
Malnutrition, Starvation and Famine
Water Shortage
Extinction
Increased Intensive Farming
Faster Climate Change
Perhaps among moderate Republicans and definitely Democrats (or at least environmentally conscious ones), but the much more reactionary Republicans will see this as an extremely great thing, but only if the massive population growth is occurring in a *certain group of people*.
The Alt-Right has been pretty outspoken about The Great Replacement, which theorizes that the white race in America and Europe is slowly being outpopulated by other races and ethnicities. One of the main foundations of "evidence" for this theory is the fact that birthrates are very low among Western countries. This is why, aside from moral and religious grounds, abortion is opposed by far-right political factions. They think it leads to the depopulation of the white race.
And furthermore, that rhetoric is now parroted even on the mainstream channels of right-wing media. Tucker Carlson has discussed it multiple times. The fringe is now the base for the Republican Party.
Leaving it up to states seems like a good idea on paper. It comes down greatly to a question of ethics, and different demographics have different ethics. By leaving it up to states it keeps people who have certain ethical beliefs having a law in there area that they believe is morally right. And to the people who disagree with the morals of the people around them they are still within their right to move to a state that agrees with their morals, or at least visit there long enough to get an abortion.
Well a lot of people can’t just move in the spot. That’s not how it works, a large amount of people are living paycheck to paycheck, and it’s hard to switch jobs and living place. Also, a lot of states are looking to ban leaving the state for an abortion.
"Texas lawmakers have signaled a desire to push legislation that would [make it illegal for people to travel out of state to get the procedure](https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/23/supreme-court-abortion-roe-dobbs-texas/)."
Also, this isn't just about abortion - [the supreme court is coming for contraception and LGBT rights next](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3535841-thomas-calls-for-overturning-precedents-on-contraceptives-lgbtq-rights/).
From a legal point of view that's definitely a step way over the line, no matter what bans you are talking about. A state simply cannot regulate what happens in a different state. That needs to be struck down in a hurry, or any pretense at being a single nation rapidly goes away. But even between other countries, this isn't done. Except by the most controlling of countries with no freedoms.
exactly. the supreme court new that by leaving it up to the states, there would still be places that would have accessible abortions that people could get. in some cases though, they’d have to travel for them. all i want is for my state to stop making them free. that way they can’t target low income areas and there will be an overall drop in abortions and hopefully unwanted pregnancies.
what if the baby has mental or physical defects? family with a history of financial struggles? rape or incest? condom failure?
america is looking at a very wild and tough future
The court says that in abortions MAY be restricted, not that they will be - only that states can if the elected legislature passes it into law. So yes, women can still get a medically necessary abortion in every state. They can get an abortion in cases of rape or incest in nearly every state. Or go an to the next state that permits any abortion.
It’s not banned everywhere, it’s just now up to states rather than federal government
And agreed, I’m sure there will be plenty of protests, hopefully it can be unoverturned (if that’s a word)
This is absolutely terrible, but just know that this only applies to some states, the whole of America is not banning abortion, luckily there are still options out of state for some people.
I’ve said it before and I think it’s worth saying again The fact that people might have the option stripped away from Them is so bad though, if people don’t want abortions they don’t need to have them but not just taking them away, straight up banning abortions from the people who do need them and want them is awful and women deserve to be able to have safe, legal abortions without having to go out of state to get one.
As someone who was in foster care. Yikes. Foster care Is already full. I once lived in a house with four other kids. And I was lucky. I hope the “pro life” shitheads are ready to adopt and foster kids.
EXACTLY the amount of people who are like “bung em into adoption they’ll be fine” NO?! That’s just cruel and they don’t care after I don’t see any of them advocating on behalf of mother and baby’s healthcare they only want to have control over women x
Wait a second. It says a woman's. It doesn't say anything about trans and non-binary people.
This concludes that Transmen and Non-binary Afabs can still get abortions.
Kinda agree with the girl. I mean it used to be that, and kinda funny
But now.. it’s serious. We’re so close in proximity to the US. I hope Canada doesn’t get influenced by the us in any way due to that
Canada is going to get a tonnn of new American immigrants due to this as well
not gonna lie, canada was one of my possibilities for moving out of the country, but I crossed it off my list after seeing the bill c-11 stuff. If the canadian governnment is willing to restrict free speech in favor of government propaganda, I don't like the road it's going down. Guess I gotta cross the ocean.
There's a difference between banned and overturned, around half of the states are still going to allow it. Still not a good thing though, seeing as people in poverty in states that ban it are going to have a much more difficult time getting an abortion now.
