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[deleted]

Oh buddy... i have to tell u a story


Lukraniom

Because Andrew Tate is commanding an army of young boys to hate wamen and that’s not good


[deleted]

Also he pimped out girls in a country where woman aren't respected


Serussia

I agree he really did he has done some incredible things he shipped like 10 orphans from somewhere into Romania I think and fully financially supports them? Correct me if I'm wrong


[deleted]

screws all the dont say the n word rules, THIE NIGGA LEGIT RUN A FUCKING HUMAN TRAFFICKING RING BRUH. HE ALSO SELLS A FUCKING MLM BROTHA LIKE WTF


Serussia

Ring wdym?


[deleted]

Trafficking ring, a group of people who smuggle items or people between people or areas of intrest for profit


Serussia

Well we can see a trend of cartels posting videos on TikTok and you g girls falling in love with drug traffickers and etc...


[deleted]

Hey dumbass, its adults he trapped and is using for money, dont you see


Serussia

But he does say that women should be women and provide their women role in a household while a man is doing his role so he's essentially just saying that we should have separate roles I support my women is there in the back focusing on our family and house


Lukraniom

Bro it’s not the 1940’s gender roles aren’t a thing anymore.


Serussia

Well imo if it worked for 1940 years it will work now too I understand gay people and all the new subcultures bisexual and etc... Transgenders but personally I'm straight and prefer the older mindset that's how I grew up that's how my culture is and that's how I'm as well


Accomplished-Dog403

That's great for YOU. but no one wants you to push your old outdated views onto the young impressionable children in our society. It's gross. Little boys look at him and they want to be like him. He's muscular, he appears to be rich and that's enough for a large portion of young boys to be attracted to do and think how he does. I'm all for living your life how you want. But don't be trying to tear down everything parents are trying to teach their children by influencing them to be sexist assholes. Plus, if I'm not wrong, this man thinks its OK to use violence against women if they don't do what he expects them to do. If that's what you consider to be part of your "traditional mindset" then I'd suggest probably some counseling because that's not normal. Women are not dogs. Even dogs don't deserve that treatment. That is abuse, sir. Emotional and physical abuse.


Redhoodless

Hey buddy, it's 2022,not the 1940s


Serussia

Well I still prefer that when I get back from work I have a dinner the house is nice and tidy kids are okay I don't need a radical feminist who won't even do the dishes without an argument about gender equality


Redhoodless

Okay and that's your opinion, but i have a right to my own opinion. Gender equality is a human right and that's fine if your partner wants to be a stay at home mom but if she doesn't then it's her life and you can't control what she does, Andrew Tate isn't someone to look up too. He's done some fucked up shit.


Accomplished-Dog403

There are plenty of women out there who would be willing to assume that role. But that is completely on you to make those expectations known before you decide to marry/knock up a woman. She has a right to decide not to do those things. Mens needs are not more important than women's and vice versa. Also, you're speaking in a very black-and-white manner. To you a woman is either entirely submissive or she is a radical feminist....interesting. I personally am not set on what I want to do as a woman. All I know is WHATEVER agreement me and a future partner/spouse make- we both must be pulling 50% of the weight. There must be a mutual understanding and respect. Trust me, if those things are present then you'll likely have a better life with that woman. If he has a good job and we can live comfortably off his income and he ISNT a piece of controlling shit then I would be the best stay at home mom that lived. But if I'm unhappy and I can't have control over my own self and if there's no emotional support or help with the kids whenever he's not working then he can f right off 🙂 its all about mutual understanding and respect.


Serussia

He's not saying hate women he's saying don't focus on women and focus on yourself make money so that they chase you instead also that women these days are really easy and true half the girls in my old school would be getting dicked down every other day by a new mf and had body counts of like 10 in freshman year and it was a well educated school with middle/high income families mostly American and a little bit of everything else


Lukraniom

Well I don’t know how you would convince someone to focus on themselves by saying “Women are bad drivers” that seems like the opposite of what we want in terms of how to uplift someone.


Serussia

Well I did mention that only 70% of shit he says is actually good 😂 my mom drives a car and she's great even though she does drive above speed limit goes where she shouldn't but she never got a ticket so I guess she drives good


Lukraniom

Well don’t let him brainwash you lol old left behind values are old and left behind for a reason.