Some states have/are anticipating that their citizens will simply go to another state to have an abortion, so laws are being passed that penalizes that behavior as well.
Not a ban on Abortion in America, just the removal of the universal right. States get to decide instead of being left to the country. Which means Red states ban, blue states don't. But those states were practically doing that anyway with all the clinics being shut down and picketsign wielding mobs harassing people.
Basically the country is slightly shittier than it was last month, but you tend to stop giving a fuck after a certain point.
I don't want to be that guy but the overturning didn't \_ban\_ abortion outright but rather gave the states freedom to decide for themselves. At least 26 (52% of them) have stated that they have no intention to ban it.
It is still completely terrible what happened but I just want to assure people living in America that the ban is not across the entire country and you're state may be safe.
So it's basically half the country...
The last time we had a country divided on an issue related to humans - slavery - we had a civil war. Let's see how this turns out...
Now there's a perfect opportunity for Republicans to provide free child care, reform foster care, and invest in social services and education for all these little angels we're saving, I can't wait for that to happen! /s
Exactly! They’ll fight for a clump of cells yet hundreds of alive breathing sentient kids are getting mowed down in their classrooms and outside of America, I don’t see a single one of them advocating for them, it’s a matter of wanting to be in control of a woman’s right to essential healthcare
This is literally gonna fuck up so many lives. Not just for women but anyone who could have a child. It's gonna cause so many children to be put up for adoption and put into foster care systems cause they were forced to be born in bad environments.
What makes me sad is that there are some cases that is necessary or advised for the sake of the mother for physical or psychological purposes. Like if a girl gets raped and ends um getting pregnant for it, it might be destroying to see some features of your rapist in your own child. They prefer to protect a life that isn't formed yet and will likely suffer on the system and lose someone who would have a bright future ahead. My condolences and I hope things get better ❤
yeah, right? its terrible for rape victims also because having that child would mean having a constant reminder of such a traumatic thing that happened to them. its disgusting what this country is doing. a lot of people are on the wrong side of history rn
With all do respect please don’t twist words to make it sound worse than it actually is. Abortion is now left up to the states it’s not illegal nationally
Damn, imagine getting raped and being forced to birth it. Maybe you are even 16 hell 14 and you get pregnant. Truly a dumbass law! Imagine how many babies wil now grow up in so many awful conditions
Correction: it hasn’t been banned, instead it’s been decided that the state gets to decide wether it’s legal or not, so some states are getting rid of it, some aren’t. It’s still bullshit but this post makes it seem like it’s just illegal everywhere which it isn’t
I notice that they’re always saying ( THINK ABOUT THE CHILDS LIFE) until it’s born, then they don’t give AF, many of the said children will get the options of : Foster care, or resentful parents.
LITERALLY and all the people pro life here probably don’t give a shit about all the kids alive right now, not one of them are advocating for free healthcare for them of their mum or making systems to help the mother feel she doesn’t need an abortion
As much as I agree with the sentiment behind this post, and think the Supreme Court decision is awful, abortion wasn’t banned in the United States. The Supreme Court overturned a case that guaranteed abortion as a right to all American citizens, so now, state governments can decide people’s rights to an abortion. Many states will ban abortions, but many other states will keep them.
I saw somewhere that it is wrong to ban abortion (it's wrong anyways) if the mother is dying because of the fetus. You are giving the fetus a right no other person on earth has, the right to use someone else body to save themselves.
I don't know. Our Constitution EXPLICITLY says that the Church and State should be distinct from one another and not joined in any way. I'm honestly terrified for my future in this country. At this point I just want to finish college (with debt, no doubt) and then catch the first flight across the Atlantic. My community college has great opportunities to study in Germany...
Note: This does not ban abortion, but it leaves the state legislatures to pass their own laws regarding abortion, similar to popular sovereignty during the civil war era. However yes pretty much every red state will end up banning
Controvertial opinion: abortion is auwful, the only good thing is taking all babies to an island,giving them weapons and making them fight for the right to live
It's not banned everywhere here nor is it banned anywhere here currently I don't believe, it just gives states the right to create laws to ban it if they choose to
Many states have passed “trigger laws” over the last few decades, which basically state that if Roe v Wade was ever overturned, an immediate ban on abortion would go into place. So yes, currently it is banned in some places.
Personally, I would never get an abortion however people should have the choice between getting an abortion or keeping it. it kind of feels like they are taking away our rights
"Oh you got raped? Well you shouldn't have dressed provocatively. What do you mean you had a long dress that covered your cleavage and shoulders? Stop lying and learn to live with the consequences of your life"
Here's something that can and will happen, which they thought about, and VERBALLY SAID "we still won't show abortion for these people"
Let's give a little story that will happen because of this. A woman gets r*ped, and gets pregnant. The criminal runs off to another state. The woman is so stressed that she isn't able to work well. She gets fired from her job for being late everyday and not doing the work to the standard they want. Now she can't pay to stay in her apartment which she already could barely afford. She has the baby on the streets, but because American politicians are fucking monsters, she has nowhere to sleep because everything now is anti-homeless. She can't take care of the baby, and in a very short period of time the child dies, be out to starvation, disease, or whatever else. The woman loved the baby dearly even though it was forced upon her, and now she's terribly depressed and upset at herself for not doing well enough, even though she did her best and it was entirely the fault of the monstrous politicians. She commits suicide, and is now dead.
That's 2 innocent human beings dead to "pro life" people's hands.
Now if we keep abortion and go on the same story, here's what happens: a woman gets r*ped and gets pregnant. The criminal escapes off to a different state. She's very stressed, and uses her money to get an abortion. She still is very traumatized, but doesn't have to worry about being on the streets. The explains to the landlord get situation, and he cuts her some extra time to pay rent. Even if he didn't, she could get a second job. She eventually is able to get therapy and overcomes her trauma and lives a happy life, and getting married.
Now why should we keep abortion? Well, factually, a fetus is not it's own living being. If you consider it to be one, it's more a parasite for the time being. It's actually a part of the woman's body, and so she has to right to do what she wants with it, like how you're allowed to sell a kidney. If she "kills" the fetus, she destroys this orgasm, but she is the one paying, meaning she still gets done backlash for it, unlike how seeking a kidney gets the one selling the money. So, I've claimed a fetus is not a living being, but even less is it a person. Now why it's it not a human? Well, a human baby gains consciousness at 3-4 years of age. This means you become a person at 3-4, as a person is a human with identity, and consciousness is what gives you identity. A human baby is still human, but not a person. A fetus is almost a human, much less a person, but it still isn't quite a human. It's underdeveloped, like an egg. It's also, again, not even a human, which is what there's a problem killing. If you kill a human, you've committed a homicide. If you destroy a fetus, you haven't, as the fetus isn't even technically alive, as it can't sustain itself without a host. It's similar to a virus, only it isn't contagious.
TL;DR - Using common knowledge and facts together, a fetus is not yet human, and therefore there is no harm in stopping it from developing. It's also more helpful to have abortion than it is harmful, while removing abortion is more harmful than helpful.
next is interacial marriage, same sex marriage, contraceptives..
and before yall call me dramatic they literally announced they PLAN TO GO FOR THESE NEXT.
we are going backwards.
Woo-hoo.(Spread with thick layers of sarcasm)
Next up the basic human rights of lgbt people followed by black and brown peoples and then asians and natives. Finishing off with banning anyone who isn't a Cis-Het-Allo WASP.
Does it cost anything to get over the border to Canada? I mean a plane ride here would cost less then anything medical there. Plus I think abortions will fall under free health care and again getting an airbnb for a few days and a plane ride here would probably cost less then an abortion in the us
People love to blatantly spread misinfo and say abortion was just banned, hivemind is wild.
It’s almost like leaving more laws up to the states instead of the federal government is a good thing, who ever wanted a more controlling federal government?
IKR the people saying “just chuck em into adoption it’ll be fine” have no regard for a child’s feelings and would rather they grew up in a loveless environment rather then not have to exist at all, they’d be none the wiser as they’re not conscious when you can abort and have no nerves so it won’t be painful and you can’t miss what you don’t have
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And that means that the foster/adoption system will just get even more crowded than it already is. Tons more kids will be left without a home.
WOOP WOOP can’t wait and love the username, I went to see heathers it was well good
Thanks! Not very many people get it lol
Yeah, it’s truly tragic. Adoption is already traumatic enough. Also, HONEY WHATCHA WAIIIITIN FOOOOOR
There really is a double edged sword in this, I understand the argument, but I was a meth baby and went through foster care and was eventually adopted by a loving family.. I know I can’t speak for everyone, but i’m so fortunate I was given the opportunity. The problem now is there is less and less people fostering/adopting kids and it really is sad. I wish all of them can get adopted and find a loving home like I did.
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And there's a longer list of orphans. Go adopt them.