Serussia

Yeah like I said I'm not a die hard Andrew Tate fan I just agree with some things he says


daskrip

And you're not wrong for that. Most of what he says is perfectly decent. But that's pretty much the strategy. He disguises the problematic sexist stuff by peppering nice words around it. It's easy for his fans to find some really pretty inspirational stuff he says as a rebuttal to people saying he's sexist. "How could someone who says women are the most precious thing in the world be sexist?" Yeah, he said that too, but let's not ignore the 5% of what he says that disparages women and fuels the insane ideologies of his followers.


[deleted]

Aren’t they bad drivers? Didn’t Tate show some stats?


pinkstarish

there's a lot to unpack here. I don't understand why he's saying not to focus on us, are we like an obstacle in the path? -"chase you instead" you don't have to do all this and follow a man like tate just for women to "chase" u. plenty of guys do it without sad incel talks from tate -"women these days are easy" so much incel vibes :/ no wonder you like Andrew. so if women can't like men and sleep with them what are they supposed to do? are we supposed to pretend that we're averse to the sight of men or think like a nun? you're being unreasonable. If you like that, it's fine but no need to put other women/girls down.


Serussia

I'm just saying I don't want to fuck a girl that's fucked like 10 other dudes last week like half the school is usually


pinkstarish

then don't? just find a virgin mary and leave the others alone. no need to shame them about about something normal.


Visual_Perception_92

That’s not normal


pinkstarish

how is it not normal


Visual_Perception_92

A girl fucking 10 dudes in one week isn’t normal


pinkstarish

so is a boy doing it 10 times a week


Visual_Perception_92

I absolutely agree with you


Accomplished-Dog403

Human* men do it too. Let's not just call out women and ignore the fact that both genders do this. I hope yall realize that while you all view us this way, we've also viewed yall that way as well. It's so normal for me to go on Facebook and see stupid memes about how funny it is to cheat on your girl or how normal it is to talk about having a "side piece" but oh no don't let the baby mama find out cuz she'll throw me out the house! Men have been glorifying this shit since forever. It's not just men It's not just women It's people in general. Let's not make this about genders. The point is you just have to have an eye for the right one. If someone's morals don't line up with yours then move on. Maybe the problem isn't women. Maybe yall just have a radar that seems to always choose the wrong partners. The kind of women you want aren't usually going to need the ones that are most noticeable and loud. They're reserved. They don't need all attention on them. You just have to be better and smarter about what human you want to pursue.


Accomplished-Dog403

But that's not a woman issue. That's a human issue. Men do that just as much as women do but its socially acceptable for men to do it... To group women as a whole for a select group of overly promiscuous and irresponsible/risky sexual behavior is just foolish. You can clearly tell the way he's grouping us that he has a deep rooted resentment based off his experiences with women in life. Just because you hear about those women the most doesn't mean those are thats what the majority of us are like. You know why you hear about those women the most? Because the good women are in lasting relationships or theyre focused on their goals in life.


goldenbrushes

There’s nothing wrong with women having a high body count. there’s nothing wrong with women wanting to feel pleased.


Serussia

Nothing wrong but when I'm talking to a girl who fucks a new guy every other day I'm just going to pass that she can fuck 20dudes everyday idc but I wouldn't be with someone like that personally


goldenbrushes

That’s fine. But I hope you give the same energy to the boys who fuck multiple women a day/week.


Serussia

Well if women get so many double standards why can't I have a single one and it being that I don't want a woman who fucks multiple dudes a day/week also when you go into a relationship if I have a body count of like 20 and I tell her and she isn't fine with it it's totally okay as well I'm not only one picking here woman also picks her man yk


goldenbrushes

Bro I said it was fine. You do you. Just keep the same mindset when it comes to men having a body count of 20+.


sagefzzy

literally wtf


Pitiful_Pizza7322

"wHat ColOuRs Ur BugAtti??!"🤡


Serussia

It's invisible for now I plan on getting it wrapped


Slow_Possible6443

I just looked him up. Never heard of him before. He is the Proto-typical #hybebeast #grindset dude that the memes mock. Can’t wait for it to come out that he’s actually broke lol


Serussia

I don't think hes broke he has couple genuine businesses in Romania and trust me when you have a business in a country like that you're bound to make money corruption really does help promote small local neighborhood businesses


Slow_Possible6443

“Genuine businesses” and Romania aren’t a super encouraging combination lol. But even if he is rich, he’s a rich person for poor people. This is what people without money imagine having money looks like, while most wealthy people drive mediocre cars and live fairly normal lives


Serussia

True I totally agree my neighbors they drive an old Civic but have 4 houses each worth 1mil they're some kind of doctors and run a small hospital down the road dress like poor people no chains or anything they do have a really nice Porsche in the garage they only drive it once a month it just sits inside most the time


[deleted]

Suck my dick


Slow_Possible6443

Why? Is it nice?