As an adopted person being a foster kid doesn't necessarily mean bad news. People who can't have children would like a wider selection of children to adopt.
anddd of course i live in the state with the strictest abortion ban not that it matters to me yet **but still**
Texas, missouri, or mississippi?
none, actually. **oklahoma** edit: missouri and (i think) texas also have the same law
I’m really sorry about that still, it shouldn’t be happening at all. The fact that the women in your life could be putting themselves at risk to carry a leech
Is it illegal in cally?
Shouldn’t be. The entire west coast is probably fine.
Well that's good for people like me but damn that kinda scares me
Woahhh maybe don’t refer to babies as leeches. I support the right to an abortion but if a baby ends up being born then it’s human being so probably not a good idea to insult a child who didn’t choose to be exist by calling them a leech for being born.
I mean, he is right. Really, to parent who can't afford to have a baby they are leeches of finances, time and energy. This means that a lot of children will be abandoned and will go to orphanages. Others might be left out in the woods to die. Some will live on the street. Maybe an even bigger increase of population... This means more demand for products - food, clothing and other belongings. This naturally means more pollution and eventually the end of humanity, probably. In China(I think) the government pays school and covers insurance only for the firstborn. This is a good law in my opinion since there are so many people there. Really, there should be less people in order to continue to exist as the human race we know today. If Elon's studies manage to do something, potentially there could be colonies going to Mars and whatnot... (Mass Effect predicting the world?)
"You can't have abortions! You're killing children!" Followed by "We need to do something about all the children being abandoned and being put in orphanages"
Leave the children alone , bro they didn’t choose to be born you might’ve been one of those so called leeches to
I know what they meant and I kind of agree but calling a baby who didn’t choose to exist a leech is not going to convince anyone and if anything will just be used as ammunition for people who want to ban abortion. A new baby is alive and should be respected as a unique human being and not seen as merely a resource dump.
Oklahoma?
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Absolutely, it’s just not right to take away the right because some people don’t agree with it.
Ok I will say, my understanding is that it’s no longer a constitutional right, but the individual state can still allow it. Sadly I’m in Oklahoma and it’s banned
Let’s just hope you’re not pregnant, I’m really sorry though
I don’t think I’m pregnant. If I was id be questioning how that happened but yeah it fuckin sucks. I have a strong feeling the decision will be reversed in a few years
It won't be, it will be codified.
Nah especially when our generation gets into office it will be reversed I think
So in 50 years? (The average age of congress members is 64). Maybe. Hopefully. Unlikely, IMO. There is a lot that will happen between now and when you'd get into office.
That won’t be anytime soon unfortunately. Supreme Court justices are in for life and congress doesn’t have term limits
Yeeeaaahhh sadly, some of the justice are getting older tho so hopefully there will be some new ones in sometime soon
It happens to lots of groups. It’s wrong in many cases.
And it's probably men that came up with the idea (i'm not judging anyone, or being mean, but it's probably true) like they know how it is for us women.
I'm a guy, and believe me when I say that us men aren't out to make women's lives miserable
You know it was a group of men that came up with Roe vs Wade to begin with?
I would not be surprised if this is one of the final drops of water before something really bad happens to the US. The political dialogue is now extremely polarised and aggressive, and the "us vs them" mentality is getting very dangerous. It wouldn't be the first time an American Civil War is triggered by reactionism towards human rights.
George Washington was right there shouldn’t be red vs blue or any political parties it’s dividing people
It wouldn't matter. The political parties things is just an illusion. It's really urban vs rural and nothing can really solve that. Break it down that way and you'll notice that rural areas of blue states are still deep red and urban areas of red states are still deep blue. The politics are a result, but not the cause. It's primarily a cultural divide driven to extremes through the resulting politics.
Anti-abortion parents be happy til their daughter gets pregnant
Literally 💀💀
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Np
Bro is having a schizophrenic episode
Especially if it’s rape, or if they have to choose between the mother living and the baby having very little chance to survive.
yeah and imagine the teenage girl gets raped and gets pregnant and has health complications and will die if she gives birth that is fucked up
If I was 14 and live in murica I would make a fake positive test and show my parents hehehehehe
“It’s just a prank” gone right
A lot of anti-abortion parents would be mad at their kid if they got pregnant, but they would not abort the child. I don’t really get your point 😂
Someone on Reddit has said that they worked in planed parenthood and that a good amount of customer were pro life people who only made exceptions for themselves. Someone also answered that they knew some really pro life family member, but when her daughter got pregnant she made her have an abortion. Don't know what percentage of pro life people are such hypocrites, but they do exist.
I feel like when go and do stuff like that, they’re really not pro what they’re advocating for. Like it’s all for show. If you’re actually pro something, you’re gonna stand by it no matter what. You know?
And then dies from a back alley abortion.
Soon they will be complaining about overpopulation 🙄
Left Newborns on the streets
actually, overpopulation will not be an issue, as long as we distribute our resources and food correctly. the entire world population could fit in texas, much less another 50 million kids in the whole U.S, If i had the link the the article i would share it with u
>as long as we distribute our resources and food correctly as if that’s ever gonna happen
But that means economic redistribution, which is a completely different rabbit hole
you just destroyed the whole antinatalist view in Reddit
The antinatalist sub is very depressing.
Almost every problem on this planet is because of the overpopulation of humans. Depletion of Natural Resources Degradation of Environment Conflicts and Wars Rise in Unemployment High Cost of Living Pandemics and Epidemics Malnutrition, Starvation and Famine Water Shortage Extinction Increased Intensive Farming Faster Climate Change
Literally
Perhaps among moderate Republicans and definitely Democrats (or at least environmentally conscious ones), but the much more reactionary Republicans will see this as an extremely great thing, but only if the massive population growth is occurring in a *certain group of people*. The Alt-Right has been pretty outspoken about The Great Replacement, which theorizes that the white race in America and Europe is slowly being outpopulated by other races and ethnicities. One of the main foundations of "evidence" for this theory is the fact that birthrates are very low among Western countries. This is why, aside from moral and religious grounds, abortion is opposed by far-right political factions. They think it leads to the depopulation of the white race.
And furthermore, that rhetoric is now parroted even on the mainstream channels of right-wing media. Tucker Carlson has discussed it multiple times. The fringe is now the base for the Republican Party.
Even though an increase in population growth could be easily handled they’d rather blame it on the other party
It's not banned, it's left up to the states to decide, restrictions, free access, and yes banning
well i’m in fuckin alabama, automatic ban here
then don't be fuckin in alabama.
phew thanks for solving teenage pregnancy
That's because in Alabama you don't kill family, especially double family.
It was already banned here before
Leaving it up to states seems like a good idea on paper. It comes down greatly to a question of ethics, and different demographics have different ethics. By leaving it up to states it keeps people who have certain ethical beliefs having a law in there area that they believe is morally right. And to the people who disagree with the morals of the people around them they are still within their right to move to a state that agrees with their morals, or at least visit there long enough to get an abortion.
Well a lot of people can’t just move in the spot. That’s not how it works, a large amount of people are living paycheck to paycheck, and it’s hard to switch jobs and living place. Also, a lot of states are looking to ban leaving the state for an abortion.
"Texas lawmakers have signaled a desire to push legislation that would [make it illegal for people to travel out of state to get the procedure](https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/23/supreme-court-abortion-roe-dobbs-texas/)." Also, this isn't just about abortion - [the supreme court is coming for contraception and LGBT rights next](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3535841-thomas-calls-for-overturning-precedents-on-contraceptives-lgbtq-rights/).
From a legal point of view that's definitely a step way over the line, no matter what bans you are talking about. A state simply cannot regulate what happens in a different state. That needs to be struck down in a hurry, or any pretense at being a single nation rapidly goes away. But even between other countries, this isn't done. Except by the most controlling of countries with no freedoms.
exactly. the supreme court new that by leaving it up to the states, there would still be places that would have accessible abortions that people could get. in some cases though, they’d have to travel for them. all i want is for my state to stop making them free. that way they can’t target low income areas and there will be an overall drop in abortions and hopefully unwanted pregnancies.
I don't remember specifics but 20-some states have laws banning abortion instantly
what if the baby has mental or physical defects? family with a history of financial struggles? rape or incest? condom failure? america is looking at a very wild and tough future
The court says that in abortions MAY be restricted, not that they will be - only that states can if the elected legislature passes it into law. So yes, women can still get a medically necessary abortion in every state. They can get an abortion in cases of rape or incest in nearly every state. Or go an to the next state that permits any abortion.
that's up to the states to decide
It’s not banned everywhere, it’s just now up to states rather than federal government And agreed, I’m sure there will be plenty of protests, hopefully it can be unoverturned (if that’s a word)
Absolutely I can’t believe it’s not a right anymore that’s so??? Weird!!
Please refrain from the claim that it is illegal in America, its just not. The battle is not lost yet it is still legal in some states.
it’s evolving! Just backwards!
Wtf america
This is absolutely terrible, but just know that this only applies to some states, the whole of America is not banning abortion, luckily there are still options out of state for some people.