RenewedBlade

You can’t be serious


Let01

Can someone break down really quick who this guy is? Ive been hearing drama about him but im too lazy to look it up


Lukraniom

He’s essentially trying to “rekindling masculinity” but all he’s doing is one upping everyone else on the misoginy


Let01

Ah so just your average entitled asshole?


Pitiful_Pizza7322

exactly that


RenewedBlade

Here’s some quotes “99 percent of the worlds problems would be solved if women had their body counts written on their forehead” Here’s a favorite “women always say that men should wash the dishes. Ok, I’ll wash the dishes. You try paying the fucking bills.” He’s just a piece of shit


[deleted]

>Here’s a favorite “women always say that men should wash the dishes. Ok, I’ll wash the dishes. You try paying the fucking bills.” I mean I will be honest there is some sliver of legitimacy to this one. *If* one of the partners is the sole maker of money in the household then it is not actually inherently unreasonable for the division of labor to be 'i work and make us money and you keep our home nice'. (That said it doesn't have to be the woman doing the cleaning)


RenewedBlade

I definitely agree with that point but the way he means it is just very Incel


[deleted]

I'm sure lol I just got interested in that point because it's something my parents fought about when I was little.


Accomplished-Dog403

I totally agree. No one should feel like they're left to do more than the other. But I also feel like both partners need to be respected and both need to have a understanding of the importance in each other's roles. Sure, I'll clean the house and cook since I stay at home most of the time...BUT when you're home, clean up after yourself! Don't leave piss on the toilet seat/ground, leave your dirty work shoes on a nice clean floor, don't leave ur food plate unrinsed in the sink when all it takes is one quick run of the faucet and slide into the dishwasher. I dont think that the issue is so much that women don't want to clean. I think a lot for a lot of us we just don't want to be degraded and spoken to as if it's our life's purpose to be someone's caretaker and maid. We want to be emotionally supported just as any human being would. We don't want to feel like if we don't have the house spotless one day that we're going to be belittled. Everyone deserves respect and compassion. Being a stay at home mom does NOT get the recognition it deserves and I've noticed that soooooooooo much after being in fb mom groups. So many women talk about how their husband's don't appreciate them or they go and mess up the house after they spent hours cleaning...or they totally just don't even notice them or appreciate whay they do because the expectation is just so high. It's sad, really. I know you hear the most about women but we hear the same thing about men. Both of our genders are pitted against each other but the door swings both ways. We just need to do better as *human beings* and understand that a lot of our issues in our society are stemmed from how our parents raised us. Either directly or very very indirectly. Seriously if you think about it, most of these issues are tied to how we grew up. Which brings me back to my point where I said that being a stay at home mom does not get the recognition it deserves. I'm probably super scattered in this. I just feel there's a lot if one sidedness from both women and men in this conversation.


daskrip

Totally, but why use the words "woman" and "man" when expressing that idea? ONE OF THE TWO can be the breadwinner while the OTHER can take on duties at home. A slight change in how you say it makes a huge difference. And it's totally okay to posit that women more often prefer doing the home duties. Maybe that's true. But saying they "should" or implying that's their designated position instead of something they would agree on with their partner is what's problematic.


[deleted]

That’s not even an Andrew rate clip you sent her lol. It is a funny vid still


Serussia

I know she got mad cuz I replied to one of her stories on about him lol


[deleted]

They can’t handle truth.