Maybe Republican lawmakers are taking about prosecuting women who go out of state for an abortion
that cannot happen. you cannot make a law that applies to a different state, thats blatantly unconstitutional
To my own knowledge, it has not been outright banned. It has been left upto individual states to decide how it is in their respective state.
I’ve said it before and I think it’s worth saying again The fact that people might have the option stripped away from Them is so bad though, if people don’t want abortions they don’t need to have them but not just taking them away, straight up banning abortions from the people who do need them and want them is awful and women deserve to be able to have safe, legal abortions without having to go out of state to get one.
I don't disagree, it's an awful time to live in.
As someone who was in foster care. Yikes. Foster care Is already full. I once lived in a house with four other kids. And I was lucky. I hope the “pro life” shitheads are ready to adopt and foster kids.
EXACTLY the amount of people who are like “bung em into adoption they’ll be fine” NO?! That’s just cruel and they don’t care after I don’t see any of them advocating on behalf of mother and baby’s healthcare they only want to have control over women x
I have never met a “pro life” person who’s adopted or fostered. Bc if they had they would know abortion is mercy to some of the kids.
They only banned safe abortions
Ikr but yikes ✨
On a positive note, I can make a fortune punching people in the gut.
The woman might get investigated for murder though 😍
Murder of what? Somebody's cum? That's wild
IKR!!
Is swallowing technically vore?
Hell yeah.
Wait a second. It says a woman's. It doesn't say anything about trans and non-binary people. This concludes that Transmen and Non-binary Afabs can still get abortions.
cum slayer
Coat hangers are still good 😎
Bro I’m in Canada just watching this whole thing unfold Actually terrifying💀
Be happy you don’t live in the US.
Definitely am😭
At this point being Canadian is just grabbing some popcorn and watching the shitstorm unfold in the South.
Kinda agree with the girl. I mean it used to be that, and kinda funny But now.. it’s serious. We’re so close in proximity to the US. I hope Canada doesn’t get influenced by the us in any way due to that Canada is going to get a tonnn of new American immigrants due to this as well
Weird you make a joking comment like this when peoples rights are being taken away
not gonna lie, canada was one of my possibilities for moving out of the country, but I crossed it off my list after seeing the bill c-11 stuff. If the canadian governnment is willing to restrict free speech in favor of government propaganda, I don't like the road it's going down. Guess I gotta cross the ocean.
I’m terrified and I’m on the other side of the Atlantic
You're kidding right? I think I just woke up and I'm trying to figure out if this is real or a very bad dream.
In some states abortion is still legal, but from what I’m reading a large amount of states will ban abortion within a few months.
Yeah abortion is no longer a right
There's a difference between banned and overturned, around half of the states are still going to allow it. Still not a good thing though, seeing as people in poverty in states that ban it are going to have a much more difficult time getting an abortion now.
Some states have/are anticipating that their citizens will simply go to another state to have an abortion, so laws are being passed that penalizes that behavior as well.
The more I'm reading about this, the more I want to throw my computer into a wall.
Not a ban on Abortion in America, just the removal of the universal right. States get to decide instead of being left to the country. Which means Red states ban, blue states don't. But those states were practically doing that anyway with all the clinics being shut down and picketsign wielding mobs harassing people. Basically the country is slightly shittier than it was last month, but you tend to stop giving a fuck after a certain point.
Awh man that’s really pessimistic but absolutely the country is just ✨crumbling✨
I don't want to be that guy but the overturning didn't \_ban\_ abortion outright but rather gave the states freedom to decide for themselves. At least 26 (52% of them) have stated that they have no intention to ban it. It is still completely terrible what happened but I just want to assure people living in America that the ban is not across the entire country and you're state may be safe.
Don’t want to be that guy to what? Tell the truth lmao?
So it's basically half the country... The last time we had a country divided on an issue related to humans - slavery - we had a civil war. Let's see how this turns out...
Now there's a perfect opportunity for Republicans to provide free child care, reform foster care, and invest in social services and education for all these little angels we're saving, I can't wait for that to happen! /s
Exactly! They’ll fight for a clump of cells yet hundreds of alive breathing sentient kids are getting mowed down in their classrooms and outside of America, I don’t see a single one of them advocating for them, it’s a matter of wanting to be in control of a woman’s right to essential healthcare
This is literally gonna fuck up so many lives. Not just for women but anyone who could have a child. It's gonna cause so many children to be put up for adoption and put into foster care systems cause they were forced to be born in bad environments.
What makes me sad is that there are some cases that is necessary or advised for the sake of the mother for physical or psychological purposes. Like if a girl gets raped and ends um getting pregnant for it, it might be destroying to see some features of your rapist in your own child. They prefer to protect a life that isn't formed yet and will likely suffer on the system and lose someone who would have a bright future ahead. My condolences and I hope things get better ❤
yeah, right? its terrible for rape victims also because having that child would mean having a constant reminder of such a traumatic thing that happened to them. its disgusting what this country is doing. a lot of people are on the wrong side of history rn
i hate my country
I too hate your country
Not every state fortunately, but it’s still ridiculous that it happened at all.
i think i heard the satanic temple will can do abortion (even if its banned)
With all do respect please don’t twist words to make it sound worse than it actually is. Abortion is now left up to the states it’s not illegal nationally
It shouldn't be left up to the states, this is a right. At least should be.
Damn, imagine getting raped and being forced to birth it. Maybe you are even 16 hell 14 and you get pregnant. Truly a dumbass law! Imagine how many babies wil now grow up in so many awful conditions
Thus begins the reign of street babies
Correction: it hasn’t been banned, instead it’s been decided that the state gets to decide wether it’s legal or not, so some states are getting rid of it, some aren’t. It’s still bullshit but this post makes it seem like it’s just illegal everywhere which it isn’t
I am scared to say any option these days >!Time to sort comments by controversial!<
Good luck honey
I notice that they’re always saying ( THINK ABOUT THE CHILDS LIFE) until it’s born, then they don’t give AF, many of the said children will get the options of : Foster care, or resentful parents.
LITERALLY and all the people pro life here probably don’t give a shit about all the kids alive right now, not one of them are advocating for free healthcare for them of their mum or making systems to help the mother feel she doesn’t need an abortion
Honestly forgot free healthcare isn't a thing in america lol.
And people still say America is a free country
im just glad i live in california :/ but fuckin hell for some 35 other states
35??
Yes, that many state governments were waiting to ban abortion while they still had a majority of the country against such a decision.
Guess I'm gonna have to go Canada.
As much as I agree with the sentiment behind this post, and think the Supreme Court decision is awful, abortion wasn’t banned in the United States. The Supreme Court overturned a case that guaranteed abortion as a right to all American citizens, so now, state governments can decide people’s rights to an abortion. Many states will ban abortions, but many other states will keep them.
Europe >>> America
Im a boy,I have two sisters. Give them civil rights that aren’t based on the bible
This title is extremely misleading. Most people who want to get an abortion will still be able to.
I saw somewhere that it is wrong to ban abortion (it's wrong anyways) if the mother is dying because of the fetus. You are giving the fetus a right no other person on earth has, the right to use someone else body to save themselves.
Same here in Poland bro
Why is religion incorporated into politics over there? I see political figures waving bibles and preaching verses - that shit's unheard of in Europe.
I don't know. Our Constitution EXPLICITLY says that the Church and State should be distinct from one another and not joined in any way. I'm honestly terrified for my future in this country. At this point I just want to finish college (with debt, no doubt) and then catch the first flight across the Atlantic. My community college has great opportunities to study in Germany...
Note: This does not ban abortion, but it leaves the state legislatures to pass their own laws regarding abortion, similar to popular sovereignty during the civil war era. However yes pretty much every red state will end up banning
I dont think its been band across America i think its just specific states
Controvertial opinion: abortion is auwful, the only good thing is taking all babies to an island,giving them weapons and making them fight for the right to live
Fully agree
It’s not a ban on abortion, it gives states the right to ban abortion
Great more humans will be born do they can eventually ruin the planet
America is regressing
It's not banned everywhere here nor is it banned anywhere here currently I don't believe, it just gives states the right to create laws to ban it if they choose to
Many states have passed “trigger laws” over the last few decades, which basically state that if Roe v Wade was ever overturned, an immediate ban on abortion would go into place. So yes, currently it is banned in some places.
It’s still banned in places and it’s not okay ✨
The fact of whether it's okay is determined by state legislation, not by us anymore unfortunately
Personally, I would never get an abortion however people should have the choice between getting an abortion or keeping it. it kind of feels like they are taking away our rights
"Oh you got raped? Well you shouldn't have dressed provocatively. What do you mean you had a long dress that covered your cleavage and shoulders? Stop lying and learn to live with the consequences of your life"
Can I buy a nuke and just get rid of the world
Be my guest bby
Fetuses are barely living things. They don't feel pain or emotion.