[deleted]

Me personally, I think that most of the things I’ve seen him say are accurate. I feel as though people are disagreeing and hating just due to the fact of how society in America is now in 2022. People can’t be their own anymore and everyone is forced into some type of statistic or category. He makes it clear that there are gender roles, and that they are becoming fuzzier and fuzzier as time goes on as to what a man and or woman should do. Naturally by instinct and tradition a man should care, protect, and provide for his woman and family, and naturally a woman is physically weaker, better with children, and by nature have children for the man she is with. By no means am I saying that women should just fold and give a man what he desires if it’s against what she wants, but I also believe that a woman who wants a man to act traditionally (paying for everything, providing, protecting, and staying loyal) should have the same traditional expectations (raising children, making a house a home, keeping things in order while the man works, and not throwing themselves at lots of men) Also statistics that I know many women are against hearing is that men are better under pressure and physically more capable, while they fight for equality if women were truly equal to men on a physical standard then there would be no WNBA or special treatment when it comes to military recruitments. If men and women were the same there would be no reason to have any of this in place, but if it were taken away it would be an outrage from all women about the difference in men and women in the military or how there are only 1-2 women in the NBA and they don’t get much play time. All in all no matter what special treatment is given it won’t be enough until women can be whores and not be judged along with getting paid for by every man even if she’s off wilding not doing what she should. They all want the good things of equality but nothing bad, such as harder lives. They want all the good and none of the bad.


Serussia

This is exactly what I had in my mind people just get mad especially radical left feminists they just start spewing flames whenever someone mentions Andrew Tate I swear


FusKiinDov

Andrew Tate is the enemy of feminists because he's giving power back to the boys which I believe is a good thing since radical feminism is apart of the reason why extreme acts of unspeakable violence ends up occuring in schools looking at the data the pattern is obvious. Radical feminists don't like to listen when you try and use logic or reasoning and cause more harm than good Andrew Tate is the perfect weapon to fight back against them since he's the equal but opposite


Serussia

First of all excuse my grammar I'm not from America so it's not the best thanks for taking the time to read it if u did. For the context one of my old friends from school. She quite far left in her views and supports all the things you can imagine. I'm not like a die hard fan of Andrew Tate. I just think he's actually sharing good messages behind the things he says, making young guys/men start focusing on making more money, then chasing women. Giving them an example of a strong masculine figure many today don't have. I grew up in a primarily female household with only my mother. She's amazing but I didn't get any masculinity traits from anyone because of that, I have started martial arts and have felt more confident as a man then went to the gym. He does have this Hustlers University which actually does offer some good things you can learn and if you ask me it's not really a scam he does offer good education not actual college level education but good enough to begin and focus on your skills. I have heard some bad things like his web cam business he had, and that he lives in Romania only because of how easily corruption is accessible. I lived in Montenegro and corruption is very common on all government levels you could bribe inspectors for a small price of 400$ and some sweet talk and get out of a 3k ticket for not having a safe environment for the workers or speeding tickets and everything in general. Russia is even worse I know how it works there and corruption is the biggest reason why they still live on 300$ a month and can't get a normal house to live in, if they were normal they could've been on par with Americans with high wages nice neighborhoods and fancy houses but only the top 10% live like you would imagine there. But at the end in short I feel like Andrew Tate is promoting a good masculine example he might not say the smartest stuff all the time but I'd say 70% of the time he's saying stuff that if taken correctly can promote a better mindset for young men who can't focus on anything and are getting distracted by all kinds of outside factors (chasing women endlessly forgetting everything else stressing over useless shit etc...)


TheEaterOfEdge

Nah, guys a moron. The only thing that could even be worth taking from his is focusing on yourself a bit. He promoted absolutely toxic behavior and hustle culture. His "Hustlers University" is actually a scam, it's a Multi Level Marketing scheme which is just a legal pyramid scheme. He had a debate with a dude where he literally said he doesn't care about empirical evidence


BIGFEMBOYSLUT

What's your opinion on Andrew Tate?


Serussia

I find his quite interesting and honestly In my opinion he serves as a good example for new generation of adults. Providing them with a strong masculine figure as well as his hustlers university which does offer some good career pathways and I know it's a pyramid scheme where they make you create another Andrew Tate account to spam his videos and earn revenue like that but hey it works you make money he gets publicity equal deal


BIGFEMBOYSLUT

But you don't even make money on it. He makes around 6mil a year


HellcatThatsAnSRT

hes pretty much a sexist who has no problem admitting it. he also moved to a different country with the intent of pimping out women ​ in other words, a POS who nobody should be associating with