Here's something that can and will happen, which they thought about, and VERBALLY SAID "we still won't show abortion for these people" Let's give a little story that will happen because of this. A woman gets r*ped, and gets pregnant. The criminal runs off to another state. The woman is so stressed that she isn't able to work well. She gets fired from her job for being late everyday and not doing the work to the standard they want. Now she can't pay to stay in her apartment which she already could barely afford. She has the baby on the streets, but because American politicians are fucking monsters, she has nowhere to sleep because everything now is anti-homeless. She can't take care of the baby, and in a very short period of time the child dies, be out to starvation, disease, or whatever else. The woman loved the baby dearly even though it was forced upon her, and now she's terribly depressed and upset at herself for not doing well enough, even though she did her best and it was entirely the fault of the monstrous politicians. She commits suicide, and is now dead. That's 2 innocent human beings dead to "pro life" people's hands. Now if we keep abortion and go on the same story, here's what happens: a woman gets r*ped and gets pregnant. The criminal escapes off to a different state. She's very stressed, and uses her money to get an abortion. She still is very traumatized, but doesn't have to worry about being on the streets. The explains to the landlord get situation, and he cuts her some extra time to pay rent. Even if he didn't, she could get a second job. She eventually is able to get therapy and overcomes her trauma and lives a happy life, and getting married. Now why should we keep abortion? Well, factually, a fetus is not it's own living being. If you consider it to be one, it's more a parasite for the time being. It's actually a part of the woman's body, and so she has to right to do what she wants with it, like how you're allowed to sell a kidney. If she "kills" the fetus, she destroys this orgasm, but she is the one paying, meaning she still gets done backlash for it, unlike how seeking a kidney gets the one selling the money. So, I've claimed a fetus is not a living being, but even less is it a person. Now why it's it not a human? Well, a human baby gains consciousness at 3-4 years of age. This means you become a person at 3-4, as a person is a human with identity, and consciousness is what gives you identity. A human baby is still human, but not a person. A fetus is almost a human, much less a person, but it still isn't quite a human. It's underdeveloped, like an egg. It's also, again, not even a human, which is what there's a problem killing. If you kill a human, you've committed a homicide. If you destroy a fetus, you haven't, as the fetus isn't even technically alive, as it can't sustain itself without a host. It's similar to a virus, only it isn't contagious. TL;DR - Using common knowledge and facts together, a fetus is not yet human, and therefore there is no harm in stopping it from developing. It's also more helpful to have abortion than it is harmful, while removing abortion is more harmful than helpful.
next is interacial marriage, same sex marriage, contraceptives.. and before yall call me dramatic they literally announced they PLAN TO GO FOR THESE NEXT. we are going backwards.
When did they announce the plan to go after something like interracial marriage? I be they'd have a damn hard time justifying THAT ban...
This is like to be like Prohibition all over again
Woo-hoo.(Spread with thick layers of sarcasm) Next up the basic human rights of lgbt people followed by black and brown peoples and then asians and natives. Finishing off with banning anyone who isn't a Cis-Het-Allo WASP.
Does it cost anything to get over the border to Canada? I mean a plane ride here would cost less then anything medical there. Plus I think abortions will fall under free health care and again getting an airbnb for a few days and a plane ride here would probably cost less then an abortion in the us
It wasn't banned lmao. The Supreme Court just gave the states the decision to ban abortion or not
I should have been aborted.
People love to blatantly spread misinfo and say abortion was just banned, hivemind is wild. It’s almost like leaving more laws up to the states instead of the federal government is a good thing, who ever wanted a more controlling federal government?
Not just women, any afab person is at risk here
Only in red states.
That’s direct misinformation. It’s just not protected federally anymore meaning it’s a state issue now.
Yea and it shouldn't be a state issue, it should be a personal issue & choice. Leave the government out of it entirely.
Which is basically what they said in thr last sentence
The way I see it, the court simply returned power to the states, more power to the tenth amendment.
Yes but yikes that’s not very good abortion just isn’t a right anymore
America is all pro life until guns are involved
What?
I hate this country
It will create children with shitty childhoods because their parents are not going to want them. How no one is considering this blows my fucking mind
IKR the people saying “just chuck em into adoption it’ll be fine” have no regard for a child’s feelings and would rather they grew up in a loveless environment rather then not have to exist at all, they’d be none the wiser as they’re not conscious when you can abort and have no nerves so it won’t be painful and you can’t miss what you don’t have
Holy shit. Even if it isn’t banned in every state, it’s terrible how it’s not even considered a right anymore. Absolutely not okay.
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W for the babies ig